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Originally Posted By RRA_223: Is Dana a lizard person? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RRA_223: Is Dana a lizard person? That is the most logical explanation. |
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Originally Posted By Rebel31: I posted the times up the page. In the 7 laps before the RB pit stop fuck up Lando lost time (not a lot) to Max. He was not 'catching up to him'. The RB pit stop fuckup is the ONLY reason Lando was near Max in the first place. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rebel31: Originally Posted By not_sure: Originally Posted By Mblades: Just caught up on the sprint and the race so I'm a little late to the party but here is my takeaways from the weekend. 1. I still really like the current sprint weekend format and look forward to them. Sprint qualifying and a sprint race are worlds more entertaining than FP2 and FP3. I'd like to see sprint weekends somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 of the calendar. 2. The black cloud that's followed LeClerc his whole F1 career seems to be back. Ferrari doing Ferrari things screwed him in the sprint and the 3 into 1 Perez and Piastri sandwich screwed him in the race. Qualifying was on him but that's to be expected with LeClerc, he goes 100% during qualifying and sometimes pushes a little too hard but he's also got 24 pole positions and hasn't had the best car on the grid for any of them, it's pretty impressive what he can do over one lap. 3. The Lando/Max was in motion since lap 1, turn 1 last week in Spain. Lando had a whole week to stew about bitching out and going from 1st to 3rd, I think he had made up his mind before the weekend started that next time he wouldn't back down. Combine that with Max's well known "either you blink or we have a big crash" method of defense and it was always going to happen if they found themselves on the same piece of track at the same time. 4. The crash overshadowed the fact RB is as dominant as ever. If it wasn't for the botched pit stop Max would have finished 10 seconds ahead of anyone in the field. He won the sprint race by almost 5 seconds and qualified 4/10ths ahead of everyone on the shortest lap of the year. We'll see what happens next week but I'm guessing the RB is going to be the fastest car out there again. 5. Checo fucking sucks. He'll probably be 7th in the drivers championship by the summer break and 8th at the end of the season. Just give the seat to Lawson for the rest of the season, he couldn't do worse. I have to disagree on #1. I think having FP2 and FP3 are needed for car development and dialing it in for the race. I would be OK adding them to the format and keeping what is there though. Say 1 and 2 before the sprint qualification and sprint race and 3 between that and the actual qualification / race. Also I don't buy 4 because Lando was make up ground on Max and forced him to defend. Yes, the pit stop helped but closing to DRS range was Lando. I think Max drove the wheels off an inferior car. And 5, for sure we are on the same page. I posted the times up the page. In the 7 laps before the RB pit stop fuck up Lando lost time (not a lot) to Max. He was not 'catching up to him'. The RB pit stop fuckup is the ONLY reason Lando was near Max in the first place. On the 3 stint Lando was clearly faster. The slow pit stop hurt Max, but Lando wasn't in DRS range. The combination of fuel load, track conditions and newer tires made a big difference and he was clearly faster than Max during that stint. You know how there are passes where the announcer proclaims that "driver that did the pass", wasn't going to be denied. Well, Max denied Lando. In any event, I am looking forward to Silverstone. |
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Originally Posted By fike: Toto got the police involved a few weeks ago (Lewis fans). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By poison123: Originally Posted By RRA_223: Those deranged Lewis and Lando fans are *almost* as fanatical as Max fans. Having a difference of opinion - even if your opinion is based on direct observations of a replay - will often delegate you into "troll" or "retard" category. For all of the faults with the rabid lewis / Lando fans... They're downright reasonable compared to His Holy Grace Verstappen enthusiasts. Bull...Fucking....Shit. No one is a bad as a Brit Lewis / Lando Fan....fucking no one. Toto got the police involved a few weeks ago (Lewis fans). Toto called the police on Lewis fans??? But seriously, what are you talking about? I have not seen anything along these lines. |
