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Posted: 11/4/2022 4:17:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Hmm. There’s a lighted building right there. They have 500 pissed-off people without quarters. It seems they have a solution at hand. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 4:18:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: I wonder how the winter cold will effect the drones. Seems like it'd zap the battery. Not to mention icing Especially the moped drones. aren't they gas powered? Hopefully they're carb'd.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: I wonder how the winter cold will effect the drones. Seems like it'd zap the battery. Not to mention icing Especially the moped drones. aren't they gas powered? Hopefully they're carb'd.. Originally Posted By planemaker: Extreme cold makes most drone batteries unchargeable. You can warm them up indoors to a point where you can charge them but you better get them on the drone and pulling power out of them quickly to keep them warm once you take them outside. Cold also generally reduces the capacity of the packs. There's a pretty good likelihood the Shithead-136s are using carb'd engines based on what we've seen in the pictures. That would mean they'd probably not fire up on launch since it appears from the pictures we've seen they can't run the engines in the launcher beforehand. There may be a mixture control on the carb to account for that. That may be one of the reasons the Iranians have people on the ground there (that, and the rooskies are "f**king stupid".) It uses a carb’d engine  Attached File |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 4:18:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By johnspark: Our lawyer in Split sent us these pictures today. The USS H.W. Bush is in Split, Croatia. It's been quit a spectacle she says. Anyway, just thought I'd share since it was mentioned earlier in the thread. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/272379/USS_HWBushSplit_jpg-2587421.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/272379/USSHWBushSplit2_jpg-2587422.JPG Cool pics! |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 4:19:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I have no idea what the hell they are. The State dept. was talking about "evacuating" the 'US funded' bio labs in Ukraine. For all I know it could mean we gave them $500 total. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Cincinnatus: "US bio labs in Ukraine" sounds dishonest. I have no idea what the hell they are. The State dept. was talking about "evacuating" the 'US funded' bio labs in Ukraine. For all I know it could mean we gave them $500 total. The first rule of information operations is if you want to be seen as a “white information” source, you tell the truth, you tell the truth, and when the truth charges, you continue to tell the truth |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 4:24:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74HC: I could be in Ukraine and feel like home in California with rolling blackouts. Jon Bernthal spoke with Wali (the Canadian sniper) on 11/2. It's a good listen. I never heard he went back after leaving in May, but he has. https://open.spotify.com/episode/6ywfFbgsG3xnQJyeSVl46e |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 4:26:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Hell no!! That doesn't work; once Ukraine takes back a village and territory they do automatic background checks on all subjects! Birth certificates, passports, etc, proof of residency. If you don't have those documents you are filtered. Ukraine has to do this with every subject they liberate, Russian soldiers cannot just blend in.. thus has been covered in length in articles and here. The Russians that are changing into civilian clothes do plan to fight and ambush. 100 percent. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad: Originally Posted By _disconnector_: Originally Posted By klinc: Russia is going to make going in there as ugly as possible. Practice\Section I. According to the US Field Manual (1976), the use of civilian clothing by troops to conceal their military character during battle is an act for which a combatant would lose his right to be treated as a prisoner of war.
