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Lol op had to start a new thread because he was getting pounded in the other one.
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This one has about run it’s course. Should I start the 4Runner owner’s crying room now or give this one some more time?
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Quoted: Funny, the only people I see in here acting like “crazy baby fanboy” hurling insults are the Jeep owners. Go figure. Already made it clear, I don’t have a dog in the fight, but sure was easy to get everyone who claims to not give a shit spun right up. It’s literally a who’s who of Jeep avatars in here defending fiat. View Quote OP you created a thread to insult Jeep guys and get surprised when you get a response. I am a die hard Jeep guy and I am glad there is competition. That being said, I am not selling my Jeep to buy this anymore than I would buy skin tight jeans. |
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Quoted: Ok. So if the bronco does what they say it does. whats Jeeps move? put rubicons at a reasonable price? add power? make lower end models that have Offroad features? their business model just went down the tubes. personally j hope it lowers the used market if anything. I wouldn't mind buying a Jeep, but not paying what they go for. i miss my XJ mostly. Was best Jeep. View Quote I've built 2 XJ's and enjoyed both more than the wrangler. It helps to be able to haul coolers to the campsite ![]() 4.5" lift, lockers, and 33" pizza cutters make for a mean rig. |
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Quoted: Here is another one for the followers of gay Bronco ![]() https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/attachments/dsc_0933-jpg.31693/ View Quote Yep, looks like about $120k worth of shit that’s never left the pavement. |
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Quoted: Here is another one for the followers of gay Bronco ![]() https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/attachments/dsc_0933-jpg.31693/ View Quote A lot of us don't have forklifts, so, what's the point? |
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Quoted: OP you created a thread to insult Jeep guys and get surprised when you get a response. I am a die hard Jeep guy and I am glad there is competition. That being said, I am not selling my Jeep to buy this anymore than I would buy skin tight jeans. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Funny, the only people I see in here acting like “crazy baby fanboy” hurling insults are the Jeep owners. Go figure. Already made it clear, I don’t have a dog in the fight, but sure was easy to get everyone who claims to not give a shit spun right up. It’s literally a who’s who of Jeep avatars in here defending fiat. OP you created a thread to insult Jeep guys and get surprised when you get a response. I am a die hard Jeep guy and I am glad there is competition. That being said, I am not selling my Jeep to buy this anymore than I would buy skin tight jeans. Bro. This is an important human. He drives a |
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Quoted: Most expensive trim on the site right now is $58k starts at 28. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Jeep took a shit after the TJ’s. I had my TJ for 14years before I sold it. Bronco looks sweet. I imagine it’s going to be crazy expensive. Most expensive trim on the site right now is $58k starts at 28. I haven’t been paying attention but at that price point they’ll sell a bazillion of them. |
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Buy what you want! As long as you havin fun with what you got, don’t worry about nobody’s else’s choice!
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Quoted: It seems from the group of people I know that are in the market, the bronco will take more from the toyota fan base than jeep. I've spent a bit of time in a lifted JL rubicon. It drove fine, had decent power around town with the 8 speed auto, and was generally a comfortable, capable off roader. the issue i had with it was that even with its mild lift and 35s, I would be at risk of splitting suit pants hiking my leg up into it every day, and my wife would have a really hard time getting in and out on the reg. I think that is why there are a lot more people from the toyota camp interested in a bronco than from the jeep camp. people that off road a toyota already have made the choice between interior space, ride quality, and capability. there are a lot of toyota guys running around with high dollar suspensions on their 4runner or tacoma and 33" tires, because of the amount of hassle required to go to a 34 or 35" tire. The ability to drive out of the dealership with something similarly comfortable inside and as easy to get in and out of as their 4runner or tacoma with factory 35s and not really far from 37s is a big deal for a lot of toyota folks. We will see how the bronco does on the trails once it comes out, but on paper it looks to be very close or as good as a stock rubicon unlimited in capability, with better ride, comfort, and handling out of the box. I was a little annoyed when i looked through the build tool for the gladiator and JL and saw that even after you're dropping the coin on a rubicon, they charged extra for literally everything. auxiliary