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Link Posted: 1/4/2023 11:11:18 PM EST
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Spooky
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 11:15:46 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 2A373:




@lorazepam

I'm going back to this since I finally got caught up after getting a few days behind. Not sure why you posted the picture in this thread, but I'll explain what you are looking at.

That is a Gripen with a AIM-120 mounted on what looks to be a LAU-128 missile rail that is used to rail launch AIM-9/120s on a lot of fighters.


AIM-9 and -120 on LAU-128s on an F-15 wing pylon. There is an adapter between the pylon and LAU-128 but I don't remember its nomenclature.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/F-15E-Pylon-AIM120-AIM9_jpg-2660819.JPG

F-16 with -120s on pylon mounted LAU-128s.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/article_61fbe3ea56ca44_08798426_jpg-2660822.JPG


Another way AIM-120s are launched is by using a type of launcher that basically pushes them away from the aircraft before their rocket motor fires.

F-15s uses LAU-106 launchers to do this for the fuselage weapons stations. The launchers use explosive cartridges (the same ones used to jettison bombs and external fuel tanks) to drive two pistons that force the missile away from the aircraft. I've circled the pistons in the picture below. The semi-circle fitting on the front one is affectionately called the "Eagle Claw" because it always seems to grab you and it hurts like a MF when it does.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/061018-F-0522D-037_jpg-2660857.JPG


F-22s use hydraulically powered LAU-142 launchers to fire -120s. The inboard launcher in the picture below is in the full extended position like when it is launching a missile. It is mind boggling how fast they operate when in launch mode.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/avel_jpg-2660870.JPG
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@2A373  I posted it because there was talk earlier in the thread about adapting NATO missiles onto Ukrainian fighters, and it appeared to me to be showing an adapter on the pylon. I understand they also have to wake the missiles, and tell them when and where to go. Sticking them on the plane is probably the easiest part. I'm a moron, so it was probably not a good example to begin with.
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 11:29:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 2A373:




@lorazepam

I'm going back to this since I finally got caught up after getting a few days behind. Not sure why you posted the picture in this thread, but I'll explain what you are looking at.

That is a Gripen with a AIM-120 mounted on what looks to be a LAU-128 missile rail that is used to rail launch AIM-9/120s on a lot of fighters.


AIM-9 and -120 on LAU-128s on an F-15 wing pylon. There is an adapter between the pylon and LAU-128 but I don't remember its nomenclature.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/F-15E-Pylon-AIM120-AIM9_jpg-2660819.JPG

F-16 with -120s on pylon mounted LAU-128s.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/article_61fbe3ea56ca44_08798426_jpg-2660822.JPG


Another way AIM-120s are launched is by using a type of launcher that basically pushes them away from the aircraft before their rocket motor fires.

F-15s uses LAU-106 launchers to do this for the fuselage weapons stations. The launchers use explosive cartridges (the same ones used to jettison bombs and external fuel tanks) to drive two pistons that force the missile away from the aircraft. I've circled the pistons in the picture below. The semi-circle fitting on the front one is affectionately called the "Eagle Claw" because it always seems to grab you and it hurts like a MF when it does.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/061018-F-0522D-037_jpg-2660857.JPG


F-22s use hydraulically powered LAU-142 launchers to fire -120s. The inboard launcher in the picture below is in the full extended position like when it is launching a missile. It is mind boggling how fast they operate when in launch mode.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/avel_jpg-2660870.JPG
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Originally Posted By 2A373:


Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Appears to be an adapter on the pylon to put that missile there.


@lorazepam

I'm going back to this since I finally got caught up after getting a few days behind. Not sure why you posted the picture in this thread, but I'll explain what you are looking at.

That is a Gripen with a AIM-120 mounted on what looks to be a LAU-128 missile rail that is used to rail launch AIM-9/120s on a lot of fighters.


