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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:05:35 PM EDT
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I have lynx in my AO. I have seen a Bobcat, 1600' from my home, and a ML 3500' from my home.
All distances are guess's , but I walk the path at least once a week. and are close The West Nile Skeeters are bad now, so I walk around Brooks Lake. The wind keeps the state bird down |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:07:17 PM EDT
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Mountain lions can take down a bull elk. So, I'm going to guess yes. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Mountain lion isn't gonna take on a horse..............is it? |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:09:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The West Nile Skeeters are bad now, so I walk around Brooks Lake. The wind keeps the state bird down I contracted Tickbite Fever in Africa and West Nile here and I'd have to flip a coin to say which was worse. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:12:20 PM EDT
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Does KY fish and game acknowledge the existence of mountain lion/cougars/pumas/whatever you want to call them? Because VA Dept of Game and Fisheries does not, despite evidence of their existence. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:17:54 PM EDT
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What? Y'all never had a barn cat that was just a mass murdering SOB? Cats kill for sport, it's not just a people thing. I've had dogs that were just hell on woodchucks, tag team style. The big cat rumors persist in north PA and southern tier NY. Fleeting trail cam shots now and then. The bears are back for sure, they get swacked on the roads pretty regularly. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If a predatory ( healthy ) cat such as a Cougar/Mt. Lion, why would it go all out on 3 horses and 2 dogs in one night, makes no sense to me considering their instincts to prey, kill and eat one animal at a time. My guess its a rabid cat or bear.  The big cat rumors persist in north PA and southern tier NY. Fleeting trail cam shots now and then. The bears are back for sure, they get swacked on the roads pretty regularly. They've even brought him a couple hamsters from somewhere in the neighborhood. They've moved up to rabbits, now. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:23:21 PM EDT
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Does KY fish and game acknowledge the existence of mountain lion/cougars/pumas/whatever you want to call them? Because VA Dept of Game and Fisheries does not, despite evidence of their existence. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:24:58 PM EDT
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Ohio maintains that there are no mountain lions. Yet, about 5 miles from me, State highway patrol chased one down the highway. They later clarified their statement that it was a bobcat... Yeah, I'm sorry. You don't get a mountain lion and bobcat confused. 
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:32:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:34:59 PM EDT
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Sorry about that, I think my phone went
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:37:26 PM EDT
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They’ve been in TN for years. TWRA only acknowledged this in 2015, yet they still say they were only passing through and that there are no breeding populations here.
https://www.tn.gov/twra/wildlife/mammals/large/cougars.html |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:38:18 PM EDT
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Does KY fish and game acknowledge the existence of mountain lion/cougars/pumas/whatever you want to call them? Because VA Dept of Game and Fisheries does not, despite evidence of their existence. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:41:39 PM EDT
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Something is hunting and killing things for fun and it ain't no mountain lion.
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:43:57 PM EDT
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"According to Kentucky Fish and Wildlife, the animals' wounds are inconsistent with a large predator attack. They say they do not have conclusive answers as to what caused the attack at this time."
Ha ha. http://www.wbko.com/content/news/Three-horses-and-dog-attacked-and-killed-by-animal-492304201.html |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:48:28 PM EDT
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They've been in TN for years. TWRA only acknowledged this in 2015, yet they still say they were only passing through and that there are no breeding populations here. https://www.tn.gov/twra/wildlife/mammals/large/cougars.html I often camp in the woods in my Cougar Taco (hammock)  . The only thing out there that makes me nervous is Mountain Lions.
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:56:20 PM EDT
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They were miniature horses.
