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Posted: 11/2/2023 7:50:04 AM EDT
[#1]
I’m gonna vote for trapping and dispatching outside of the residence in a legal manner. Do the homework on this before you start firing shots in your attic and hurt someone or get a swat team called out.
And don’t put this shit on youtube to give the anti gun “animal lovers” more gun control arguments. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 7:53:15 AM EDT
[#2]
Ask a pro for guidance
@Lorax |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:01:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 22 shorts might work but shot placement will be critical. Why not live trap, haul them out of town and shoot them with something suitable there? Racoons be hard as hell to live trap. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:02:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 22 shorts might work but shot placement will be critical. Why not live trap, haul them out of town and shoot them with something suitable there? This is what I would do. Raccoons are some of the easiest to bait in to a trap. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:03:05 AM EDT
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You need a gun to catch a pesky racoon ? Yeah that's what you need is a rotten Coon in you're attic stinking up the whole house. Great ideal Einstein. This is funny, grab the popcorn.... |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:15:49 AM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I’m gonna vote for trapping and dispatching outside of the residence in a legal manner. Do the homework on this before you start firing shots in your attic and hurt someone or get a swat team called out. And don’t put this shit on youtube to give the anti gun “animal lovers” more gun control arguments. "Homework" is being done here in GD. I appreciate all of the suggestions and definitely had concerns about getting to meet the SWAT guys. Trapping and outdoor neutralization seems to be the best plan going forward. Being a "tool junkie", this might be a good excuse to acquire a good air gun though. The Crosman with silencer that was posted looks interesting! The pre-charge air guns are cool but way pricey. Could buy/build a decent AR for what those cost. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:25:47 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Racoons be hard as hell to live trap. I have live trapped several. It's easy with cat food or a can of tuna. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:28:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Crosman 2240. Got a birthday notification from Midway and it was here before my birthday. 80 bucks delivered. Got the suppressor, barrel and optic mounts from Buck Rail, the skeleton stock on ebay (new) and had the reflex sight sitting in a box unused. So maybe a tad over 200 now and I put the brakes on it unto Christmas. There will be more mods in the future. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Finished this last week. It will penetrate a Palm tree through the bark and make it bleed at 30 feet. (tree is coming down anyways) 17.75 grain domed pellet is on the heavy side for a .22 air pistol, but it hits hard and is accurate. The suppressor works great, better than I thought it would, the 14.6 inch barrel bumped the velocity up a good 100fps also. So far I have under $200 in to it and it's fun to shoot. I think it will dispatch a trash panda in an attic fairly easy with a head shot. If it doesn't then it's Jabberwocky time ! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/279984/20231020_121757_jpg-3012641.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/279984/20231029_133100_jpg-3012642.JPG Nice! That would be perfect even if I just use it to off them after live-trapping. Which model is that? Crosman 2240. Got a birthday notification from Midway and it was here before my birthday. 80 bucks delivered. Got the suppressor, barrel and optic mounts from Buck Rail, the skeleton stock on ebay (new) and had the reflex sight sitting in a box unused. So maybe a tad over 200 now and I put the brakes on it unto Christmas. There will be more mods in the future. Just scrolling back through the thread this morning. Thanks, gonna look into that! Was looking at the Crosman Custom Shop online but couldn't get it to work. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:34:23 AM EDT
[#9]
I like using the heavy duty one ways over their access point. Then that has to be fixed solid once the critter is out.