AIM-9 and -120 on LAU-128s on an F-15 wing pylon. There is an adapter between the pylon and LAU-128 but I don't remember its nomenclature.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/F-15E-Pylon-AIM120-AIM9_jpg-2660819.JPG

F-16 with -120s on pylon mounted LAU-128s.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/article_61fbe3ea56ca44_08798426_jpg-2660822.JPG


Another way AIM-120s are launched is by using a type of launcher that basically pushes them away from the aircraft before their rocket motor fires.

F-15s uses LAU-106 launchers to do this for the fuselage weapons stations. The launchers use explosive cartridges (the same ones used to jettison bombs and external fuel tanks) to drive two pistons that force the missile away from the aircraft. I've circled the pistons in the picture below. The semi-circle fitting on the front one is affectionately called the "Eagle Claw" because it always seems to grab you and it hurts like a MF when it does.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/061018-F-0522D-037_jpg-2660857.JPG


F-22s use hydraulically powered LAU-142 launchers to fire -120s. The inboard launcher in the picture below is in the full extended position like when it is launching a missile. It is mind boggling how fast they operate when in launch mode.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/avel_jpg-2660870.JPG



very cool! and informative! thank you for sharing! cool pic of the F-22 gut rails
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 11:37:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By BustinCaps:
I bet the 1991 Iraqi army is stronger on paper than the current force Russia is fielding, now that I think of it.
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I don't think so
Link Posted: 1/4/2023 11:44:09 PM EST
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Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer:


That guy is straight Putin puffer, won’t click his trash.
Looks like they captured a block or two. Not surprising lots of guys on leave rotation for holidays. I expect it will reverse or stabilize.
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Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer:
Originally Posted By Tiberius:
Is something going on in Soledar?  The YTer “HistoryLegends is claiming the Russians are in Soledar.  Granted, he’s a puffer, but I’m curious if there is any truth to this or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqYOmY12YHU


That guy is straight Putin puffer, won’t click his trash.
Looks like they captured a block or two. Not surprising lots of guys on leave rotation for holidays. I expect it will reverse or stabilize.


Cool. It popped up in my feed and was so recent I clicked on it to see what was up. I was hoping it was bullshit…..looks like it is. Tbh, even if he wasn’t a puffer I wouldn’t sub to him, his style is downright annoying.
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 12:09:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
Is that a prediction of civil war in the last paragraph?
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Originally Posted By Mal_means_bad:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlqCV3hWABkUEM6?format=png&name=small

Is that a prediction of civil war in the last paragraph?

Girkin has said that before.  He knows Russia is a polyglot empire ruled by force, and that if they show weakness the long knives will come out.
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 12:18:49 AM EST
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:

@2A373  I posted it because there was talk earlier in the thread about adapting NATO missiles onto Ukrainian fighters, and it appeared to me to be showing an adapter on the pylon. I understand they also have to wake the missiles, and tell them when and where to go. Sticking them on the plane is probably the easiest part. I'm a moron, so it was probably not a good example to begin with.
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Originally Posted By 2A373:




@lorazepam

I'm going back to this since I finally got caught up after getting a few days behind. Not sure why you posted the picture in this thread, but I'll explain what you are looking at.

That is a Gripen with a AIM-120 mounted on what looks to be a LAU-128 missile rail that is used to rail launch AIM-9/120s on a lot of fighters.


AIM-9 and -120 on LAU-128s on an F-15 wing pylon. There is an adapter between the pylon and LAU-128 but I don't remember its nomenclature.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/F-15E-Pylon-AIM120-AIM9_jpg-2660819.JPG

F-16 with -120s on pylon mounted LAU-128s.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/article_61fbe3ea56ca44_08798426_jpg-2660822.JPG


Another way AIM-120s are launched is by using a type of launcher that basically pushes them away from the aircraft before their rocket motor fires.

