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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:03:42 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By norseman1: Russia picking a fight with Poland would be the LAST thing they would want to try at this point. The Poles are "not happy" with shit to their east. They have been on high alert and have moved toys around on their playgrounds very seriously. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:05:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryGood watch. Thank you for posting. God bless these people. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:06:14 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: Maybe not a nuke, but: https://www.businessinsider.com/sunk-russia-warship-may-have-carried-holy-relic-on-board-2022-4 A lot of good that did them lol. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:07:18 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sawgunner73: What brainiac of the Russian Orthodox Church thought it a good idea to put a holy relic, much less a piece of the true Cross, on a warship? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sawgunner73: Originally Posted By M-1975: Maybe not a nuke, but: https://www.businessinsider.com/sunk-russia-warship-may-have-carried-holy-relic-on-board-2022-4 What brainiac of the Russian Orthodox Church thought it a good idea to put a holy relic, much less a piece of the true Cross, on a warship? It’s not. It’s a piece of wood someone found in 1520 and thought he would get famous. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:11:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1Andy2: Do or die amphibious landing? They can't be that retar... oh who am I kidding? Yeah that seems like lunacy even for them. That said, they are on the backside of the propaganda power curve and Ukraine just hit a grand slam home run. Maybe that will cause them to make even worse decisions to try to get back in the driver’s seat. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:11:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: That is part of the reason why I think Poland should put a peacekeeping force in northern Ukraine. A: it would free up forces in Ukraine B: it would give Poland a straight line to Moscow.  |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:12:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: It’s not. It’s a piece of wood someone found in 1520 and thought he would get famous. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By sawgunner73: Originally Posted By M-1975: Maybe not a nuke, but: https://www.businessinsider.com/sunk-russia-warship-may-have-carried-holy-relic-on-board-2022-4 What brainiac of the Russian Orthodox Church thought it a good idea to put a holy relic, much less a piece of the true Cross, on a warship? It’s not. It’s a piece of wood someone found in 1520 and thought he would get famous. How would one know for sure? I agree that's something that should not be on any warship. Dumb move if it's true |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:13:30 PM EST
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:15:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: How would one know for sure? I agree that's something that should not be on any warship. Dumb move if it's true Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By sawgunner73: Originally Posted By M-1975: Maybe not a nuke, but: https://www.businessinsider.com/sunk-russia-warship-may-have-carried-holy-relic-on-board-2022-4 What brainiac of the Russian Orthodox Church thought it a good idea to put a holy relic, much less a piece of the true Cross, on a warship? It's not. It's a piece of wood someone found in 1520 and thought he would get famous. How would one know for sure? I agree that's something that should not be on any warship. Dumb move if it's true |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:15:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryI can hear that gif. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:16:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2A373: Originally Posted By M-1975: I thought the rocket for people was armed by Abu Ridhwan remembering to pull the pin:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM3ElTvF52Ihttps://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/rpg_jpg-2350482.JPG "Good job, but you roasted us too" Abu was apparently Arabic for Carl 
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:18:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Schmigs:
Saboteurs out of uniform have no protections. I can’t see Ukraine exchanging him for prisoners - likely they want to make examples of all such men. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:19:21 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sawgunner73: What brainiac of the Russian Orthodox Church thought it a good idea to put a holy relic, much less a piece of the true Cross, on a warship? I am sure they can find a nun with a spare piece she can sell them. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:21:22 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: QFT Their whole strategy of bluster deterrence is too obvious and yet people still fall for it. Instead of the West clutching pearls, paralyzed (not so much this time) wondering "OMG what if Russia mad, what might they do," we should have the Russians worried about what we might do if they piss us off. Would be nice but we’ll never see it. That said, IMO Russia is doing everything possible to convince the world it’s a rabid dog that needs to be put down. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:24:35 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Trying to get ashore before the UK Harpoons arrive perhaps. I think that got announced 4-5 days ago, might be just long enough to herd the nearest conscripts onto the ships. Doing so immediately after Moskva went down would be remarkably bold, but Putin is capable of accepting 50% hull losses now if waiting means being unable to use them at all later. And it might be Putin succumbing to an angry ego thing, showing Ukraine their puny missiles can't stop mighty Russian Navy etc etc. Even if the Harpoons aren’t up yet (likely) attacking directly into Odessa is insane. The Ukrainians have to have a bunch of arty around not to mention ATGMs. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:28:09 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: Playing armchair general, so feel free to laugh. Ukraine could have tried this strategy to take out Moskva weeks ago. Why now? My guess: They had been holding their very limited supply of Neptune missiles in reserve in case of an attempted landing to take Odessa. Britain promised antiship missiles. Perhaps the Brit missiles have been delivered, giving Ukraine enough weapons of these types to feel comfortable taking a couple shots at Moskva? They’ve probably been working on the op for weeks while they pattern the Moskva, conduct “dry runs” to gauge capabilities and build erroneous expectations on the Russia side, and conduct top-to-bottom maintenance. As to the exact timing, I feel they could have done it earlier but withheld what they believed was a “sure thing” to flip the propaganda script when they lost Mariupol. It’s really brilliant. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:28:41 PM EST
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Ukraine is scanning faces of dead Russians, then contacting the mothers
Ukrainian officials have run more than 8,600 facial recognition searches on dead or captured Russian soldiers in the 50 days since Moscow’s invasion began, using the scans to identify bodies and contact hundreds of their families in what may be one of the most gruesome applications of the technology to date. The country’s IT Army, a volunteer force of hackers and activists that takes its direction from the Ukrainian government, says it has used those identifications to inform the families of the deaths of 582 Russians, including by sending them photos of the abandoned corpses. The Ukrainians champion the use of face-scanning software from the U.S. tech firm Clearview AI as a brutal but effective way to stir up dissent inside Russia, discourage other fighters and hasten an end to a devastating war. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-is-scanning-faces-of-dead-russians-then-contacting-the-mothers/ar-AAWfxx8 |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:30:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Even if the Harpoons aren’t up yet (likely) attacking directly into Odessa is insane. The Ukrainians have to have a bunch of arty around not to mention ATGMs. And 1600 miles of tunnels. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:32:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: That is exactly my assessment as well, so I'm not laughing.  Also we have no way of knowing what missiles were actually used. Harpoon? NSM? Hell it could have been neptune too. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:34:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Even if the Harpoons aren't up yet (likely) attacking directly into Odessa is insane. The Ukrainians have to have a bunch of arty around not to mention ATGMs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Trying to get ashore before the UK Harpoons arrive perhaps. I think that got announced 4-5 days ago, might be just long enough to herd the nearest conscripts onto the ships. Doing so immediately after Moskva went down would be remarkably bold, but Putin is capable of accepting 50% hull losses now if waiting means being unable to use them at all later. And it might be Putin succumbing to an angry ego thing, showing Ukraine their puny missiles can't stop mighty Russian Navy etc etc. Even if the Harpoons aren't up yet (likely) attacking directly into Odessa is insane. The Ukrainians have to have a bunch of arty around not to mention ATGMs. A vid of a Stuhna slamming into a Grigorovich or Buyan would be hilarious. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:38:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Foxtrot08: Nuke retrieval? If the Moscow went down with nukes on board. I’m sure they’re going to send everything they have, as fast as they can, to retrieve them. So far as I can tell, Moskva went down in about 100M of water. That isn’t a trivial dive and I’ll go out on a ledge and say that your typical Russian landing support ship isn’t going to have a trimix dive team handy. That said, they could depth charge their own ship to wreck it and make recovery difficult. Heck, they could even nuke it to destroy their own nukes and send a rather unpleasant message. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:40:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Yeah that seems like lunacy even for them. That said, they are on the backside of the propaganda power curve and Ukraine just hit a grand slam home run. Maybe that will cause them to make even worse decisions to try to get back in the driver’s seat. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By 1Andy2: Do or die amphibious landing? They can't be that retar... oh who am I kidding? Yeah that seems like lunacy even for them. That said, they are on the backside of the propaganda power curve and Ukraine just hit a grand slam home run. Maybe that will cause them to make even worse decisions to try to get back in the driver’s seat. Planned by the same guy that planned the airborne assault of Hostumel. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:40:17 PM EST
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:42:40 PM EST