switches pre-wired: extra $800, winch ready bumper: extra, 12v power outlet in the bed of the gladiator: extra, and so on. It is refreshing to see that the aux switches are standard on most of the more offroad oriented versions of the bronco, maybe it will force FCA to include more stuff as standard and shorten the options sheet a bit. View Quote ![]() Sold my ICON built 2017 SCREW in April and quickly proceeded to get into a TRDP. Been building it and its got the same 33" that comes on the Bronco - for me to go to 295's or 315's would mean BMC (no biggie), gears ($$$) and different wheels for offset to clear the UCA's. Since it lives on payment 98% of the time it is not a big deal as I can still go where I desire. If I wanted to play on the rocks (Wooly's, WindRock, etc...) I'd build a TJ to beat up on the trail. That said if this were on the market in April, I'm not sure how to answer that. A turnkey out off the lot rig with all the mods I'd do anyways.....(Badlands trim) would of possibly taken my money. Having a shit experience with Ford (frozen door locks - no real fix, tranny issues, and seat belt recall) I'm going to wait for the first few months of them in the wild and watch the bronco forums for what seems to be the issues. That said Ford just changed the game. |
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Lot of effint of ansgt
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() NMF Funny thing is when you really get away from the malls, Starbucks and civilization, this is the kinda shit you see in operation. ![]() Something for the Jeep guys |
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Quoted: Lot of effint of ansgt ![]() https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/14291/1566_jpg-1503619.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/14291/1473_jpg-1503625.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/14291/Bush_Taxi_jpg-1503621.JPG NMF Funny thing is when you really get away from the malls, Starbucks and civilization, this is the kinda shit you see in operation. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/14291/575_jpg-1503626.JPG Something for the Jeep guys View Quote Only a poor would be upset if somebody spent their own money to modify their vehicle and use as they choose. A true moron ignores capability. |
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Quoted: Antirocks are better. View Quote Care to fill me in on this? In the research I did, it seemed that antirocks were a compromise, and neither as good as a connected swaybar on-road, nor as good as a disconnected swaybar off-road. With that said, I've never used them, just researched them for my own potential use. I'd love to hear more. |
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Quoted: Lot of effint of ansgt ![]() https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/14291/1566_jpg-1503619.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/14291/1473_jpg-1503625.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/14291/Bush_Taxi_jpg-1503621.JPG NMF Funny thing is when you really get away from the malls, Starbucks and civilization, this is the kinda shit you see in operation. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/14291/575_jpg-1503626.JPG Something for the Jeep guys View Quote Only the last pic might make it to my duck blind after a 2" rain. Tires would probably kill the deal though. |
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Quoted: I'll put 17" steel wagon wheels on it just like my jku. Want the bigfoot pack minus the alum wheels, prob on Black Diamond or maybe even base. Bought my JKU used and had alum moto-methtard wheels on it. from this https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/435933/IMG_2895-1503617.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/435933/IMG_5432-1424586.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Hard pass on alloy wheels. Nice that the Bronco base wheels are stamped steel, like a proper off-road vehicle. ![]() I'll put 17" steel wagon wheels on it just like my jku. Want the bigfoot pack minus the alum wheels, prob on Black Diamond or maybe even base. Bought my JKU used and had alum moto-methtard wheels on it. from this https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/435933/IMG_2895-1503617.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/435933/IMG_5432-1424586.jpg Great use of wide angle, the garbage can really accents the composition. ![]() ![]() |
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Quoted: Care to fill me in on this? In the research I did, it seemed that antirocks were a compromise, and neither as good as a connected swaybar on-road, nor as good as a disconnected swaybar off-road. With that said, I've never used them, just researched them for my own potential use. I'd love to hear more. View Quote It's because it's what he runs ![]() I can assure you that having an e-disco is better. They are using them(e-disco) in the UTV racing field now and they are game changers. |
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Quoted: this feature is supreme tits. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/164007/Screen_Shot_2020-07-14_at_1_38_39_PM-1503637.png View Quote That’s factory? NICE. Jeep says “The aftermarket will handle that”. I really hope this starts a bit of an arms race between the two companies. This could benefit us all. |
