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View Quote Can we just pause for a second and acknowledge that Vitali FUCKING Klitschko is the mayor? Awesome |
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Originally Posted By GlockZen:
Lets hope its true. View Quote |
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Pretty sure that was a distant explosion on the live stream. Daylight....so it begins
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG View Quote Dallas is doing the same. |
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Originally Posted By dillydilly: Lots of Ukrainian immigrants live in Cincinnati and the general Ohio area. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By dillydilly: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG Lots of Ukrainian immigrants live in Cincinnati and the general Ohio area. I knew we had some sizable Russian population areas but not Ukranian. Then again, I try to avoid the city proper as much as possible. |
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Originally Posted By jkitchen: Besides the nukes I'm really overestimated Russia after seeing this. The US would have them beat in a couple weeks at most. View Quote I think after seeing this, in a conventional war the US would absolutely rape the Russians. Just the F-22 and F-35 alone along with our intelligence gathering capabilities would damn near win the war alone. All of those tanks and IFVs are threatening if you don’t have much of an Air Force. With air superiority gained, they all become targets. |
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By cpermd: Are these numbers correct? NATO has 4.5 million troops vs 850,000 Russians NATO has over 1 billion population vs 144 million Russia NATO spends over $1 trillion per year on defense vs $62 billion for Russia NATO has a GDP of over $44 trillion vs $1.4 trillion Russia Russia's economy is smaller than Canada's $1.6 trillion NATO and Russia both have nukes Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. Russia isn't in a strong position. Population size dwindling rapidly, overall economy numbers not so good. Putin needs a quick victory because he cannot afford a long war. However, I don't think that Ukraine can either. As far as NATO jumping in, this will likely take a very long time, like the last time they intervened (Yugoslavia?), but only after the whole world put enough pressure. People were dying in droves, but they did not care. Also, how did Putin's "adventures" in Georgia play out? No one wants accountability. It's a CYA, grandstanding and posturing kabuki theater. |
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Pumpthosenumbersup.gif View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By GlockZen:
Lets hope its true. If they're really heading into Kiev, where a whole bunch of civilians were just given rifles, I'm sure the blood will flow soon enough. Now, the question is, if they start taking potshots from locals, how heavy handed do the Russians get in retaliation? |
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Originally Posted By realwar: This is apparently the jet of the ace Ukraine pilot nicknamed "The Ghost of Kyiv" who downed SIX Russian aircraft during the first day of fighting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSjbr6qhGPA https://preview.redd.it/o8op4t01mvj81.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c122974fec24735f70c89eca6f66dc925377ac3b Video View Quote The Liberation of Gracemeria starting playing in my head when I watched that and I actually got a little choked up |
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So when will Fo dog and or Fo rooster start up? It’s not real till one of them sounds off.
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord: Dallas did that too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/D8F73367-543A-407F-BAE9-012BAF73D530_jpe-2292303.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By thesilvercord: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG Dallas did that too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/D8F73367-543A-407F-BAE9-012BAF73D530_jpe-2292303.JPG Very cool! A much more impressive cityscape. |
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Originally Posted By feetpiece: I bet more people get shot tonight in Ohio than Ukraine View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By feetpiece: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG I bet more people get shot tonight in Ohio than Ukraine Not going to bet against that. |
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Remember when we were all talking about how long it would take Russia to get to Kyiv and it's not happening, well that was 2 days ago.
Feels like a long time, but it's shocking how fast Russia has pulled this off. |
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What have the Romans ever done for us?
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redandblackattack (@redanblacattack) February 25, 2022 |
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"The Ghost of Kyiv" is going to be a bigger legend than the infamous Colonel Toom of North Vietnam's Air Force. He supposedly had 13 air to air victories over U.S. pilots, but was eventually shot down and killed by Duke Cunningham and Willie Driscoll on May 10, 1972. Most people now think "Toom" never existed and was actually a combination of several other pilots, who were also skilled, but probably a lesser rank than a colonel. Mythical stories like these have seemed to exist within every war that ever been fought. I think people have some sort of need to believe things like these, real or not. And I admit, it is a compelling story.