If live trapping, depending on roof line, area, time of year, etc, I'll set a live trap or two up on a shelf by the hole outside baited with marshmallows. But usually, if they have been going in and out for a while, you will see plenty of sign, dirty smudging on gutters, rooflines, soffits that have been pushed up. Things like that. They will definitely let you know where and how they are getting in. Exclusion every time. Anything else is not going to stop it from happening again, or allowing squirrels and mice to start using the hole the coons were using. You just replace one problem with another. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:46:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We've tried a live trap with various bait, but they seem to avoid it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: 22 shorts might work but shot placement will be critical. Why not live trap, haul them out of town and shoot them with something suitable there? We've tried a live trap with various bait, but they seem to avoid it. Have you tried marshmallows? I’ve yet to see a critter that can resist marshmallows. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:48:55 AM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:54:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Uhm...crossbow https://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/c/cc/WG-Crossbow2.jpg/500px-WG-Crossbow2.jpg This, but a legit one used for deer hunting. Worse case if you miss is a small hole in the drywall. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 8:57:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Just scrolling back through the thread this morning. Thanks, gonna look into that! Was looking at the Crosman Custom Shop online but couldn't get it to work. Buck Rail is great with products and pricing. Fast shipping too. I had a piece of slag fall out of the suppressor and emailed them and asked if that was normal. They said it wasn't and sent me a another one with no charge. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 9:03:23 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Haveaheart traps, take them outside far away and release .  Release them? Hell no, drop them in a 55 gal drum of water for 3 min and be done with them. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 9:17:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you shoot at them in the attic, you will end up with holes in your roof. Ask me how I know. Conibear size 330 traps are the answer. Nothing survives a Conibear. Although I did once have a racoon in my attic try to steal a Conibear that had a squirrel trapped in it. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/105614/conibear-trap-330wolf6_photobucket_jpg-3012779.JPG Wow, where can you trap like that? Alaska? Here is WI, the DNR is so worried that little miss, Suburbia McFloppiebelly will be walking her $60,000 prize winning Shit Poo in the woods and it will find a body grip set for canines... We can only use body grips on elevated or water sets... :( |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 9:18:35 AM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I've honestly not tried it, but know a guy who claims a popular fly bait drops them within a few feet. We had some coon trouble this year. Those things aren't staying in her attic, they're going out to eat etc. We got some dog proof coon traps and put mini marshmallows in them. Worked great! Much better than the live trap cages IMO. Golden Malrin and Coke. A coon won't get more than 3 feet from it... |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 9:22:39 AM EDT
[#17]
Pics of friend?
you should convince her to have you suck out all the old insulation to clean and then air seal the attic. There are insulation suckers you can rent or make. Are you doing this for free? Loud music and lights are free. She might even have something you can use for that. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 9:27:10 AM EDT
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I once witnessed a friend hit a Raccoon center mass with a CCI 44mag shotshell out of a 8" Model 29 .
Coon was up in the trusses of a addition under construction , my friend walked right under the coon , range must have been 4 or 5 ft so the full load went into the coon. Coon dropped down to the floor after running around up in the trusses for 40 or 50 seconds leaking blood all over the place. Coon mixed it up with a couple of dogs so the friend couldn't get a second shot into him . Made a horrible bloody mess out of the new kitchen addition under construction before the coon finally ripped through a plastic covered window opening and made his way outside. My friend let loose a couple more shots at distances of 15 and 25 feet but those shotshells spread pretty fast so the coon ran away into the woody back yard never to be seen again . Big coons are mean and tough , seems to me anything with a good chance to kill them could easily tear up a house or make holes in the roof . A puncture in a roof is a pai in the ass to fix correctly. Seems best to trap the bastards and deal with them outside of the house somewhere . Guy who used to belong to my club had a side business of nuisance trapping . Kind of a mean spirited guy , he claimed he had a sliding scale of how far away he would release the coons and other vermin depending on if he liked the customer or not . ( he really didn't like most folks much and most critters got released barely out of sight of the customer) . |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 9:27:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buck Rail is great with products and pricing. Fast shipping too. I had a piece of slag fall out of the suppressor and emailed them and asked if that was normal. They said it wasn't and sent me a another one with no charge. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Just scrolling back through the thread this morning. Thanks, gonna look into that! Was looking at the Crosman Custom Shop online but couldn't get it to work. Buck Rail is great with products and pricing. Fast shipping too. I had a piece of slag fall out of the suppressor and emailed them and asked if that was normal. They said it wasn't and sent me a another one with no charge. Reading some air gun forums, wow, a guy could really "go down the rabbit hole" with air gun stuff. Gotta wonder though if 400-500 FPS with a 14gr. pellet would actually deliver a kill shot on a raccoon, even at close range? .22 Short looks far superior: "22 Short launches a 29-grain (1.9 g) bullet at 1,045 feet per second (319 m/s) with 70 ft·lbf (95 J) of energy from a 22 in (559 mm) rifle barrel and can penetrate 2 inches (51 mm) of soft pine." Would like to see a comparable penetration test with an air gun. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 10:14:49 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Poisoning raccoons outside I can understand but if he ate something in my house that's on him.  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Poison them Highly illegal. Especially if using the popular raccoon mixture. I'd hate to see OP charged with a felony over clearing out vermin. @shack357 give me some case references for homeowners catching a felony for that and I'll pull the cases from PACER/LEXIS. It hasn't happened yet as far as I know but it's bound to. Off label use of a poison and mixing an organophosphate. DNR in IA is on the warpath for people using it on raccoons, ever since spme baby eagles died while people watched the webcam. Thw poison is very well known, all it takes is one raccoon to die where OP can't find it, he has to call a pro to get it out, and the perspn doing the work makes a phone call. I'll risk a fine and ass chewing for shooting in city limits over that any day, especially considering the low risk of being caught when it's a .22 short indoors. Poisoning raccoons outside I can understand but if he ate something in my house that's on him. And when you dispose of the carcass and something eats it? |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 10:46:26 AM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you tried marshmallows? I’ve yet to see a critter that can resist marshmallows. The ones that can, fall for marshmallows with a couple of drops of anise oil on them.  FYI make SURE you secure a havaheart trap before trying to haul an animal in your vehicle or drown it. They can and will come open when inverted.  Also downspouts are removeable. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 10:53:31 AM EDT
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Finish the job before trying to take the trap out of the attic. Critters will try to get at you while you are trying to carry the trap. I don't trust gloves.
Plus, the trap will be doing a jig with the live, angry critter inside. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 10:54:49 AM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Reading some air gun forums, wow, a guy could really "go down the rabbit hole" with air gun stuff. Gotta wonder though if 400-500 FPS with a 14gr. pellet would actually deliver a kill shot on a raccoon, even at close range? .22 Short looks far superior: "22 Short launches a 29-grain (1.9 g) bullet at 1,045 feet per second (319 m/s) with 70 ft·lbf (95 J) of energy from a 22 in (559 mm) rifle barrel and can penetrate 2 inches (51 mm) of soft pine." Would like to see a comparable penetration test with an air gun. Aguilla 60grain SSS. It dispatches racoons quite well and I've never had one go through. 950 fps at the muzzle and 120 ft-lb. Quieter than my air gun. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 10:59:28 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Let me know if you need ideas for what to release to get rid of the coyotes. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This. This is perhaps the most fun I've had inside my own head in years. I'm writing the screenplay as I type this. Let me know if you need ideas for what to release to get rid of the coyotes. Or mountain lion. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 11:16:42 AM EDT
[#25]
  Savage Cub handles great in close confines and zero noise 
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Posted: 11/2/2023 11:19:06 AM EDT
[#26]
A harpoon so you can reel them in from the other side of the attic.
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Posted: 11/2/2023 11:20:47 AM EDT
[#27]
One way gate on the entry and exit holes, then live trap in the attic.
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Posted: 11/2/2023 12:04:25 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Racoons be hard as hell to live trap. nope very easy |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 12:08:12 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Golden Malrin and Coke. A coon won't get more than 3 feet from it... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I've honestly not tried it, but know a guy who claims a popular fly bait drops them within a few feet. We had some coon trouble this year. Those things aren't staying in her attic, they're going out to eat etc. We got some dog proof coon traps and put mini marshmallows in them. Worked great! Much better than the live trap cages IMO. Golden Malrin and Coke. A coon won't get more than 3 feet from it... Correct, you'll have a pile of them near the pan. My dad used Pepsi, he tried diet Pepsi once but they didn't like it. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 12:15:38 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Poison them Nothing like a rotting raccoon in the house. Trap them and dispatch outside. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 12:17:13 PM EDT
[#31]
No way would I be in an attic with a Racoon at the same time. They don't attack often, but can. Especially if injured. I've had to dispatch enough of them in a trap at at short range (basically point blank) , and for the most part, a headshot with my .22 Air rifle does the job...(Benjamin Nitro) but sometimes it takes 2 or even 3 shots. In the meantime, they are MAD.