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Originally Posted By RRA_223: I think honestly that's why everyone gives Max a WIDE birth. Even Hams commented on it a few years ago (2020 IIRC) - every race start Max violently veers to the inside of the track; half the time he leaves room, half the time he doesn't. No one ever makes a comment, but I guess that's because most drivers have to talk evasive action to avoid being punted off the track. I'd love to see one driver just keep going straight (and punting Max right into the wall), but they'd be taken out as well and both get DNF's. Max drives a game of brinkmanship: it's awesome, right up until it isn't. This race, I think Max got what was coming to him. Everyone loves his aggressive style, so IMHO it's only fitting Lando is there willing to dish it right back. IMHO the only fault from today was Lando got the DNF and Max still got points - and Max wasn't forced to give back P1 after he "gained an advantage" going off track in T1 the second time... just Like Lando had to on the first time. Track limits or not, Lando made fair and clean moves given the status of the current rules, and it was great racing. For track limits, I saw Verstappen past the white line twice in the lap coming up to that exchange, and nary a peep from the commentary. So who knows. But I hope to see Lando keep doing what he did today. Odds are, next time Max gives him room (because he knows), and Lando keeps the position. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RRA_223: Originally Posted By poison123: If you race hard, expect to be raced hard back. People should know if you pull that shit with Max he's going to give it back to you tenfold. Just like all the track limit violations for Lando. I think honestly that's why everyone gives Max a WIDE birth. Even Hams commented on it a few years ago (2020 IIRC) - every race start Max violently veers to the inside of the track; half the time he leaves room, half the time he doesn't. No one ever makes a comment, but I guess that's because most drivers have to talk evasive action to avoid being punted off the track. I'd love to see one driver just keep going straight (and punting Max right into the wall), but they'd be taken out as well and both get DNF's. Max drives a game of brinkmanship: it's awesome, right up until it isn't. This race, I think Max got what was coming to him. Everyone loves his aggressive style, so IMHO it's only fitting Lando is there willing to dish it right back. IMHO the only fault from today was Lando got the DNF and Max still got points - and Max wasn't forced to give back P1 after he "gained an advantage" going off track in T1 the second time... just Like Lando had to on the first time. Track limits or not, Lando made fair and clean moves given the status of the current rules, and it was great racing. For track limits, I saw Verstappen past the white line twice in the lap coming up to that exchange, and nary a peep from the commentary. So who knows. But I hope to see Lando keep doing what he did today. Odds are, next time Max gives him room (because he knows), and Lando keeps the position. Lewis and Max went thru this sort of thing, as did Lewis and Nico, Michael and everyone else... I missed the Vettel years due to what was available on my local cable network at the time. |
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Originally Posted By not_sure: Lewis and Max went thru this sort of thing, as did Lewis and Nico, Michael and everyone else... I missed the Vettel years due to what was available on my local cable network at the time. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By not_sure: Originally Posted By RRA_223: Originally Posted By poison123: If you race hard, expect to be raced hard back. People should know if you pull that shit with Max he's going to give it back to you tenfold. Just like all the track limit violations for Lando. I think honestly that's why everyone gives Max a WIDE birth. Even Hams commented on it a few years ago (2020 IIRC) - every race start Max violently veers to the inside of the track; half the time he leaves room, half the time he doesn't. No one ever makes a comment, but I guess that's because most drivers have to talk evasive action to avoid being punted off the track. I'd love to see one driver just keep going straight (and punting Max right into the wall), but they'd be taken out as well and both get DNF's. Max drives a game of brinkmanship: it's awesome, right up until it isn't. This race, I think Max got what was coming to him. Everyone loves his aggressive style, so IMHO it's only fitting Lando is there willing to dish it right back. IMHO the only fault from today was Lando got the DNF and Max still got points - and Max wasn't forced to give back P1 after he "gained an advantage" going off track in T1 the second time... just Like Lando had to on the first time. Track limits or not, Lando made fair and clean moves given the status of the current rules, and it was great racing. For track limits, I saw Verstappen past the white line twice in the lap coming up to that exchange, and nary a peep from the commentary. So who knows. But I hope to see Lando keep doing what he did today. Odds are, next time Max gives him room (because he knows), and Lando keeps the position. Lewis and Max went thru this sort of thing, as did Lewis and Nico, Michael and everyone else... I missed the Vettel years due to what was available on my local cable network at the time. It was a significant story a couple of weeks ago. One of many articles |