F-15s uses LAU-106 launchers to do this for the fuselage weapons stations. The launchers use explosive cartridges (the same ones used to jettison bombs and external fuel tanks) to drive two pistons that force the missile away from the aircraft. I've circled the pistons in the picture below. The semi-circle fitting on the front one is affectionately called the "Eagle Claw" because it always seems to grab you and it hurts like a MF when it does.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/061018-F-0522D-037_jpg-2660857.JPG


F-22s use hydraulically powered LAU-142 launchers to fire -120s. The inboard launcher in the picture below is in the full extended position like when it is launching a missile. It is mind boggling how fast they operate when in launch mode.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/avel_jpg-2660870.JPG

@2A373  I posted it because there was talk earlier in the thread about adapting NATO missiles onto Ukrainian fighters, and it appeared to me to be showing an adapter on the pylon. I understand they also have to wake the missiles, and tell them when and where to go. Sticking them on the plane is probably the easiest part. I'm a moron, so it was probably not a good example to begin with.


The talk about using UA getting JDAM kits got me wondering if they could even mount our bombs to their fighters. My Google research found that they couldn't without using an adapter or different bomb racks since most Commie block bombs use 250 MM (about 10") attachment lug spacing while some of their real big bombs use a larger lug spacing that isn't close to our bombs that use 14" or 30" lug spacing.

But UA using HARMS on the MIGs shows that there has been some work put into adapting Commie block aircraft to use our weapons. The launcher in the pictures I've seen of HARMS on their MIGs looks very much like a LAU-118.

UA MIG-29 loaded with a HARM

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F-16 with a HARM mounted to a LAU-118

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Link Posted: 1/5/2023 12:21:48 AM EST
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‼️ Military intelligence of Ukraine records the activation of the resistance movement in the Russian Federation

📌 On the night of January 4 in Russia, partisans once again stopped the movement of civilian trains and military echelons on the section of the Trans-Siberian Railway in the Krasnoyarsk region.

☝️ In the new year of 2023, this is already at least the sixth case of the destruction of signaling, centralization and blocking blocks on railways in various regions of Russia, which leads to violations in the movement schedules of military echelons.

☑️ In the past year 2022, about 40 such cases were recorded, as well as cases of destruction of railway transformers and locomotives. A significant intensification of rail partisans in Russia took place after the announcement of partial mobilization by the Putin regime.

https://t.me/operativnoZSU/67943



Something is restless in the Danish principality. Rebellion smells among the Russian soldiers)))
https://t.me/operativnoZSU/68030







Link Posted: 1/5/2023 12:34:32 AM EST
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Romania







“Am I being detained?”

Link Posted: 1/5/2023 12:47:35 AM EST
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🫡Comrade General, may I report?!!
Most of this equipment was destroyed by the enemy even before it started up.
LOADING SCHEME of the military train that illegally crossed the state border of Ukraine, military unit 09332 is on your table.


https://t.me/atesh_ua/289


According to the rotation, we were reinforced by newly created regiments based on the mobilized.
Considering the level of training of the commanders of such units, it is possible that the tragedy in Makiivka may be repeated in our country.
If any of my readers have information about such violations, when a large number of personnel are stationed in one room, write, we will respond.

2️⃣0️⃣5️⃣

https://t.me/mototroopers_205/795



It is enough to look at the map of nodal distributions of power networks to understand
goals.
Most of them are just in full reach.


2️⃣0️⃣5️⃣

https://t.me/mototroopers_205/800


I looked at the reports of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine.
They say about 500 people died from our side a day.
It is quite possible, given the intensity of hostilities in the Donetsk and Svatov directions.
This is on the topic above.
Mobilization is quite a natural phenomenon.

2️⃣0️⃣5️⃣

https://t.me/mototroopers_205/803


Link Posted: 1/5/2023 1:01:49 AM EST
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On his birthday, the head of the GUR Kyrylo Budanova cut Russia 🔥



https://t.me/operativnoZSU/67994

Link Posted: 1/5/2023 1:08:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Prime:

On his birthday, the head of the GUR Kyrylo Budanova cut Russia 🔥

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/2837F081-16AB-4BEA-A900-5A3A0756CEEF-2661008.jpg

https://t.me/operativnoZSU/67994

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Unusual choice of cutlery…..
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 1:14:57 AM EST
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Sevastopol. They’s a-shootin’.




