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Footage was released today by the Houthi Terrorist Organization in Yemen which shows the launch of Ballistic and Land-Attack Cruise Missiles as well as Drones during their 4 claimed Attacks against Southern Israel over the last week or so. |
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Originally Posted By xd341: The humanity of hamas is not in debate. They have none. The humanity that needs to preserved is that of Israel. The easiest thing in the world is to take the righteous anger of Israel and use it to raze Gaza and all that live there. They have the ability and the motive. There is even a practical security justification that is impossible to argue against. In order for Israel to have a secure future they can't just wipe Gaza off the map. They can target Hamas, they can inflict some collateral damage in pursuit of that end, but they can't go all hand of God on Gaza. The entire world will end up worse off if they do. The Arab countries that are nominal allies at this point will not survive if Israel expels Palestinians from Gaza, the citizens of those countries will rise up against thier government, likely with the help of Iran. Plunging the world into at least a regional war, if not something bigger. The world is a tinder box right now, more so than at any time since the cold war and there are already several little fires smoldering. Israel needs to take the high road, not because Hamas deserves it, but because the global stakes are higher than they have been since '76. Israel has the ability to reverse a generation of progress if they get this wrong. View Quote Bibi has to weigh his military objectives against their effect on European public opinion, Arab public opinion, Israeli domestic opinion, and most of all, US public opinion. Israel is not an island; it cannot survive on its own and needs the approval and support of the rest of the world. Turning Gaza into a smoking crater full of dead jihadis and their families is not in their best interest. |
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Originally Posted By GarandM1: As the War in Ukraine has illustrated, even an old tank is better than none at all. In fact a cheap old tank can be quickly upgraded and turned into an effective weapon, especially if you have lots of ammo for it. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GarandM1: As the War in Ukraine has illustrated, even an old tank is better than none at all. In fact a cheap old tank can be quickly upgraded and turned into an effective weapon, especially if you have lots of ammo for it. An M-60 updated with the latest optics and technology is not a bad option for infantry support. We would improve by ditching the SAW and making a licensed version of the Negev, however. |
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Israeli Army's Faster-than-expected Advance in Gaza Makes Its Mission Even More Complex The impact of the Israeli army's advance deep into the Gaza Strip will only be evident over time, as Iran grows anxious about Hamas's ability to withstand this. Meanwhile, preparing for months in Gaza, the U.S. favors a strategy focused on precise, targeted strikes
The movement of IDF forces into the northern Gaza Strip was more rapid than could have been expected at first. Four days after the start of the ground maneuver, it is already escalating into a full-blown war, between IDF large infantry and armored forces, and the Hamas defensive array, which includes several concentric circles surrounding the organization’s security center in downtown Gaza. There is tough, persistent fighting deep in urban areas, much of them devastated in the air force’s preliminary bombings. As a result, there are apparently hundreds of Hamas fighters dead, but Israel is also paying a price. Tuesday brought news of two soldiers from the Givati Brigade reconnaissance battalions killed in the battles. As the days go by, the challenge facing the troops becomes more complex. Hamas is a terror group, but in defense it fights using guerrilla tactics. There is no benefit, from its point of view, in a frontal clash with an enemy that enjoys an immense advantage in technology and firepower. It seeks weak spots, where it can exact a heavy toll from the Israeli military. IDF Spokesperson, Brig. Gen. Daniel Hagari, admitted that “intense battles in Gaza” are taking place, and that “there is a price.” For 20 years, the IDF deliberated and argued about the ground maneuver. The prevailing opinions held that the ground forces, and particularly the reserves, are not sufficiently fit and trained for such a complex mission, and that the Israeli public would struggle to deal with the scope of casualties it might entail. This time, the government and IDF have decided in favor of