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I stand with Ukraine. Fuck Putin! And fuck Russia!
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Originally Posted By GlockZen: SWIFT cuts Russia out of the ability to transact in the international banking system. The impact would be felt at the business level, it would crush their GDP hard. We did this to Iran. View Quote Iran didn't have China backing them up. Russia can survive a LONG time with the support of Russia. If we sanction China, then we screw ourselves. |
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Originally Posted By Naporter: If they're really heading into Kiev, where a whole bunch of civilians were just given rifles, I'm sure the blood will flow soon enough. Now, the question is, if they start taking potshots from locals, how heavy handed do the Russians get in retaliation? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Naporter: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By GlockZen:
Lets hope its true. If they're really heading into Kiev, where a whole bunch of civilians were just given rifles, I'm sure the blood will flow soon enough. Now, the question is, if they start taking potshots from locals, how heavy handed do the Russians get in retaliation? Cannot imagine being a local without any proper training in high stress situations. Mag changes for a guy with average training becomes another beast when you have rounds overhead. Bless every one of them! |
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Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. View Quote Germany: 266 active tanks France: 222 active tanks UK: 227 active tanks USA: 2,500 Russia: 2,800 So it's not that NATO is weak per se, but that the Europeans have neglected to have any significant ground component that could challenge an invasion like Putin is doing in Ukraine. |
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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp: Remember when we were all talking about how long it would take Russia to get to Kyiv and it's not happening, well that was 2 days ago. Feels like a long time, but it's shocking how fast Russia has pulled this off. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By GlockZen:
Lets hope its true. View Quote |
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Interesting interview with a Ukrainian pastor:https://www.facebook.com/1170390209/videos/474112294351685/
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God's grace is not cheap; it's free.
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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp: Remember when we were all talking about how long it would take Russia to get to Kyiv and it's not happening, well that was 2 days ago. Feels like a long time, but it's shocking how fast Russia has pulled this off. View Quote Depends how you look at it. I'm shocked they aren't already there given what we know was sitting on the border weeks ago. |
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Originally Posted By Action45: Can we just pause for a second and acknowledge that Vitali FUCKING Klitschko is the mayor? Awesome View Quote
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Arty incomming
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What have the Romans ever done for us?
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Originally Posted By Naporter: If they're really heading into Kiev, where a whole bunch of civilians were just given rifles, I'm sure the blood will flow soon enough. Now, the question is, if they start taking potshots from locals, how heavy handed do the Russians get in retaliation? View Quote I bet there is a fuck ton of IED's waiting. |
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View Quote That. Is. AWESOME! |
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Originally Posted By jkitchen: Besides the nukes I'm really overestimated Russia after seeing this. The US would have them beat in a couple weeks at most. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jkitchen: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. Besides the nukes I'm really overestimated Russia after seeing this. The US would have them beat in a couple weeks at most. Several other invaders (Napoleon and Hitler come to mind) also thought the same. No one wins a nuclear war, hence no one started one yet. So, conventional war, I'd be very cautious about "easy victory" prognostics. |
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Originally Posted By CTAC: Pretty sure that was a distant explosion on the live stream. Daylight....so it begins View Quote Sounded like a few 8:26 - 8:27 pst Sometimes livestreams like that create ominous sounding audio though, but it's just random noises. *Experience: week of watching that volcano live stream. |
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Parma has a huge Ukrainian population View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: I knew we had some sizable Russian population areas but not Ukranian. Then again, I try to avoid the city proper as much as possible. The things you learn! |
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Originally Posted By Rossi: Several other invaders (Napoleon and Hitler come to mind) also thought the same. No one wins a nuclear war, hence no one started one yet. So, conventional war, I'd be very cautious about "easy victory" prognostics. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By jkitchen: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. Besides the nukes I'm really overestimated Russia after seeing this. The US would have them beat in a couple weeks at most. Several other invaders (Napoleon and Hitler come to mind) also thought the same. No one wins a nuclear war, hence no one started one yet. So, conventional war, I'd be very cautious about "easy victory" prognostics. The "easy victory over the Russians" mistake has been repeated over and over throughout history. Russia is still there. |
