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Posted: 2/19/2024 9:43:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TarawaS2000: That's funny. I was planning my post while watching it, an I was planning on saying something about flat out through Eau Rouge and Raidillon, but alas he lifted. Idk if those old pro cars have the grip to take it flat out, but I was still disappoint. I'm kind of partial to listening to some of the vintage GT40's and others going through that section. Don't get me wrong, the V-12 and V-10 F1 cars sound glorious, but that deeper rumble of the 427ci GT40 is special. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 10:19:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roland-G23: I'm kind of partial to listening to some of the vintage GT40's and others going through that section. Don't get me wrong, the V-12 and V-10 F1 cars sound glorious, but that deeper rumble of the 427ci GT40 is special. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roland-G23: Originally Posted By TarawaS2000: That's funny. I was planning my post while watching it, an I was planning on saying something about flat out through Eau Rouge and Raidillon, but alas he lifted. Idk if those old pro cars have the grip to take it flat out, but I was still disappoint. I'm kind of partial to listening to some of the vintage GT40's and others going through that section. Don't get me wrong, the V-12 and V-10 F1 cars sound glorious, but that deeper rumble of the 427ci GT40 is special. We can be friends  Brutal V8 roar: Onboard a GT40 at Spa |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:04:01 AM EDT
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So….”this is it” when it comes to major development for the next two years.
Jan 1st of next year is the first day teams can apply CFD and WT time to the new 2026 cars. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:59:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TarawaS2000: I know it's not F1 but it is an M1 chirping gears and pulling brodies around Spa. Volume all the way up. And you're welcome.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_q5AbKo07YAhhhh, the heal-toe downshifts... a lost art in today's racing world. 
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:20:42 PM EDT
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 The MCL38 Takes To Track! Onboard Driver View With Oscar Piastri! | 2024 McLaren F1 Car |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:23:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI really hope they continue on their trajectory from last season. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 5:25:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: I really hope they continue on their trajectory from last season. Agreed. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 6:14:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Teamer: Originally Posted By Roland-G23: Originally Posted By TarawaS2000: That's funny. I was planning my post while watching it, an I was planning on saying something about flat out through Eau Rouge and Raidillon, but alas he lifted. Idk if those old pro cars have the grip to take it flat out, but I was still disappoint. I'm kind of partial to listening to some of the vintage GT40's and others going through that section. Don't get me wrong, the V-12 and V-10 F1 cars sound glorious, but that deeper rumble of the 427ci GT40 is special. We can be friends https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMocr95cYfUI puckered up a bit at 2:20. I had an experience similar to that before. You think doing the nice thing and getting out of the way is the nice thing to do, but holding your line is way better for the overtaking car |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 7:26:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: I really hope they continue on their trajectory from last season. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mars87: I really hope they continue on their trajectory from last season. It will be interesting to see. They seem particularly preoccupied with V-CARB. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 7:45:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: It will be interesting to see. They seem particularly preoccupied with V-CARB. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By Mars87: I really hope they continue on their trajectory from last season. It will be interesting to see. They seem particularly preoccupied with V-CARB. Probably because V-Carb has a serious shot at P5 or higher in the championship given they're basically using the RB19. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 7:49:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Probably because V-Carb has a serious shot at P5 or higher in the championship given they're basically using the RB19. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DCV_117: Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By Mars87: I really hope they continue on their trajectory from last season. It will be interesting to see. They seem particularly preoccupied with V-CARB. Probably because V-Carb has a serious shot at P5 or higher in the championship given they're basically using the RB19. I’d prefer that they look forward (RB, Mercedes, Ferrari). |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 7:54:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: I’d prefer that they look forward (RB, Mercedes, Ferrari). Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By DCV_117: Originally Posted By fike: Originally Posted By Mars87: I really hope they continue on their trajectory from last season. It will be interesting to see. They seem particularly preoccupied with V-CARB. Probably because V-Carb has a serious shot at P5 or higher in the championship given they're basically using the RB19. I’d prefer that they look forward (RB, Mercedes, Ferrari). Of course, if I'm not mistaken this year's car is the first that has been completely developed using their new wind tunnel. It came online sometime last season so their car last year didn't use it but the upgrades the brought later in the year were designed on it. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 8:01:03 PM EDT
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So can you watch the full 8-9 hours a day of testing with f1 tv?
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Posted: 2/19/2024 8:53:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chaas67]
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tobysi: So can you watch the full 8-9 hours a day of testing with f1 tv? Here’s what I’m seeing on my F1TV subscription  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 9:08:50 PM EDT
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Yes, I'm fairly certain they (F1tv) broadcast everything.
