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Link Posted: 1/23/2023 8:02:11 PM EST
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That’s actually the imperial city
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@madcap3k I love sewer ganking.
Link Posted: 1/23/2023 9:02:10 PM EST
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Thanks for posting.

I love world mysteries.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:44:07 AM EST
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I'll have to watch it later and see what I think.

Pellegrino made a great case for Thera in [i]Unearthing Atlantis[/] so that's the standard I'm going to judge this by.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:47:57 AM EST
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Plato claimed it was beyond the Pillars of Hercules, but didn’t say where it was…….. that’s a plausible theory, but I’d still think it is somewhere in the depths of the Atlantic
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There is a location in Spain that seemed pretty promising.  It was outside of the Med near the coast.  IIRC, there were indications of structures corresponding somewhat to the description along with a very large pool of methane which could have been produced by decomposition of buried organisms (presumably including people).  I think the people who discovered the site were trying to raise money or get permits for excavation or something.  Who knows how true their claims were or if they were ever able to get any kind of dig or further examination accomplished?

Of course, Plato's account might well be meant to be treated more as a parable than as something literally true.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:49:27 AM EST
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Of course, Plato's account might well be meant to be treated more as a parable than as something literally true.
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Or myth. There is a civilization right there that was destroyed by earthquakes and tsunamis.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:53:08 AM EST
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There is a location in Spain that seemed pretty promising.  It was outside of the Med near the coast.  IIRC, there were indications of structures corresponding somewhat to the description along with a very large pool of methane which could have been produced by decomposition of buried organisms (presumably including people).  I think the people who discovered the site were trying to raise money or get permits for excavation or something.  Who knows how true their claims were or if they were ever able to get any kind of dig or further examination accomplished?

Of course, Plato's account might well be meant to be treated more as a parable than as something literally true.
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Plato claimed it was beyond the Pillars of Hercules, but didn’t say where it was…….. that’s a plausible theory, but I’d still think it is somewhere in the depths of the Atlantic


There is a location in Spain that seemed pretty promising.  It was outside of the Med near the coast.  IIRC, there were indications of structures corresponding somewhat to the description along with a very large pool of methane which could have been produced by decomposition of buried organisms (presumably including people).  I think the people who discovered the site were trying to raise money or get permits for excavation or something.  Who knows how true their claims were or if they were ever able to get any kind of dig or further examination accomplished?

Of course, Plato's account might well be meant to be treated more as a parable than as something literally true.


True, but many thought Troy was a myth and legend until it was found…….. of course it was on land so it could be dug up……. Finding a sunken city might prove a tad more difficult, especially if it’s in the Atlantic somewhere……

Plato never really said whether the tale of Atlantis was an allegory, but some other sources from the time felt it was true…… it would be cool to find it
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:53:12 AM EST
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In on two. Tagged for later.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 11:14:42 AM EST
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I'm beginning to believe that something super fucky happened around 12k years ago.  Check the striations and flood evidence this guy gives with the flood evidence given by Randall Carlson of the western US.  Combine that with flood myths that live with every culture in every area of the globe.

Randall Carlson | SCABLANDS TOUR - Ice Age Mega Floods


Joe Rogan Experience #606 - Randall Carlson

Link Posted: 1/24/2023 11:18:32 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/24/2023 12:37:25 PM EST
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Olaus Rudbeck determined the location of Atlantis in the 17th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Location_hypotheses_of_Atlantis#Sweden

Link Posted: 1/24/2023 12:41:47 PM EST
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Cool I'm watching STARGATE ATLANTIS right now. I hope the Wraith doesn't find us.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 12:44:13 PM EST
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The only problem I see with that theory: there are a considerable number of very ancient artifacts (hand axes, etc.) that have been dug up within the concentric rings.    Many of those artifacts are in excess of 1 million years old, and date back to some of the earliest tool users that we know about.

So if a huge flood washed through and wiped out the city 12,000 years ago, why would it leave behind only artifacts that are hundreds of thousands (or potentially a million plus) years old?