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:44:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmjung: For those who might know...would our assets in the air or orbit be able to track where such a missile was launched from? Assuming we wanted to monitor the area? Hell, NATO likely gave UKR intelligence on the ship’s habits and position. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:47:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryThat shit pile of grass on the train is worrying. Russians going be Russians level even more cities |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:47:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BirddogSC: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/330018/25779A53-05AD-4A63-8DD7-846FE492C102_png-2349379.JPG If what we've heard is true, this is very fitting! |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:47:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XJ: Boebert Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By XJ: Originally Posted By Chaingun: MTG is a big kick in the pants I liked her attitude...until her opinion of UA Boebert One scale point off the Looney tunes but she is the usefully idiot that Putin needs and some of the right love. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:49:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By outofbattery:
Just more orcs doing orc things. Certain to further endear themselves to the Poles! |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:49:55 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
Can Ukraine withstand total war with Russia? They've done really great on a limited basis for the first six weeks. But can they survive a total mobilization of all of Russia bent on extermination? |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:50:03 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: So a $375 grenade or two takes out a half million dollar tank. Ukrainians are a frugal bunch. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Another one bites the dust So a $375 grenade or two takes out a half million dollar tank. Ukrainians are a frugal bunch. The grenade was probably free, courtesy of some dead Russians. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:53:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: Hell, NATO likely gave UKR intelligence on the ship’s habits and position. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pallas: Originally Posted By dmjung: For those who might know...would our assets in the air or orbit be able to track where such a missile was launched from? Assuming we wanted to monitor the area? Hell, NATO likely gave UKR intelligence on the ship’s habits and position. They didn’t need NATO to tell them, it was on Twitter. This article is dated April 7th. Russia’s Most Powerful Warship In The Black Sea Is Operating In A Pattern |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:54:57 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zhukov: I pray this whole thing starts a little bit of an awakening to point out that those on "our" side aren't necessarily our friends. We tend to idolize them simply because they have an "R" next to their name and ignore anything bad we hear about them. If we can't critically look at our own, then what are we? That might be going too far. The Dems win by embracing anyone who wears a D, no matter how awful, and they link arms to defend anyone calling one of their own down. The Reps see one of their own as bad, and they join the Dems in calling them down (like Trump). Result: Dems win. Should MTG be primaried? Darn right. Should everyone R keep their distance from her? Yes. Should Reps openly trash her? I'm not so sure. You don't see Dems trashing AOC or the Somali brother-lover. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:55:59 PM EST
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Quote HistoryPosing for a photo op? Never took it off of safe, so I doubt it was a combat situation. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:58:52 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: That might be going too far. The Dems win by embracing anyone who wears a D, no matter how awful, and they link arms to defend anyone calling one of their own down. The Reps see one of their own as bad, and they join the Dems in calling them down (like Trump). Result: Dems win. Should MTG be primaried? Darn right. Should everyone R keep their distance from her? Yes. Should Reps openly trash her? I'm not so sure. You don't see Dems trashing AOC or the Somali brother-lover. Why would they? They're the future of the D party. Know who they do talk shit about? Manchin |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:59:41 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Can Ukraine withstand total war with Russia? They've done really great on a limited basis for the first six weeks. But can they survive a total mobilization of all of Russia bent on extermination? I'm pretty sure they have taken russia's best shot right now. Everything from here on out is lower quality, and sinking fast. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:04:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Krater: We didn't - we are donating ~1000 of M1117 to Greece. I think Ukrainians could've made better use of them. God, insult after injury, isn't it?  At least some people in MS got employed making some shit, I guess?  |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:06:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Even if the Harpoons aren’t up yet (likely) attacking directly into Odessa is insane. The Ukrainians have to have a bunch of arty around not to mention ATGMs. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Trying to get ashore before the UK Harpoons arrive perhaps. I think that got announced 4-5 days ago, might be just long enough to herd the nearest conscripts onto the ships. Doing so immediately after Moskva went down would be remarkably bold, but Putin is capable of accepting 50% hull losses now if waiting means being unable to use them at all later. And it might be Putin succumbing to an angry ego thing, showing Ukraine their puny missiles can't stop mighty Russian Navy etc etc. Even if the Harpoons aren’t up yet (likely) attacking directly into Odessa is insane. The Ukrainians have to have a bunch of arty around not to mention ATGMs. Orcs now have the port in Mariupol don't they? They might stage a heroic landing/assault in Mariupol, claim to have conquered the city, declare a "great victory over the Nazis" and have it done by May 9... Weak, and obviously transparently a hollow victory, but quite Russian, and would play well at home. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:08:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: I'm pretty sure they have taken russia's best shot right now. Everything from here on out is lower quality, and sinking fast. I wish that was true, but no, they havent got their best shot yet. The best shot will effect you directly and we dont want that. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:09:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Can Ukraine withstand total war with Russia? They've done really great on a limited basis for the first six weeks. But can they survive a total mobilization of all of Russia bent on extermination? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Can Ukraine withstand total war with Russia? They've done really great on a limited basis for the first six weeks. But can they survive a total mobilization of all of Russia bent on extermination? The Russians haven't been limiting their attacks on Ukraine. They've been largely beaten. If the west continues to supply more of the weapons they currently are using and add to that some more capable ones (and heavy artillery, tanks, aircraft, ASMs, SAMs, etc.) then not only will they survive a total mobilization of Russia, they'll exterminate Russia's ability to wage conventional war. As to whether Russia will eventually capitulate or not before then, that remains to be seen. Even if Russia withdraws completely from Ukrainian territory, including Crimea, their economy is still toast. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:11:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: I wish that was true, but no, they havent got their best shot yet. The best shot will effect you directly and we dont want that. Nah, nukes are for pussies that want to commit suicide. Putin pushes the button, and any future he or his children had is over, |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:13:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: The Russians haven't been limiting their attacks on Ukraine. They've been largely beaten. If the west continues to supply more of the weapons they currently are using and add to that some more capable ones (and heavy artillery, tanks, aircraft, ASMs, SAMs, etc.) then not only will they survive a total mobilization of Russia, they'll exterminate Russia's ability to wage conventional war. As to whether Russia will eventually capitulate or not before then, that remains to be seen. Even if Russia withdraws completely from Ukrainian territory, including Crimea, their economy is still toast. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Can Ukraine withstand total war with Russia? They've done really great on a limited basis for the first six weeks. But can they survive a total mobilization of all of Russia bent on extermination? The Russians haven't been limiting their attacks on Ukraine. They've been largely beaten. If the west continues to supply more of the weapons they currently are using and add to that some more capable ones (and heavy artillery, tanks, aircraft, ASMs, SAMs, etc.) then not only will they survive a total mobilization of Russia, they'll exterminate Russia's ability to wage conventional war. As to whether Russia will eventually capitulate or not before then, that remains to be seen. Even if Russia withdraws completely from Ukrainian territory, including Crimea, their economy is still toast. Russian leadership will eaither be assassintaed or they will use a nuke. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:15:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: How would one know for sure? I agree that's something that should not be on any warship. Dumb move if it's true Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By sawgunner73: Originally Posted By M-1975: Maybe not a nuke, but: https://www.businessinsider.com/sunk-russia-warship-may-have-carried-holy-relic-on-board-2022-4 What brainiac of the Russian Orthodox Church thought it a good idea to put a holy relic, much less a piece of the true Cross, on a warship? It’s not. It’s a piece of wood someone found in 1520 and thought he would get famous. How would one know for sure? I agree that's something that should not be on any warship. Dumb move if it's true I apologize in advance but, considering it is Good Friday after all, why should anyone care about a toothpic from the cross when what makes it special is that God forgave your sins and a piece of God's Holy Spirit and the Anointed Savior can now reside in you and give you eternal life? Seems like imperishable life, forgiveness of sins, and peace with God is the real headline here. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:16:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO:
Another one bites the dust If you crunch the numbers they are dropping it from about 260 feet with a rate of 130fps upon impact. I think I’m going to have to rig my quad up to drop a baseball and see how accurate I could be at that distance. Thought about putting some sort of reticle on the landing gear and point the camera down and see if I can see the reticle and if it’s repeatable. 