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Originally Posted By happycynic: The problem is a lack of heavy divisions due to everyone deciding that the Russians would never do something like this, and we should turn every army into COIN. Germany: 266 active tanks France: 222 active tanks UK: 227 active tanks USA: 2,500 Russia: 2,800 So it's not that NATO is weak per se, but that the Europeans have neglected to have any significant ground component that could challenge an invasion like Putin is doing in Ukraine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By happycynic: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. Germany: 266 active tanks France: 222 active tanks UK: 227 active tanks USA: 2,500 Russia: 2,800 So it's not that NATO is weak per se, but that the Europeans have neglected to have any significant ground component that could challenge an invasion like Putin is doing in Ukraine. 'Member the Peace Dividend? I 'member... |
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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp: Remember when we were all talking about how long it would take Russia to get to Kyiv and it's not happening, well that was 2 days ago. Feels like a long time, but it's shocking how fast Russia has pulled this off. View Quote Indeed. The Ukrainians in general didn't take the open source intel and likely classified intel given to them seriously. As an early poster said.. Ukrainians are a passive people. Seems like he's generally correct. Mobilized way too late and didn't redeploy their fielded forces where it made sense. I thought by now we'd see more Javelins, NLAWS, and Stingers used too |
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Originally Posted By happycynic: The problem is a lack of heavy divisions due to everyone deciding that the Russians would never do something like this, and we should turn every army into COIN. Germany: 266 active tanks France: 222 active tanks UK: 227 active tanks USA: 2,500 Russia: 2,800 So it's not that NATO is weak per se, but that the Europeans have neglected to have any significant ground component that could challenge an invasion like Putin is doing in Ukraine. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By happycynic: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. Germany: 266 active tanks France: 222 active tanks UK: 227 active tanks USA: 2,500 Russia: 2,800 So it's not that NATO is weak per se, but that the Europeans have neglected to have any significant ground component that could challenge an invasion like Putin is doing in Ukraine. The Russian performance is so lackluster so far that this event could be used to argue for cuts in military spending. |
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What have the Romans ever done for us?
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With all of the cell phones I am surprised we are not seeing more footage.
With tanks and APC rolling in I would think we would be seeing some burning after getting hit with the javelins we supplied. FOX News just pissed me off big time. Shannon Bream is someone that I like but Bret Beir (sp) is a super douche. They were just making a joke about how Bill Hemmer does the board better. FYI the board is basically an electronic board that shows where Russia is attacking. That they would think this is funny is disgusting. |
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Originally Posted By thesilvercord:
View Quote Reports are that I have a 12” penis….AROUND. |
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Originally Posted By SheltiePimp: Remember when we were all talking about how long it would take Russia to get to Kyiv and it's not happening, well that was 2 days ago. Feels like a long time, but it's shocking how fast Russia has pulled this off. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By M-1975:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMY4fFlXMAApFH1?format=jpg&name=small View Quote Many sunflowers were planted today. |
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Bad things happen in isolated instances in an armed populace, horrific things happen to a disarmed populace. 20th Century Democide https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/20TH.HTM
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Originally Posted By CTM1: With all of the cell phones I am surprised we are not seeing more footage. With tanks and APC rolling in I would think we would be seeing some burning after getting hit with the javelins we supplied. FOX News just pissed me off big time. Shannon Bream is someone that I like but Bret Beir (sp) is a super douche. They were just making a joke about how Bill Hemmer does the board better. FYI the board is basically an electronic board that shows where Russia is attacking. That they would think this is funny is disgusting. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Veccio: I don't think so. For the amount of troops Russia committed and the fact they had Ukraine surrounded on 3 sides with 6 months of prep work, so far it's looking like a bunch of Russian buffoonery. View Quote It’s only Day 1. There’s 150K troops, not all of which have advanced. |
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