Hell no!! That doesn't work; once Ukraine takes back a village and territory they do automatic background checks on all subjects! Birth certificates, passports, etc, proof of residency. If you don't have those documents you are filtered. Ukraine has to do this with every subject they liberate, Russian soldiers cannot just blend in.. thus has been covered in length in articles and here. The Russians that are changing into civilian clothes do plan to fight and ambush. 100 percent. There’s probably a dastardly political aspect to. Either to film the UA killing “civilians” who are actually Russian army, or to force the UA to fight indiscriminately and actually kill civilians that the Russians claimed to be “protecting”. Probably the latter. If there’s a way around it, IMO it’s to infiltrate small teams, learn who is who and where, and mop them up from inside. Locate Russian clandestine team locations and vaporize them with HIMARS without getting into a slugging match amongst civilians where you don’t know who is who. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 4:28:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Extreme cold makes most drone batteries unchargeable. You can warm them up indoors to a point where you can charge them but you better get them on the drone and pulling power out of them quickly to keep them warm once you take them outside. Cold also generally reduces the capacity of the packs. There's a pretty good likelihood the Shithead-136s are using carb'd engines based on what we've seen in the pictures. That would mean they'd probably not fire up on launch since it appears from the pictures we've seen they can't run the engines in the launcher beforehand. There may be a mixture control on the carb to account for that. That may be one of the reasons the Iranians have people on the ground there (that, and the rooskies are "f**king stupid".) I got a couple 40 packs of hand warmers headed over. Wonder if I should tell them to try that. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 4:33:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I dont see why it is so hard to believe in BOTH: that Ukraine is worthy of our full support AND that Joe Biden (and his family) is a totally corrupt grifter of the worst order and anything they say or do has to be viewed with suspicion. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 4:37:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stgdz:
Crazy how much the Netherlands is doing for such a small country. Must be the wooden shoes |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 4:45:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/4/2022 4:53:06 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/4/2022 5:12:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: How about taping a hand warmer to drone batteries? Will that over heat them? I got a couple 40 packs of hand warmers headed over. Wonder if I should tell them to try that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By planemaker: Extreme cold makes most drone batteries unchargeable. You can warm them up indoors to a point where you can charge them but you better get them on the drone and pulling power out of them quickly to keep them warm once you take them outside. Cold also generally reduces the capacity of the packs. There's a pretty good likelihood the Shithead-136s are using carb'd engines based on what we've seen in the pictures. That would mean they'd probably not fire up on launch since it appears from the pictures we've seen they can't run the engines in the launcher beforehand. There may be a mixture control on the carb to account for that. That may be one of the reasons the Iranians have people on the ground there (that, and the rooskies are "f**king stupid".) I got a couple 40 packs of hand warmers headed over. Wonder if I should tell them to try that. It depends on how warm it is outside and how much current is being pulled out of the batteries. If it's super cold out (like well below freezing), you might get some help from a hand warmer. The issue then is to take it off before you fly since the hand warmer doesn't "buy its way on" in terms of weight vs increased battery temp. If you have to take the batteries out of the warm area before you fly, then using the hand warmers to keep the batteries warm might work. Putting the batteries with hand warmers in a styrofoam cooler might also help. I recall somebody that does high-altitude balloon flights putting a hand-warmer in a cooler with the instrumentation to keep the battery warm enough to keep the comm link functioning. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 5:26:06 PM EDT
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Dissection of a Mohajer-6 Iranian combat drone.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-drones-iran-western-technology/32115733.html |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 11/4/2022 5:49:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: I tell folks I have been in many "bio labs" similar to what was in Ukraine. I also tell them there is an agricultural "bio lab" within 200 miles of them. Most likely closer. Agricultural areas have them to keep an eye on what is making livestock and plants sick. They also look for the best ways to stop the sickness, and to prevent it in the future. There is nothing nefarious about making sure the stuff you eat is healthy, and doing your best to keep it that way. I'm kind of glad they are around. An agricultural bio-weapon might be the "best" way to attack Ukraine, if there were a crop not widely produced in Russia or if the Russians could quietly develop a resistant strain for themselves. In college, I cataloged and archived (as in the Indiana Jones warehouse) hundreds of pounds of declassified drawings of our biological warfare manufacturing and other related equipment, from "mosquito sexers" and "high-performance aircraft delivery systems" (sprayers) down to the ice