In short, according to my operative information, the quilters say that some kind of Godzilla came out of the sea and is shaking the Crimea together with the bridge. Everything is exploding, the Air Defense Forces are doing their own thing, the rain has gone like a herring, and General Armageddon is on the TV.
There's some kind of bullshit going on there.

https://t.me/ukrainian_militant/10529



This feels old for some reason. Still hilarious.
😄 Rusnya began disguising fuel trucks as timber trucks in order to avoid Ukrainian fire.
Judging by the last photo, the idea is not very successful.



https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/6028CC0C-7FD7-4C5A-B58D-E7D3F6FEBC80-2661016.jpg



The Norwegian Armed Forces (“Forswaret”) on one of their C-17 aircraft delivered ten thousand 155-mm artillery shells to Ukraine.
Some of them will fire from M109 self-propelled artillery mounts previously delivered to Ukraine by Norway.



https://t.me/mertviorku/2095

Link Posted: 1/5/2023 1:30:11 AM EST
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Another alleged suicide, this time with a grenade.

⚡ We continue yesterday's evening column, Kadyriv residents drive katsaps to suicide 😅
Do-don tic-tokers, after receiving a star from the Armed Forces, engaged in their favorite business - humiliating Russians. And this time, the "Kadyrivets" did not court the unwashed (maybe they swayed, because it really is unwashed) but simply put it on display. Wanting to take revenge, the patient blew himself up with a grenade. Naturally, Vanka was written off for a negligent attitude to safety equipment, but the photo of a boneless hand indicates deliberate self-sabotage. And the draft of the results of the official investigation went for a walk on the Internet.


https://t.me/ukrainian_militant/10521



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Link Posted: 1/5/2023 1:42:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 2A373:


The talk about using UA getting JDAM kits got me wondering if they could even mount our bombs to their fighters. My Google research found that they couldn't without using an adapter or different bomb racks since most Commie block bombs use 250 MM (about 10") attachment lug spacing while some of their real big bombs use a larger lug spacing that isn't close to our bombs that use 14" or 30" lug spacing.

But UA using HARMS on the MIGs shows that there has been some work put into adapting Commie block aircraft to use our weapons. The launcher in the pictures I've seen of HARMS on their MIGs looks very much like a LAU-118.

UA MIG-29 loaded with a HARM

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/Screen-Shot-2022-09-15-at-6_21_30-PM_jpg-2660970.JPG

F-16 with a HARM mounted to a LAU-118

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/8064950703_a22899b96e_b_jpg-2660972.JPG

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Very cool! Thanks for that.
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 1:54:39 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Prime:
Sevastopol. They’s a-shootin’.




In short, according to my operative information, the quilters say that some kind of Godzilla came out of the sea and is shaking the Crimea together with the bridge. Everything is exploding, the Air Defense Forces are doing their own thing, the rain has gone like a herring, and General Armageddon is on the TV.
There's some kind of bullshit going on there.

https://t.me/ukrainian_militant/10529



This feels old for some reason. Still hilarious.
😄 Rusnya began disguising fuel trucks as timber trucks in order to avoid Ukrainian fire.
Judging by the last photo, the idea is not very successful.


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/AB890BB3-528C-4670-B199-870EDB473A8A-2661015.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/6028CC0C-7FD7-4C5A-B58D-E7D3F6FEBC80-2661016.jpg



The Norwegian Armed Forces (“Forswaret”) on one of their C-17 aircraft delivered ten thousand 155-mm artillery shells to Ukraine.
Some of them will fire from M109 self-propelled artillery mounts previously delivered to Ukraine by Norway.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/D40BB190-F205-48A7-B670-9BAD6A9DB674-2661019.jpg
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/BA3AD3D8-EBB4-4040-808C-2E324C79F3BD-2661020.jpg
https://t.me/mertviorku/2095

