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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:06:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Doesn't the airtag only work like 30 ft.? GPS location gets me 50 ft away from the vehicle, Airtag gets me closer in case it's in a parking garage or dense area. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:07:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There were a TON of vehicle break-ins and thefts at the sporting clays nationals in San Antonio a few weeks ago. The trick they were using 10 years ago was to mark the vehicles in the shooting sports complex (usually with an adhesive dot in the wheel well). Then they would go "shopping" the local hotels. Half the people are too fucking lazy to carry in their guns - so they get stolen. Understand we are not necessarily talking about cheep guns - a lot of these are 10k P and K guns (higher in trap and skeet guns). They could probably make money faster steeling the guns than the whole cars. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:08:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can't believe someone would pay 85k for a truck |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:09:21 PM EDT
[#4]
They used to hang horse thieves. That needs to come back in a big way.
Anyone who would steal a vehicle doesn't need to be wasting our oxygen anymore. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:11:31 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought the reason we have these fucking bulky-ass $500 keys for our cars now is that it makes them harder to fucking steal.  |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:11:42 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Nah man. If anything, it made it easier. A cloning tool and a 8" piece of stiff wire and that (or any) new GM vehicle is easy pickings. Both tools available on the web. <---------22 year locksmith. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I thought the reason we have these fucking bulky-ass $500 keys for our cars now is that it makes them harder to fucking steal. Nah man. If anything, it made it easier. A cloning tool and a 8" piece of stiff wire and that (or any) new GM vehicle is easy pickings. Both tools available on the web. <---------22 year locksmith. Lovely. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:11:55 PM EDT
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You boys like mexeeeco? Cartel got a new hwip.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:13:47 PM EDT
[#8]
OK, stupid question.
how do they steal vehicles like that? You mean 2021? I thought it had a lot of security features. is the key electronic? Is that the source of the problem? if not, do they pick the ignition key? Or jump the wires like you see in the movies? |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:14:29 PM EDT
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I've had two Silverado's stolen. A 2016 and a 2018. They disabled Onstar both times. Don't bother spending money on that service. I had to get a garage for the latest one, and still have this truck. lol
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:14:56 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I can’t believe someone would pay 85k for a truck That's the real crime here.  OP, hope he gets his truck back intact. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:18:46 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Hope they catch the thieves.  Attached File |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:20:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ONSTAR can GPS locate the truck without Cellular coverage. Tell me more. If I unplug or cut the antenna wire, how does the car communicate with the rest of the world? |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:20:32 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you care, put a hidden kill switch somewhere. Make them tow it  I prevented thefts of two different vehicles using this one simple trick. Thieves left empty-handed. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:20:47 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Really, you think they are going to actually look for them? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/picard-UhOh-339.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hope they catch the thieves. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/picard-UhOh-339.gif  |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:21:12 PM EDT
[#15]
I had no idea modern trucks were so easy to steal. Many of us that work leave expensive tools in the back thinking they’re secure. Of course many people carry items for self-defense even extra cash or a credit card.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:21:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Really, you think they are going to actually look for them? /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/picard-UhOh-339.gif Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Hope they catch the thieves. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/picard-UhOh-339.gif No shit, if they abandoned the stripped truck in the police station parking lot, they would probably get a ticket for it or something |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:22:43 PM EDT
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Quoted: My brothers 2021 GMC Denali 2500 stolen last night from a hotel. Took the thieves less than four minutes to drive off with an $85k truck. It’s ridiculous to see how easily they were in it and it was running in seconds then drove off minutes later. Proceeded to another location miles away, stripped his fleet GPS tracking system out and disabled ONSTAR. https://youtu.be/DrPnaUM2rTU That said: things like this are why I do things like remove critical uncommon parts from the vehicle and carry them with me if I need to park securely ... besides parking in a way that gives tow truck drivers hives to work around. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:22:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK, stupid question. how do they steal vehicles like that? You mean 2021? I thought it had a lot of security features. is the key electronic? Is that the source of the problem? if not, do they pick the ignition key? Or jump the wires like you see in the movies? Electronic keyless fobs are becoming pretty popular. There's tools out there that can copy the signal that's coming off your key and transmit the same thing to your car without your fob being anywhere near it. Similar to how thieves were opening people's garage doors a while back (did that ever stop?) |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:22:53 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ya. No shit. How does that (not) work? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I thought the reason we have these fucking bulky-ass $500 keys for our cars now is that it makes them harder to fucking steal. Ya. No shit. How does that (not) work? They can clone your key's profile or fake it with the right hand held computer. the only way to keep them from cloning your key it to keep it in a fariday cage |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:31:40 PM EDT
[#20]
You would need one of these hidden and wired onto the negative side of the starter.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003TPYD74/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_CBDMC9HQKPMKJ623ZYG7?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:33:20 PM EDT
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A guy in the building next door to my work bought a new mercedes AMG something or other 4 years ago and he went to lunch with some of the guys from the industrial park and thieves (presumably) cloned his wireless key fob and stole his car while he ate.