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Originally Posted By not_sure: Toto called the police on Lewis fans??? But seriously, what are you talking about? I have not seen anything along these lines. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By not_sure: Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By poison123: Originally Posted By RRA_223: Those deranged Lewis and Lando fans are *almost* as fanatical as Max fans. Having a difference of opinion - even if your opinion is based on direct observations of a replay - will often delegate you into "troll" or "retard" category. For all of the faults with the rabid lewis / Lando fans... They're downright reasonable compared to His Holy Grace Verstappen enthusiasts. Bull...Fucking....Shit. No one is a bad as a Brit Lewis / Lando Fan....fucking no one. Toto got the police involved a few weeks ago (Lewis fans). Toto called the police on Lewis fans??? But seriously, what are you talking about? I have not seen anything along these lines. https://www.theguardian.com/sport/article/2024/jun/21/toto-wolff-reports-anti-mercedes-email-to-police-and-says-abuse-must-stop |
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Originally Posted By Weirding_Module: So...you're saying Lando should just drive right into the wall out of spite and wreck himself (because he's already driven the along-side Max into the grass)...yeah, that's one way to go. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Weirding_Module: Originally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By Esterhase: Martin Brundle said of Senna from F3 days that he had this trick of putting a wheel on the inside line, and leaving it to you whether you had an accident or not. The trick being, if you ever let him do it, even once, you were finished, and Senna knew it. Mansell and Piquet also have some famous examples of this too, Mansell commenting that it took both of them a while to knock it off with one another as they kept colliding. It's going to be similar now with Max and Lando. They both simply have to come to an understanding of how far they're willing to go, because they both just learnt one possible outcome. In a lot of ways people refusing to blame either have it right; Lando had to let Max know he wasn't going to just give up, and everybody on the grid knows that this is how Max behaves and it is how he has behaved from the beginning. He's a bully boy, and you deal with bully boys by letting them know in no uncertain terms that you're not going to be pushed around. If their personal relationship doesn't survive that, it was worth nothing in the first place. This is exactly it. The crash in Austria was set in motion lap 1 turn 1 in Spain. That time Lando backed down and paid the price by going first to third. I think he made up his mind long before the start of the Austrian GP he wasn't going to do it again. So...you're saying Lando should just drive right into the wall out of spite and wreck himself (because he's already driven the along-side Max into the grass)...yeah, that's one way to go. That lap 1 start is the beginning of this video below. I don't think Lando should be complaining too much when he forced Max off the track and into the grass after a poor start. So much so he allowed Russell to take the the lead and ended up in 3rd after starting at pole. Edit- you can also see when Max passed RUS that RUS turned left just before the corner which is the same thing Max did to Lando Race Highlights | 2024 Spanish Grand Prix |
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Arfcom bonus point for Bearman.
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Originally Posted By fike: Arfcom bonus point for Bearman.
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Nice, now if Sainz could get off the dime and sign with someone.
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Watched him back in F4 when he did the dual title (Italy and Germany!). Glad he's got a full time seat. Now crack on with F2, Ollie!
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“...in the hands of politicians grand designs achieve nothing but new forms of the old misery...”
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Originally Posted By fike: Arfcom bonus point for Bearman.
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Originally Posted By tifosi: Is KMag staying with Haas? Is that a done deal? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By tifosi: Originally Posted By fike: Arfcom bonus point for Bearman.