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is that like 4-5 days worth now? or are they getting better at conserving rounds?
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 2:34:05 AM EST
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Russias new "winged" bomb.  Meet the new "JDAM-ski"



some half ass-ed welded spring loaded wing kit strapped to a general purpose bomb with out any guidance system, lol.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/russian-bomb-with-mysterious-range-extending-wing-kit-emerges

"A picture of what appears to be a FAB-500M-62 bomb with a kit attached that features pop-out wings loaded onto a Russian Su-34 Fullback combat jet has emerged online. While there are no clear indications that the modified weapon is guided, the wing kit could still allow the bomb to be employed against target areas at extended ranges, allowing pilots to stay further away from enemy air defenses. Any such unguided strikes would be very inaccurate, but could still be used against very broad area targets, such as Ukrainian cities."
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 2:55:50 AM EST
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russia claims to have shot down a Ukrainian MIG-29 and SU-25 near  Kramatorsk and Novopavlovka

https://tvzvezda.ru/news/2023141256-bXRPM.html
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 3:02:29 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/5/2023 3:21:46 AM EST
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Originally Posted By fervid_dryfire:



This would be awesome if it happened.  

How feasible would it be for a stream of Bradleys to pull off a major flanking maneuver around and set up an eventual retaking of Mariupol, for example?  Or what about a lightning push through Crimea, not unlike when Patton stormed through Sicily?  

Of course, it doesn't have to be those locations; any deep push toward retaking land in places where the Orcs are spread thin would be great.  I understand them not wanting to overextend themselves in an offensive, but Ukrainians have proven that they have the guts and ambition to make a move like this, haven't they?
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The Bradley would be a huge step up from the M113 and most BMPs and BTRs, for sure, but the lawyer answer is "it depends".

Going on the offense is hard, even with the Russians being as shitty as they are. Having a more heavily armed and armored IFV with tracked mobility (vs. wheeled) seems pretty important in Ukraine, on the offense, in the Spring time. And the Puma is apparently a gold plated turd, and the Germans already sold off most of the surplus Marders they might have considered selling (SLOWLY) before now.

But getting the most out of the Brads would require a lot of the Ukrainians...not that they are incapable to operate them, but they have the M242 and the TOW, plus a multitude of other subsystems that would need to be trained and maintained.

For example: if we aren't giving them US radios or BMS, then that takes their capability level down a notch right there. Or, even if the donated Brads were equipped with the latest thermal sights like the US use, but ALL of the rest of that Brigade didn't have enough NV/thermal (a certain % of all dismounts and other vehicles), then is it all that helpful?

Then add on top of that just the gas and ammo (and do the weapons on the Brads have any cross-over with other weapons in a particular Ukrainian Brigade?) Not insurmountable and I am sure the Ukrainians are accustomed to making-do, but a huge pain in the ass.

I think the US was reluctant to consider Brads before, not because of a real fear of escalation, but because it is a whole other ballgame, time and cost-wise, to field and equip Brads. FMS cases for countries not at war take YEARS by themselves.

I think we've all been surprised by just how fucking dumb and stubborn the Russians have been though, so now this many months later, we might be considering Brads for Ukraine for that reason alone.

So, Brads good? Yes, certainly. But "GAME CHANGA!"? No, probably not. Look at what the Ukrainians were able to do with a menagerie of MRAP-type and HMMWV type vehicles (and fucking minivans for medevac!) the last time they wanted to go on the offense--the timing was right and they made it work. Brads might have been better but they went to war with the army they had, not the army they might have wished to have...hey wait a minute!

Look how little attention is paid to the M109 Paladins being donated from several countries; it's the most numerous type of SPG donated, but hardly anyone talks about it. It's capable but not sexy.

I personally hope the Ukrainians BUY AMERICAN as much as they want. They might be getting "free samples" today, but they know what they like and what works for them, and these things have a way of turning into 10 year maintenance and spare parts contracts!
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 3:26:42 AM EST
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Unusual choice of cutlery…..
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Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64:
Originally Posted By Prime:

On his birthday, the head of the GUR Kyrylo Budanova cut Russia 🔥

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/2837F081-16AB-4BEA-A900-5A3A0756CEEF-2661008.jpg

https://t.me/operativnoZSU/67994


Unusual choice of cutlery…..