chest in the cafeteria where the Coca-Cola cooled. This makes all the bio-weapons stories strangely fun for me. My wife just walked in and asked if anything interesting had happened. I said, "There is so little interesting happening, we're talking about the bioweapons labs again." |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 6:03:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Extreme cold makes most drone batteries unchargeable. You can warm them up indoors to a point where you can charge them but you better get them on the drone and pulling power out of them quickly to keep them warm once you take them outside. Cold also generally reduces the capacity of the packs. There's a pretty good likelihood the Shithead-136s are using carb'd engines based on what we've seen in the pictures. That would mean they'd probably not fire up on launch since it appears from the pictures we've seen they can't run the engines in the launcher beforehand. There may be a mixture control on the carb to account for that. That may be one of the reasons the Iranians have people on the ground there (that, and the rooskies are "f**king stupid".) I think carbs are prone to icing. Something about Bernoulli principal. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 6:05:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DPeacher: Are grenade sumps not a thing anymore? It seems to me that having a sump at the bottom of those stairs would be worth the effort. Basically no. And they never were. If you get a grenade in your hole and throw it in the sump you're going to get a wild concussion from that HE in a small space. And while you're unscrambling your brain the bad guys are throwing a couple more grenades in after the first one. Then you die. I have never heard of a first person account of anyone using a grenade sump and living to tell about it. Throw the thing out of your hole and duck, and start tossing grenades back. Your chances are low, but a kicking a frag into a sump is more or less suicidal. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 6:25:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Maybe you misunderstood what I was saying, but yes I agree with you the UA has the advantage. I'm just saying I agree that things will be much harder to hide come winter, thermal detection will be easier, and smaller man portable guided munitions and drones will be more effective. Rolling a SPG out of the treeline for a firemission won't work as well now. Well, the other poster said "I think we're done seeing any major advances for awhile by either side." and you said you agree. I think there will be major advances. They will look different from what we're used to seeing. No Army unit made of people will function as well under adverse weather as they do when it is 72F and sunny. But it affects different units differently. At 30 below zero in Finland, Finnish infantry in 1940 were at maybe 25% efficiency, but they had warmed bunkers, hot food occasionally, and they survived and fought while Russians were at 1% efficiency and dropping to hypothermia. So lack of discipline, training, leadership, equipment can make it advantageous for the Ukrainian to exploit weak Russian conscripts. It is possible artillery and drones could become less effective and hamper the Ukrainians. It is definitely likely tanks will get stuck. I could easily see some hypothermic Russian unit of seven day wonders sitting in their soaken cotton uniforms, when a Ukrainian unit with gore tex and NVGs smokes them at 0300 in a driving rainstorm. If tanks cant maneuver off road I could see some significant gains in the more rural parts of the country where reserves will have difficulty trafficking. It may look infantry-centric with set-piece short gains against weak defenders. And its hard to predict. But there are a lot of good reasons why the Ukrainians will be at a relative advantage in inclement weather; I definitely think they will be more agile and able to discover some winning gameplans before the Russians. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 6:25:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AzSteven: Denmark is stepping up in gratitude for our having accepted DK-Prof into the country Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AzSteven: Originally Posted By stgdz: Crazy how much the Netherlands is doing for such a small country. Must be the wooden shoes Denmark is stepping up in gratitude for our having accepted DK-Prof into the country I thought they paid for that upfront before we'd let him in. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 6:29:49 PM EDT
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Russian propaganda channels:
'OK this winter Europe may be ok with gas but next year Iggy1337 wil freeze to death apparently.' Looks like they are letting go of the freezing to death narrative for now. I cant see the next winter being worse than this as alternative sources are becomming stable. 
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Posted: 11/4/2022 6:48:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CharlieR: Well, the other poster said "I think we're done seeing any major advances for awhile by either side." and you said you agree. I think there will be major advances. They will look different from what we're used to seeing. No Army unit made of people will function as well under adverse weather as they do when it is 72F and sunny. But it affects different units differently. At 30 below zero in Finland, Finnish infantry in 1940 were at maybe 25% efficiency, but they had warmed bunkers, hot food occasionally, and they survived and fought while Russians were at 1% efficiency and dropping to hypothermia. So lack of discipline, training, leadership, equipment can make it advantageous for the Ukrainian to exploit weak Russian conscripts. It is possible artillery and drones could become less effective and hamper the Ukrainians. It is definitely likely tanks