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Quoted: Yep, looks like about $120k worth of shit that’s never left the pavement. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Here is another one for the followers of gay Bronco ![]() https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/attachments/dsc_0933-jpg.31693/ Yep, looks like about $120k worth of shit that’s never left the pavement. Or Tank Customs (whomever that is) just finished the lift/wheels/tires on that new Jeep and is testing out the flex? ![]() OP, you do know pressure washers are a thing, right? I take mine off-road all the time, but then I use a pressure washer and foam cannon to clean it. Just because it is clean doesn't mean it's never used. Some people don't like to ride around in dirty shit. I even buff out the Florida pinstripes once a year so the paint looks good. But I'm sure that makes me a poser too. ![]() |
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Quoted: this feature is supreme tits. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/164007/Screen_Shot_2020-07-14_at_1_38_39_PM-1503637.png View Quote Yes it is, probably my favorite feature of the new bronco. I want one for my tj |
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Quoted: Or Tank Customs (whomever that is) just finished the lift/wheels/tires on that new Jeep and is testing out the flex? ![]() OP, you do know pressure washers are a thing, right? I take mine off-road all the time, but then I use a pressure washer and foam cannon to clean it. Just because it is clean doesn't mean it's never used. Some people don't like to ride around in dirty shit. I even buff out the Florida pinstripes once a year so the paint looks good. But I'm sure that makes me a poser too. ![]() View Quote I’m assuming your pressure washer or mud/rocks probably blew the bar code sticker off of your drag link though. |
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Quoted: It's because it's what he runs ![]() I can assure you that having an e-disco is better. They are using them(e-disco) in the UTV racing field now and they are game changers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Care to fill me in on this? In the research I did, it seemed that antirocks were a compromise, and neither as good as a connected swaybar on-road, nor as good as a disconnected swaybar off-road. With that said, I've never used them, just researched them for my own potential use. I'd love to hear more. It's because it's what he runs ![]() I can assure you that having an e-disco is better. They are using them(e-disco) in the UTV racing field now and they are game changers. Sadly, the e-disco on the Rubicons seems to be made out of Toys-R-Us shit. I've seen numerous stories of them failing after a little mud gets on them. |
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Had a '76 Renegade CJ-5 with V8
Had an old Ford Bronco '69 Wife has her 4Runner TRD ORP The new Bronco 2 door is growing on me....was going to get a SxS but rethinking that now. One of these + my F250 regular cab 8ft box might be the perfect combo for us. Nice to have options |
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Quoted: Swaybar disco is better. We have been modernized ![]() View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Sway bar disconnect is an unneeded nuisance. Hope ford’s version is more reliable. Antirocks are better. Swaybar disco is better. We have been modernized ![]() Jeep should provide the manual conversion with the rubi. Certainly is common among the JKs I know. |
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Quoted: I never understood some people's fascination with degrading Jeeps; tho each their own I guess. My JLU is my fourth Jeep and for me it's great. I also like the Tacoma. I never liked the newer FJ (old ones are badass). I'd sure like to see one of these Broncos in person. Competition is a good thing ![]() View Quote Don’t be bringing rational thought in here. This is for purse swinging only. Jeep LJR owner here and I am looking forward to seeing the new Bronco. I have also owned 3 Broncos. |
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Quoted: this feature is supreme tits. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/164007/Screen_Shot_2020-07-14_at_1_38_39_PM-1503637.png View Quote They stole that from a wrangler aftermarket Vector mount. Im going to install it on mine with a trail map app that shows where Starbucks is. ![]() |
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Quoted: Yep, looks like about $120k worth of shit that’s never left the pavement. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Here is another one for the followers of gay Bronco ![]() https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/attachments/dsc_0933-jpg.31693/ Yep, looks like about $120k worth of shit that’s never left the pavement. You might get dirty if you leave the pavement. Or scratches. Gross. |
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Quoted: A lot of us don't have forklifts, so, what's the point? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Here is another one for the followers of gay Bronco ![]() https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/attachments/dsc_0933-jpg.31693/ A lot of us don't have forklifts, so, what's the point? Toyota owners don’t have the flex to need a forklift. Just put a tire on a 2x4. |