They love to troll Russia, and I don’t blame them.
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 3:27:21 AM EST
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@lorazepam

I'm going back to this since I finally got caught up after getting a few days behind. Not sure why you posted the picture in this thread, but I'll explain what you are looking at.

That is a Gripen with a AIM-120 mounted on what looks to be a LAU-128 missile rail that is used to rail launch AIM-9/120s on a lot of fighters.


AIM-9 and -120 on LAU-128s on an F-15 wing pylon. There is an adapter between the pylon and LAU-128 but I don't remember its nomenclature.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/F-15E-Pylon-AIM120-AIM9_jpg-2660819.JPG

F-16 with -120s on pylon mounted LAU-128s.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/article_61fbe3ea56ca44_08798426_jpg-2660822.JPG


Another way AIM-120s are launched is by using a type of launcher that basically pushes them away from the aircraft before their rocket motor fires.

F-15s uses LAU-106 launchers to do this for the fuselage weapons stations. The launchers use explosive cartridges (the same ones used to jettison bombs and external fuel tanks) to drive two pistons that force the missile away from the aircraft. I've circled the pistons in the picture below. The semi-circle fitting on the front one is affectionately called the "Eagle Claw" because it always seems to grab you and it hurts like a MF when it does.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/061018-F-0522D-037_jpg-2660857.JPG


F-22s use hydraulically powered LAU-142 launchers to fire -120s. The inboard launcher in the picture below is in the full extended position like when it is launching a missile. It is mind boggling how fast they operate when in launch mode.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/avel_jpg-2660870.JPG
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Posts like this are why I LOVE coming here and reading these threads. Learn something every day. LOVE IT!

Link Posted: 1/5/2023 3:33:05 AM EST
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heck yes!! what a day!
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 3:33:20 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64:

Unusual choice of cutlery ..
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Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64:
Originally Posted By Prime:

On his birthday, the head of the GUR Kyrylo Budanova cut Russia

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/2837F081-16AB-4BEA-A900-5A3A0756CEEF-2661008.jpg

https://t.me/operativnoZSU/67994


Unusual choice of cutlery ..
Noticed that. Blade looks like one of their bayonets but don't see the extras that you usually see. Also an interesting map depicted on the cake.
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 3:40:50 AM EST
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Originally Posted By GTLandser:


The Bradley would be a huge step up from the M113 and most BMPs and BTRs, for sure, but the lawyer answer is "it depends".

Going on the offense is hard, even with the Russians being as shitty as they are. Having a more heavily armed and armored IFV with tracked mobility (vs. wheeled) seems pretty important in Ukraine, on the offense, in the Spring time. And the Puma is apparently a gold plated turd, and the Germans already sold off most of the surplus Marders they might have considered selling (SLOWLY) before now.

But getting the most out of the Brads would require a lot of the Ukrainians...not that they are incapable to operate them, but they have the M242 and the TOW, plus a multitude of other subsystems that would need to be trained and maintained.

For example: if we aren't giving them US radios or BMS, then that takes their capability level down a notch right there. Or, even if the donated Brads were equipped with the latest thermal sights like the US use, but ALL of the rest of that Brigade didn't have enough NV/thermal (a certain % of all dismounts and other vehicles), then is it all that helpful?

Then add on top of that just the gas and ammo (and do the weapons on the Brads have any cross-over with other weapons in a particular Ukrainian Brigade?) Not insurmountable and I am sure the Ukrainians are accustomed to making-do, but a huge pain in the ass.

I think the US was reluctant to consider Brads before, not because of a real fear of escalation, but because it is a whole other ballgame, time and cost-wise, to field and equip Brads. FMS cases for countries not at war take YEARS by themselves.

I think we've all been surprised by just how fucking dumb and stubborn the Russians have been though, so now this many months later, we might be considering Brads for Ukraine for that reason alone.