The commentators might be the "B-Team" and just yap about nothing, but they do broadcast it. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 2/19/2024 10:19:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TarawaS2000: I know it's not F1 but it is an M1 chirping gears and pulling brodies around Spa. Volume all the way up. And you're welcome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_q5AbKo07YMy pants just got tight in the groinal region. I used to be a pretty big fan of BMW - but ever since the Chris Bangle era ended, it's like they completely lost their way! The BMW M1. The M3 GTR and years of great M3 cars until the F-chassis series. The V10 for the McLaren F1. The V10s in the M5/M6. The 850CSi. Hell even the BMW V12 LMR - LMP! Today, esshhhh. They're lackluster on the track. They're not involved in F1. Their road cars seem to have left a lot of BMW traits in the past to chase -- well who the hell knows? The styling department that last 8 years, oh dear god, it's like they all wake up and do a collective bump of smack and chase it with a dipper, then head to the clay modeling room to whip up their next WTF styling theory. The motors were largely trash too - the only thing saving them right now are the wonderful B58 and its 4 cylinder counterpart. I wish they would re-release the i8, drop the hybrid power train and slap a B58 or even the four banger in the bank and let it twist. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 10:41:53 PM EDT
[#17]
 Kimi's Incredible Way With Words ?? |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 10:47:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tifosi: Yes, I'm fairly certain they (F1tv) broadcast everything. The commentators might be the "B-Team" and just yap about nothing, but they do broadcast it. As long as it not Buxton the whole time. |
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Posted: 2/19/2024 11:34:15 PM EDT
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The F1 wind tunnels models are limited to a certain scale right? Like 70% ? I thought I saw one youtube video from RB talking about their testing.
Is wind tunnel limited on wind speed? I wonder if teams can run high speeds to offset the smaller car model. Maybe run 300mph or something. Air is a compressible fluid. I found this type of thinking helpful in FEA models, stressing a part to 1,000% of spec sort of thing, to reveal possible issues. |
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Posted: 2/20/2024 8:16:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By danpass: The F1 wind tunnels models are limited to a certain scale right? Like 70% ? I thought I saw one youtube video from RB talking about their testing. Is wind tunnel limited on wind speed? I wonder if teams can run high speeds to offset the smaller car model. Maybe run 300mph or something. Air is a compressible fluid. I found this type of thinking helpful in FEA models, stressing a part to 1,000% of spec sort of thing, to reveal possible issues. 60% scale I think is the max allowable right now. You likely could run faster to 'stress' the design, but they are also limited to 180kph speed. |
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Posted: 2/20/2024 9:52:32 AM EDT
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Quote History Onboard: GT40 Racing SPA 6 HOURS - Highlights - HQ BRUTAL V8 Sound |
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Posted: 2/20/2024 1:10:45 PM EDT
[#22]
Guenther’s final ride.
 Formula 1: Drive To Survive Season 6 Official Trailer | Netflix |
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Posted: 2/20/2024 1:31:16 PM EDT
[#23]
 Pre-Season Testing 2024: What To Look Out For In Bahrain We’re getting close lads. 
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Posted: 2/20/2024 8:01:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhat Kimi was to F1, Joker is to the NBA. "I did the thing I was paid to do - now I'm getting my lunch pail, and going home." |
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Posted: 2/20/2024 8:03:10 PM EDT
[#25]
 The VF-24's first lap in Bahrain |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 3:05:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: fike]
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Overbite cooling with a vertical S-Duct
ETA: Better pic. 
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Posted: 2/21/2024 3:27:09 AM EDT
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Some previously unseen ducting on the RB20.
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Posted: 2/21/2024 3:34:18 AM EDT
[#28]
Testing is live.
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Posted: 2/21/2024 6:37:25 AM EDT
[#29]
So far I see things that I expected.
But we won’t know shit until the race week end Saturday and the end of q3 |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 11:10:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Weirding_Module]
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My only take thus far is Alpine has got a lot of work. Not looking good. Tiers looks pretty unchqnged: [RB, McLaren, Ferrari], [AM, Merc, maybe RB2 now], [AR/Strike/Strake/w/e, Williams], [Alpine, Hass]. It's early though.
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Posted: 2/21/2024 11:14:39 AM EDT
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I guess we should refer to Red Bull Racing as RBR. Former Alpha Tauri as just RB? Or maybe VRB - Visa Red Bull? Annoyed they didn't just bring back Toro Rosso moniker.
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Posted: 2/21/2024 11:21:45 AM EDT
[#32]
Lets just go ahead and say it, Congrats Max on your 4th WDC!
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Posted: 2/21/2024 12:25:45 PM EDT
[#33]
Well…..it’s never a great sign when the word of the day is “ominous”.
