On Sept 12, 2001 I was sure we (The West) and probably Russia, were about to put an end to Islamic Terrorism forever and force Islam to reform and be part of the modern world, or go extinct.

Instead the West has gone on a 20 year suicide mission to appease, avoid offending, supporting, and allowing Islam to infiltrate the highest levels of government.

Looking back, I'm pretty close to declaring 9-11 as not the point where the war started, but where they won it. Every subsequent terrorist attack in the West since, citizens have lost more rights and freedom, while the governments refuse to do anything that might offend muslims.

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\uD83C\uDDEE\uD83C\uDDF1??\uD83C\uDDF5\uD83C\uDDF8 In memory of their comrades who lost their lives during the conflict, Israeli forces conducted a commemorative ceremony in Gaza at one of the staging areas that Palestinian factions had utilized as an assembly point for the terrorist attacks of October 7th. pic.twitter.com/Sa5CJJfXko

— Astraia Intel \uD83C\uDDFA\uD83C\uDDE6\uD83C\uDDEE\uD83C\uDDF1 (@astraiaintel) November 17, 2023

https://thehill.com/policy/international/4313098-naacp-cease-fire-middle-east-israel-hamas/amp/

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All fun and games until some troublemakers start slashing tires, or worse.  Then it's a problem.

How about you call for an end to the violence in the black community, and let Israel handle their business.

Fuck the Holocaust denying New York Slimes!

Fuck ceasefires!  Send them all every one to their 72 female pig virgins!

Someone needs to mount a camera over South Gaza so we can watch it get destroyed now.

This.

Unfortunately for everyone, the so-called "Masters of the Universe" took the wrong lessons from the fall of the Berlin Wall.  There were essentially two schools of thought on how things would pan out; for simplicities sake (therefore risking gross simplification), the "Fukuyama" school and the "Huntington" school.  Francis Fukuyama wrote the famous essay "The End of History and the Last Man" in which he posited that all of the major historical issues had all been settled by the fall of Communism, that every major question had more-or-less been settled, that the world would be governed by some form of liberal democracy and all of the economics would be capitalistic.  With no "Big Questions" left to settle, Fukuyama feared that people would become  Nietzsche's "Last Man"; not really concerned with any big issues and consumed by mediocrity.  Well, to the folks who were large and in charge, a world of sheep-like consumers with them in the role of the "Übermensch" leadership, divorced from Christian concepts of morality, and power being the end in itself, to rule them seemed optimal.  Therefore, allowing all of these radical movements "space to destroy" over relatively trivial issues was actually seen by them as a way to distract the disaffected from major issues by slowly coopting them into the Last Man "Borg" while in the interim using them as a wedge to keep the majority of the Borg distracted from the major issues as well.  Ultimately, the goal was to create a culture based on the "Last Man" worldwide.  As Thomas Friedman put it, "No two countries with McDonalds ever went to war against each other" (which is no longer true, but it briefs well as a corporate bullet point).  Conversely, my man Samuel Huntington predicted a "Clash of Civilizations", where all of the previous ethnic, racial, geographic, and religious divisions would come to the fore and be drivers of major instability; essentially, Huntington was saying that the Cold War was actually a stabilizing influence on geopolitics and that, far from being dead, History would soon start speedballing Coke and Meth and lead to worldwide instability, with new alliances, coalitions, and empires forming to challenge the existing western order creating escalating worldwide instability.  This is not something the International Bright Young Things nor the Emerging Global Establishment wanted to hear.  By trying to coopt the Third World, the western leaders have essentially destabilized the world, and their place in it.  To counteract this, they are trying desperately to hammer the "round peg" of a Fukuyama worldview into the square hole of a Huntington reality, which is accelerating the destabilization.

1990s deja vu

It was the Muslim Brotherhood member and former IAEA director, Mohamed ElBaradei, that pushed the Iran nuclear deal to begin with.

9/11 happened because foreign policy advisors like Brzezinski enabled the modern jihadists and then declared there was no threat from Islam.

US Special Forces veteran says Israel must be given support to win 'full-on victory' against terrorists

A retired special forces veteran who worked closely with the Israeli military says the U.S. government needs to be relentless in its support for the Jewish state amid mounting criticism worldwide.

In an interview with Fox News Digital, retired Army Special Forces Lt. Col. Yinon Weiss, who served for 23 years, including exercises with Israeli Special Operations and special forces units in Israel, says it is imperative that Americans recognize the Oct. 7 attacks as a "Pearl Harbor" moment for Israel.

"Israel views this event as a 9/11-type event, as a Pearl Harbor-type event. And actually, per capita, it's 10 or 20 times worse than either one of those events," which is in contrast, Weiss says, to what a lot of Americans view as an escalation of a decades-long, terrorist conflict.

"And so, with those two different perspectives, we have very different views on response and the cost of the response," he said, adding that the chasm in difference of perspectives stems also from the West’s unfamiliarity with actually winning a war – which Weiss points out has not been done since 1945.

"When Japan attacked the United States [at] Pearl Harbor, there [was] no real consideration for 'What would Tokyo look like after this war?’ There [was] no asking for permission from the League of Nations. There [was] no going to other countries and asking for considerations for support. The United States made a decision to declare war on Japan and the war would go [on] until Japan was destroyed," Weiss said.

"When the United States went to war with Germany. Germany, the Nazi Party, would be destroyed. There wasn't a hesitation of ‘What would Berlin look like after this war is done?’" he said.

"This is a very difficult concept for, I think, a lot of people in the West to consider because the West has not destroyed an enemy since 1945. Every war the West has engaged in since 1945 has been to eliminate objectives. It's been for a regime change. It's been to repel an enemy. It's been to gain an advantage over an enemy. It has not been to destroy an enemy," he said.

