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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:52:17 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: An establishment speaker will never permit any real investigation of the swamp as it will expose them. There will never be any real accountability for the endless crimes committed by the swamp if an establishment member is speaker. You will only get words and demands for cash from McCarthy and his ilk. Poeple forget Romney's son has ties to HUnter's business dealings through Rosemont Seneca. https://centipedenation.com/first-column/throwback-biden-pelosi-kerry-and-romney-ukraine-corrupt-dealings/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It is not a win for America if we don’t elect a Speaker. Once we have a Speaker, we can start hearings on the Biden family and Mr. 10%. The Democrats spent two years holding hearings to destroy Trump. There is some pretty strong evidence tgat Biden and his fa,ily have violated federal laws. Congress should be investigating this ASAP. The last thing we need is six years of an unchecked Biden administration. An establishment speaker will never permit any real investigation of the swamp as it will expose them. There will never be any real accountability for the endless crimes committed by the swamp if an establishment member is speaker. You will only get words and demands for cash from McCarthy and his ilk. Poeple forget Romney's son has ties to HUnter's business dealings through Rosemont Seneca. https://centipedenation.com/first-column/throwback-biden-pelosi-kerry-and-romney-ukraine-corrupt-dealings/ I would argue that Romney is no longer a Republican. In fact, I am not sure he ever was. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:52:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It is not a win for America if we don’t elect a Speaker. Once we have a Speaker, we can start hearings on the Biden family and Mr. 10%. The Democrats spent two years holding hearings to destroy Trump. There is some pretty strong evidence tgat Biden and his fa,ily have violated federal laws. Congress should be investigating this ASAP. The last thing we need is six years of an unchecked Biden administration. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: It’s a win for America that they can’t seat a speaker. It is not a win for America if we don’t elect a Speaker. Once we have a Speaker, we can start hearings on the Biden family and Mr. 10%. The Democrats spent two years holding hearings to destroy Trump. There is some pretty strong evidence tgat Biden and his fa,ily have violated federal laws. Congress should be investigating this ASAP. The last thing we need is six years of an unchecked Biden administration. You think Kevin McCarthy or any of the other useless swamp "R's" are going to move forward with hearings on Biden!? Ahahahahahahaha!!!! Ahahahahaha!!!  Fucking R's are just about as corrupt. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:53:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That would be interesting. McCarthy gives deal to (D)'s to push him over the edge since they won't win anyway. That could create some drama. McCarty works with (D)s to defeat Jordan headline. What kind of a Republican would endorse McCarthy anyway?
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:53:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump endorsed McCarthy, MAGA is fully backing the Swamp. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I believe the democrats cant do that and maintain the illusion of the GOP establishment being a viable counter party. If the Dems cross over it will clearly highlight the establishment protecting itself and can be used to people waking up to how both sides work together to fuck us. Today was a disaster for the GOP establishment, and the overall establishment in general. They dont have many good moves left without either making major concessions to MAGA, or pulling the mask off and identifying themselves as enemy from within. Trump won in 2016 on essentially the Tea Party platform, rebranded as MAGA. MAGA is not "fully backing the swamp", because MAGA does not belong to Trump. MAGA is a populist movement of The People. Trump is throwing one of his patented "wtf is he thinking" curveballs. Just like "take the guns first" and the bumpstock thing. There are a number of reasons Trump might endorse McCarthy, others have done a good job pointing out some of them. Just my opinion. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:54:29 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would argue that Romney is no longer a Republican. In fact, I am not sure he ever was. Here's a clue.. NONE of them care about turning the ship around. It's all voting for their best interests in lining their pockets. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:54:32 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think Kevin McCarthy or any of the other useless swamp "R's" are going to move forward with hearings on Biden!? Ahahahahahahaha!!!! Ahahahahaha!!! Fucking R's are just about as corrupt. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It’s a win for America that they can’t seat a speaker. It is not a win for America if we don’t elect a Speaker. Once we have a Speaker, we can start hearings on the Biden family and Mr. 10%. The Democrats spent two years holding hearings to destroy Trump. There is some pretty strong evidence tgat Biden and his fa,ily have violated federal laws. Congress should be investigating this ASAP. The last thing we need is six years of an unchecked Biden administration. You think Kevin McCarthy or any of the other useless swamp "R's" are going to move forward with hearings on Biden!? Ahahahahahahaha!!!! Ahahahahaha!!! Fucking R's are just about as corrupt. I guess we should hope they elect Pelosi. She knew how to f with Trump. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:55:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That would be interesting. McCarthy gives deal to (D)'s to push him over the edge since they won't win anyway. That could create some drama. McCarty works with (D)s to defeat Jordan headline. What kind of a Republican would endorse McCarthy anyway?