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:17:30 PM EST
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:17:54 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: Ship was attacked and sunk a couple of weeks ago, but the Captian died today in the hospital. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: Originally Posted By mancow: Originally Posted By mnd6563: Looks like the Russian Navy lost two ship's Captains in the last 24 hours. The Captain of the ship hit in port died as well.
Wait what? Ship was attacked and sunk a couple of weeks ago, but the Captian died today in the hospital. Thanks. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:18:07 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: A pair of nukes apparently. According to some of the news stories being published the Moskva had two nukes onboard that could be fitted to the P-1000's Relatives of doomed Moskva crew defy Russian censors with unofficial memorial Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: Originally Posted By xmission: Wouldn't it be something if that Moskva tub sank within Neptune range, and the rusties had to spend a bunch of time trying to recover a nuke from the bottom? A pair of nukes apparently. According to some of the news stories being published the Moskva had two nukes onboard that could be fitted to the P-1000's Meanwhile, Mykhailo Samus, director of a Lviv-based military think-tank; Andriy Klymenko, editor of Black Sea News; and Ukrainian newspaper Defence Express all warned that the Moskva could have been carrying two nuclear warheads designed to be fitted to its P-1000 'carrier killer' missiles. Relatives of doomed Moskva crew defy Russian censors with unofficial memorial Russia potentially fucked themselves internally with their handling of the sinking. They said it sank due to a fire and that everyone was saved, both of which are complete lies. The Russian government cannot admit that Ukraine sank their ship, but a significant percentage of the Russian population probably already suspect the truth. Furthermore, Russia claimed zero casualties while Ukraine now claims “sunk with all hands.” The only reports we have suggest about 50 survivors, which is 90% casualties. This is 5% of their total casualties in just one incident. This will absolutely get out in Russia and MAY actually spark some cognitive dissonance in the populace. Moskva was a prestige unit and it’s not like losing one of several thousand anonymous and expendable T72s. This can’t be swept under the rug and the more evidence there is that the Russian government is grossly misleading the Russian people the better. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:21:08 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Nah, nukes are for pussies that want to commit suicide. Putin pushes the button, and any future he or his children had is over, Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Originally Posted By MattyCR: I wish that was true, but no, they havent got their best shot yet. The best shot will effect you directly and we dont want that. Nah, nukes are for pussies that want to commit suicide. Putin pushes the button, and any future he or his children had is over, Lets not overlook the possibility that other governments second guess going strategic and Russia gets away with using a tac nuke. I wouldnt rule that out AT ALL. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:22:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gunslinger808: Posing for a photo op? Never took it off of safe, so I doubt it was a combat situation. A longer version Trans: How marines from Crimea take Mariupol  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 10:25:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MattyCR: Lets not overlook the possibility that other governments second guess going strategic and Russia gets away with using a tac nuke. I wouldnt rule that out AT ALL. That is precisely why Putin will do it. Because he can, and he knows Brandon won't do a fucking thing about it. |
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