will get stuck. I could easily see some hypothermic Russian unit of seven day wonders sitting in their soaken cotton uniforms, when a Ukrainian unit with gore tex and NVGs smokes them at 0300 in a driving rainstorm. If tanks cant maneuver off road I could see some significant gains in the more rural parts of the country where reserves will have difficulty trafficking. It may look infantry-centric with set-piece short gains against weak defenders. And its hard to predict. But there are a lot of good reasons why the Ukrainians will be at a relative advantage in inclement weather; I definitely think they will be more agile and able to discover some winning gameplans before the Russians. Reckon they might transition to rotary wing air cav style fighting? |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 6:50:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: I know some people view it as off topic, but you are 100% correct- what's happening in the information space very much matters to the war effort in a variety of ways. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RolandofGilead: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Maybe we are bordering on off-topic, but what is going on in the information space is very much news, and is worthy of being shared, especially personal encounters and how things are developing. I know some people view it as off topic, but you are 100% correct- what's happening in the information space very much matters to the war effort in a variety of ways. Just speaking for myself, it doesn't bother me if the conversation strays a bit when news slows down. There are a lot of related discussions to be had. It's just when news picks up and we're getting 10+ pages per day that the more OT stuff or arguing from GDers becomes a burden. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 6:52:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2022/11/04/russian-videos-reveal-new-details-of-loitering-munitions/?sh=18d6e7c5dbce Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By stgdz: Any ideas on why we are seeing so many Russian lancets now instead of at the outset? https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2022/11/04/russian-videos-reveal-new-details-of-loitering-munitions/?sh=18d6e7c5dbce A series of videos released by the Russian Ministry of Defense reveal some interesting features of this new and dangerous weapon. "Lancets may not have been employed in large numbers earlier because Russia's initial invasion plans and the opening weeks and months of the war did not anticipate massive Ukrainian resistance and therefore the MOD may not have placed enough orders for these to be manufactured in large numbers," Samuel Bendett, an expert on the Russian defense scene and adviser to the CNA and CNAS think tanks, told me. That now seems to have changed, though as we will see there are questions about the actual numbers. Made by a subsidiary of the Kalashnikov concern, the Lancet 3 weighs about thirty pounds, and has a distinctive profile thanks to its X-shaped wings. The weapon used is claimed to be a new, upgraded version of the Lancet-3 with an eleven-pound warhead compared to the original seven-pound one, and is distinguished by a larger wingspan. The gunboat video gives allows us to estimate size compared to the 4.8 metre width of the boat the wingspan looks to be about 2.4 meters, compared to one meter for the original). The videos show Lancet strikes on a variety of targets, including S-300 air defense systems, tanks, artillery, trucks, self-propelled howitzers and radar systems, even a gunboat. The volume of such videos released in a few days suggests a propaganda push to persuade people that Russia has at least one weapon that works. 
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Posted: 11/4/2022 6:59:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: If they do, I believe they forfeit all POW protections, and can just be executed when captured. Not a legal expert, but I think those are the rules for non uniformed combatants. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By AROKIE: ... The Russians that are changing into civilian clothes do plan to fight and ambush. 100 percent. If they do, I believe they forfeit all POW protections, and can just be executed when captured. Not a legal expert, but I think those are the rules for non uniformed combatants. I think they can be punished as unlawful combatants pursuant to the martial judicial processes and laws of the country in question, which can ostensibly include death as a penalty, but I'm not sure their lives are automatically forfeit. We have a lot of military folks here, so I'm sure someone has the answer and can chime in. I don't think Ukraine allows the death penalty, but I'm not sure about that one, either. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 7:04:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: I dont either, mental illness or very low IQ, weak thought impulse, etc.. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By stone-age: Originally Posted By AROKIE: the GD clowns will shit all over this guy... RIP "KILO"..  I honestly don't know wtf is wrong with people in GD. I dont either, mental illness or very low IQ, weak thought impulse, etc.. It wasn’t so bad 2007 when I started reading in this board. It’s devolved significantly in last 4 years though |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 7:05:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: There biggest thing seems to be the claim that money spent on Ukraine takes money away from the border wall. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By BlackHoleSon: I seriously don't get it. I've seen others here mention getting them. Is it the same type of ppl clamoring our money should be spent elsewhere? If it is almost humorous that they aren't doing shit to improve anything yet will keyboard commando threaten others just for believing something they don't. "I'm not doing shit yet fuck you" |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 7:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: I think they can be punished as unlawful combatants pursuant to the martial judicial processes and laws of the country in question, which can ostensibly include death as a penalty, but I'm not sure their lives are automatically forfeit. We have a lot of military folks here, so I'm sure someone has the answer and can chime in. I don't think Ukraine allows the death penalty, but I'm not sure about that one, either. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigstick61: Originally Posted By DK-Prof: Originally Posted By AROKIE: ... The Russians that are changing into civilian clothes do plan to fight and ambush. 100 percent. If they do, I believe they forfeit all POW protections, and can just be executed when captured. Not a legal expert, but I think those are the rules for non uniformed combatants. I think they can be punished as unlawful combatants pursuant to the martial judicial processes and laws of the country in question, which can ostensibly include death as a penalty, but I'm not sure their lives are automatically forfeit. We have a lot of military folks here, so I'm sure someone has the answer and can chime in. I don't think Ukraine allows the death penalty, but I'm not sure about that one, either. Ukraine is still part of the Council of Europe and can use the death penalty IF in it is in a state of war AND it is based on law AND the Secretary General of the Council of Europe is informed. So basically a 3 element test for legality but just lining mobiki up and mag dumping on them is off the menu. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 7:13:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NE223: Sounds like a creditable source  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NE223: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By stone-age: I honestly don't know wtf is wrong with people in GD.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxLj2vgxBW0Sounds like a creditable source He has a lot of viewers….used to listen to him myself before he drank the Koolaid and decided throwing Ukrainians under the bus was a small price to pay to hurt the Democrats. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 7:20:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: It's not just the source. Its the insults and lack of any factual stuff passed the incident. Much of the stuff he says about is afterwards is just made up with the intent of being as insulting as possible. When videos like that are combined with others such as Redacted it pushes the viewers into believing the BS and thinking these insults and such are the norm now. Its not one single thing but a high volume of things. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By NE223: Sounds like a creditable source Redacted, And folks like him are consciously throating Putin. Salty and others like him….the “Red Pill” movement is full of them….have let their justified hatred of liberal fascists blind them to the truth about Ukraine and now they are useful idiots who would be amongst the first people to be shot if Putin somehow took over here. I find them a huge disappointment, tbh. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 7:35:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: How about taping a hand warmer to drone batteries? Will that over heat them? I got a couple 40 packs of hand warmers headed over. Wonder if I should tell them to try that. When I worked in Alaska that's exactly how we kept batteries from dying in far more extreme conditions than they'll ever see. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 7:40:23 PM EDT
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 CAPTURED RUSSIAN SOLDIER ADMITS - 'HIMARS' WAS A NIGHTMARE FOR US || 2022 |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 7:42:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cobradriver]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Dissection of a Mohajer-6 Iranian combat drone. https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-drones-iran-western-technology/32115733.html Just an FYI...The Rotax 912IS that showed up in these birds have most likely been stolen. Somewhere north of 100 of these engines are known to have been stolen. Nobody really knew who was doing the thefts all over Europe and actually a few in the US until they found the engines in the drones... ETA....I'm referencing the Mohajer-6 drone.... |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 7:42:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: I honestly don't get how it's even possible to have that bad a take on something unless you're purposely ignoring multiple open sources of information and sequestering yourself into some bizarre echo chamber (a feedback loop of sorts) or you don't really believe it and are purposely distorting actual news to your own ends, no different than the MSM, just the other side of the same coin. Notice how his only source in that video is Jack Posobiec (an extremely flawed source in his own right) and the spin he's putting on the story, which Salty then goes on to spin further, which will no doubt be spun even further by those following Salty. In my opinion, Jack Posobiec, Tim Pool, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Ian Miles Cheong, Lara Logan, and some others are all what I personally consider "grifter right" and put zero stock in, even though they may be saying things I agree with (in Logan's case, I think she's suffering from honest to God mental illness). Anything these sudden new converts to "Conservatism" say should be taken worth a massive dose of salt. Just because they say some things you agree with and confirm your biases, does not make them infallible or even mean they're really "on your side". There are a lot of other, far more reliable right mided sources, that