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Posted: 3/13/2022 1:34:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eesmith: Missile strikes just outside of town, I'm ok but they hit my Expat friend's village. Waiting to hear back from him. Damn dudette, stay safe. Well as safe as possible when the aggressor has zero care about civilian casualties. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 1:35:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hgunr: I think he's only interested in invader butt. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hgunr: Originally Posted By kbi: @cryo_tech get out of my head  if it wasnt for me taking care of my only parent Id apply for a passport and go over volunteer My luck I get stuck in a Foxhole with OAB  I think he's only interested in invader butt. Damn, KBI is going to have to switch sides. Jeeze, an opportunity like that? Next thing you know he’ll be buying OAB a nice tractor!  FIGHT, Ukraine! 
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Posted: 3/13/2022 1:38:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By spydercomonkey: Russian SF near Kyiv; looks like a Holosun 510c optic? https://external-preview.redd.it/4ionzPLDFdlbJDWOLGZMU21uA0ZOPC6AKT8QBFl6Hbk.jpg?auto=webp&s=b15b39cff85033bcc7dda9f4d7fce4d5544d03ae For the record, HL Impact Sports are now battle tested and used by Special Forces. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 1:42:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Advance: For the record, HL Impact Sports are now battle tested and used by Special Forces. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Advance: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Russian SF near Kyiv; looks like a Holosun 510c optic? https://external-preview.redd.it/4ionzPLDFdlbJDWOLGZMU21uA0ZOPC6AKT8QBFl6Hbk.jpg?auto=webp&s=b15b39cff85033bcc7dda9f4d7fce4d5544d03ae For the record, HL Impact Sports are now battle tested and used by Special Forces. Id fight anywhere with my Impact Pros. Radio connections are another story, but they are GTG for electronic ear pro and keeping your ears warm. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 1:43:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Advance: For the record, HL Impact Sports are now battle tested and used by Special Forces. Clone correct too. LOLZ |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 1:51:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By et_slowpoke: Don’t buy into the democrats keynsian idea that inflation is supply and demand of goods based. Inflation is always a monetary issue, and is due to the increase in the supply of dollars.Something that the spending by Brandon and Pelosi has increased massively, Now Brandon’s policy with respect to sanctions has half the world’s population looking to do international trade with something other than the dollars they used in the past. And yes, China, India, and Russia is over half the population. When the dollar is no longer the defacto international currency, then the majority of dollars that are in existence, which aren’t inside the US economy will come back into the US economy. What will that do to prices? This is how Putin can win this war even if he loses. He wanted to destroy the US dollar and the power it gives the USA, but he wasn’t able to. Well until our president handed him this. Of course anything that shows a possible Russian win is propaganda, at least that’s the acceptable Ukraine position in this thread. Maybe Zelensky is smarter and playing the game with Putin? When the dollar dies commodities will skyrocket and Ukraine exports a lot of commodities like Russia. Could be quit profitable for the leader and savior of Ukraine… what the fuzzy bunny blue balls fucking hell does this have to do with "OFFICIAL Ukraine conflict thread" asking for a friend. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 1:53:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: No. Putin is a cold warrior with a cold war mindset. He literally sees the breakup of the Soviet Union as a historic disaster. The invasion of Ukraine was based on the notion that the west did nothing while a weak Odumbo was in office and he invaded Crimea and he assumed Xiden would be the same as he took the rest of the country. He saw this as his chance for the first step to reconstitute the Soviet Union. Same cold war, same cold warrior. And he was right. The west's reaction was and is weak and disorganized. The only reason it didn't go down the way he thought was the Ukrainians stood up to him and by that I don't mean their politicians even Zelensky. The moral of the people and common soldiers has been amazing in terrifying circumstances. Giant brass balls with everything on the line. If this does become a victory it's Ukraine's victory and there's alone. Sure the west has given them missiles but they did in it their own interests and only after the Ukrainians had made a stand. As far as I know the Baltic states and Poland were the only to offer means aid before the war. I think the western leaders at least the political ones thought Ukraine would fold up and were perfectly happy to let it happen. Possibly even were going to get their 10%. Them talking know of standing up to Putin is the height of hypocrisy. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 1:54:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: With what army? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
With what army? they will put new tires on the blown-to-shit vehicles and drive them to the next victim puppet state down the road. bullshit. vlad gets a 9x19 to the back of the head before that happens. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 1:56:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: isn't that guaranteed firing squad? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: Originally Posted By outofbattery: If this is true,the cracks are more than starting to show. Huge grain of salt on this one but could explain why their situation in the south hasn’t improved to where it seemingly by all rights should have. I’ll file this under doubtful but hopeful.