deploying the forces for hard fighting in the Gaza Strip, in light of the severity of Hamas’ attack. The question of whether the move will prove as effective as they hope has yet to be decided. This will become clear only later on, although there have already been operational achievements. The IDF’s ground operations are focused at this point on the northern part of the Strip, which is bisected by Gaza River. The distances are not large. The width of the Strip, at its narrowest, is barely six kilometers. There is a point at which the blue arrow, denoting the movement of IDF forces on the map, must stop and seek other missions: Destroying tunnels, sweeping for armed militants and munitions (and optimistically, for hostages as well). The more Israel tightens the noose, the more it encounters the risk that its forces will be too static and thus exposed to harm. The question of time is also a factor: The IDF is preparing for long months of continuous operation within the Strip. The American administration prefers that Israel refrain from a permanent presence, and that from a certain stage – perhaps within weeks – that it begin focusing on military raids (entering and then leaving) against specifically defined targets. International patience is not infinite, especially since the images of devastation caused by Israel in the Strip are already turning public opinion in some Western countries against the operation. To mitigate some of the damage, Israel has agreed to increase humanitarian aid to the south of the Strip. Now the option of allowing many dozens of trucks in from Egypt on a daily basis is also being discussed. Israel conditions this upon a strict security check. The humanitarian crisis in the Strip is significant. This may impact the IDF’s latitude, over time. In its first days, the ground operation took place in a rather orderly fashion. In recent years, all units taking part in the operation have undergone detailed training and practice for the event of war in Gaza under the Southern Command. Previous operational plans were less ambitious, and required adjustment following the October 7 terror attack. But the IDF is not unprepared for such a challenge. There is also the impact of other factors, such as fighting spirit and belief in the rightness of the cause. Despite the enormous anger at the government and security establishment brass, who share in the blame of the surprise attack and failure, it seems that troops and commanders alike are focused mainly on the effort to cripple Hamas. Hamas’ staying power On Tuesday morning Houthi rebels in Yemen, allied with Iran, fired ballistic missiles and launched drones from Yemen toward the city of Eilat in southern Israel, which were successfully intercepted over the Red Sea. This is part of the planned Iranian effort to back Hamas in its war against Israel. But the main focus of danger remains the Lebanese front. Hezbollah’s dilemma there sharpens more and more as the IDF’s incursion into the city of Gaza deepens, and Beirut and Tehran have concerns as to Hamas’ staying power. On this, as well, Israel had best err on the side of caution. In the 51 days of fighting during Operation Protective Edge in 2014, Military Intelligence predicted more than 10 times that Hamas would agree to a cease-fire, only to be proven wrong. Willingness to agree to a cease-fire only crystallized at the end of the military campaign, after the IDF greatly intensified aerial attacks in Gaza (a level far exceeded this time, in light of the circumstances). In the coming days Hezbollah may intensify its reactions, and try to gradually stretch its rocket line southward. This also depends on Israeli moves: The IDF is hitting a large part of the squads firing anti-tank missiles and mortars, gradually pushing Hezbollah’s Radwan Force positions from the border area. Arab media has reported that the commander of the al-Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards, General Esmail Qaani, came to Beirut after October 7 to consolidate Iran and Hezbollah’s response policy. And yet, the prevailing argument is that the final decision rests with Hezbollah Secretary General Hassan Nasrallah, and that Iranian leadership highly respects Nasrallah’s understanding of developments on the Israeli side. Meanwhile, polls are published in Lebanon, even in Hezbollah-affiliated media, showing most of the public opposed to Hezbollah’s involvement in the war, for fear that it will lead to the destruction of Lebanon, already suffering from a particularly severe economic crisis. Jordanian think tank al-Quds, whose senior staff are retired Jordanian generals, held a discussion on the war in Gaza. The institute’s members write that “the ground war in Gaza is an existential necessity for Israel, following the earthquake of October 7.” They