So, Brads good? Yes, certainly. But "GAME CHANGA!"? No, probably not. Look at what the Ukrainians were able to do with a menagerie of MRAP-type and HMMWV type vehicles (and fucking minivans for medevac!) the last time they wanted to go on the offense--the timing was right and they made it work. Brads might have been better but they went to war with the army they had, not the army they might have wished to have...hey wait a minute!

Look how little attention is paid to the M109 Paladins being donated from several countries; it's the most numerous type of SPG donated, but hardly anyone talks about it. It's capable but not sexy.

I personally hope the Ukrainians BUY AMERICAN as much as they want. They might be getting "free samples" today, but they know what they like and what works for them, and these things have a way of turning into 10 year maintenance and spare parts contracts!
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Originally Posted By GTLandser:
Originally Posted By fervid_dryfire:



This would be awesome if it happened.  

How feasible would it be for a stream of Bradleys to pull off a major flanking maneuver around and set up an eventual retaking of Mariupol, for example?  Or what about a lightning push through Crimea, not unlike when Patton stormed through Sicily?  

Of course, it doesn't have to be those locations; any deep push toward retaking land in places where the Orcs are spread thin would be great.  I understand them not wanting to overextend themselves in an offensive, but Ukrainians have proven that they have the guts and ambition to make a move like this, haven't they?


The Bradley would be a huge step up from the M113 and most BMPs and BTRs, for sure, but the lawyer answer is "it depends".

Going on the offense is hard, even with the Russians being as shitty as they are. Having a more heavily armed and armored IFV with tracked mobility (vs. wheeled) seems pretty important in Ukraine, on the offense, in the Spring time. And the Puma is apparently a gold plated turd, and the Germans already sold off most of the surplus Marders they might have considered selling (SLOWLY) before now.

But getting the most out of the Brads would require a lot of the Ukrainians...not that they are incapable to operate them, but they have the M242 and the TOW, plus a multitude of other subsystems that would need to be trained and maintained.

For example: if we aren't giving them US radios or BMS, then that takes their capability level down a notch right there. Or, even if the donated Brads were equipped with the latest thermal sights like the US use, but ALL of the rest of that Brigade didn't have enough NV/thermal (a certain % of all dismounts and other vehicles), then is it all that helpful?

Then add on top of that just the gas and ammo (and do the weapons on the Brads have any cross-over with other weapons in a particular Ukrainian Brigade?) Not insurmountable and I am sure the Ukrainians are accustomed to making-do, but a huge pain in the ass.

I think the US was reluctant to consider Brads before, not because of a real fear of escalation, but because it is a whole other ballgame, time and cost-wise, to field and equip Brads. FMS cases for countries not at war take YEARS by themselves.

I think we've all been surprised by just how fucking dumb and stubborn the Russians have been though, so now this many months later, we might be considering Brads for Ukraine for that reason alone.

So, Brads good? Yes, certainly. But "GAME CHANGA!"? No, probably not. Look at what the Ukrainians were able to do with a menagerie of MRAP-type and HMMWV type vehicles (and fucking minivans for medevac!) the last time they wanted to go on the offense--the timing was right and they made it work. Brads might have been better but they went to war with the army they had, not the army they might have wished to have...hey wait a minute!

Look how little attention is paid to the M109 Paladins being donated from several countries; it's the most numerous type of SPG donated, but hardly anyone talks about it. It's capable but not sexy.

I personally hope the Ukrainians BUY AMERICAN as much as they want. They might be getting "free samples" today, but they know what they like and what works for them, and these things have a way of turning into 10 year maintenance and spare parts contracts!