We've trapped them with Tuna in the can at the back of a trap. Works the best. Used peanut butter also, but Tuna is best. I would definitely try the trap method first. Then killing them in the trap. I do not like Racoons. They look cute. But they aren't. They are disease spreading chicken killers. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 12:20:58 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Poison them Farmer next door uses some gnarly shit, they barely make it 10' from the pan they drink it out of. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 12:33:42 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's the kind of savagery I come to expect out of a guy with zero fucks to give. I respect the hell out of it. My wife's grandmother frequently drowned chipmunks and squirrels in the river next to her house when she trapped them. Her phrase, "Just a few bubbles", will always have a special meaning around here. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 12:36:29 PM EDT
[#34]
States where it is legal to own a racoon, shown in yellow
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Posted: 11/2/2023 12:55:48 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Live trap, cheap canned cat food. Heat the cans up 1st for a few hours The smell will lure them out |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 12:57:43 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It hasn't happened yet as far as I know but it's bound to. Off label use of a poison and mixing an organophosphate. DNR in IA is on the warpath for people using it on raccoons, ever since spme baby eagles died while people watched the webcam. Thw poison is very well known, all it takes is one raccoon to die where OP can't find it, he has to call a pro to get it out, and the perspn doing the work makes a phone call. I'll risk a fine and ass chewing for shooting in city limits over that any day, especially considering the low risk of being caught when it's a .22 short indoors. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Poison them Highly illegal. Especially if using the popular raccoon mixture. I'd hate to see OP charged with a felony over clearing out vermin. @shack357 give me some case references for homeowners catching a felony for that and I'll pull the cases from PACER/LEXIS. It hasn't happened yet as far as I know but it's bound to. Off label use of a poison and mixing an organophosphate. DNR in IA is on the warpath for people using it on raccoons, ever since spme baby eagles died while people watched the webcam. Thw poison is very well known, all it takes is one raccoon to die where OP can't find it, he has to call a pro to get it out, and the perspn doing the work makes a phone call. I'll risk a fine and ass chewing for shooting in city limits over that any day, especially considering the low risk of being caught when it's a .22 short indoors. Its not an organophosphate, there is zero phosphorus in the chemical structure of the thing we're talking about. You're saying that this is a potential felony charge. Federal Insecticide, Fungicide, and Rotenticide Act (FIFRA) doesn't have felony penalties, only federally a misdemeanor, even if you kill a couple of kids with fumitoxin. A quick glance did not show state statues making this a felony in Iowa or Wisconsin, but I'm happy for you to point me to one. Looks to be less of a legal issue and a lower fine to misuse a pesticide than eat a reckless discharge of a firearm charge in Iowa. The only part that make sense is that if you kill an eagle with it, that gets to be a big problem. If OP's lady friend has a lot of eagles in her attic that might be an issue worth considering. I still vote for trapping and gassing them as the easiest, safest, and most legal option. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 1:00:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/2/2023 1:12:41 PM EDT
[#38]
Raccoons used to climb up in the rafters of my grandmother's pole barn to sleep during the day. I was able to shoot them in the head with a .22lr (standard velocity) without damaging the roof or walls. Sometimes I would shoot them up to 3 times in the head before they fell off the rafters. One shot would kill them, but 3 makes it happen faster.