They came back out and the car was gone . . . no broken glass, no nothing. Stuff like this is the exact reason I daily drive sub $5k cars and spend my car fund money on a weekend/track car. I used to travel frequently to Bankhead and Oakland (downtown Atlanta) in really shitty parts of town and never had a problem with anyone breaking into my car. I know of 3 guys staying at hotels that have had their nice trucks and trailers/cars stolen either racing at Commerce/Atlanta Dragway or Hampton/Atlanta Motor Speedway. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:38:02 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: A simple on/off switch between the fuel pump or starter hidden works wonders as preventing a vehicle from being stolen. I had switches on my previous vehicles fuel pumps, including the Tacoma I drove into Mexico. I still haven't gotten around to adding one to the current Tacoma. In my first VWs I used to pull the rotors when I'd park them at trailheads. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:38:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All fucking thieves must fucking die. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:40:37 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: There was a crew a couple years ago that were cloning keys from the street. They'd come back later and just drive away while the owner slept. Were they gone in 60 seconds? |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:44:47 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You boys like mexeeeco? Cartel got a new hwip. Came to post this. It is already being equipped with armor and a .50 |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:46:07 PM EDT
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Car and Driver parked a Corvette on a New York street several years ago and watched to see how long it lasted.
They put a fuel shut off valve on a fuel line and it would go a few hundred feet and die. It lasted an average of about 10 minutes. I'd like to put a fuel shut off on my pickup. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:46:40 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That sucks. I hope they catch them. That said: things like this are why I do things like remove critical uncommon parts from the vehicle and carry them with me if I need to park securely ... besides parking in a way that gives tow truck drivers hives to work around. Like the ignition rotor?
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:47:05 PM EDT
[#28]
I don't understand why hidden kill switches aren't more popular. Its not rocket surgery to install one.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:49:10 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That sucks man. Hopefully ID'ng the car following will help. Keep us updated, hope they catch the assholes. Lojack is looking better and better. The truck had a hidden Third Party GPS tracking system that are on all of his company vehicles. Uses them to track drivers locations for jobs easily. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:50:30 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OK, stupid question. how do they steal vehicles like that? You mean 2021? I thought it had a lot of security features. is the key electronic? Is that the source of the problem? if not, do they pick the ignition key? Or jump the wires like you see in the movies? 8" piece of stiff wire, bent in a particular fashion, will pop the ignition switch out in +/- 30 seconds. Then just fire up the clone tool, find the correct radio code, and BAM! New truck! |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:52:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder if they still make that steering wheel lock thing. The Chub or the Club something like that.  That sucks Biden ball bag op. If someone is stealing your vehicle do you really think they'll shy away from cutting the steering wheel 
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Posted: 12/1/2021 6:57:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Like the ignition rotor? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That sucks. I hope they catch them. That said: things like this are why I do things like remove critical uncommon parts from the vehicle and carry them with me if I need to park securely ... besides parking in a way that gives tow truck drivers hives to work around. Like the ignition rotor? Yep. Or part of the starting circuit. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:00:09 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: All fucking thieves must fucking die. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:00:17 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: OK, stupid question. how do they steal vehicles like that? You mean 2021? I thought it had a lot of security features. is the key electronic? Is that the source of the problem? if not, do they pick the ignition key? Or jump the wires like you see in the movies? The only reason there are so many security features is because there is a way around every one of them. If the thief knows how to defeat 3 out of 5 he can't take your truck. If he knows how to defeat all 5, you're fucked. And thanks to online message boards it's not hard to learn. Every feature has a group that doesn't like it. Car guys are always looking to change/add/remove something. Look how many of us hate Onstar. Take 50 people discussing how to remove Onstar, add one guy with...dishonest reasons, amd you have a guy learning how to steal a car through legit discussion. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:05:30 PM EDT
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The last one I saw was a Dodge Hellcat Redeye stolen off the local lot about a week ago with no keys. Took them a couple minutes to have it started and driving away.
