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He's outing the lies instead of going along with them like sheep.

That's more than most congressman

You think the generals care about that?  Turn their travel budget into "travel to testify to Congress and zero dollars more" if you want their attention.

Hell, don't confirm a general for a change.

Pooooooor Ping Ping

Ironic that you say that.

No, smart bombs are not failing in Ukraine.

Russia is failing In Ukraine

How has Russia’s hypersonic weapons gained them a victory in Ukraine?

Every time a Mig-31 takes off from a certain air base in Russia the whole of Ukraine gets put on alert. But since the US fumbled its hypersonic missile program these weird shills for the defense industry are running around the internet claiming that hypersonic weapons don't matter.

Everyone lies all the time. The only way to know the truth (maybe) is go to war.

Matt has done more than DJT to expose the Deep state, support our military, and support the 2A.

We have capabilities?

JFC

You play that tune more than the Chicken Dance song at a Quinceñara.

That's the point of the video. DOD is lying to come to fund projects that are obsolete in terms of what the DOD claims they can do, and DOD knows it.  Hence Gaetz calling them grifters.

China Tested New DF-27 Hypersonic ICBM That Can Penetrate Mainland US Defense Systems — Leaked Info


Although the disclosures related to the Russia-Ukraine war have hogged the limelight, the classified documents also offer a significant glimpse into security risks posed to the US by China. For instance, the paper revealed how China had agreed to supply lethal weapons to Russia, without giving further details.

However, the most shocking is China’s secret DF-27 ICBM test, which the country or the United States did not publicize. The Washington Post reported that Beijing conducted a test with its latest advanced experimental missile, the DF-27 ICBM, on February 25, 2023.

According to the document, the vehicle flew for 12 minutes over 1,300 miles (2,100 kilometers) and had a “high probability” of breaching American ballistic missile defense systems. The leaks have, thus, exposed the massive leaps that Beijing has made in its hypersonic program.

“The DF-27 is designed to enhance China’s ability to hold targets at risk beyond the Second Island Chain and possesses a high probability of penetrating US ballistic missile defense,” according to the daily intelligence update published on February 28 and has since been leaked online.



A possibly leaked DF-27 ICBM image- China Arms



Earlier, a defense department report noted in 2021 that the missile had a range of 5,000 to 8,000 kilometers. This means that the DF-27 can reach any target in East or Southeast Asia and a significant portion of the Pacific, including Guam, home to strategic US military bases.

The new missile has a “hypersonic glide” capability in addition to its increased range, making it a more powerful “carrier killer” than its predecessors by being able to maneuver to escape American and ally missile defenses, according to an opinion piece written by Josh Rogin.

Although details about the latest hypersonic missile remain scarce, some previous reports have identified the DF-27 as belonging to the same third-generation of China’s strategic nuclear weapons as the DF-41.

The reports also noted that the DF-27’s 4,500–7,000 kilometers range is comparable to that of the DF-4 or DF-4A. It is expected to be equipped with a hypersonic weapon designed and tested to attack the US mainland or a naval facility in Hawaii.
China’s Hypersonic Threat Is Growing

However, this is not the first Chinese hypersonic test that has unsettled the United States. In 2021, China tested a nuclear-capable missile carrying a hypersonic glide vehicle that went around the world and missed the intended target with a very close margin. A second test was reportedly conducted soon after.

General John Hyten, the vice chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, previously told CBS News while commenting on China’s hypersonic weapons test that the tests “should create a sense of urgency” in the US. The Pentagon has since been keenly watching China’s hypersonic weapon development.

Last year, a Pentagon report dwelled on the threat posed by the DF-17. It read, “The DF-17 passed several tests successfully and is deployed operationally. While the DF-17 is primarily a conventional platform, it may be equipped with a nuclear warhead.

Citing a claim by a Chinese military expert, the Pentagon added that the “primary purpose of the DF-17” is striking bases and fleets in the Western Pacific.

However, China’s hypersonic capabilities are not limited to the DF-17, and US Generals have acknowledged this on multiple occasions. On March 10 this year, the chief scientist for science and technology at the Defense Intelligence Agency informed US legislators that China currently outpaces Russia regarding supporting infrastructure and system numbers when it comes to hypersonic capabilities.