It's looking like KMag will be racing in a different series next year. 2nd drivers for Haas is sounding like Ocon, but could be Bottas or Zhou. |
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Originally Posted By HRJ: Is Hulk a getting better ride? Why wouldn’t he be retained by Haas? I understand why they’d boot Kmag View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By HRJ: Originally Posted By DCV_117: It's looking like KMag will be racing in a different series next year. 2nd drivers for Haas is sounding like Ocon, but could be Bottas or Zhou. Is Hulk a getting better ride? Why wouldn’t he be retained by Haas? I understand why they’d boot Kmag Hulk is going to Sauber/Audi as the token German. |
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Originally Posted By Mars87: If the guy you’re racing has a yield or we crash mentality, the only option is escalation. It’s going to be a fun rest of the season. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mars87: Originally Posted By Mblades: This is exactly it. The crash in Austria was set in motion lap 1 turn 1 in Spain. That time Lando backed down and paid the price by going first to third. I think he made up his mind long before the start of the Austrian GP he wasn’t going to do it again. If the guy you’re racing has a yield or we crash mentality, the only option is escalation. It’s going to be a fun rest of the season. Agreed. |
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Originally Posted By RattleCanAR: And likely a better ride. Audi can put together a fast under steering F1 car, no doubt. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RattleCanAR: Originally Posted By fike: Hulk is going to Sauber/Audi as the token German. And likely a better ride. Audi can put together a fast under steering F1 car, no doubt. Factory team but unless they pull off a miracle of miracles, it’s going to be a struggle bus for a few years. |
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Originally Posted By fike: Arfcom bonus point for Bearman.
View Quote I was 87 before it became popular (my first official race number) Attached File |
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“...in the hands of politicians grand designs achieve nothing but new forms of the old misery...”
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Originally Posted By DCV_117: It's looking like KMag will be racing in a different series next year. 2nd drivers for Haas is sounding like Ocon, but could be Bottas or Zhou. View Quote I know it's not as glamorous as F1, but I'd like to see him in the IMSA Paddock again. |
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Originally Posted By fike:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRoNPdaaUAAFPg4.jpg View Quote Breaking: Ollie Bearman graduates 6th grade. Eta Wiki says he is 19. |
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Originally Posted By tifosi: He was doing quite well with Cadillac in IMSA before he got the call to return and replace the Russian kid. I know it's not as glamorous as F1, but I'd like to see him in the IMSA Paddock again. View Quote He fitted in really well in IMSA. I agree it'd be great to have him back. |
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“...in the hands of politicians grand designs achieve nothing but new forms of the old misery...”
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Originally Posted By Esterhase: Financially Zhou makes sense, but Ocon or Bettas would be a way better choice in terms of experience. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Esterhase: Originally Posted By DCV_117: It's looking like KMag will be racing in a different series next year. 2nd drivers for Haas is sounding like Ocon, but could be Bottas or Zhou. Financially Zhou makes sense, but Ocon or Bettas would be a way better choice in terms of experience. On the subject of money, this is going to be Haas’ first real foray into developing the next big Ferrari driver. That comes with some pretty significant financial incentives. David Bearman’s Aventum Group will probably also be dropping some money as well. |
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Originally Posted By fike: On the subject of money, this is going to be Haas’ first real foray into developing the next big Ferrari driver. That comes with some pretty significant financial incentives. David Bearman’s Aventum Group will probably also be dropping some money as well. View Quote That's a great point about Ferrari's funding. I did not think of that. Also as you say daddy Bearman's deep pockets can't hurt. I'm hoping Haas go from strength to strength under Komatsu; it appears he has found a way that works for them. |
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Originally Posted By Esterhase: That's a great point about Ferrari's funding. I did not think of that. Also as you say daddy Bearman's deep pockets can't hurt. I'm hoping Haas go from strength to strength under Komatsu; it appears he has found a way that works for them. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Esterhase: Originally Posted By fike: On the subject of money, this is going to be Haas’ first real foray into developing the next big Ferrari driver. That comes with some pretty significant financial incentives. David Bearman’s Aventum Group will probably also be dropping some money as well. That's a great point about Ferrari's funding. I did not think of that. Also as you say daddy Bearman's deep pockets can't hurt. I'm hoping Haas go from strength to strength under Komatsu; it appears he has found a way that works for them. Speaking of Haas, they have pretty significant upgrades coming this weekend. I wouldn’t expect magic out of the box, but it will be an interesting one to watch given their history with very few mid to late season upgrades. |
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Bro needs to make up his mind already.