estimate that “Iran will not intervene in the war directly, and Hezbollah will do so only if forced by Israel. The current situation in Arab countries does not indicate a widening of the war, and Washington shows a disinclination for such.” However, the Jordanian experts believe that “Israel may wipe out Hamas’ capabilities, but the resistance is an ideology, a doctrine and a never ending project. It will grow more popular and take on new forms.” Hysterical hyperbole Israel’s international difficulties are not limited to a lack of sympathy among Western liberals. The statements by Russian President Vladimir Putin have become more and more extreme, now bordering on antisemitism. Putin describes the war as part of a global struggle between good and evil. In his eyes, Russia and the Palestinians are on the same side, whereas Israel is part of an axis of evil with the U.S. and Ukraine, which all decent people should oppose. These things again shed the light of ridicule upon the claims by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, just a few short years ago, alleging that he had managed to make Russia pro-Israel. The shortsightedness of Israel’s foreign policy stood out again on Tuesday night, at the unsuccessful speech by Israel’s ambassador to the UN, Gilad Erdan. Israel’s arguments are strong enough. They need no bolstering via a theatrical display in which the ambassador and his staff affixed yellow stars to their lapels. The massacre committed by the Hamas terrorists in the Gaza border area may have been reminiscent in its brutality of images from the Holocaust, but Israel is not helpless. It is a regional military power, enjoying unprecedented security backing from the United States. This hysterical hyperbole does nothing but feed self-pity and panic. Dani Dayan, chairman of Yad Vashem, the Holocaust Memorial Museum (and as always, a voice of sanity and reason) rightly said that the ambassador’s choice desecrates both the victims of the Holocaust and the State of Israel. But somehow, one gets the sneaking suspicion that Erdan is not interested in the reactions of Dayan and his ilk. He’s already preparing for the Likud race for Netanyahu’s mantle. A powder keg Amidst all the terrible commotion, we mustn’t for a moment ignore what is happening in the West Bank. Security personnel following the developments there describe a deliberate effort by settlers – and not just the most extreme and violent ones – to take over territories, chase Palestinians away, and terrorize the residents of the West Bank, in a manner which may ignite a more severe conflict there as well. The sources say this is a broad, planned and organized operation, in which residents of illegal outposts also participate with sporadic and independent operations. The Civil Administration does not sufficiently document and report events, raising suspicions about a conspiracy of silence on the matter among IDF brass. Some actively collaborate in this effort, and others turn a blind eye and refrain from confrontations. Among the actions done are the paving of roads around settlements, connecting them to outposts and relatively new ranches. Some of the routes are paved by the IDF, though most are paved independently by the settlers. There is an organized move to run Palestinians off their lands through threats and violence, in the Susya area of the South Hebron Hills, among other areas. There is a noticeable uptick in displays of violence: The uprooting of hundreds of olive trees (in the Tulkarm area), arson, vandalism, and shootings (in the Yitzhar area). Concurrently, new illegal outposts have been established: Two near Peduel in the Ariel area, one in the Shiloh Valley north of Ramallah and one in the Jordan Valley. All these may seem like minuscule matters compared to the horrific massacre in the Gaza border area or the hard fighting in Gaza. But these incident have the potential to cause a deterioration in the West Bank, turning into another front that will pin down resources and troops the IDF needs in more urgent and critical theaters. The security establishment says that they plan to issue more administrative detention orders for extreme operatives (one has already been issued). Border Police troops are being beefed up in areas of friction between Palestinians and settlers, and the Shin Bet has entered the picture more actively. And yet, there is a powder keg here, threatening to explode. The state must respond more harshly, despite the presence of the hilltop youth’s delegates in the government and security cabinet. 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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Given the acute sensitivity of Jews to history, this wasn't war or even terrorism in the traditional sense, this was violent social engineering.