Probably a good fit for all involved.  |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 12:51:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chaas67]
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Well…..it’s never a great sign when the word of the day is “ominous”. Probably a good fit for all involved. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG349HDX0AAZBx7.jpg Who’s the guy shaking hands with Helmut Marko? Any context around this ‘ominous’ meaning? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2024 12:52:19 PM EDT
[#35]
Max finished the day 1.1s above everyone else.....hahahahaahah
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Posted: 2/21/2024 12:53:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Who’s the guy shaking hands with Helmut Marco? Any context around this ‘ominous’ meaning? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Originally Posted By fike: Well…..it’s never a great sign when the word of the day is “ominous”. Probably a good fit for all involved. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG349HDX0AAZBx7.jpg Who’s the guy shaking hands with Helmut Marco? Any context around this ‘ominous’ meaning? Carlos Sainz, Sr. |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 12:55:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Max finished the day 1.1s above everyone else.....hahahahaahah Son of A bitch - was going to watch more during my lunch. Oh well, got to watch early this morning. Are the times meaningful at this point, i was paying attention more to how the cars were handling them times. |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 12:56:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Max finished the day 1.1s above everyone else.....hahahahaahah I'm curious to see what Perez does in the car. |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 12:57:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: chaas67]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PossumKing: Carlos Sainz, Sr. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PossumKing: Originally Posted By chaas67: Originally Posted By fike: Well…..it’s never a great sign when the word of the day is “ominous”. Probably a good fit for all involved. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG349HDX0AAZBx7.jpg Who’s the guy shaking hands with Helmut Marco? Any context around this ‘ominous’ meaning? Carlos Sainz, Sr. This could get good! I hope the drama around RB gets squared away quickly and Horner stays. |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 12:59:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By poison123: Max finished the day 1.1s above everyone else.....hahahahaahah Max was also the only one who did the full day. I don’t doubt it could happen on the 1st GP, but I would not trust any time from today as truth. |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 1:01:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Son of A bitch - was going to watch more during my lunch. Oh well, got to watch early this morning. Are the times meaningful at this point, i was paying attention more to how the cars were handling them times. At least not until the end of the 3 days. And still It would make no sense for anyone to show what they really have. |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 1:04:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jmftexas]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: Well…..it’s never a great sign when the word of the day is “ominous”. Probably a good fit for all involved. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GG349HDX0AAZBx7.jpg  Carlos to RBR to replace Checo? |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 1:05:25 PM EDT
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It’s only day one of testing, so conclusions cannot be drawn yet.
That being said… ooooof. 
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Posted: 2/21/2024 1:09:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Son of A bitch - was going to watch more during my lunch. Oh well, got to watch early this morning. Are the times meaningful at this point, i was paying attention more to how the cars were handling them times. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Originally Posted By poison123: Max finished the day 1.1s above everyone else.....hahahahaahah Son of A bitch - was going to watch more during my lunch. Oh well, got to watch early this morning. Are the times meaningful at this point, i was paying attention more to how the cars were handling them times. It’s just the first day of testing, but the RB20 is considerably different from every other car (a gamble) and it appears that everything is working as expected. Combine that with the second plus gap and the low odds of RBR doing “glory runs” and you have everyone feeling a bit uneasy. I haven’t confirmed, but I saw some data that showed “perfect laps” (best sectors for each team) and VCARB in second. People are going to lose their minds if that team is challenging at the front end. |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 1:10:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shung: Max was also the only one who did the full day. I don’t doubt it could happen on the 1st GP, but I would not trust any time from today as truth. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shung: Originally Posted By poison123: Max finished the day 1.1s above everyone else.....hahahahaahah Max was also the only one who did the full day. I don’t doubt it could happen on the 1st GP, but I would not trust any time from today as truth. Russell also did a full day. |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 1:11:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shung: At least not until the end of the 3 days. And still It would make no sense for anyone to show what they really have. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Shung: Originally Posted By chaas67: Son of A bitch - was going to watch more during my lunch. Oh well, got to watch early this morning. Are the times meaningful at this point, i was paying attention more to how the cars were handling them times. At least not until the end of the 3 days. And still It would make no sense for anyone to show what they really have. While you're not wrong, I still had to giggle at the tone of optimism for Ferrari being displayed.
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Posted: 2/21/2024 1:14:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cypher214: While you're not wrong, I still had to giggle at the tone of optimism for Ferrari being displayed. By who ? |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 1:19:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fike: I haven’t confirmed, but I saw some data that showed “perfect laps” (best sectors for each team) and VCARB in second. People are going to lose their minds if that team is challenging at the front end. If true and it plays out that way during the season, there may be allot of car engineers getting pink slips. To have a RB19 beat this years car designs would be hilarious. |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 1:46:36 PM EDT
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Pat Symonds, F1 chief technical officer, has stated that he believes the Mercedes front wing is technically legal but may go against the spirit of the rules since it may produce considerable "outwash" that may hinder the aero of cars following behind. Allowing cars to follow closer one was of the main objectives of the new rule package so that’s why he believes the FIA may look at the design more closely. Of course Ted Kravitz said the FIA shouldn’t look into it.
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Posted: 2/21/2024 1:55:57 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Son of A bitch - was going to watch more during my lunch. Oh well, got to watch early this morning. Are the times meaningful at this point, i was paying attention more to how the cars were handling them times. At this point....this far into the development cycle..ya I think the next few days will tell us everything we need to know. But Max is way ahead. |
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