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:56:42 PM EDT
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"According to Kentucky Fish and Wildlife, the animals' wounds are inconsistent with a large predator attack. They say they do not have conclusive answers as to what caused the attack at this time." Ha ha. http://www.wbko.com/content/news/Three-horses-and-dog-attacked-and-killed-by-animal-492304201.html |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:57:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cats are pretty fragile and you don’t need a lot of penetration to hit their vitals. A 9mm is perfectly adequate to take one down. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:58:43 PM EDT
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They would already know if it was a big cat , the prints would be all over that muddy ground. For some strange reason they don't want to say what they found. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"According to Kentucky Fish and Wildlife, the animals' wounds are inconsistent with a large predator attack. They say they do not have conclusive answers as to what caused the attack at this time." Ha ha. http://www.wbko.com/content/news/Three-horses-and-dog-attacked-and-killed-by-animal-492304201.html |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 1:59:00 PM EDT
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Also throat tore out , that's not a cat attack
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:01:12 PM EDT
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Bigfoot or werewolf. No doubt.
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:01:23 PM EDT
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Also throat tore out , that's not a cat attack |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:01:44 PM EDT
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Bigfoot or werewolf. No doubt. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:02:58 PM EDT
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Also throat tore out , that's not a cat attack |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:03:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. KY says they're not really there. PA did/does the same. In a PA hunters safety class in about 1994 somebody asked about lions. The Game cop said they didn't exist in PA. The volunteer instructor said that the PGC had to say that because, since Eastern Lions at the time were considered endangered (they were declared extinct not long ago) the PGC would have to spend a shitload of money on habitat work and protection and all that and they didn't want to. The PGC cop said nothing in response to this. PGC always said that any cougars found were "escaped pets", because that's a thing apparently. People started pointing to DNA analysis saying the cats were all from the West. Except (1) cats are going to spread East as their population grows and (2) one of the reasons the Eastern Lion got delisted was because they determined via DNA that all North American lions are the same species. So they're here. Or they will be. I'm looking forward to it, personally. Too many deer, too many liberals hiking. Speculation is the fish and game guys might have had a hand in re-introduceing them and are in CYA mode |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:05:05 PM EDT
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Bigfoot or werewolf. No doubt. 
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:05:36 PM EDT
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Had one kill a horse near me (yes, in central CT suburbia ) and the fish and game guys claimed it was a bobcat despite huge tracks all near the dead horse. Speculation is the fish and game guys might have had a hand in re-introduceing them and are in CYA mode Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Nope. KY says they're not really there. PA did/does the same. In a PA hunters safety class in about 1994 somebody asked about lions. The Game cop said they didn't exist in PA. The volunteer instructor said that the PGC had to say that because, since Eastern Lions at the time were considered endangered (they were declared extinct not long ago) the PGC would have to spend a shitload of money on habitat work and protection and all that and they didn't want to. The PGC cop said nothing in response to this. PGC always said that any cougars found were "escaped pets", because that's a thing apparently. People started pointing to DNA analysis saying the cats were all from the West. Except (1) cats are going to spread East as their population grows and (2) one of the reasons the Eastern Lion got delisted was because they determined via DNA that all North American lions are the same species. So they're here. Or they will be. I'm looking forward to it, personally. Too many deer, too many liberals hiking. Speculation is the fish and game guys might have had a hand in re-introduceing them and are in CYA mode |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:06:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lions definitely go for throats... They won't get under something like that , they will kill it from the back of the neck |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:06:39 PM EDT
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If a predatory ( healthy ) cat such as a Cougar/Mt. Lion, why would it go all out on 3 horses and 2 dogs in one night, makes no sense to me considering their instincts to prey, kill and eat one animal at a time. My guess its a rabid cat or bear. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:07:51 PM EDT
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Not on a horse they won't. They won't get under something like that , they will kill it from the back of the neck Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Lions definitely go for throats... They won't get under something like that , they will kill it from the back of the neck Multiple reports of lions killing horses via their throat and ripping it's throat out. Also videos of lions ripping elk and deer throat out. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:10:57 PM EDT
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KY used to have a 'coyote control officer' employed by the state because of coyote-related injuries to race horses and horses on horse farms. Don't know if they still do now, but it used to be a sufficient enough problem that the state employed a person to deal with the culprits. The 'coyote control officer' was based in Frankfort.