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Checo in the hot seat again.
Honestly, Yuki should replace him not Ric. |
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Originally Posted By DCV_117: Checo in the hot seat again.
Honestly, Yuki should replace him not Ric. View Quote yep |
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Originally Posted By DCV_117: Checo in the hot seat again.
Honestly, Yuki should replace him not Ric. View Quote While i believe Checo is in danger, i struggle to understand why Daniel would be a better choice. Hell grab Lawson for that matter. |
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Originally Posted By chaas67: While i believe Checo is in danger, i struggle to understand why Daniel would be a better choice. Hell grab Lawson for that matter. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By chaas67: Originally Posted By DCV_117: Checo in the hot seat again.
Honestly, Yuki should replace him not Ric. While i believe Checo is in danger, i struggle to understand why Daniel would be a better choice. Hell grab Lawson for that matter. I think Lawson has more potential upside than Yuki or RIC but any one of the three is miles better than Checo. |
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McLaren looking strong so far this weekend.
Of course, we all know Max will show up in Q3 and drop a lap that makes you go, "WTF did that come from?" |
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Leave me alone. I’m a libertarian. CW vet x7, give away a kidney to a loved one if they need it.
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The Zak Brown whine-a-thon continues. That was so last week. What’s done is done, time to move on.
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Originally Posted By Mblades: I think Lawson has more potential upside than Yuki or RIC but any one of the three is miles better than Checo. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Mblades: Originally Posted By chaas67: Originally Posted By DCV_117: Checo in the hot seat again.
Honestly, Yuki should replace him not Ric. While i believe Checo is in danger, i struggle to understand why Daniel would be a better choice. Hell grab Lawson for that matter. I think Lawson has more potential upside than Yuki or RIC but any one of the three is miles better than Checo. I'd love to see Lawson in there but I doubt that would happen. We never see young bloods in front running cars. I'm very excited to see Kimi Antonelli in that Mercedes next year (assuming the rumors are true) |
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Originally Posted By poison123: Is that fat cunt still bitching? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By poison123: Originally Posted By willi3d: The Zak Brown whine-a-thon continues. That was so last week. What’s done is done, time to move on. Is that fat cunt still bitching? Yes. I fast-forwarded through his whine. It's over, just move on. |
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Originally Posted By spyk3: Kinda like some people in this thread View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By spyk3: Originally Posted By willi3d: The Zak Brown whine-a-thon continues. That was so last week. What’s done is done, time to move on. Kinda like some people in this thread Attached File |
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Originally Posted By poison123: Is that fat cunt still bitching? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By poison123: Originally Posted By willi3d: The Zak Brown whine-a-thon continues. That was so last week. What’s done is done, time to move on. Is that fat cunt still bitching? I’ve liked Zac up to this point but the continued whining isn’t a good look. As a leader it’s your job to be the calm and keep your people focused not help stir the pot. |
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Originally Posted By DCV_117: Checo in the hot seat again.
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Originally Posted By Mblades: I think Lawson has more potential upside than Yuki or RIC but any one of the three is miles better than Checo. View Quote Agree with you there. RB can no longer afford the mid season drop offs. At this point where Checo is in the standings it is worth a switch to see what one of the others can do. |
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Just finished watching FP1, what was that, 3 times Stroll impeded people on hot laps?
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