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Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:26:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Goodn:


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Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:27:33 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GunLvrPHD:


1. Retirees spend less than working-age people. It's a fact, look it up.
2. Retirees fund their retirements by SELLING assets like stocks, bonds, and houses. This drives down the value of those assets because of the LAW OF SUPPLY, and would generally be deflationary.
3. Retirees sell other things too--coin collections, gun collections, garden tools, furniture, second cars. This drives down the value of those goods.
4. The biggest spenders are young families doing household formation. They buy homes, cars, clothes, furniture, baby furniture, garden tools, and lots and lots of food. By the LAW OF DEMAND this tends to cause prices of those goods to rise, and could be inflationary.
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Don’t buy into the democrats keynsian idea that inflation is supply and demand of goods based.
Inflation is always a monetary issue, and is due to the increase in the supply of dollars.Something that the spending by Brandon and Pelosi has increased massively,

Now Brandon’s policy with respect to sanctions has half the world’s population looking to do international trade with something other than the dollars they used in the past. And yes, China, India, and Russia is over half the population. When the dollar is no longer  the defacto international currency, then the majority of dollars that are in existence, which aren’t inside the US economy will come back into the US economy. What will that do to prices?
This is how Putin can win this war even if he loses. He wanted to destroy the US dollar and the power it gives the USA, but he wasn’t able to. Well until  our president handed him this.
Of course anything that shows a possible Russian win is propaganda, at least that’s the acceptable Ukraine position in this thread. Maybe Zelensky is smarter and playing the game with Putin? When the dollar dies commodities will skyrocket and Ukraine exports a lot of commodities like Russia.  Could be quit profitable for the leader and savior of Ukraine…
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:28:44 AM EDT
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You mean aside from letting several nations run missiles, guns, fighters, drones and supplies through its borders?
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all Poland needs to add is Cartel Cocaine to the list of items run thru their border.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:31:44 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By evilyoda:


I don’t know man. As slow and uncoordinated as it seems, the russians are on the outskirts of kyiv poised to start bombarding it.  I sure hope that the ukrainians are planning a counterattack to isolate putins  siege forces to force them to surrender.  And it feels like the russians have been holding back a lot of airpower.
   At this point putin might just be interested in leveling the major Ukrainian cities and call it a victory.
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They've been on the outskirts of Kiev poised to bombard it for 2 weeks now.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:33:58 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:



You mean aside from letting several nations run missiles, guns, fighters, drones and supplies through its borders?
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Yes.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:35:42 AM EDT
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Sorry for giant pictures...Figured some here might find these interesting.









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Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:38:53 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:



Bullshit. Every other time Russia invaded Ukraine was not during the Cold War.
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Originally Posted By planemaker:


If the cold war ended, Russia would not be invading Ukraine. It's really that simple.



Bullshit. Every other time Russia invaded Ukraine was not during the Cold War.


Putin is a relic of the cold war. In his mind, it never ended.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:39:27 AM EDT
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With what army?
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:40:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By planemaker:


Putin is a relic of the cold war. In his mind, it never ended.
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Yup
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:40:54 AM EDT
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Yep, never fear…..
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:41:40 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Goodn:



Howard leight impacts huh.  

Anywhoo...  Hopefully he will be dead soon.
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Russian SF near Kyiv; looks like a Holosun 510c optic?

https://external-preview.redd.it/4ionzPLDFdlbJDWOLGZMU21uA0ZOPC6AKT8QBFl6Hbk.jpg?auto=webp&s=b15b39cff85033bcc7dda9f4d7fce4d5544d03ae



Howard leight impacts huh.  

Anywhoo...  Hopefully he will be dead soon.



Ha! My ear-pro is now combat tested!

Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:43:10 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:


I see the Golden Bridge as:

-Crimea officially Russia recognized as Russian

-Separatist areas become 'independent' republics

-Ukraine doesn't join NATO, remaining heavily armed neutral ala Finland and Sweden

This is frankly a defacto return to the Status Quo of pre-invasion, but is enough of a 'win' for Putin to be able to claim victory.
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Russia said that ships carrying weapons to Ukraine would be considered legitimate military targets. I assume this is a ploy to try to get merchant ships scared to sail,I can't see them being stupid enough to do something like trying to sink a freighter in the North Sea or Med they came to the conclusion was carrying weapons.


 Every day that passes without a Russian flag over Kyiv the greater the chances Putin behaves even more irrationally so I honestly wouldn't discount the possibility of anything,including something to provoke NATO.