Trump is just proving he only attaches his name to someone he thinks will win. 
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:56:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Here's a clue.. NONE of them care about turning the ship around. It's all voting for their best interests in lining their pockets. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I would argue that Romney is no longer a Republican. In fact, I am not sure he ever was. Here's a clue.. NONE of them care about turning the ship around. It's all voting for their best interests in lining their pockets. I guess we should all just stay home or maybe vote for the Democrats because they are all the same. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:56:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @D_J With this being adjourned until noon tomorrow do you think it would be beneficial to contact our other reps and let them know that McCarthy can FRO or do you think they would even see it before going back in? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Adjourned until tomorrow. We'll see if there is any deals made tonight. With this being adjourned until noon tomorrow do you think it would be beneficial to contact our other reps and let them know that McCarthy can FRO or do you think they would even see it before going back in? @knothead71 I know it can’t hurt. I’m not sure if they do FB, but I’m sure everyone of them has a Twitter account. Letting them know they have the backing of their voters costs us nothing and might move the needle a tiny bit towards limiting McCarthy’s power. I don’t hold out hope they’ll be able to elect someone else, but letting him in without concessions would be a huge loss. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:58:37 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's almost guaranteed they will fuck it up, it's what they do best. Have you considered they don’t want control because they know the investigations would expose their corruption. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:58:48 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They don't have to cross the aisle. Nothing can be done until a speaker is elected. How many independent voters will vote Republican when we cannot elect a Speaker. We will be one a party country with the same party controlling both Chicago and the US government. Guess which party that would be? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? You have to pick someone who can be elected and is not a Democrat. That is right, you cannot vote for Pelosi. It would be nice if it was someone who wants the job. Do any of you realize how bad this makes the Republicans look? To put it another way, do you want another two years of total Democratic dictatorship because that is what we will get. If the Republicans can't come together on him when he is the only one who wants the job who could possibly win explains why nothing can get done. The democrats don't have a problem voting as a block but we haven't learned to look at the big picture. You need to present a united front when dealing with the opposition. Any differences within the party should be resolved in private. If we can't learn this lesson now, we are doomed to failure of our own making. I'll take any number of members of the house that have been demanding accountability. I dont care how this makes the Republican party as a whole look. This is the civil war within the GOP coming to a head. Pro freedom needs to win or we continue down the road the GOP establishment has lead us for decades. If the GOP establishment wants to cross the isle and vote in a democrat as speaker I'm good with it. It marks them clearly as enemy and makes it easier for us to remove them. Without rooting these people out of the GOP nothing will ever change, they will block it or leave things easily reversed by the next political swing. They don't have to cross the aisle. Nothing can be done until a speaker is elected. How many independent voters will vote Republican when we cannot elect a Speaker. We will be one a party country with the same party controlling both Chicago and the US government. Guess which party that would be? My choice? I'd like Jordan. That won't happen, so I'd take Scalise. If there is to be a compromise candidate, Scalise will be it. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:59:02 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I called mine to tell him to switch to Jordan. Calls get answered by a live person, emails can be ignored. Made me feel better anyway. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: @D_J With this being adjourned until noon tomorrow do you think it would be beneficial to contact our other reps and let them know that McCarthy can FRO or do you think they would even see it before going back in? I called mine to tell him to switch to Jordan. Calls get answered by a live person, emails can be ignored. Made me feel better anyway. Calls are best if you can get to a live person. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:59:31 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I guess we should all just stay home or maybe vote for the Democrats because they are all the same. I agree. Keep voting. Its working awesome.  |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 8:59:46 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That sounds like a great plan, Do you plan on celebrating your victory with a nice hemlock toast.  ETA In case anyone doesn’t know it, Hemlock is a deadly poison. I would not suggest drinking it. It’s better than voting for someone who lies to me. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:03:33 PM EDT
[#15]
Most Republicans on Capitol Hill are Democrats.