The barbarity of 7 October was designed to be an act that caused an irresistible response. It wasn't the "worst day for Jews since the Holocaust" by accident. That was the design. Iran can fracture a developing alliance by sacrificing people that it considers sub human, while attacking the only people in the region that will try to stop its nuclear program, and drag in the only other people in the world that can stop their nuclear program. Both of whom it considers the great Satan. The bonus kicker will be either turning Sunni Arab states against israel and the US or fomenting Civil unrest in those states thereby rending them ineffective and chaotic. Israel has to provide security for its people, no question. But it can go too far. |
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver: https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1719701693753962797 Footage was released today by the Houthi Terrorist Organization in Yemen which shows the launch of Ballistic and Land-Attack Cruise Missiles as well as Drones during their 4 claimed Attacks against Southern Israel over the last week or so. View Quote Using the Houthis is an Iranian ploy to get the Saudis to into the war seemingly on Israel's side. Kind of like Saddam tried in '91 when he shot Scuds at Israel. |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
Robert A. Heinlein, Friday |
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God's grace is not cheap; it's free.
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Originally Posted By Rossi: Uncanny similarity with the US' school system and how it deals with traditional moral values. Universities' masks dropped big time with the Hamas attack on Israel. View Quote Supposed “intellectuals” teaching that barbarism and 13 century behavior is tolerated if your skin is a certain tint or your religion sez it’s okay…fucking juvenile clowns. |
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God's grace is not cheap; it's free.
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Originally Posted By Rossi: Uncanny similarity with the US' school system and how it deals with traditional moral values. Universities' masks dropped big time with the Hamas attack on Israel. View Quote Supposed “intellectuals” teaching that barbarism and 13 century behavior is tolerated if your skin is a certain tint or your religion sez it’s okay…fucking juvenile clowns. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver: Biden admin reportedly considering stationing US troops in Gaza https://nypost.com/2023/10/30/news/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-latest-news-as-idf-expands-gaza-ground-operation/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By texashomeserver: Biden admin reportedly considering stationing US troops in Gaza https://nypost.com/2023/10/30/news/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-latest-news-as-idf-expands-gaza-ground-operation/ so much for "nothing to do with the israeli/gaza conflict" Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
HELLO WORLD! Are you listening here?? When someone tells you who they are in such a manner, its best to pay attention and believe them. |
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
View Quote I take them at their word. I repeat my best solution. Total war to the unconditional surrender of Hamas. |
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Trusting your life to the benevolence of an armed criminal is not a strategy, it is stupid!
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Originally Posted By Bophades: so much for "nothing to do with the israeli/gaza conflict" View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Bophades: Originally Posted By texashomeserver: Biden admin reportedly considering stationing US troops in Gaza https://nypost.com/2023/10/30/news/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-latest-news-as-idf-expands-gaza-ground-operation/ so much for "nothing to do with the israeli/gaza conflict" Words like "reportedly" and "considering" Does not in any way mean any of this is going to happen in the end. Context is everything. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By shotar: I take them at their word. I repeat my best solution. Total war to the unconditional surrender of Hamas. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By shotar: Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