China’s DF-17 Hypersonic Missile


A House Armed Services subcommittee was hearing the testimony from Paul Freisthler, the chief scientist for the DIA’s analysis branch, who claimed that China had made significant strides in creating conventional and nuclear-armed hypersonic missile technology, and capabilities through intense, focused investment, development, testing, and deployment.

Additionally, China also possesses the hypersonic glide vehicle-equipped DF-41 intercontinental ballistic missile. The DF-41 missile, which has an operating range of more than 14,000 kilometers, may reportedly carry about ten independently targetable nuclear warheads, making it capable of attacking any area on Earth.

Besides, it also sports the YJ-21 anti-ship hypersonic missile that could hit the target at a speed of 3,400 meters per second (11,155 feet per second) after traveling at a speed of Mach 6 during its entire trajectory and then at Mach 10 at its terminal velocity.



China’s anti-ship hypersonic missiles are more dangerous, as senior US commanders believe that missiles can hit moving targets. They can do dynamic maneuvering during reentry, enabling them to strike massive ships during the terminal phase of flight. This has earned them the moniker of ‘Aircraft Carrier killers.’

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How are hypersonic weapons changing a conventional fight now?

But he is being mean to an Admiral.

Try to stay on topic.

And lots of people in this thread are angry about it.

Not the GOFOs who've sold out working for Qatar and the like, or Theranos. Not the GOFOs who blew billions on obviously deficit systems like LCS. Not GOFOs whose professional military knowledge brought us Kabul.

If they don't get victory on day 2, then nothing they do matters, is what I keep hearing.

My opinion on the other hand is that Ukraine is getting shredded to make war pigs feel warm at night.

Of course hypersonic missiles don't matter.  Why would we want the capability to strike anywhere so fast that our opponents can hardly react? We wouldn't want a carrier killing capability either.

If the incompetents who created the Afghanistan debacle can't understand how hypersonic weapons could be useful, then neither can you.

Thread title, video and thread make no sense to me.

What is the lie? And who are the grifters supposed to be?

Sounds like Gates is saying "hypersonic are scary, and the enemy is ahead of us"

Admiral "that's correct"

Gaetz "Isn't that what you told us two years ago?"

Admiral "that's correct"

Gaetz "talk about it more..."

Admiral "in the classified forum please."

This same exact topic has been the headline on Defense news 87 times the last 5 years. "ZOMFG Bad guys have mo better hypersonics!" It's a huge cash cow. In the meantime, Chinese balloons are over flying our strategic shit.

The use of the word hypersonic in defense now is like the use of the word gingivitis in dental ads in the 90s.

So what's the lie?

China readies its supersonic spy drones: Beijing moves high-altitude aircraft that travel at 'three times speed of sound' to east of the country - in threat to US warships around Taiwan, leaked Pentagon docs show


China has moved its cutting-edge hypersonic drones to an air base in eastern China, the leaked Pentagon documents show, in what is being seen as yet another sign of Beijing's readiness to launch an attack on Taiwan.

One of the documents, analyzed by The Washington Post, included satellite photos from August 9.

The imagery showed two WZ-8 rocket-propelled reconnaissance drones at an air base in eastern China, about 350 miles inland from Shanghai.


The August maneuvers of the WZ-8 were noted in a secret document from the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency.

They show the Chinese military making technological advances that could help it target American warships around Taiwan and military bases in the region.




The WZ-8 rocket-propelled reconnaissance drone was first unveiled in 2019



They also show the sophistication of Chinese military hardware.

The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency report says China's military, the People's Liberation Army (PLA), had 'almost certainly' established its first unmanned aerial vehicle unit at the base.

The base falls under the Eastern Theater Command, the branch of the Chinese military responsible for enforcing Beijing's sovereignty claims over Taiwan.

The revelation comes as Congress is due to be presented with a series of scenarios about potential attacks on Taiwan.

The House China Select Committee on Wednesday will take part in a war-game scenario for a simulated Chinese invasion of Taiwan, run by the Center for A New American Security.

The session has been planned to give lawmakers a sense of how a Taiwan conflict would unfold, where U.S. military weaknesses may lie, and the consequences for international trade and American businesses, Axios reported.

The WZ-8 was officially unveiled in December 2019, at the 70th-anniversary parade marking the founding of Mao Zedong's People's Republic of China.

The drone flies at high altitude, and travels at least three times the speed of sound.