No Democrats on Capitol Hill are Republicans. Democrats, and RINOs, are the cause of all of the problems. People towing "the party line" are blind, complicit or both. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:05:19 PM EDT
[#16]
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That would be interesting. McCarthy gives deal to (D)'s to push him over the edge since they won't win anyway. That could create some drama. McCarty works with (D)s to defeat Jordan headline. What kind of a Republican would endorse McCarthy anyway?
Recently, after he heard there was opposition? How principled... |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:06:46 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Pumping your enemy for information isn't working across the aisle. It is gathering intelligence. That reminded me of this [youtube]Ssw8Hmgyuxc?t=203[/youtube] |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:08:21 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My first suggestion would be to tell us who your rep is becuase that might help determine possible solutions.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My rep was just sworn in this morning and I'm not having any luck finding contact info for him online. Any suggestions? My first suggestion would be to tell us who your rep is becuase that might help determine possible solutions. That would be Alabama 5th Congressional district Representative Dale Strong. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:08:32 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It's better than voting for someone who lies to me. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That sounds like a great plan, Do you plan on celebrating your victory with a nice hemlock toast. ETA In case anyone doesn't know it, Hemlock is a deadly poison. I would not suggest drinking it. It's better than voting for someone who lies to me.  ...
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:09:20 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Recently, after he heard there was opposition? How principled... mccarthy shouldn't be surprised. trump is just treating him like the 2A |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:09:43 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Recently, after he heard there was opposition? How principled... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That would be interesting. McCarthy gives deal to (D)'s to push him over the edge since they won't win anyway. That could create some drama. McCarty works with (D)s to defeat Jordan headline. What kind of a Republican would endorse McCarthy anyway?
Recently, after he heard there was opposition? How principled... 
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:11:43 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would argue that Romney is no longer a Republican. In fact, I am not sure he ever was. He was and is a RINO. He doesn't need to switch parties, He enjoys the role of Party Crasher. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:13:08 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump is just proving he only attaches his name to someone he thinks will win. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That would be interesting. McCarthy gives deal to (D)'s to push him over the edge since they won't win anyway. That could create some drama. McCarty works with (D)s to defeat Jordan headline. What kind of a Republican would endorse McCarthy anyway?
Trump is just proving he only attaches his name to someone he thinks will win. 
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:13:57 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: McCarthy should step back and endorse Jordan. This here. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:15:05 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You think Kevin McCarthy or any of the other useless swamp "R's" are going to move forward with hearings on Biden!? Ahahahahahahaha!!!! Ahahahahaha!!! Fucking R's are just about as corrupt. Been telling people neither side has any good attributes anymore..And none care for any of us..Only themselves..Not that hard to figure that out if you just observe a little..And stop being blindly lead by either evil side.. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:15:50 PM EDT
[#26]
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Trump will support whichever way the wind blows. He has a lot of debts being called in. He wants to do another 4, so he has to let it play out. Now is not the time to piss off the party. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:17:11 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: McCarthy should step back and endorse Jordan. Won't, Establishment only supports Establishment. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:18:09 PM EDT
[#28]
I say give the speakership to the congressman who has been in congress the longest with the least net wealth.
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:21:44 PM EDT
[#29]
20 votes for Jordan on the 4th round.