I take them at their word. I repeat my best solution. Total war to the unconditional surrender of Hamas. Yep, they openly advertise their evil intent. Destroy them. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By xd341: The Palis have no place to go. They are such bad actors in global affairs that no nation wants them. They are full of Iranian influence, impossible to vet, have a history of insurgency and are the favored tool of the #1 global state sponsor of terror. It would be like donating your living body so cancer has a place to live. That being said, the citizens of those Arab countries, Egypt, SA, the emirates, jordan..they have huge populations that are sympathetic to the Palestinians. They also have reached relative peace with Israel, while not suffering popular uprisings, or having recovered from them. Israel is in the driver's seat here. If they try to drive the Palestinians out of Gaza the whole region goes to shit again. Iran knows this, that's why they use the Sunni Palestinians as a weapon, Iran is Shia, they think Sunnis are sub human. They don't actually care about Palestinians. They are just a pawn on Iran chess board. That's why Iranian proxies are also poking at Israel, trying to get them to over react and cause division in the Sunni Arab countries. Fucking turkey is helping View Quote If the Arabs want Israel to be the kennel, they should pay for the upkeep. |
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Originally Posted By shotar: I take them at their word. I repeat my best solution. Total war to the unconditional surrender of Hamas. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By shotar: Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
I take them at their word. I repeat my best solution. Total war to the unconditional surrender of Hamas. Omnes occidunt, Deus suos noverit. |
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
View Quote I see. And where will these future attacks be staged? |
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Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
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Originally Posted By Dave_Markowitz: Omnes occidunt, Deus suos noverit. View Quote Hamas is just a tool of Iran. |
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Originally Posted By xd341: It's not about the cancer. It's about allowing Iran to manipulate the region into a wider war. A war that will destabilize more than the Mid-east. This is all Iran. They are the puppet masters from Syria all the way through Gaza. I'm not worried about Israel. There is a lot of fight in the Jewish state and for good reason. Roughly half of the arab world is pretty OK with Islamic extremism. Maybe not participating but not resisting it either. Somehow most of the arab world is run by people willing to at least acknowledge that Israel exists. That's fragile. It was making quiet but significant progress. That's why Iran had to throw a wrench in the gears. If the Sunni Arab world aligns with Israel and the US, Iran is fucked. The last thing Iran can allow is Palestinians to have secure coexistence with Israel. The atrocities of 7 Oct were designed specifically to outrage Israel beyond control and make them fracture the region. View Quote Um, kicking the can down the road hasn't worked. Ever. |
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Originally Posted By xd341: It's not about the cancer. It's about allowing Iran to manipulate the region into a wider war. A war that will destabilize more than the Mid-east. This is all Iran. They are the puppet masters from Syria all the way through Gaza. I'm not worried about Israel. There is a lot of fight in the Jewish state and for good reason. Roughly half of the arab world is pretty OK with Islamic extremism. Maybe not participating but not resisting it either. Somehow most of the arab world is run by people willing to at least acknowledge that Israel exists. That's fragile. It was making quiet but significant progress. That's why Iran had to throw a wrench in the gears. If the Sunni Arab world aligns with Israel and the US, Iran is fucked. The last thing Iran can allow is Palestinians to have secure coexistence with Israel. The atrocities of 7 Oct were designed specifically to outrage Israel beyond control and make them fracture the region. View Quote Exploit their own sectarianism against them. Encourage the Sunni vs Shia divide, build a fence around that condlict and let them kill each other. |
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Originally Posted By Eagle157: Surrender is unacceptable. Hamas and their sympathizers must be wiped from existence or we will continue to see this type of crap for eternity. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Eagle157: Originally Posted By shotar: I take them at their word. I repeat my best solution. Total war to the unconditional surrender of Hamas. Surrender is unacceptable. Hamas and their sympathizers must be wiped from existence or we will continue to see this type of crap for eternity. It will continue with or without Hamas, plenty of other radical groups to step in if they are eliminated |
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
Link to imagery . View Quote Taken with a space potato? |
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Don't you tell me about galaxies! I walk them in the timeline.