have been preaching Conservatism for decades to put your stock in than these people who do nothing but feed confirmation bias and distort it to their (or someone else's) ends. Jones is a great example. During the Bush years it was all Bidabears/Skull N Bones tinfoil and over the course of the Obama years he morphed that into "1776 shall commence again" to keep the grift going since he saw where the winds were blowing. Salty has identified a market and is just trying to put himself in that orbit to cash in, IMHO. And from his sub/view count, while he's not rolling in YouTube dough like someone like PewDiePie, he's no doubt doing pretty well (as in 6 figures) off it. Just as the loony Left sits and forms their worldview/opinion on nothing but circle jerking MSM sources, the loony Right forms theirs based off nothing but circle jerking idiots whose only qualifier is owning a webcam and having a YT channel because "mUh InDuHpEnDuNt NeWz SoUrCe!11!!" FYI, I'm a hardcore Conservatarian and I don't use the "loony Right" label lightly or in remotely the same manner as the Left does (i.e. referring to anyone to the right of FDR). I would also mention there are a lot of great right leaning YTers and independent "jurnos" who are honest in their Conservative/libertarian messaging I wouldn't consider "grifter right" like the group I mention. But, you cannot honestly look at say something as basic as numbers of KIA on each side, even factoring in Russian sources, and in any way claim "Ukraine is losing" unless you're either A) stupid, B) have an agenda, or C) both. On a side note, ignoring Salty's 2+2=cat take on the event, I wonder if I went and looked if I'd find any outrage from Jack or Salty over these weapons in a children's setting: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Russian-Kindergartners-taught-how-to-use-AK-47s/5-2595015/ Bet not.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By 7empest: Originally Posted By m35ben: They listen to stuff like this and try to copy it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxLj2vgxBW0I am going to have to start smoking meth just to wash the stupid out of my head just from 30 seconds of that video.. I hope you are happy creating another meth addict!  There's a lot of crossover in followers with Salty on some of the Conservative/Libertarian leaning pop culture YT channels I follow. I've watched him before. I think he's at least partially why a lot of those YTers I do follow (who have smaller channels) have some bad/misinformed takes on this war. His problem is he just sounds stupid and low information in general on most things, even if it actually is the correct position. Trying to think of a good Leftist/Liberal analogue but there's so many it's frankly hard to pick. I've never been a fan of his."I'm not rooting for anyone over there. But Ukraine is evil! Muh crossdressing Ukrainian generals..." But holy fuck That garbage is spreading too I honestly don't get how it's even possible to have that bad a take on something unless you're purposely ignoring multiple open sources of information and sequestering yourself into some bizarre echo chamber (a feedback loop of sorts) or you don't really believe it and are purposely distorting actual news to your own ends, no different than the MSM, just the other side of the same coin. Notice how his only source in that video is Jack Posobiec (an extremely flawed source in his own right) and the spin he's putting on the story, which Salty then goes on to spin further, which will no doubt be spun even further by those following Salty. In my opinion, Jack Posobiec, Tim Pool, Tucker Carlson, Alex Jones, Ian Miles Cheong, Lara Logan, and some others are all what I personally consider "grifter right" and put zero stock in, even though they may be saying things I agree with (in Logan's case, I think she's suffering from honest to God mental illness). Anything these sudden new converts to "Conservatism" say should be taken worth a massive dose of salt. Just because they say some things you agree with and confirm your biases, does not make them infallible or even mean they're really "on your side". There are a lot of other, far more reliable right mided sources, that have been preaching Conservatism for decades to put your stock in than these people who do nothing but feed confirmation bias and distort it to their (or someone else's) ends. Jones is a great example. During the Bush years it was all Bidabears/Skull N Bones tinfoil and over the course of the Obama years he morphed that into "1776 shall commence again" to keep the grift going since he saw where the winds were blowing. Salty has identified a market and is just trying to put himself in that orbit to cash in, IMHO. And from his sub/view count, while he's not rolling in YouTube dough like someone like PewDiePie, he's no doubt doing pretty well (as in 6 figures) off it. Just as the loony Left sits and forms their worldview/opinion on nothing but circle jerking MSM sources, the loony Right forms theirs based off nothing but circle jerking idiots whose only qualifier is owning a webcam and having a YT channel because "mUh InDuHpEnDuNt NeWz SoUrCe!11!!" FYI, I'm a hardcore Conservatarian and I don't use the "loony Right" label lightly or in remotely the same manner as the Left does (i.e. referring to anyone to the right of FDR). I would also mention there are a lot of great right leaning YTers and independent "jurnos" who are honest in their Conservative/libertarian messaging I wouldn't consider "grifter right" like the group I mention. But, you cannot honestly look at say something as basic as numbers of KIA on each side, even factoring in Russian sources, and in any way claim "Ukraine is losing" unless you're either A) stupid, B) have an agenda, or C) both. On a side note, ignoring Salty's 2+2=cat take on the event, I wonder if I went and looked if I'd find any outrage from Jack or Salty over these weapons in a children's setting: https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Russian-Kindergartners-taught-how-to-use-AK-47s/5-2595015/ Bet not. If I had the power, I’d reintroduce rifle marksmanship classes and small bore leagues to schools. The Commiecrats killed that all for a reason. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 7:46:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cobradriver: Just an FYI...The Rotax 912IS that showed up in these birds have most likely been stolen. Somewhere north of 100 of these engines are known to have been stolen. Nobody really knew who was doing the thefts all over Europe and actually a few in the US until they found the engines in the drones... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cobradriver: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Dissection of a Mohajer-6 Iranian combat drone. https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-drones-iran-western-technology/32115733.html Just an FYI...The Rotax 912IS that showed up in these birds have most likely been stolen. Somewhere north of 100 of these engines are known to have been stolen. Nobody really knew who was doing the thefts all over Europe and actually a few in the US until they found the engines in the drones... A very good point, there's a few components of various Russian weapons systems that have a similar story. Cameras stolen from Europe to use as the video system on some Russian drones is one recent example. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 7:52:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Wait... You guys aren't getting a paycheck from Zman like me?  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By m35ben: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: We had a new commercial tenant stop by yesterday I had to give some paperwork too and he saw my multicam hat and asked if I served, I said no I just like the hat. He said he served and had full totes of old gear if I needed anything and I said "I don't, but I am collecting and shipping stuff to soldiers in Ukraine if you have anything you want to get rid of. My wife is from there and her whole family still lives there." Within 30 seconds, he had mentioned "Zelensky comedian, what's that about" and "but did you hear of the biolabs" and "we have no idea what the truth is". We talked for about 15 minutes, and I could tell he wasn't very informed of the day to day evolution of the war. It seemed he had the illusion of it was like the GWOT, with FOBs and such. I had to explain this is much more like a WWI or WWII type, as there is a very well defined general front line. I tried to not address the political stuff as much as the humanitarian angle. People are forming their opinions with little or no knowledge outside of what Posobiec or Tucker say, talk about that stuff with authority, but then claim "we have no idea what the truth is". Edit: also, good post Ryan_Ruck Wait... You guys aren't getting a paycheck from Zman like me? Wait…..you mean I could actually get paid to trigger puffers with NAFO memes? Who do we contact? |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:00:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: A very good point, there's a few components of various Russian weapons systems that have a similar story. Cameras stolen from Europe to use as the video system on some Russian drones is one recent example. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Cobradriver: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Dissection of a Mohajer-6 Iranian combat drone. https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-drones-iran-western-technology/32115733.html Just an FYI...The Rotax 912IS that showed up in these birds have most likely been stolen. Somewhere north of 100 of these engines are known to have been stolen. Nobody really knew who was doing the thefts all over Europe and actually a few in the US until they found the engines in the drones... A very good point, there's a few components of various Russian weapons systems that have a similar story. Cameras stolen from Europe to use as the video system on some Russian drones is one recent example. It's kinda crazy how a country with all that oil and African gold are reduced to this. Seems like they would of bought something better from their Chinese friends before this started. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:10:10 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74HC: Blaming the lack of a border wall on Ukraine aid is how some who support the demorat party but are at odds with some of their policies.
Crowd eats it up |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:11:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: It's kinda crazy how a country with all that oil and African gold are reduced to this. Seems like they would of bought something better from their Chinese friends before this started. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Cobradriver: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Dissection of a Mohajer-6 Iranian combat drone. https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-drones-iran-western-technology/32115733.html Just an FYI...The Rotax 912IS that showed up in these birds have most likely been stolen. Somewhere north of 100 of these engines are known to have been stolen. Nobody really knew who was doing the thefts all over Europe and actually a few in the US until they found the engines in the drones... A very good point, there's a few components of various Russian weapons systems that have a similar story. Cameras stolen from Europe to use as the video system on some Russian drones is one recent example. It's kinda crazy how a country with all that oil and African gold are reduced to this. Seems like they would of bought something better from their Chinese friends before this started. lol, I guess they really thought commercial grade chips and GPS units and Canon camera's was mostly good enough.