Biggs Republican Arizona Bishop (NC) Republican North Carolina Boebert Republican Colorado Brecheen Republican Oklahoma Cloud Republican Texas Clyde Republican Georgia Crane Republican Arizona Donalds Republican Florida Gaetz Republican Florida Good (VA) Republican Virginia Gosar Republican Arizona Harris Republican Maryland Luna Republican Florida Miller (IL) Republican Illinois Norman Republican South Carolina Ogles Republican Tennessee Perry Republican Pennsylvania Rosendale Republican Montana Roy Republican Texas Self Republican Texas My Rep is Wagner from MO-2. I've tweeted, emailed, and called. Not likely to do much good, I suspect she's entrenched in the establishment. She's a veteran representative, but my district is newly drawn. Will have to see. If your Rep is not in the above list, what are you doing about it? |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:22:44 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As I understand it, neither one of them wants the job. Am I wrong? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: For all of you complaining about McCarthy, who do you want to be the Speaker? You have to pick someone who can be elected and is not a Democrat. That is right, you cannot vote for Pelosi. It would be nice if it was someone who wants the job. Do any of you realize how bad this makes the Republicans look? To put it another way, do you want another two years of total Democratic dictatorship because that is what we will get. If the Republicans can’t come together on him when he is the only one who wants the job who could possibly win explains why nothing can get done. The democrats don’t have a problem voting as a block but we haven’t learned to look at the big picture. You need to present a united front when dealing with the opposition. Any differences within the party should be resolved in private. If we can’t learn this lesson now, we are doomed to failure of our own making. The problem is nothing will get done with McCarthy as speaker either. He will likely be another John Boehner or Paul Ryan. All that will happen with them is they will block the most radical stuff from being passed by the democrats. Which is important but with the GOP holding the majority of seats that seems likely to be the case regardless who gets the speakership. I'd prefer Jordan or Scalise. As I understand it, neither one of them wants the job. Am I wrong? I am not sure about that. I bet they'd take it if elected. If not someone better then McCarthy would. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:26:44 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Great commentary from Wade Miller (great staffer/lobbyist). This is a fight against the political establishment that screws gun owners in these omnibus bills and other bipartisan piece of trash they push. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122381/Screenshot_20230103_183008_jpg-2659543.JPG And here is Rep. Byron Donaldson of Florida. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122381/Screenshot_20230103_182924_jpg-2659549.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122381/Screenshot_20230103_182938_jpg-2659550.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/122381/Screenshot_20230103_182950_jpg-2659551.JPG He switch his vote to Jordan on the third go around. It appears he is now standing for principle over party and will not support McCarthy. Florida reps are on the mark on this issue. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:26:45 PM EDT
[#32]
This is great. Conservatives held their ground, and everyone has been able to identify the conservatives that sold out. The people saying that both parties are the same will be further vindicated if there's some kind of coalition agreement between Democrats and Republicans. Without a speaker, Republicans won't be able to hold useless hearings about Hunter Biden's laptop and distract from the border crisis and everything else. Republican leadership is going to have to compromise with the base or be humiliated.
The slim Republican majority is completely ungovernable (worse than what Boehner had in 2013), so I hope that the votes keep failing and this goes on for at least several weeks. Who knows though, maybe it will end tomorrow. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:29:49 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would argue that Romney is no longer a Republican. In fact, I am not sure he ever was. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: It is not a win for America if we don’t elect a Speaker. Once we have a Speaker, we can start hearings on the Biden family and Mr. 10%. The Democrats spent two years holding hearings to destroy Trump. There is some pretty strong evidence tgat Biden and his fa,ily have violated federal laws. Congress should be investigating this ASAP. The last thing we need is six years of an unchecked Biden administration. An establishment speaker will never permit any real investigation of the swamp as it will expose them. There will never be any real accountability for the endless crimes committed by the swamp if an establishment member is speaker. You will only get words and demands for cash from McCarthy and his ilk. Poeple forget Romney's son has ties to HUnter's business dealings through Rosemont Seneca. https://centipedenation.com/first-column/throwback-biden-pelosi-kerry-and-romney-ukraine-corrupt-dealings/ I would argue that Romney is no longer a Republican. In fact, I am not sure he ever was. Actually Romney is a Republican. It's what we thought Republicans were that needs to change. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:29:50 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 20 votes for Jordan on the 4th round. Biggs Republican Arizona Bishop (NC) Republican North Carolina Boebert Republican Colorado Brecheen Republican Oklahoma Cloud Republican Texas Clyde Republican Georgia Crane Republican Arizona Donalds Republican Florida Gaetz Republican Florida Good (VA) Republican Virginia Gosar Republican Arizona Harris Republican Maryland Luna Republican Florida Miller (IL) Republican Illinois Norman Republican South Carolina Ogles Republican Tennessee Perry Republican Pennsylvania Rosendale Republican Montana Roy Republican Texas Self Republican Texas My Rep is Wagner from MO-2. I've tweeted, emailed, and called. Not likely to do much good, I suspect she's entrenched in the establishment. She's a veteran representative, but my district is newly drawn. Will have to see. If your Rep is not in the above list, what are you doing about it? Mine is on the list. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:36:12 PM EDT
[#35]
I recommend KM keeps making empty threats to Congress Critters, and issuing paper thin bluffs that are easily dispelled.