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Posted: 11/2/2023 1:57:05 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll add my two cents. If you're using cat food as bait in your trap expect to catch other critters. Around here sweet stuff catches the raccoons and everything else stays away. The blood and musk smell is real, takes a lot of cleaning to make it go away. Ive had a few get in the house thru the cat door. A bright LED flashlight absolutely blinds them completely. A sharp little tap on the head with a little league baseball bat knocks them out pretty easy. Grab them by the tail and take it outside. Couple more sharp raps to the head finishes the job with zero blood. Have some enyzmatic cleaner on hand too. When you whack them like that they can lose bowel control. It's messy. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 2:03:36 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Reading some air gun forums, wow, a guy could really "go down the rabbit hole" with air gun stuff. Gotta wonder though if 400-500 FPS with a 14gr. pellet would actually deliver a kill shot on a raccoon, even at close range? .22 Short looks far superior: "22 Short launches a 29-grain (1.9 g) bullet at 1,045 feet per second (319 m/s) with 70 ft·lbf (95 J) of energy from a 22 in (559 mm) rifle barrel and can penetrate 2 inches (51 mm) of soft pine." Would like to see a comparable penetration test with an air gun. When I get done with mine it will be pushing 900..  Airgun Hunting Raccoon ?? with JSAR Raptor in .22 |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 2:12:21 PM EDT
[#41]
Noose stick.
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Posted: 11/2/2023 2:13:14 PM EDT
[#42]
Can cannon
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Posted: 11/2/2023 2:14:24 PM EDT
[#43]
Their feces can contain millions of parasite eggs that can go airborne, which will end up nesting in your brain after you breathe them in. Good luck!
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Posted: 11/2/2023 2:19:43 PM EDT
[#44]
I was gonna suggest building a bonfire below the crawlspace access door, and smoking them out, but so many people have suggested smoke already.
Flame thrower. No chance of holes in your roof, walls, or ceiling, and therefore it is perfectly safe. Plus, it will remove cobwebs. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 2:39:04 PM EDT
[#45]
Get a couple dukes dog proof raccoon traps and load them with mini Marshmallow. Come back later and dispose of them.
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Posted: 11/2/2023 2:43:38 PM EDT
[#46]
I have a 22 short bolt action I bought specifically for this application.
I have also used a 22 air rifle with very good results on raccoons before. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 3:05:12 PM EDT
[#47]
Duke dog proof trap and marshmallows.
I've tried Aguila Colibri. Would not recommend, but if you have to (i.e. indoors as you mentioned) I'd aim for the chest as the rounds won't penetrate the skull for shit. That said, through a gallery gun, they're Hollywood quiet. |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 3:13:43 PM EDT
[#48]
Get yourself a suppressed .22lr pistol, a garrote, and a realistic racoon costume. Hang out by the trash and when they come to feed give them something tasty. Do this a few times to gain their trust. Once they trust you, embed even deeper into the group by dating one of the daughters. You don't have to bang her, explain that you want to save yourself for marriage. Thanksgiving is coming up, so propose that week and plan a big celebratory trash can Thanksgiving dinner. They will be fat and sleepy after dinner and excited about the upcoming nuptials and will have their guard down. After dinner, offer to help the mom take the trash to the trash can. Take the mom out at the trash can with the garrote while she is gathering food. Call one of the sons out and tell him his mom passed out. When he bends over to check on her, use the garrote again. Here's where it gets tricky, carry the moms body back to the attic and say she had a heart attack. While they swarm around her, use the suppressed .22lr pistol to take as many head shots as you can followed by gut shots. Follow the blood trails and execute the wounded ones. Problem solved, problem staying solved.
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Posted: 11/2/2023 3:44:29 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol, it can get way stupider. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This whole thread couldn't be stupider. Congrats. Lol, it can get way stupider. There, much dumbifer |
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Posted: 11/2/2023 5:47:11 PM EDT
[#50]
Quoted: And when you dispose of the carcass and something eats it? Quoted: Nothing like a rotting raccoon in the house. Trap them and dispatch outside. Quoted: Farmer next door uses some gnarly shit, they barely make it 10' from the pan they drink it out of. I've cleaned racoon shit off roofs and valley's and I'd hate to have several 5 gallon buckets worth a month in my attic. You can retrieve it and burn it, it wouldn't make it far enough to destroy the echo system or rot away in a wall. I retract my poison statement because I didn't know it was illegal but if it wasn't it would be a simple solution without contaminating the wildlife population. |
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