isn't that guaranteed firing squad? some honorable soldiers would choose firing squad over war crimes. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 1:57:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nickmemphis: Prepping is like gambling. Walking into a casino and betting money you cannot afford to lose is a certain recipe for disastrous loss. You got to buy preps knowing you probably won't ever, even hoping, you will never need them and that sunk cost is probably going to wind up being a total loss. I'm surprised you wrote that. If you buy what you ordinarily use there is very little write-off of preps. Eg You like a particular type of spag sauce ? Buy a bunch of that. Not the cheaper version that you don't like. Like Ritz crackers ? Buy a fuckton of those, not a bunch of hardtack. |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 3/13/2022 1:58:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: It is indeed an interesting timeline.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7empest: Originally Posted By governmentman: In Clown World, the comedian becomes the serious man in the room. It is indeed an interesting timeline.. Their comedian becomes a President, our President is a clown? Something like that. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:00:05 AM EDT
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Plane burning, crashing. 2 chutes.
This morning our soldiers shot down a plane of the Russian occupiers near Izyum, the pilots ejected https://t.me/dvish_alive/9990 |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:00:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By madwis15: How about Dr. Zhivago? Ice Station Zebra is a good cold war film. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:03:03 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Glock63]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenMushroom: And he was right. The west's reaction was and is weak and disorganized. The only reason it didn't go down the way he thought was the Ukrainians stood up to him and by that I don't mean their politicians even Zelensky. The moral of the people and common soldiers has been amazing in terrifying circumstances. Giant brass balls with everything on the line. If this does become a victory it's Ukraine's victory and there's alone. Sure the west has given them missiles but they did in it their own interests and only after the Ukrainians had made a stand. As far as I know the Baltic states and Poland were the only to offer means aid before the war. I think the western leaders at least the political ones thought Ukraine would fold up and were perfectly happy to let it happen. Possibly even were going to get their 10%. Them talking know of standing up to Putin is the height of hypocrisy. Uhh, no. Both us and Britain for sure had sent anti tank weapons and more before the invasion began. Id wager others did too. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:05:20 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:06:09 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:07:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By racer765: they will put new tires on the blown-to-shit vehicles and drive them to the next victim puppet state down the road. bullshit. vlad gets a 9x19 to the back of the head before that happens. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By racer765: Originally Posted By hondaciv: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
With what army? they will put new tires on the blown-to-shit vehicles and drive them to the next victim puppet state down the road. bullshit. vlad gets a 9x19 to the back of the head before that happens. With what army? Just wait another 20 years, and they'll have one. Since apparently no one is going to stop them. We might hammer Russian troops by providing weapons and supplies in Ukraine now, and watch them "win" anyway by Russian standards. Next, they'll expand again after they've rebuilt their shitty but numerous forces, and we'll offer more supplies to the victims? I dunno. It seems like this is some form of a turning point. What we're turning into? No idea. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:08:16 AM EDT
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Same as above, now with twitter link
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:12:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Plane burning, crashing. 2 chutes. This morning our soldiers shot down a plane of the Russian occupiers near Izyum, the pilots ejected https://t.me/dvish_alive/9990 Come on Su-34. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:14:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Plane burning, crashing. 2 chutes. This morning our soldiers shot down a plane of the Russian occupiers near Izyum, the pilots ejected https://t.me/dvish_alive/9990 Awesome. Keep bleeding them. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:14:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: THOT_Vaccine]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Same as above, now with twitter link
That's like 5% of the total inventory of SU-34s Assuming they arent mis-identifying SU-27s... that's going to sting a little. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:16:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By norseman1: My friends in Poland are all freaking out. The refugee situation cant go on forever. Poland doesnt have resources to adopt that many people for very long. Poland has been trying to identify and weed out Rusky spies. Poland is very much worried about bidensky and trust anything he says as not worth shit. Even my polish friends who we would call "liberals" are all glad that they have a leader who can actually stand up to pooty-poo. They have zero faith in the USA having their backs. Really sad shit sandwich we put poland in. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By norseman1: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By XJ: I expect that if attacked, Poland would go 187% "never again" despite anything Biden is told to say  My friends in Poland are all freaking out. The refugee situation cant go on forever. Poland doesnt have resources to adopt that many people for very long. Poland has been trying to identify and weed out Rusky spies. Poland is very much worried about bidensky and trust anything he says as not worth shit. Even my polish friends who we would call "liberals" are all glad that they have a leader who can actually stand up to pooty-poo. They have zero faith in the USA having their backs. Really sad shit sandwich we put poland in. We didn't put Poland in anything. They are near Russia and their country has been invaded before. If they are still relying on someone else to keep them safe that that is a problem of their own making. Poland needs to grow a pair and strike back at Russia. If Russia can claim invading Ukraine because they didn't want NATO on their border is a valid reason then it is a valid reason for Poland to go into Ukraine and fight Russia because they don't Russia on their border. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:16:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: It will be interesting to see how the ending of the siege of Mariupol affects the effort to surround Kyiv. Has this been confirmed, about Mariupol? |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:17:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: That's like 5% of the total inventory of SU-34s Assuming they arent mis-identifying SU-27s... that's going to sting a little. One of my favorite looking planes in the world, but holy cow are they stinger sponges. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:19:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuhndog: Kind of looks like it Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuhndog: Originally Posted By MADMAXXX: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Russian SF near Kyiv; looks like a Holosun 510c optic? https://external-preview.redd.it/4ionzPLDFdlbJDWOLGZMU21uA0ZOPC6AKT8QBFl6Hbk.jpg?auto=webp&s=b15b39cff85033bcc7dda9f4d7fce4d5544d03ae  Kind of looks like it looks like carbon from a lot of shooting, maybe from the under barrel grenade launcher? |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:19:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrankyRay: Has this been confirmed, about Mariupol? I have the same question. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:19:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: The Road Mad Max Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RattleCanAR: Originally Posted By Dog1: Originally Posted By TNC: Help me out with my preps. I need to brush up on my training films. What should I watch? 1. Dr Strangelove 2. Red Dawn (the original educational afterschool special, not the mindnumbing remake) 3. Hunt for Red October 4. ??? Make suggestions here By dawn's early light The day after Fail-Safe The Road Mad Max  Road Warrior - The rig, how is she? |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:28:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThaBaron: I think the boomer inflation thing is the cashing out of 401ks, buying second homes, taking their families to Disney, etc. essentially converting all their savings into spending. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ThaBaron: Originally Posted By solid: Originally Posted By ad_nauseam: Originally Posted By solid:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0CQsifJrMc As others have said here ,this is a great video and worth a watch. It put's into perspective lot's of global trends based on decades/hundreds of years of info. Thank you to the op of this video.He does make some interesting points but a few things he says are a wat.jpg moment. For example: 7:30 The boomers retiring are the single biggest factor in inflation. Clearly economics are not his strength. Inflation exists because of an accountable central bank that prints without limits. Has nothing at all to do with any social group. 2:55: The Cold War ended 30 years ago No it did not. It never ended. The virus went into hibernation only to emerge once again, as evidenced right now. There is a cold war RFN and the strain is way more aggressive and dangerous than anything from the 70's or 80's I would not be all that surprised to see the situation spin out of control. e.g NATO shoots the wrong thing by mistake, or Kremlin does. This right there shows he doesn't understand the modus operandi of the Soviets. You can take from his information any way you please, everyone who watches it will have varying levels of agreement or disagreement. Overall it's a good watch. I think the boomer inflation thing is the cashing out of 401ks, buying second homes, taking their families to Disney, etc. essentially converting all their savings into spending. buying ammo... |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:29:19 AM EDT
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I missed alot today, wife and I went to a concert. So did they break the size in mariupol?0
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:30:46 AM EDT
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Video of it coming down. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:31:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GreenMushroom: If this does become a victory it's Ukraine's victory and there's alone. Sure the west has given them missiles but they did in it their own interests and only after the Ukrainians had made a stand. As far as I know the Baltic states and Poland were the only to offer means aid before the war. I think the western leaders at least the political ones thought Ukraine would fold up and were perfectly happy to let it happen. Possibly even were going to get their 10%. Them talking know of standing up to Putin is the height of hypocrisy. The US spent billions on Ukraine in the last 8 years. They delivered hundreds of millions worth of weapons and a half a dozen patrol boats. The US army deployed troops to train Ukrainian soldiers. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:36:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:37:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:38:49 AM EDT
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   Slava Ukraini
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:40:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: The US spent billions on Ukraine in the last 8 years. They delivered hundreds of millions worth of weapons and a half a dozen patrol boats. The US army deployed troops to train Ukrainian soldiers. Just like Afghanistan.