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Originally Posted By texashomeserver: Biden admin reportedly considering stationing US troops in Gaza https://nypost.com/2023/10/30/news/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-latest-news-as-idf-expands-gaza-ground-operation/ View Quote Motherfucking American 'nationbuilding' again. US troops would be sitting ducks...IED magnets in that hell hole. |
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Originally Posted By michigan66: Beirut 2.0. This is really the dumbest administration in history. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By michigan66: Originally Posted By texashomeserver: Biden admin reportedly considering stationing US troops in Gaza https://nypost.com/2023/10/30/news/israel-hamas-war-live-updates-latest-news-as-idf-expands-gaza-ground-operation/ Beirut 2.0. This is really the dumbest administration in history. Bingo...said better than I did. |
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Originally Posted By fike: Taken with a space potato? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
Link to imagery . Taken with a space potato? I like to use the FIRMS, if weather is good, you can see the fires. https://firms.modaps.eosdis.nasa.gov/map/#t:tsd;d:24hrs,24hrs;l:fires_all,country-outline,landsat_human,aqua_crc,topo;@34.5,31.5,11.3z |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile: The Israelis illustrated this with the Super Sherman and Sho't. Eh, the M240 is a better option. We would improve by ditching the SAW and making a licensed version of the Negev, however. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By GarandM1: As the War in Ukraine has illustrated, even an old tank is better than none at all. In fact a cheap old tank can be quickly upgraded and turned into an effective weapon, especially if you have lots of ammo for it. An M-60 updated with the latest optics and technology is not a bad option for infantry support. We would improve by ditching the SAW and making a licensed version of the Negev, however. M60 tank, not a belt-fed LMG. :) |
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With all of the antisemitic activity going on in the US I was reminded of the Jewish Defense League that operated here in the 70s and 80s. Here's a 2017 article from the ADL slagging the founder for stating pretty much exactly what's happening right now before our eyes.
ADL on the JDL "The Jewish Defense League, also known as JDL, was established in 1968 for the declared purpose of protecting Jews by whatever means necessary in the face of what was seen by the group's principals as their dire peril. The founder, national chairman and leader of the JDL was a then-38-year-old ordained rabbi from Brooklyn, New York, Meir Kahane, who, in 1990, was assassinated in New York by an Arab extremist. In Rabbi Kahane's gross distortion of the position of Jews in America, American Jews were living in a fiercely hostile society, facing much the same dangers as the Jews in Nazi Germany or those in Israel surrounded by 100-million Arab enemies. Rabbi Kahane believed that the major Jewish organizations in the United States had failed to protect America's Jews from anti-Semitism, which he saw as "exploding" all over the country. "If I have succeeded in instilling fear in you," Rabbi Kahane said in the closing statement of his standard speech, "I consider this evening a success." In fact, Kahane consistently preached a radical form of Jewish nationalism which reflected racism, violence and political extremism." |
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Translation: Al-Qassam Brigades publishes scenes of targeting Israeli naval targets with Asif torpedoes
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
View Quote What the hell happened to his head? |
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Originally Posted By Croak: M60 tank, not a belt-fed LMG. :) View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Croak: Originally Posted By SoCalExile: Originally Posted By GarandM1: As the War in Ukraine has illustrated, even an old tank is better than none at all. In fact a cheap old tank can be quickly upgraded and turned into an effective weapon, especially if you have lots of ammo for it. An M-60 updated with the latest optics and technology is not a bad option for infantry support. We would improve by ditching the SAW and making a licensed version of the Negev, however. M60 tank, not a belt-fed LMG. :) Wouldn't want to be in one though with all the AT stuff flying around. I prefer my ammo in separate compartments with blowout panels. |
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Originally Posted By fike: Taken with a space potato? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
Link to imagery . Taken with a space potato? I thought it was a slow connection on my end, guess it wasn't. All I could see was grey areas when zoomed way out. |
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Originally Posted By AZ_M1: Maybe the goat age? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AZ_M1: Originally Posted By amendment: Originally Posted By _DR: Smack them a bit? How about send some Buffs from Diego Garcia and bomb them into the stone age. With all the hysteria about Gaza civilians no one will notice. They're already in the stone age, hmm what came before the stone age? Maybe the goat age? I think it was the Bone the Goat age... |