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:11:35 PM EDT
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North American cats aren't like the African variety that need over penetration and stomping their guts out velocity.
But there is no such thing as overkill. 338 Lapua, 375 ouch and ouch, 45-70... |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:14:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Stupid is as stupid does I guess. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:14:31 PM EDT
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Mountain lion isn't gonna take on a horse..............is it? and wasn't seen for about 2 weeks. When he finally limped home he had cat tracks all over his back. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:15:36 PM EDT
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It was probably the pitbull which later died from its injuries.
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:16:58 PM EDT
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Bigfoot or werewolf. No doubt. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:18:48 PM EDT
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Mountain lion isn't gonna take on a horse..............is it? His grandfather shot the cougar with a .45 Long Colt and the cat turned on him. Another shot right in the cat's chest killed it. My buddy said he always thought that was a tall tale until he was given all the grandfather's memorabilia after his death. One of the items he got was a sheepskin jacket that was bloody and had shredded by a big cat's claws. From then on he fully believed the story. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:20:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Google mountain lion goes for throat. Multiple reports of lions killing horses via their throat and ripping it's throat out. Also videos of lions ripping elk and deer throat out. If you can find footage where a mountain lion takes a elk from going under it and going for it's throat I would like to see it. They will drag them by the throat or make a killing bite on it after it's down but they won't start the attack on the throat. Cats won't go under a big animal like that and face injury , they don't have to. They are killing machines from the top . |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:25:02 PM EDT
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Something is hunting and killing things for fun and it ain't no mountain lion. A semi domesticated big cat will for the sake of killing just like a domesticated cat will hunt and kill small prey, birds, mice etc... just to kill it. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:25:36 PM EDT
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A large cat killed five animals...including three horses Why? Just for practice. Forest credit? But there are also stories out there about big cats killing just to kill. Recall the recent story about the cat that got loose in the zoo and went around killing a bunch of other display animals just to kill them. Blood Lust. Big cats got it. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:26:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wendigo 3 horses and 2 dogs, it went into the stable to kill the 2nd horse |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:26:07 PM EDT
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This story has a squatchy feel to it. Did they find any half rotted llama skulls nearby?
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:35:12 PM EDT
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What? Y'all never had a barn cat that was just a mass murdering SOB? Cats kill for sport, it's not just a people thing. I've had dogs that were just hell on woodchucks, tag team style. The big cat rumors persist in north PA and southern tier NY. Fleeting trail cam shots now and then. The bears are back for sure, they get swacked on the roads pretty regularly. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:36:44 PM EDT
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This story has a squatchy feel to it. Did they find any half rotted llama skulls nearby?
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:37:18 PM EDT
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12 Ga should work fine. 00 buck or slugs. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:42:02 PM EDT
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Mountain lion isn't gonna take on a horse..............is it? |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:46:16 PM EDT
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Looked it up so I might as well post it. Confirmed sightings, tracks, dna, etc from the Cougar Network. Obviously not definitive but still interesting.
They have a more recent interactive map on their site. cougarnet.org/confirmations 
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:47:33 PM EDT
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Put empty boxes all around the field. 
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:55:09 PM EDT
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I believe this is correct. The problem isn't about having the power to kill them , the problem is being fast enough to land bullets on them before they get to you Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Cats are pretty fragile and you don’t need a lot of penetration to hit their vitals. A 9mm is perfectly adequate to take one down. I always scan the trees as I walk through the woods. |
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:56:50 PM EDT
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Looked it up so I might as well post it. Confirmed sightings, tracks, dna, etc from the Cougar Network. Obviously not definitive but still interesting. They have a more recent interactive map on their site. cougarnet.org/confirmations https://i.imgur.com/SEUHVBJh.jpg
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Posted: 9/3/2018 2:57:06 PM EDT
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Odds are it's a mountain lion with a possibility that it's an escaped exotic cat although it'd probably be easy to tell the difference in wounds and tracks if it's an african lion or tiger.
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