Agree. Putin is painting himself into a coffin corner w/o someone giving him a big fucking off ramp.


And that's what makes this situation so dangerous to the world.
Cornering a powerful, desperate man might cause him to do unthinkable things.


At this point what does the golden bridge look like? Putin has to be able to save face.

FWIW, I still believe that this invasion happened because there was no way for him to back off without losing face. I think he wanted to make Crimea official, along with the Donbass region, but the west and Ukraine offered resistance that he hadn't planned for. He likely thought that he would have gotten what he wanted purely through intimidation. "The mighty Russian military has terrified the Ukrainian Nazis and liberated our ethnic Russian brothers without ever firing a shot" would have made him a hero at home, with no military losses to explain and no exposure of his military's actual capability.






I see the Golden Bridge as:

-Crimea officially Russia recognized as Russian

-Separatist areas become 'independent' republics

-Ukraine doesn't join NATO, remaining heavily armed neutral ala Finland and Sweden

This is frankly a defacto return to the Status Quo of pre-invasion, but is enough of a 'win' for Putin to be able to claim victory.

I think Putin will want to keep his north-of-Crimea gains, up to the Dnieper river: Oleshky (opposite side of river to Kherson), Nova Kakhovka, to secure the water supply for Crimea.

but what he wants, and what he'll get are two separate things.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:43:55 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:

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Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:44:05 AM EDT
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With what army?


Exactly. Maybe they just fire off a couple nukes into Warsaw, if they can’t take it by force, and call it a day.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:44:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:

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With what army?


Simply demand them be handed over at the threat of nukes? Seems to be working so far.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:45:34 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By kncook:


Wont happen now.

The Ukrainian people now HATE the Russians and will attack them forever.

They shelled and killed innocents and Ukraine has the moral obligation to always oppose their initial aggression in Crimea and DNR/LDR forever,

May start to see bombing, and “special operations” on Moscow targets in the years to come.
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you mean, like, Moscow subway bombs?
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:47:18 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Suburbanhillbilly:
People's disposable income and spending have nothing to do with it. But because Social Security and Medicare depend on the taxes levied on the next generation, the relative numbers between those two groups is certainly critical. And if the retiring generation is larger than the tax paying generation, that is unsustainable without some degree of inflationary policies.
The govt must borrow (sell bonds), or print. They just use the Fed to make all that easier for themselves.

But as for what you're saying about Russia and the cold war, yes. Anything could happen. A Serb could assasinate an Archduke and start the ball rolling. Could. But it's not likely.

And if you'd not been so quick to dismiss the rest of the lecture, you'd get that. Russia ~ and China ~ will not be likely to feed themselves, much less take over the free world.

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Originally Posted By Suburbanhillbilly:
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First, large numbers of people retiring are not the cause of inflation, almost the opposite. When people retire, they have less disposable income and actually spend much, much less. Exponential increases in money printing most assuredly causes inflation, though.
People's disposable income and spending have nothing to do with it. But because Social Security and Medicare depend on the taxes levied on the next generation, the relative numbers between those two groups is certainly critical. And if the retiring generation is larger than the tax paying generation, that is unsustainable without some degree of inflationary policies.
The govt must borrow (sell bonds), or print. They just use the Fed to make all that easier for themselves.

But as for what you're saying about Russia and the cold war, yes. Anything could happen. A Serb could assasinate an Archduke and start the ball rolling. Could. But it's not likely.

And if you'd not been so quick to dismiss the rest of the lecture, you'd get that. Russia ~ and China ~ will not be likely to feed themselves, much less take over the free world.



Social Security has been a ponzi scheme from the beginning. Further, there are far, far more people now receiving Social Security that have never paid into it. Life expectancy is also higher than when the program started. Profligate spending and printed dollars has caused inflation. Money printing going exponential will cause inflation to ultimately do the same. A better video on how that plays is here: https://peakprosperity.com/energy-crisis-upon-us/

As for food, China imports a lot of food from us. Why do you think they bought Smithfield Foods? Why do you think they are buying farmland? They are using our own dollars to buy their way out of disintegration.

When I see a lot of errors in the first part of a video, I tend to dismiss the rest of it as not worth my time.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:49:22 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dagger41:
This is from March 2.

Buffs over Ukraine (supposedly)
Check out the escorts.