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Link:https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/why-some-israeli-ah-64-apaches-have-a-big-belly-bulge ![]() |
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Originally Posted By garanditis: Imagine you are running through a maze toward a target. You don't have time to check your map and compass. Wouldn't it be nice to have a someone putting a signal in the sky over the target? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By garanditis: Originally Posted By PolarBear416: Curious, why do they fire flares in daytime? Knowledge.... dropped. ![]() |
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Originally Posted By _DR: Originally Posted By bigstick61: While gendarmeries are primarily tasked with civilian law enforcement, unlike our police they are, in fact, military. They are not armed and equipped the same as the regular army, though. This is correct. Yup but those were not Gendarmes but Policemen. To make it simple: Police is doing law enforcement in the cities. Gendarmerie in the rural areas. But as we don't like to make it simple: sometimes you can find them in the same areas. And if it's a really serious situation with hostages or large casualties, it's going to be a job for the GIGN, part of the gendarmerie. GIGN can use whatever they want. Regular gendarmes are using Tikka T3, UMP9, FAMAS, G36, HK416, CZ 805 Bren 2, Browning Pump Shotgun, Glock 26 and Sig SP 2022 Policemen are using: HK36, UMP9, SIG SP 2022, Benelli shotguns Sorry for the thread sliding. |
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Originally Posted By fike: Taken with a space potato? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
Link to imagery . Taken with a space potato? Glad it's not just me. |
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Originally Posted By GarandM1: Correct. People are assuming this is a simple of matter of Israel barging into Gaza and crushing everything in their path. Which of course they are more than capable of doing, but as we saw in Afghanistan there are other factors besides sheer military power which determine who wins in the end. Bibi has to weigh his military objectives against their effect on European public opinion, Arab public opinion, Israeli domestic opinion, and most of all, US public opinion. Israel is not an island; it cannot survive on its own and needs the approval and support of the rest of the world. Turning Gaza into a smoking crater full of dead jihadis and their families is not in their best interest. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By GarandM1: Originally Posted By xd341: The humanity of hamas is not in debate. They have none. The humanity that needs to preserved is that of Israel. The easiest thing in the world is to take the righteous anger of Israel and use it to raze Gaza and all that live there. They have the ability and the motive. There is even a practical security justification that is impossible to argue against. In order for Israel to have a secure future they can't just wipe Gaza off the map. They can target Hamas, they can inflict some collateral damage in pursuit of that end, but they can't go all hand of God on Gaza. The entire world will end up worse off if they do. The Arab countries that are nominal allies at this point will not survive if Israel expels Palestinians from Gaza, the citizens of those countries will rise up against thier government, likely with the help of Iran. Plunging the world into at least a regional war, if not something bigger. The world is a tinder box right now, more so than at any time since the cold war and there are already several little fires smoldering. Israel needs to take the high road, not because Hamas deserves it, but because the global stakes are higher than they have been since '76. Israel has the ability to reverse a generation of progress if they get this wrong. Bibi has to weigh his military objectives against their effect on European public opinion, Arab public opinion, Israeli domestic opinion, and most of all, US public opinion. Israel is not an island; it cannot survive on its own and needs the approval and support of the rest of the world. Turning Gaza into a smoking crater full of dead jihadis and their families is not in their best interest. It comes down to those pesky "2nd and 3rd effects". War is an extension of diplomacy and politics, and relies on national will and logistics. You can have the best tactical and operational Army on the planet (Germany in both world wars) and still lose the strategic war. You can win most (or even every) major battle and achieve every militarily attainable objective and still lose the peace (the US in Vietnam, Afghanistan, Lebanon, etc) or end up with a "tie" with strategically ambiguous outcomes (Korea, Iraq, etc). Even attempting to massacre all of your opponents can backfire in time if the conditions to create enduring demographic and cultural changes are mishandled or do not exist (the Holmidor, the Holocaust, the Armenian Genocide, the Thirty Years War, etc). Unless we want to truly destabilize Russia or China, or we decide to colonize Antarctica, there is literally nowhere on earth to send the Hamas-aligned Palestinians where they WON'T destabilize the area regardless of religion, confession, or culture. Note also that there Are large numbers of Palestinian Christian, Druze, Sufis, Bedouins, etc, who