Luckily they recovered this one. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:07:45 PM EDT
[#36]
What about a remote controlled relay that was actuated by another key fob? You actuate the relay when you get out of the truck to break the circuit and then you have to actuated again to make the circuit
You can wear that in line with the fuel pump or starter circuit |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:08:44 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't understand why hidden kill switches aren't more popular. Its not rocket surgery to install one. Yeah, the wire to the starter solenoid is pretty easy to find on every car I've seen. You could tap into plenty of other spots in the ignition circuits I'm sure, but I'm lazy :) |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:11:06 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If someone is stealing your vehicle do you really think they'll shy away from cutting the steering wheel Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wonder if they still make that steering wheel lock thing. The Chub or the Club something like that. That sucks Biden ball bag op. If someone is stealing your vehicle do you really think they'll shy away from cutting the steering wheel Always wondered why they don't make a ver 2.0 with a large bent U that goes around the steering column (as opposed to the wheel), then down to connect to the bit that hooks around the brake (or gas pedal, whichever you prefer. Locking the brake pedal prevents an automatic from being started. Locking the gas pedal prevents the vehicle being driven). Once locked, they'd have to saw through the pedal (which is obviously doable, but harder and noisier than cutting through the steering wheel). |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:11:50 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why? Was it a bad purchase in 2020? Will you replace it and at what cost? I decided I want to get back into a Lexus GX. For whatever reason trucks are what have gone nuts. I can buy a 2018/2019 GX for about 40-45k that had original sticker of $60k+ so essentially it is a wash for me, but still at a discount off original price. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:13:53 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I pull the fuze for the fuel pump. Good luck figuring that out. Amatuer. I pull the whole top end every time I park.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:14:53 PM EDT
[#41]
So you buy a truck for say $50,000 and with the market being as crazy as it is you could turn around and sell it for $58,000. It gets stolen, does the insurance pay the 50 or the 58000?
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:15:46 PM EDT
[#42]
Keyless is terrible for security. If your fob is not secured and close to the vehicle, you could also be doomed just the same.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:19:30 PM EDT
[#43]
One of the many joys of diversity.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:19:54 PM EDT
[#44]
Need to bring back a proper hangin' for car thieves. Worked for horse thieves back in the day. Get caught in the act, get a rope...
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:22:10 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have heard the fuse can be pulled to disable onstar I have a '17 Denali 3500 and the only way to disable onstar is to pull 3 plugs under the trim by the radio. In doing so you lose a bunch of capabilities but it is possible and quick to do if you know where to look. If these thieves were that good I'm sure they disabled onstar, GPS, etc…before moving. Only takes a minute or so. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:28:18 PM EDT
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Find the power wire to the fuel pump. Cut and install a hidden manual switch somewhere. Even if can break in will never get started without pump working.
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:28:39 PM EDT
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I wouldn't shoot some poor schlub stealing some food out of a store, but when someone works their ass off to buy a 80k truck and someone steals it? Off with their hands at least..........
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:31:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: It's a property crime committed by poor folks just trying to feed their starving children. We've got to end the school to prison pipeline! Stop criminalizing poverty! Get rid of the cameras, too, because all surveillance is racist! Simone Browne is far from an educator. Anything that identifies a particular repeating feature is deemed racist whether it is earned or not. How did we all wake up, coordinate and decide to hate one race? |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:32:46 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If you care, put a hidden kill switch somewhere. Make them tow it This Many videos on youtube showing how to do it. |
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Posted: 12/1/2021 7:33:23 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I pull the fuze for the fuel pump. Good luck figuring that out. This...or crank sensor to be a little more tricky. The cleverest idea I've heard is to use a 3-position switch. Two of the positions are shorts which will blow fuses requiredfor ignition. Even if he finds the switch after the vehicle doesn't start, the vehicle won't start (no positions work). I could never do this because I would forget and blow fuses constantly..... |
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