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:46:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Just like Afghanistan. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Originally Posted By Ryan_Scott: The US spent billions on Ukraine in the last 8 years. They delivered hundreds of millions worth of weapons and a half a dozen patrol boats. The US army deployed troops to train Ukrainian soldiers. Just like Afghanistan. Seems like it was a bit better return this time. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:48:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope: Just like Afghanistan. Any success the Army has here in working with the Ukrainians is going to be due to the fact that they didn't attempt to turn the Ukrainian Army into a shittier version of themselves. Not that they certainly wouldn't have if the funding had been available. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:51:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWIRE: We didn't put Poland in anything. They are near Russia and their country has been invaded before. If they are still relying on someone else to keep them safe that that is a problem of their own making. Poland needs to grow a pair and strike back at Russia. If Russia can claim invading Ukraine because they didn't want NATO on their border is a valid reason then it is a valid reason for Poland to go into Ukraine and fight Russia because they don't Russia on their border. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SWIRE: Originally Posted By norseman1: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By XJ: I expect that if attacked, Poland would go 187% "never again" despite anything Biden is told to say My friends in Poland are all freaking out. The refugee situation cant go on forever. Poland doesnt have resources to adopt that many people for very long. Poland has been trying to identify and weed out Rusky spies. Poland is very much worried about bidensky and trust anything he says as not worth shit. Even my polish friends who we would call "liberals" are all glad that they have a leader who can actually stand up to pooty-poo. They have zero faith in the USA having their backs. Really sad shit sandwich we put poland in. We didn't put Poland in anything. They are near Russia and their country has been invaded before. If they are still relying on someone else to keep them safe that that is a problem of their own making. Poland needs to grow a pair and strike back at Russia. If Russia can claim invading Ukraine because they didn't want NATO on their border is a valid reason then it is a valid reason for Poland to go into Ukraine and fight Russia because they don't Russia on their border. 2 generations ago my family had a "...ski" in it. immigrants with no money and didn't speak English. Polish chased out of Europe by communists. fuck russia. fuck vlad. sniff and blow have a clock ticking, they lose the house and senate in 2022. lose the Presidency in 2024. complete disaster domestically and foreign relations. Poke Poland and see what happens. bring the noise. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:52:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: With what army? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
With what army? At the end of 1941 the Soviet Union lost over 6 million soldiers and 20,000 tanks. Many exactly as they are lost today, abandoned due to bad maintenance, bad logistics, bad comms. Anyways, each army the Wehrmacht eliminated or captured, a new one would rise up in its place. Now this is a war of conquest, not national survival(for Russia) and Putin is no Stalin and they can’t build or refurbish T-72s as fast as T-34s but I don’t think we’re anywhere close to Russia’s ability to absorb and replace losses. Here’s hoping I’m wrong. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 2:58:50 AM EDT
[#40]
I think one of the NATO countries is going to jump the gun soon.
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Posted: 3/13/2022 3:00:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By THOT_Vaccine: There was a Reddit thread of some McD's junky stocking up on shit since they were closing. Guy had a freezer full of cheeseburgers. Filet 'o fish. Whatnot. It was literally his shtf stash. I saw it and instantly knew they had no idea how fucked they actually were. He had a lack of cheeseburgers as a major concern. ITT we discover who has never been deprived of cheeseburgers for an extended period of time. 
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Posted: 3/13/2022 3:02:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Freiheit8472]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stone-age: I have the same question. Second this question, was just about to post it. (Has anyone broken through the siege of Mariupol?) Found a disheartening thread about folks fighting each other for food now... Starving Ukrainians are attacking each other for food in Mariupol, Red Cross warns |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 3:03:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cure4commies556: At the end of 1941 the Soviet Union lost over 6 million soldiers and 20,000 tanks. Many exactly as they are lost today, abandoned due to bad maintenance, bad logistics, bad comms. Anyways, each army the Wehrmacht eliminated or captured, a new one would rise up in its place. Now this is a war of conquest, not national survival(for Russia) and Putin is no Stalin and they can't build or refurbish T-72s as fast as T-34s but I don't think we're anywhere close to Russia's ability to absorb and replace losses. Here's hoping I'm wrong. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 3:10:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: They've been on the outskirts of Kiev poised to bombard it for 2 weeks now. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By hondaciv: Originally Posted By evilyoda: I don’t know man. As slow and uncoordinated as it seems, the russians are on the outskirts of kyiv poised to start bombarding it. I sure hope that the ukrainians are planning a counterattack to isolate putins siege forces to force them to surrender. And it feels like the russians have been holding back a lot of airpower. At this point putin might just be interested in leveling the major Ukrainian cities and call it a victory. They've been on the outskirts of Kiev poised to bombard it for 2 weeks now. wondering if the Ukranians will be able to counter-battery artillery that shit? enough time to prepare, they're not surrounded, yet. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 3:13:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MouseBoy: Probably one of the strongest drivers of inflation has been Biden's moratorium on student loan payments. Also, let's not forget wannabe student loan holder deadbeats absolutely elected Biden due to their delusion of loan forgiveness. Biden wasn't elected. He was installed by the establishment in a stolen election. Rampant, well-documented election fraud manufactured the votes needed to close the gap. Everyone knows this. That's why any mention of it was censored so aggressively by the tech oligarchs. They can't let people talk about the truth. Truth is their kryptonite. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 3:13:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: OBird]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mancow: Seems like it was a bit better return this time. Holy crap… Spend $2 trillion after taking over all of Afghanistan and trying to build them from the ground up over 20 years = zero tangible benefit Spend a few billion, toss some javelins at Ukraine and say “good luck” = practically cripple the Russian Army in a few weeks Wowza. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 3:14:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: wondering if the Ukranians will be able to counter-battery artillery that shit? enough time to prepare, they're not surrounded, yet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: Originally Posted By hondaciv: Originally Posted By evilyoda: I don’t know man. As slow and uncoordinated as it seems, the russians are on the outskirts of kyiv poised to start bombarding it. I sure hope that the ukrainians are planning a counterattack to isolate putins siege forces to force them to surrender. And it feels like the russians have been holding back a lot of airpower. At this point putin might just be interested in leveling the major Ukrainian cities and call it a victory. They've been on the outskirts of Kiev poised to bombard it for 2 weeks now. wondering if the Ukranians will be able to counter-battery artillery that shit? enough time to prepare, they're not surrounded, yet. Theyve been using drones to deplete mechanized forces with great efficiency. Pretty impressive to hit moving targets with long range arty, but they are and that is good. |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 3:14:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: Exactly. Maybe they just fire off a couple nukes into Warsaw, if they can’t take it by force, and call it a day. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: Originally Posted By hondaciv: Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
With what army? Exactly. Maybe they just fire off a couple nukes into Warsaw, if they can’t take it by force, and call it a day. and maybe that's why we sent Patriot missile batteries to Poland? |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 3:15:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Riply21: Russia is not the soviet union they have an aging population and low birthrates. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Riply21: Originally Posted By Cure4commies556: At the end of 1941 the Soviet Union lost over 6 million soldiers and 20,000 tanks. Many exactly as they are lost today, abandoned due to bad maintenance, bad logistics, bad comms. Anyways, each army the Wehrmacht eliminated or captured, a new one would rise up in its place. Now this is a war of conquest, not national survival(for Russia) and Putin is no Stalin and they can't build or refurbish T-72s as fast as T-34s but I don't think we're anywhere close to Russia's ability to absorb and replace losses. Here's hoping I'm wrong. If I may, just throwing in that the mechanized stuff Ivan was using back then was new. Literally rolling off the production lines into battle, like at Kursk (and it still broke down at statistically significant rates). Add in more complicated designs now and sitting unattended for God knows how long... maybe it's impressive as much of this stuff works as it is. Anybody remember something like this?: Since the Germans trained and worked with the Soviets during Weimar due to treaty restrictions, I remember reading somewhere that the Russian tanks (maybe even the T-34) were either mostly German designs or highly derivative works, like the AK47 turned out to be. My memory is fuzzy on it these days... |
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Posted: 3/13/2022 3:16:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: wondering if the Ukranians will be able to counter-battery artillery that shit? enough time to prepare, they're not surrounded, yet. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By x248716x: Originally Posted By hondaciv: Originally Posted By evilyoda: I don’t know man. As slow and uncoordinated as it seems, the russians are on the outskirts of kyiv poised to start bombarding it. I sure hope that the ukrainians are planning a counterattack to isolate putins siege forces to force them to surrender. And it feels like the russians have been holding back a lot of airpower. At this point putin might just be interested in leveling the major Ukrainian cities and call it a victory. They've been on the outskirts of Kiev poised to bombard it for 2 weeks now. wondering if the Ukranians will be able to counter-battery artillery that shit? enough time to prepare, they're not surrounded, yet. The longer I watch Russia's moves, the more I suspect they had hopes of colonization. Like old school, "You go away, this is ours now." type shit. If you wipe a city off the map, it's likely there will be a need to rebuild it. If you're so strapped for cash that you're considering colonization as a viable option... It's likely you ain't got the scratch or the time for such things. |
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