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Comments say exercise from 2020. Would make more sense than B-52s actually over Ukraine right now.
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Putin is a relic of the cold war. In his mind, it never ended.
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That may be true, but the Cold War did end. He certainly wants to recreate it, but it’ll be a much lonelier war for him.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:56:14 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By evilyoda:


I don’t know man. As slow and uncoordinated as it seems, the russians are on the outskirts of kyiv poised to start bombarding it.  I sure hope that the ukrainians are planning a counterattack to isolate putins  siege forces to force them to surrender.  And it feels like the russians have been holding back a lot of airpower.
   At this point putin might just be interested in leveling the major Ukrainian cities and call it a victory.
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Originally Posted By planemaker:


I don't think he'll ever be able to take Ukraine. Looks like he's going to just keep pushing logs into a buzzsaw until he doesn't have any logs left. Then what? He will have a tiny conventional army, nukes, and a broken/non-existent economy. He'll end up with far fewer people than he started with.

Think about this: in one of the videos posted a few (dozen?) pages back, they were interviewing a guy who said the Territorial Defense Force for Kyiv had done all their planning to staff up to 6500 personnel. So far, he said they had 12 times that many volunteer. Some quick math says that's 78,000. In one city (granted, a big one). If they can equip and minimally train that many quickly, multiplying that by all the other cities, there is no possibility that Russia could ever win even a conventional battle in Ukraine.


Hear here.

I've come to think Putin cannot even win this war conventionally now. They dont have the numbers or the equipment to take Kyiv anymore.


I don’t know man. As slow and uncoordinated as it seems, the russians are on the outskirts of kyiv poised to start bombarding it.  I sure hope that the ukrainians are planning a counterattack to isolate putins  siege forces to force them to surrender.  And it feels like the russians have been holding back a lot of airpower.
   At this point putin might just be interested in leveling the major Ukrainian cities and call it a victory.


It will be interesting to see how the ending of the siege of Mariupol affects the effort to surround Kyiv. The Russians assumed they had the western and southern parts of Ukraine under control. If that turns out not to be the case, that will cause the forces surrounding Kyiv to consider how effective a siege will actually be there. Another possibility is that Ukraine forces in the west end up coming in behind the Russian forces trying to get into Kyiv and they start getting hammered from both sides. That won't go well for the Russians, I suspect.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 12:57:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Russian SF near Kyiv; looks like a Holosun 510c optic?

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Is his rifle barrel full of mud?
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 1:02:39 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By planemaker:


Putin is a relic of the cold war. In his mind, it never ended.
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Originally Posted By planemaker:
Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott:
Originally Posted By planemaker:


If the cold war ended, Russia would not be invading Ukraine. It's really that simple.



Bullshit. Every other time Russia invaded Ukraine was not during the Cold War.


Putin is a relic of the cold war. In his mind, it never ended.

I can go along with that.

When I think of the cold war "ending," it is in the context of the generally accepted historical time span of 1947 to 1991 and the dissolution of the Soviet Union and the fall of the Iron Curtain.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 1:03:19 AM EDT
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With what army?
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With what army?


The replacements.

Link Posted: 3/13/2022 1:04:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CurseOfKatyn:


The replacements.

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Originally Posted By CurseOfKatyn:
Originally Posted By hondaciv:
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With what army?


The replacements.



with John Wick?
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 1:04:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By planemaker:


It will be interesting to see how the ending of the siege of Mariupol affects the effort to surround Kyiv. The Russians assumed they had the western and southern parts of Ukraine under control. If that turns out not to be the case, that will cause the forces surrounding Kyiv to consider how effective a siege will actually be there. Another possibility is that Ukraine forces in the west end up coming in behind the Russian forces trying to get into Kyiv and they start getting hammered from both sides. That won't go well for the Russians, I suspect.
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I hope so. Maybe Ukraine forces with western intel allowed the convoy to get into place and then cut off the supply routes and then capture a huge portion of putins troops to embarass him more.

Mass surrender of entire russian battalions would he the downfall of putin.

I hope that Ukraine can hold out and get more weapons.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 1:05:12 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MADMAXXX:
Is his rifle barrel full of mud?
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Russian SF near Kyiv; looks like a Holosun 510c optic?

https://external-preview.redd.it/4ionzPLDFdlbJDWOLGZMU21uA0ZOPC6AKT8QBFl6Hbk.jpg?auto=webp&s=b15b39cff85033bcc7dda9f4d7fce4d5544d03ae
Is his rifle barrel full of mud?