Hey, isn't threatening a member of Congress a felony? |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:37:14 PM EDT
[#36]
I didn't read the entire thread but has anyone mentioned that the next speaker of the house could very potentially end up POTUS if FJB keels over and the Whore gets "removed" for "reasons"?
I wonder if this has something to do with the hold outs that won't fall in with the party line .... things that make you go hmmm |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:39:00 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I didn't read the entire thread but has anyone mentioned that the next speaker of the house could very potentially end up POTUS if FJB keels over and the Whore gets "removed" for "reasons"? I wonder if this has something to do with the hold outs that won't fall in with the party line .... things that make you go hmmm That whole Establishment thing again. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:42:50 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually Romney is a Republican. It's what we thought Republicans were that needs to change. Republicans have been ideologically across the board since the Antebellum years. They've spanned from well to the Left to the far Right. That has not changed. The GOP has always been heterogenous. The Democrats over the years have swung back and forth between ideological diversity and homogeneity as well as from the Right to the Left in terms of where their center lies. Right now they are trending closer to homogeneity. Republicans like Romney have been influential in the GOP for the entire post-war era. The conservative movement managed to push things back to the Right, along with the conversion of Southern Democrats on the Right to Republicans, but the center of the party has only been more than just barely Right-of-Center for fleeting moments. Even Trump's movement is an amalgamation of groups from the Left and Right (as well as groups that themselves draw their ideology from both sides of the spectrum, like the national populists, who have a lot in common with the Left). The neoconservative movement's victory at the end of the 1990s is what has given us the present establishment and kept our party close to the Center. We are still dealing with the legacy of their victory, which culminated in the election of Bush. One of the movement's founders, Kristol, even said that the goal of the movement was to convert conservatism and the GOP against their collective wills into something more suitable for progressive governance (which is why some of their major figureheads, like Max Boot, so easily switched to the Democrats in the wake of Trump winning the nomination in 2016). |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:44:00 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine is on the list. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 20 votes for Jordan on the 4th round. Biggs Republican Arizona Bishop (NC) Republican North Carolina Boebert Republican Colorado Brecheen Republican Oklahoma Cloud Republican Texas Clyde Republican Georgia Crane Republican Arizona Donalds Republican Florida Gaetz Republican Florida Good (VA) Republican Virginia Gosar Republican Arizona Harris Republican Maryland Luna Republican Florida Miller (IL) Republican Illinois Norman Republican South Carolina Ogles Republican Tennessee Perry Republican Pennsylvania Rosendale Republican Montana Roy Republican Texas Self Republican Texas My Rep is Wagner from MO-2. I've tweeted, emailed, and called. Not likely to do much good, I suspect she's entrenched in the establishment. She's a veteran representative, but my district is newly drawn. Will have to see. If your Rep is not in the above list, what are you doing about it? Mine is on the list. Mine is a democrat who scissors with Merkowski. There is a moaning sound that occasionally comes over the mountains that people thought were Yeti’s eating a moose, but we know better. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 9:58:02 PM EDT
[#40]
I emailed my Congressman (Cline) for Jordan. McCarthy will get nothing done, he'll be another Ryan and just block the most radical stuff.