Several other documents allegedly leaked by Jack Teixeira, who was arrested last week, show the existence of additional spy balloons, and an assessment that Taiwan is ill-prepared to withstand an aerial bombardment from China during an invasion.

The Department of Defense has not commented on the drone document.


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So your saying congress cant talk about Classified information that is leaked out, Even though every one knows what was in the Classified information,I thought Congress had hearings on Edward Snowden...

Final victory is just around the corner right?   Steiner's offensive is going to save BerlinDonetsk, right?  Der Amerika wunderwaffen is going to save the war, right?

Keep bringing up LCS, yet when the only people keeping those ships around is congress, kinda like the dude this thread is about.

You keep banging on about muh generals, but I haven't seen anyone defend them. Clutch the purse a little harder with your trumped up outrage man.

@Screechjet1

Matt is usually on game but this was senseless to me. If we are going to attack the administration for security leaks go for it. But his baiting them to leak classified info. just makes him look more guilty than them. It is counterproductive. When I was in SAC the standard reply to these questions was "I can neither confirm or deny..."  

I remember a classified briefing we received. It was a Times Mag. article. The reporter could only allude to the existence of a weapon being rumored underdevelopment. The fact we were briefed it was real made it Top Secret. Now we could not talk about the article even though most of us had read the article at home a week earlier. One genius asked if this meant the magazine in our home was Top Secret now got a "Deer in the headlights" stare from the briefer. It would have been better if we didn't know the truth. It didn't affect our jobs one bit. When I became a Top Secret Control Officer paranoia went up a few notches.

Ukraine is fighting for it's freedom and identity against a tyrant who claims ownership of them and their land.

Making comparisons to 1945 isn't accurate at all. It's closer to 1917, a number Putin doesn't want to bring up and why he is avoiding the draft in the large cities.

double post

And then what?  Do you think that leads to a liberal, democracy friendly, western oriented nation, or what happen in 1917 the rise of an authoritarian state, this time armed with nuclear weapons ?

Tied with ISR, they become an unstoppable strike/HVT elimination/decapitation weapon.

Or like when the Republicans in the House pass bills that they know will never become law just to trick the rubes into thinking that things are getting done. Funny how they never do that when they have control of the Senate and the Presidency.

Conversely, when the Democrats have all three they drive their agenda through like a freight train.

You didn't see everyone whining on how Gaetz asked the INDOPACOM General a question and he was so improper about doing so? Is this another case where I have to actually cut and paste for you?

75% of their time is spent raising money

Curious if a defense early warning track can differentiate between a hypersonic missile and a icbm reentry vehicle.

I think hypersonic weapons are less useful if the enemy assumes the inbound track is a can of sunshine.

Thats assuming they're detected with response time remaining.  Considering multiple balloons made it over the US for days or weeks, a 15 minute change the course of the world decision seems doubtful.

People who hide the information, don't get to complain about people who speculate about the information.

Another? Do you feel a little itch of integrity egging you on to admit Gaetz is perpetuating the very thing you continue to mope around about? Do you truly feel his pandering for votes is actually useful, or will fix any of the problems you enjoy writing about in every thread we cross paths? He is in a position to take action, he has power over muh generals. I get it, he says something you like so he gets a free pass. But everyone else is fucked up right.

Which they have?

Aren't they already an authoritarian state armed with nuclear weapons?

So 1917 part 2 happens but a more hard line great leader takes over  that has  an externally enemy that killed hundreds of thousands of their citizens, and they only have strategic means of avenging those dead, well that is really good positions the progressives and Ukrainian-Americans have put us in.

Yes, our elected representatives should never point out what's going on in government.  They should silently work on legislation while the American public remains in the dark and believes whatever is on CNN.  That way, the legislation they try to pass will come out of the blue and seem very confusing.

Quick, surrender Ukraine.

And for that matter, Taiwan.

We don't want Putin or Xi to get replaced with someone possibly more hard line

Those are independent nation or are you suggesting we exercise suzerainty over them?

They are independent nations.

Agreeing with Russia and China to not intervene would be tantamount to surrendering them, yes?

Nope it’s only the case if they a state of the US or if we exercise suzerainty over them.

English?

Gotta disagree with that last point.  Some Congressionally approved black programs are nondescript line items.  But DOD has experts on washing money to change it's color.  Want a program funded that you don't want to tell congress about?  Wash some funds earmarked for refurbing Army barracks infested with black mold.