Kind of looks like it
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Originally Posted By stone-age:


I see a woman in the pic. I wonder if she is a trigger puller. If I recall correctly, old military studies showed that women are not as good at carrying heavy stuff for long distances, but they excel at hiding and putting bullets on targets.
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Roza shanina looks like a slightly younger version of my wife who happens to outshoot me regularly with a rifle.
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Originally Posted By CurseOfKatyn:


The replacements.

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Syrians, Chechens and Dagestanis?
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Originally Posted By Chokey:


with John Wick?
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And Captain Ramsey!
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Russian SF near Kyiv; looks like a Holosun 510c optic?

https://external-preview.redd.it/4ionzPLDFdlbJDWOLGZMU21uA0ZOPC6AKT8QBFl6Hbk.jpg?auto=webp&s=b15b39cff85033bcc7dda9f4d7fce4d5544d03ae
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Love the $45 Walkers war pro
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Is his rifle barrel full of mud?
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Russian SF near Kyiv; looks like a Holosun 510c optic?

https://external-preview.redd.it/4ionzPLDFdlbJDWOLGZMU21uA0ZOPC6AKT8QBFl6Hbk.jpg?auto=webp&s=b15b39cff85033bcc7dda9f4d7fce4d5544d03ae
Is his rifle barrel full of mud?



sure looks that way.
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Originally Posted By Chokey:


with John Wick?
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Originally Posted By hondaciv:
Originally Posted By thesilvercord:

With what army?


The replacements.



with John Wick?


Nice
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:



Syrians, Chechens and Dagestanis?
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He's got some boys from Africa on his side
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I got 3 minutes in, and discovered that the guy didn't know what a sortie is.  I think I'll be getting my strategic updates from someone else.  
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He’s an experienced vet with confirmed kills. Served in both Iraq and Afg.
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get out of my head


if it wasnt for me taking care of my only parent Id apply for a passport and go over volunteer



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I think he's only interested in invader butt.
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:
 If this is true,the cracks are more than starting to show. Huge grain of salt on this one but could explain why their situation in the south hasn’t improved to where it seemingly by all rights should have. I’ll file this under doubtful but hopeful.

 
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isn't that guaranteed firing squad?
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Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
I don't know either.
Putin isn't stupid, but what he is doing doesn't make much sense to me.

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ATW!
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Originally Posted By Eight_Ring:


I suspect that this was his Bay of Pigs.  His expectations of the outcomes of his actions were simply not based in reality.

Perhaps he was expecting (by floating the notion of a "kill list" and landing airborne troops at the Kiev airport) that he could topple the government with panic, that the entire corrupt elites who populate the government would immediately flee the country, causing the government to collapse (like Batista's Cuba/Somoza's Nicaragua) and (after a massive show of force during the buildup) he would just roll in to minimal resistance, dictate terms, establish a puppet government, and then withdraw.  The (relatively) low death toll and immediately initiating prompt withdrawl would allow the Europeans to look past the transgression (and keep serving their own economic interests), and things would return to business as usual after a bit of economic turbulence.

Is there something else that makes more sense?  

How could he possibly think conducting land warfare in Ukraine using Chechnya-tactics would work out to Russia's benefit?
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For what it’s worth, right now we know they don’t have the capability to take the baltics or Poland, but this rhetoric to me shows them trying to stoke the national pride fires so he can get more people to willingly sign back up for service to replenish his army.

Like Putin said what good is a world without Russia and we just sanctioned them back to the Stone Age so he’s thinking might as well go all in. That’s why they’ve cut media ties and are starting to push this expansion propaganda. Dude straight up is willing to throw every single body at a meat grinder of a global war and launch nukes just because he got his ass showed up by supposed dirt farmers the next county over. Just my thoughts but seeing as were still in the opening act of war it kinda seems to make sense to me.


It's an odd thing, actually. Putin hasn't in the past been known for being stupid. Criminal maybe but not stupid. He had to know that Ukraine wasn't going to be a cakewalk. Perhaps he thought that the west would turn a blind eye again just like they did when he invaded Crimea and put Russians in the contested regions. At this point, surely he's not stupid enough to think he can even take Ukraine? Clearly, the west has solidified to an extent no one expected. One would think he is now looking at a contingency plan. Attacking NATO after having just watched his entire invasion of Ukraine turn to dust would be stupid. Unless he's gotten stupid in his old age, that's just not going to happen. Perhaps it's just a bluff just like the bluff about using nukes. Entirely for western consumption to try to stem the flow of weapons to Ukraine. The west is all-in on supplying weapons. It's the easiest way (for the west, that is) to bleed Russia's forces to the point of being unable to threaten anyone else. What's sad is that the Ukrainians are the ones left alone to stand against Russia.