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Posted: 1/3/2023 10:00:55 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Keep an eye out for him... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well it's Dan Crenshaw, sooo... Keep an eye out for him... Eye see what you did there. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 10:01:19 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Remember when Trump was elected and Republicans controlled 3 branches of govt and got nothing accomplished? Thank Rinos. Thank the establishment. Thank the Swamp. IF McCarthy gets the job it'll just be more of the same controlled opposition and we will all get McFucked over on issues that matter while insane sums of tax dollars are just pissed away. I for one am tired of being McFucked by people who claim to be on my team. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 10:02:26 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump has a known history of throwing wild curveballs. This is one of them. It is very possible that Trump's internal polling may have flipped him, and now he wants to play nice with the RINO majority. My overall point still stands. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is a perfect microcosm of why the Republicans hate Trump. Those handful of Reps who voted for Jordan know that McCarthy is a swamp creature and refuse to go along with a party that sells us out to the Leftist agenda at every turn for 30 shekels every time. Trump was exactly the same thing to them. Going back to the Obama years.........so was the Tea Party. Every time the national government takes a collective corrupt turn to the Left, an empowered and principled right wing sect comes to power among the grass roots Republicans in response. Every time that small contingent of principled right wingers raise their heads and their hands, the Judases of the GOP work with the Democrats to crush them. And every time, the establishment has to get more and more openly blatant in their cheating to win subsequent elections. Something has to give because while you can crush the electorate, you can't crush their desire for freedom, fairness, and self determination. It's going to boil down to all those Fed LE folks who swore an allegiance to the Constitution. Do they finally start cracking down on the cheating corrupt politicians, or the right wing grassroots citizenry and the Reps they occasionally manage to get put into office? Trump has a known history of throwing wild curveballs. This is one of them. It is very possible that Trump's internal polling may have flipped him, and now he wants to play nice with the RINO majority. My overall point still stands. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 10:05:57 PM EDT
[#44]
MTG for Speaker of the House ... and tomorrow all the Marxist Bullshit in the House of Representatives comes to a screeching halt.
McCarthy = 
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Posted: 1/3/2023 10:07:45 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Over the years I've gotten the impression that he'd rather be seen as endorsing someone that appears likely to win rather than a better person that is likely to lose. It's one of the flaws of the human ego. ETA I'd bet the house that his endorsement has nothing to do with any love for McCarthy, it's more about him being seen as picking a winner. That and McCarthy probably blew a bunch of smoke up Trump's ass about what he would or wouldn't do as speaker. Very much agree. Trumps biggest flaw. He will not support an underdog. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 10:09:37 PM EDT
[#46]
Hannity is on full offense for McCarthy. I guess Paul Ryan has sent the email.
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Posted: 1/3/2023 10:11:40 PM EDT
[#47]
The next speaker of the house being installed ....
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Posted: 1/3/2023 10:14:58 PM EDT
[#48]
Swamp will get their man. By that I mean ANYONE that is selected will be swamp in short order
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Posted: 1/3/2023 10:23:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Actually Romney is a Republican. It's what we thought Republicans were that needs to change. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It is not a win for America if we don't elect a Speaker. Once we have a Speaker, we can start hearings on the Biden family and Mr. 10%. The Democrats spent two years holding hearings to destroy Trump. There is some pretty strong evidence tgat Biden and his fa,ily have violated federal laws. Congress should be investigating this ASAP. The last thing we need is six years of an unchecked Biden administration. An establishment speaker will never permit any real investigation of the swamp as it will expose them. There will never be any real accountability for the endless crimes committed by the swamp if an establishment member is speaker. You will only get words and demands for cash from McCarthy and his ilk. Poeple forget Romney's son has ties to HUnter's business dealings through Rosemont Seneca. https://centipedenation.com/first-column/throwback-biden-pelosi-kerry-and-romney-ukraine-corrupt-dealings/ I would argue that Romney is no longer a Republican. In fact, I am not sure he ever was. Actually Romney is a Republican. It's what we thought Republicans were that needs to change. We need a real 3rd Party. |
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Posted: 1/3/2023 10:25:27 PM EDT
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