are by no means an existential threat to Israel or any of it's neighboring countries, and these are the folks who will be paraded by the media in any massacre-type event. Israel can win any war against it's neighbors, but they only get one major strategic error, after which it is a long swim to Greece or Italy. A Pyritic military victory could be as strategically destructive to Israel in the long-term as an outright military defeat, which is why they haven't hit the "easy" button of overwhelming military force. Look at the Ukraine/Russia conflict, where there is probably no outcome in which Russia can benefit from the war at this point regardless of ultimate success/failure. Russia has irredeemably exacerbated it's demographic decline in the short/medium term, sacrificed or disillusioned many of it's most patriotic citizens, has massive amounts of it's best equipment destroyed while blowing through one of the most extensive war reserves on the planet, supercharged the emigration rate of it's most talented citizens, discredited some of it's newest weapons systems, wrecked the profitability of it's key weapons and oil export sectors, cut itself off from most foreign investment, generally reset the economy to the late Soviet era, destroyed 30 years of masterful diplomatic and information success, and the list goes on. Israel does not want to end up like Russia, which, at best, will probably be a Chinese vassal state by the end of the decade. |
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Originally Posted By TinSpinner: It will continue with or without Hamas, plenty of other radical groups to step in if they are eliminated View Quote What they won't have with Hamas gone are experienced leaders capable of pulling off a 7 Oct style blitz. Who are the leaders of Hamas? The men behind the attack on Israel--from Sunday Times Hamas’s deadly “phantom”: the man behind the attack--Muhammad Deif transformed the militant group from a cluster of terrorist cells into a force capable of invading Israel |
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"A dying culture invariably exhibits personal rudeness. Bad manners. Lack of consideration for others in minor matters. A loss of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot."
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Originally Posted By shotar: I take them at their word. I repeat my best solution. Total war to the unconditional surrender of Hamas. View Quote We’re past surrender. The only way this thing ends is either with Israel no longer standing or a major regional war that draws us in that likely ends in WWIII. There’s a way out but our administration and the court of public opinion don’t have the stomach for it. Drop MOABs on Tehran and Damascus while leveling every square inch of GAZA. Pull back every student visa for every student here from that part of the world and seal the damn border. Park a couple Ballistic Missile Subs off the Med and the first reprisal attack after the MOABs fall gets the offending nation’s royal palace or presidential residence and their governmental chambers flattened, 2nd attack we destroy every power station, water treatment station, and waste water treatment station in every major urban population center in the country, 3rd reprisal attack we nuke their capital and sink every military ship in their port, and set every oil field ablaze. There’s a way to win wars without winning heart and minds. |
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Originally Posted By tnriverluver: right click save! ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tnriverluver: Originally Posted By HiramRanger: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218/4D9EF5ED-D835-4865-B86A-A5F39D55704B-3010738.jpg right click save! ![]() We are giving them away as part of a fundraiser for the IDF Widows and Orphans Fund. Details here. PM me if interested. |
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Originally Posted By Logcutter: Um, kicking the can down the road hasn't worked. Ever. View Quote Extremism is the bigger problem but that is only fixed by societal and economic stability. Which can't happen when you have radical theocracies in charge. They need extremism to exist. Turkey is headed full steam down that path. |
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Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Reactive armor on top of the cope cage would be my guess. https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2023/05/06/Cope-cage.jpg?auto=webp&crop=16%3A9&auto=webp&optimize=high&quality=70&width=1440 View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By walkinginadangerzone: Originally Posted By x248716x: see a few Merkavas with COPE cages for drone-dropped grenades, etc. wonder what the next generation of tank design, how it will be incorporated. active armor topside? mounted on stand-off plate? Reactive armor on top of the cope cage would be my guess. https://www.thedrive.com/uploads/2023/05/06/Cope-cage.jpg?auto=webp&crop=16%3A9&auto=webp&optimize=high&quality=70&width=1440 lol, Israeli forces aren't stupid. Those are supposed to be mounted against armor that can withstand the blast when the explosives inside them detonate. ![]() ![]() https://thesovietarmourblog.blogspot.com/p/kontakt-1.html |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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