One could argue that stone age tribesmen frequented the area _after_ the city was wiped out - but in that case, shouldn't those artifacts be newer?
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They could have been buried below the city and when the area was flooded the top layers of soil were eroded exposing the older artifacts below and washing any trace of the inhabitants out to sea or burying any evidence under hundreds of feet of sentiment.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 12:47:47 PM EST
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I just went to Google maps and found it and zoomed in with satellite feature. There is an actual place listed called the Lost Atlantian building-castle
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 12:48:12 PM EST
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I'm beginning to believe that something super fucky happened around 12k years ago.  Check the striations and flood evidence this guy gives with the flood evidence given by Randall Carlson of the western US.  Combine that with flood myths that live with every culture in every area of the globe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kImPL2gfnxk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Cp7DrvNLQ
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It happens often. 6500ish years. Any day now will be our turn
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 2:12:28 PM EST
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If I were to look, it would be in the area of the Gettysburg and Ormonde Seamounts.

They are in the right location outside the Strait of Gibraltar, and at less than 100 ft deep they could be fully exposed during an ice age when ocean levels drop.
Strange that the charts of the area are very incomplete on https://usa.fishermap.org/depth-map/atlantic-ocean/
One would think it's proximity to Europe would make it heavily fished.

Link Posted: 1/24/2023 3:40:44 PM EST
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That was pretty neat.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 3:43:13 PM EST
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Nonsense ! The guy is wrong.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 3:56:37 PM EST
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Well, Donovan did write a song about Atlantis in 1969. So it must be true…
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 3:57:54 PM EST
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If I were to look, it would be in the area of the Gettysburg and Ormonde Seamounts.

They are in the right location outside the Strait of Gibraltar, and at less than 100 ft deep they could be fully exposed during an ice age when ocean levels drop.
Strange that the charts of the area are very incomplete on https://usa.fishermap.org/depth-map/atlantic-ocean/
One would think it's proximity to Europe would make it heavily fished.

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Around the Azores?
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 3:58:57 PM EST
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The real question is, where is Mu ?
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 4:01:45 PM EST
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Tag
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 4:04:11 PM EST
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Henry Jones Jr. and Sophia Hapgood found it years ago.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 5:22:37 PM EST
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Neat!
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 5:42:06 PM EST
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If that was Atlantis, it was clearly smacked by a meteor, look at it on google earth.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:04:59 PM EST
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Cool I'm watching STARGATE ATLANTIS right now. I hope the Wraith doesn't find us.
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I know your destiny, John Sheppard.

Wraith are neverending.

Fuck it. Imma rewatch Vegas right now.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:14:09 PM EST
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I know your destiny, John Sheppard.

Wraith are neverending.

Fuck it. Imma rewatch Vegas right now.
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I know your destiny, John Sheppard.

Wraith are neverending.

Fuck it. Imma rewatch Vegas right now.


I mainly enjoyed Atlantis due to it being part of the larger Stargate franchise, which I love, but it was by itself mediocre.  Vegas, however, was excellent.  Easily the best episode in the series.  It also had a very different tone from just about anything else in the series.  Darker and less campy.  It also wasn't set up to be solved by a deus ex machina.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 9:27:35 PM EST
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If that was Atlantis, it was clearly smacked by a meteor, look at it on google earth.
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Nope. Terrestrial formation, eroded geologic dome.

Jimmy makes a compelling argument but of course all these videos suffer from researcher bias. You are only hearing what he has cherry picked to present to you as his “evidence”.  

HERE is a critical review of the video.

I still think more research should be done regarding the Richat structure and I do believe it remains a viable candidate as the source of the Atlantis legend but it is far from proven.
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 10:44:13 PM EST
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What are the chances that Atlantis was more than a single city, but a far reaching empire?  I think it's really interesting that if someone brought up a world wide disaster resulting in massive flooding when I was a kid they would be laughed at, but now the whole Younger-Dryas thing is being seriously considered.
Trust the science...
Link Posted: 1/24/2023 10:50:48 PM EST
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What are the chances that Atlantis was more than a single city, but a far reaching empire?  I think it's really interesting that if someone brought up a world wide disaster resulting in massive flooding when I was a kid they would be laughed at, but now the whole Younger-Dryas thing is being seriously considered.
Trust the science...
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Where are the mines?
Link Posted: 1/25/2023 12:17:38 AM EST
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Where are the mines?
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What are the chances that Atlantis was more than a single city, but a far reaching empire?  I think it's really interesting that if someone brought up a world wide disaster resulting in massive flooding when I was a kid they would be laughed at, but now the whole Younger-Dryas thing is being seriously considered.
Trust the science...

Where are the mines?