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Quoted: I'll put 17" steel wagon wheels on it just like my jku. Want the bigfoot pack minus the alum wheels, prob on Black Diamond or maybe even base. Bought my JKU used and had alum moto-methtard wheels on it. from this https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/435933/IMG_2895-1503617.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/435933/IMG_5432-1424586.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Hard pass on alloy wheels. Nice that the Bronco base wheels are stamped steel, like a proper off-road vehicle. ![]() I'll put 17" steel wagon wheels on it just like my jku. Want the bigfoot pack minus the alum wheels, prob on Black Diamond or maybe even base. Bought my JKU used and had alum moto-methtard wheels on it. from this https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/435933/IMG_2895-1503617.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/435933/IMG_5432-1424586.jpg Gross. Another Jeep that isn’t wheeled. |
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Quoted: Here is another one for the followers of gay Bronco ![]() https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/attachments/dsc_0933-jpg.31693/ View Quote That pretty much screams high school gay Jeep club. |
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Quoted: It's because it's what he runs ![]() I can assure you that having an e-disco is better. They are using them(e-disco) in the UTV racing field now and they are game changers. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Care to fill me in on this? In the research I did, it seemed that antirocks were a compromise, and neither as good as a connected swaybar on-road, nor as good as a disconnected swaybar off-road. With that said, I've never used them, just researched them for my own potential use. I'd love to hear more. It's because it's what he runs ![]() I can assure you that having an e-disco is better. They are using them(e-disco) in the UTV racing field now and they are game changers. Pretty much this. I’ve found a front antirock certainly “feels” better and more stable, but it could be placebo. I’ve not know anyone to run both and prefer disconnects to an antirock. ETA: This is my last kinda serious post in a Jeep thread. |
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Quoted: That pretty much screams high school gay Jeep club. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Here is another one for the followers of gay Bronco ![]() https://www.jlwranglerforums.com/forum/attachments/dsc_0933-jpg.31693/ That pretty much screams high school gay Jeep club. What?!? Why? |
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Quoted: Pretty much this. I’ve found a front antirock certainly “feels” better and more stable, but it could be placebo. I’ve not know anyone to run both and prefer disconnects to an antirock. ETA: This is my last kinda serious post in a Jeep thread. View Quote Don’t stop now. I was just about to start the 4Runner owners thread but this one just keeps on giving |
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Quoted: Don’t stop now. I was just about to start the 4Runner owners thread but this one just keeps on giving View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Pretty much this. I’ve found a front antirock certainly “feels” better and more stable, but it could be placebo. I’ve not know anyone to run both and prefer disconnects to an antirock. ETA: This is my last kinda serious post in a Jeep thread. Don’t stop now. I was just about to start the 4Runner owners thread but this one just keeps on giving Not enough chicks on this site to support a 4Runner thread. |
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Quoted: They stole that from a wrangler aftermarket Vector mount. Im going to install it on mine with a trail map app that shows where Starbucks is. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33050/jlu_ram_mount_png-1503656.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: this feature is supreme tits. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/164007/Screen_Shot_2020-07-14_at_1_38_39_PM-1503637.png They stole that from a wrangler aftermarket Vector mount. Im going to install it on mine with a trail map app that shows where Starbucks is. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33050/jlu_ram_mount_png-1503656.JPG my point is that they dialed into the market. This is a big win for those who run maps like Gaia or similar. I'd prefer not to have to drill into the dash (T4R world I live in). |
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Quoted: this feature is supreme tits. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/164007/Screen_Shot_2020-07-14_at_1_38_39_PM-1503637.png View Quote That is slick, but I don't like those mounts in a wreck. |
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Quoted: They stole that from a wrangler aftermarket Vector mount. Im going to install it on mine with a trail map app that shows where Starbucks is. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/33050/jlu_ram_mount_png-1503656.JPG View Quote The factor 67 mounts seem like they would be more secure. |
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