I suspect that this was his Bay of Pigs.  His expectations of the outcomes of his actions were simply not based in reality.

Perhaps he was expecting (by floating the notion of a "kill list" and landing airborne troops at the Kiev airport) that he could topple the government with panic, that the entire corrupt elites who populate the government would immediately flee the country, causing the government to collapse (like Batista's Cuba/Somoza's Nicaragua) and (after a massive show of force during the buildup) he would just roll in to minimal resistance, dictate terms, establish a puppet government, and then withdraw.  The (relatively) low death toll and immediately initiating prompt withdrawl would allow the Europeans to look past the transgression (and keep serving their own economic interests), and things would return to business as usual after a bit of economic turbulence.

Is there something else that makes more sense?  

How could he possibly think conducting land warfare in Ukraine using Chechnya-tactics would work out to Russia's benefit?



And what it insinuates is Putin being isolated from reality. It really points to him being surrounded by "YES" men, and the syphoning of funds into corrupt hands that was purposed for  defense.

People lined their pockets to the detriment of national security.
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I'm just saying, imagine you're some conscript from some far flung region of Russia and all your homies got clapped by randos with Javelins.

Your boss does something stupid and now you have to deal with pros from units that Sabaton sing about....
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Originally Posted By outofbattery:


 Huge if true. If Putin has to worry about a Belarusian coup he needs to secure everything positioned in Belarus.
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and this is why the Berlin Wall was built.
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Originally Posted By goneshootin:



And what it insinuates is Putin being isolated from reality. It really points to him being surrounded by "YES" men, and the syphoning of funds into corrupt hands that was purposed for  defense.

People lined their pockets to the detriment of national security.
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Totally agree this is a possibility
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 1:22:46 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Star_Scream:



Syrians, Chechens and Dagestanis?
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Originally Posted By CurseOfKatyn:


The replacements.




Syrians, Chechens and Dagestanis?


Yup!
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 1:23:00 AM EDT
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For those that are ignorant, little backstory?
@sneedsville
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 1:24:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By evilyoda:



I hope so. Maybe Ukraine forces with western intel allowed the convoy to get into place and then cut off the supply routes and then capture a huge portion of putins troops to embarass him more.

Mass surrender of entire russian battalions would he the downfall of putin.

I hope that Ukraine can hold out and get more weapons.
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Originally Posted By planemaker:


It will be interesting to see how the ending of the siege of Mariupol affects the effort to surround Kyiv. The Russians assumed they had the western and southern parts of Ukraine under control. If that turns out not to be the case, that will cause the forces surrounding Kyiv to consider how effective a siege will actually be there. Another possibility is that Ukraine forces in the west end up coming in behind the Russian forces trying to get into Kyiv and they start getting hammered from both sides. That won't go well for the Russians, I suspect.



I hope so. Maybe Ukraine forces with western intel allowed the convoy to get into place and then cut off the supply routes and then capture a huge portion of putins troops to embarass him more.

Mass surrender of entire russian battalions would he the downfall of putin.

I hope that Ukraine can hold out and get more weapons.


Makes me wonder about Rubio's post saying, "They forgot to look behind them".
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 1:27:24 AM EDT
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Missile strikes just outside of town, I'm ok but they hit my Expat friend's village. Waiting to hear back from him.
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Regardless of how this ends. And I know how I want it to end.. I'd think anyone looking to seriously challenge the United States is having 2nd, 3rd, 4th and even 5th thoughts about it.
Link Posted: 3/13/2022 1:31:01 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By MarkNH:


I should take the ferry more often

P.S. for those that don't know WA the Bremerton ferry doesn't go anywhere near where a SSBN would be. Bangor Trident Base -> open sea is not near, for other ships Naval Station Everett is nowhere near the Bremerton ferry. You might see something coming out of Puget Sound Naval Shipyard in Bremerton after a refit/repair or you might see Seawolf or Connecticut, both of whom are based in Bremerton pending the completion of facilities for them at Bangor.
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Have you seen the bullpen down there recently Mark? Last time I checked it out from across the way it had several subs in it.
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Originally Posted By eesmith:
Missile strikes just outside of town, I'm ok but they hit my Expat friend's village. Waiting to hear back from him.
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Stay safe and good luck.
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