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:14:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DonKey153: When I worked in Alaska that's exactly how we kept batteries from dying in far more extreme conditions than they'll ever see. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:20:18 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol, I guess they really thought commercial grade chips and GPS units and Canon camera's was mostly good enough. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Bama_Rebel: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By Cobradriver: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Dissection of a Mohajer-6 Iranian combat drone. https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-russia-drones-iran-western-technology/32115733.html Just an FYI...The Rotax 912IS that showed up in these birds have most likely been stolen. Somewhere north of 100 of these engines are known to have been stolen. Nobody really knew who was doing the thefts all over Europe and actually a few in the US until they found the engines in the drones... A very good point, there's a few components of various Russian weapons systems that have a similar story. Cameras stolen from Europe to use as the video system on some Russian drones is one recent example. It's kinda crazy how a country with all that oil and African gold are reduced to this. Seems like they would of bought something better from their Chinese friends before this started. lol, I guess they really thought commercial grade chips and GPS units and Canon camera's was mostly good enough. Guess it's good enough fighting third world countries. Technology has always been their Achilles heel. As soon as the stingers showed up in Afghanistan they wanted to withdraw. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:21:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bama_Rebel: It's kinda crazy how a country with all that oil and African gold are reduced to this. Seems like they would of bought something better from their Chinese friends before this started. The gold was for the kleptocrats, not the state treasury. Much the same probably happens with most of the oil revenues. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:22:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
Crowd eats it up C u next Tuesday and the Wednesday after that |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:27:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gentlemanfarmer]
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 Attached FileSo this went out this AM vis Meest and FedEx, part 2 of 3. Not sure exactly what’s there but lots of heavy boxes of ECWS gear, minus 60 boots and few other odds and ends (that’s going next week). Destination mostly dniprovets-1 and some to other mil units. I’ll post once it gets there. This is from the gear drive a few weeks back. Know your money was spent well, see the US gov fit out a company with same gear for 10k. Love you guys. People on the list for stuff like patches, flags (some have been given already) will be awarded as swag arrives here. Probably a few weeks out, baba is collecting it but usefully comes after first winter fight with Dete. Hasn’t happened yet. Not sure if it’s the lack of snow yet, or the power outages have them getting along for now. Was a little behind schedule because of war grifters BSing us but it on the way!!! Slava Ukraini! Thanks from Mila Americans in Ukraine Foundation |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:30:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
Crowd eats it up Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By 74HC: Blaming the lack of a border wall on Ukraine aid is how some who support the demorat party but are at odds with some of their policies.
Crowd eats it up The "R" ticket is becoming just as weird as the "D" ticket. I don't recall everyone being bat-shit crazy a couple decades ago. I doubt many voters will key in on Ukraine as being a single issue ticket winner or loser though. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:30:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:32:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: https://eurasiantimes.com/us-oks-heavy-attack-drones-for-ukraine-general-atomics/ |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:34:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: https://eurasiantimes.com/us-oks-heavy-attack-drones-for-ukraine-general-atomics/ Hell to the yes, brimstones already there. How many? Is it like 8 brimstones or something like that. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:35:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
Crowd eats it up |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:38:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: https://eurasiantimes.com/us-oks-heavy-attack-drones-for-ukraine-general-atomics/ Eeeek. They will be a juicy target for the Russians. I'd rather see Ukraine get a fat batch of ATACMS for the same money. |
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:39:18 PM EDT
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One MOAB would dissolve their problems forever...
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Posted: 11/4/2022 8:41:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gentlemanfarmer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: She's a total fucking retard. The AOC of the right. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
Crowd eats it up The republicans need to muzzle that, they hold her purse strings. Not usually one to endorse censor by a party to toe the line but the Ukraine messaging coming out is pure artillery for the left. Never hear a word about the 40 democrats opposing the war because they got a handle on it quick. My mom swears that republicans are against helping the Ukraine because of people like her and Tucker. She’s Going to vote joe thanks to them. |
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