Not following the reference... ?
Link Posted: 1/25/2023 9:11:12 PM EST
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It would be cool to find Atlantis if it existed...............
Link Posted: 1/25/2023 9:29:01 PM EST
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next you'll tell me the phoenicians mined copper from michigan
Link Posted: 1/25/2023 9:30:44 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/26/2023 6:35:33 AM EST
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Not following the reference... ?
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What are the chances that Atlantis was more than a single city, but a far reaching empire?  I think it's really interesting that if someone brought up a world wide disaster resulting in massive flooding when I was a kid they would be laughed at, but now the whole Younger-Dryas thing is being seriously considered.
Trust the science...

Where are the mines?


Not following the reference... ?


Atlantis was supposed to have significant gold.  I suppose the flood buried them.
Link Posted: 1/26/2023 6:40:12 AM EST
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I was hoping this would be a Robert Sepehr vid.
Link Posted: 1/26/2023 6:43:47 AM EST
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It was so obviously the Minoans I don’t know why this is still discussed.
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Were they also the Sea Peoples?
Link Posted: 1/26/2023 6:49:02 AM EST
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All those theories are wrong!

It was a civilization of Bigfeet.
Every thing was fine until one jumped through the wrong portal.
Now they're doomed to wander the earth.



Link Posted: 1/26/2023 2:31:15 PM EST
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It was so obviously the Minoans I don’t know why this is still discussed.


Were they also the Sea Peoples?

There is some thought amongst scholarly folk that they or people related to them were the Philistines of Biblical times……

I’m not really sure I’d completely rule Atlantis being real out yet……finding it may be far more difficult than Troy, but it may have very well existed
Link Posted: 1/26/2023 3:13:19 PM EST
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Well, somebody did
Link Posted: 1/26/2023 3:19:14 PM EST
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I'd like to hear a counter.

Thats pretty convincing.
Link Posted: 1/26/2023 3:20:45 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/26/2023 3:24:14 PM EST
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I've seen a few things on that structure and saw these guys on Rogan last week. Makes for a compelling case in many of the things he points out. I don't get why more research has not been done there and having that research easily available.


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This.

They present a compelling case and there should be a deeper dive into this info.

The gatekeepers don't seem to want the narrative to change though.
Link Posted: 1/26/2023 3:28:24 PM EST
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This.

They present a compelling case and there should be a deeper dive into this info.

The gatekeepers don't seem to want the narrative to change though.
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Really smart people don't even watch, they just know. Trust them. They're really smart.
Link Posted: 1/26/2023 3:29:53 PM EST
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It was a kingdom or something.  They cover this possibility being Atlantis and the Azores… so both can be right. It’s all in the rabbit hole.

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Plato claimed it was beyond the Pillars of Hercules, but didn’t say where it was…….. that’s a plausible theory, but I’d still think it is somewhere in the depths of the Atlantic



It was a kingdom or something.  They cover this possibility being Atlantis and the Azores… so both can be right. It’s all in the rabbit hole.


Beyond the Pillars of Hercules could also mean south of the Pillars of Hercules?
Link Posted: 1/26/2023 3:30:19 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/26/2023 3:35:39 PM EST
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Beyond the Pillars of Hercules could also mean south of the Pillars of Hercules?
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Plato claimed it was beyond the Pillars of Hercules, but didn’t say where it was…….. that’s a plausible theory, but I’d still think it is somewhere in the depths of the Atlantic



It was a kingdom or something.  They cover this possibility being Atlantis and the Azores… so both can be right. It’s all in the rabbit hole.


Beyond the Pillars of Hercules could also mean south of the Pillars of Hercules?


It could also refer to two mountains at the southernmost gulf of Laconia in Greece…… putting it square in the Mediterranean and Thera being a logical  location…….. at least one source I have read asserts that belief
Link Posted: 1/26/2023 3:37:43 PM EST
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Old Roman map bought from a one-eyed Egyptian rug merchant?
Link Posted: 1/26/2023 3:40:48 PM EST
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I'm still bewildered by the disappearance of Aaron Hedges and how we walked barefoot 6 miles as the crow flies in the Crazies through 3ft of snow barefoot...dumps all his stuff then walks all the back up hill in frozen bare feet to the place
where they found his remains...
Link Posted: 1/26/2023 6:25:50 PM EST
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Hey all you deniers.

Explain the Piri Reis maps.
Link Posted: 1/26/2023 6:31:30 PM EST
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Persians sent a fleet to circumnavigate Africa before the Greek wars. If it isn't a fake there was more exploration than we realize (which is of course very possible) but it is LONG after any Atlanteans' vanished.
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