Weiss noted that his military peers have a mindset that wars can’t be definitively won: "It's unfortunate to see that we do have generations of Americans that have this mindset that you cannot win a war."

Weiss explained that, in his view, with the total loss in Israel at the hands of Hamas terrorists being the equivalent to a drug cartel killing 200,000 Americans in a single day, the conflict in Israel against Hamas is a "full-on war" and "nothing short of a full-on victory will be acceptable."

Weiss said "the best thing that the United States can do is give Israel political top cover" but let Israel fight its own war.

"I would rather see Israel stand on its own, which I believe it can, and fight its enemy on its own and not be restrained by U.S. views that's tied to aid" along with deterrence to escalation, Weiss said.

The special forces veteran also said he is "sympathetic" to the argument that the U.S. should be secure in its own borders before it sends money to foreign wars.

"I think the most important thing the United States can do is ensure that as Israel goes into Gaza, and as casualties mount, that the United States adamantly defends Israel's right to self-defense, that it supports Israel’s right to complete the job that [it] needs to do," especially as other countries and American lawmakers call for a cease-fire, he said.

As a descendant of Holocaust victims, Weiss has historical context to evaluate the rise in antisemitic rhetoric, especially on elite college campuses across the country.

"My father used to always say that the Holocaust can happen anywhere and Jews can never assume that they're fully safe. I am not overly surprised by what we're seeing. I am surprised by how little pushback there is from the organizations that are overseeing these institutions that oversee these demonstrations," he said, calling out institutions like Harvard University, University of Pennsylvania and other schools for allowing demonstrations on campus that involved calls for violence against Jews.

"This is really Jews saying, ‘Never again is now,’ meaning that they have been saying, ‘Never again,' since the Holocaust, and now it feels like the time is here," Weiss said. "Never again is now; Israel must destroy the enemy in order to deter any other groups to ever again think that they can do what they did on Oct. 7 in Israel."

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Why the fugazis?

No.

That would be a half measure.

End this.  The only terms must be unconditional surrender.  Anything less drags yet another generation into endless conflict and suffering.

Unconditional surrender is the only humane solution.

Wooden training rifles for the nits?

Are those things real rockets or props?  

??Full translated letter of General Qaani to Mohammad Deif:

In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful

Fight them after they fought you. Allah has the power over them, and He will support you with His help and strengthen your hearts against them. (Al-Fath 48:22)… pic.twitter.com/7DKjLZejrQ

— Arya - ???? \uD83C\uDDEE\uD83C\uDDF7 (@AryJeay) November 16, 2023

Fuck Hamas.  It’s bigger than them.  The only solution is breaking the Palestinian peoples will to fight.  Sure you could crush Hamas but a new shit organization will replace them before they are even dead.

The problem specifically is the Palestinian people believe river to the sea so there’s nothing to negotiate about.  I hope the Israelis have the conviction and resolve to resist the world’s demands and do what they need to end this to break this cycle of violence.

Why are those Jews attacking those poor hungry muslims. Brings a tear to my eye to hear them cry our for a snackbar

Those snackbars sure seem to be popular. Must be good

And fuck the NYT.

Oh according to Pres potato's presser a couple days ago, we are getting great cooperation from the Qataris.

Are those rubber AR-15s?

I saw quite a bit of discussion on them being props for parades. They look like they were made in a shed and with the propulsion business end being flat, well..

Wood

Why take them? Or leave to rub in the IDFs face, ie, "we took all the good stuff, we leave this for you."

I assume they are the ones that they train the eight year olds with.

Large-Scale Rocket Attack on the City of Tel Aviv and Central Israel. pic.twitter.com/ji2TtFZ9Uj

OSINTdefender  (@sentdefender) November 17, 2023

It seems a large number of the murderers, especially the higher ups have escaped into southern gaza and who knows where else. You know they will re-group and continue to attack Israel at some point. This will not end quickly, the main evil (iran) still holds the leash on the monsters.

Are those fuses coming out the back?

Protective weather cover?  Rope pull to pop them off.

“On top of it, people comment how divided the US is.  We do not seem so divided as the Jews, who have factions that appear to support Hamas and what it did in Israel.  That's insane. “

Any red state could be completely destroyed and 10% of the population (left wackos) would cheer
We have are own problems also

Well said.

I had a prof in college who was a fan of Fukuyama. Both my prof and Fukuyama were full of shit.

It was funny watching him defend it.

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The IDF says troops took captures and destroyed a major weapon production post containing unique weapons belonging to Islamic Jihad in the Gaza Strip. pic.twitter.com/5xAZs44AZ7

Joe Truzman  (@JoeTruzman) November 17, 2023

How are they still launching rockets?

Shiny bits magnesium or phosphorus?

Awesome!  

There's still a few hundred "hospitals" left standing.

IDK but it was sparkly.   At the end there was a lot of small fires all around it too.

Under Obama we had an Attorney General that not only defended terrorists in his private law firm but seems to have purposely lost suits to CAIR (Hamas) as a US Attorney to alter our policies towards terrorism and terror sponsor countries, and our official nomenclature and vocabulary towards Islamic fundamentalism and terror.  His attorneys may have even advised CAIR and other Islamist groups on how to file and win those suits.  I wouldn’t put it past them.

Tunnels if shot from the northern half of Gaza.

The Jews that support what happened are very few in number.  They just get lots of airtime.

As has been said in this thread, they are like the Jewish version of the Westboro Baptist Church.


The Jews calling for a ceasefire, that is a larger group but still a minority.  It is made up almost entirely of secular Jews…outside of a Israel.   These Jews also get lots of airtime.