I get what you are saying, but I think you are underestimating the Bradley in Ukrainian hands. Sounds like they will be getting the A4 variant of the Bradley since most of what we got is now the latest A4 variant. They already know how to use the TOW, using the 25mm chaingun is a no brainer to them. The A4 with its upgraded armor will outlast any armor they have, so that in itself can be a HUGE difference. the bradley is quite capable of taking on russian armor and coming out on top (see: the battle of 74 Easting).   I know it all depends on how many they recieve and all on how much if any of a game changer they will be. But I guarantee Ukraine will benefit greatly having the Bradley. Bottom line it will save Ukrainian lives while taking those of the enemy. Also Ukraine has a great system of out fitting brigades with certain donated armor and weapons from other countries. they just dont throw them here and there across several different units and branches.. If they are given lets say 20 bradleys. then most likely they will all stay with certain trained units and not spread out.  that saves logistics on ammo and other items a certain piece of armor uses.
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Originally Posted By Veccio:
Noticed that. Blade looks like one of their bayonets but don't see the extras that you usually see. Also an interesting map depicted on the cake.
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Originally Posted By Veccio:
Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64:
Originally Posted By Prime:

On his birthday, the head of the GUR Kyrylo Budanova cut Russia

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/2837F081-16AB-4BEA-A900-5A3A0756CEEF-2661008.jpg

https://t.me/operativnoZSU/67994


Unusual choice of cutlery ..
Noticed that. Blade looks like one of their bayonets but don't see the extras that you usually see. Also an interesting map depicted on the cake.

It’s a German K-98 dress bayonet.  
https://simpsonltd.com/german-heer-dress-bayonet-c50620/
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Originally Posted By Capta:

It's a German K-98 dress bayonet.  
https://simpsonltd.com/german-heer-dress-bayonet-c50620/
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Originally Posted By Capta:
Originally Posted By Veccio:
Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64:
Originally Posted By Prime:

On his birthday, the head of the GUR Kyrylo Budanova cut Russia

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/2837F081-16AB-4BEA-A900-5A3A0756CEEF-2661008.jpg

https://t.me/operativnoZSU/67994


Unusual choice of cutlery ..
Noticed that. Blade looks like one of their bayonets but don't see the extras that you usually see. Also an interesting map depicted on the cake.

It's a German K-98 dress bayonet.  
https://simpsonltd.com/german-heer-dress-bayonet-c50620/
I knew it wouldn't take long to get a reply

ETA-$300 to cut a cake is steep
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 4:54:56 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/5/2023 4:58:40 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Veccio:
I knew it wouldn't take long to get a reply

ETA-$300 to cut a cake is steep
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Originally Posted By Veccio:
Originally Posted By Capta:
Originally Posted By Veccio:
Originally Posted By AlabamaFan64:
Originally Posted By Prime:

On his birthday, the head of the GUR Kyrylo Budanova cut Russia

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/2837F081-16AB-4BEA-A900-5A3A0756CEEF-2661008.jpg

https://t.me/operativnoZSU/67994


Unusual choice of cutlery ..
Noticed that. Blade looks like one of their bayonets but don't see the extras that you usually see. Also an interesting map depicted on the cake.

It's a German K-98 dress bayonet.  
https://simpsonltd.com/german-heer-dress-bayonet-c50620/
I knew it wouldn't take long to get a reply

ETA-$300 to cut a cake is steep



Those are very abundant in Ukraine though. They still have wharehouses stacked with German equipment and weapons left over from ww2
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 6:57:43 AM EST
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I took some pictures of many monuments when I first got here in Dnipro.

General Pushkin memorial on Yuri Gagarin Street then:
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Now:
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Link Posted: 1/5/2023 7:11:23 AM EST
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Originally Posted By 2A373:


The talk about using UA getting JDAM kits got me wondering if they could even mount our bombs to their fighters. My Google research found that they couldn't without using an adapter or different bomb racks since most Commie block bombs use 250 MM (about 10") attachment lug spacing while some of their real big bombs use a larger lug spacing that isn't close to our bombs that use 14" or 30" lug spacing.

But UA using HARMS on the MIGs shows that there has been some work put into adapting Commie block aircraft to use our weapons. The launcher in the pictures I've seen of HARMS on their MIGs looks very much like a LAU-118.

UA MIG-29 loaded with a HARM

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/54089/Screen-Shot-2022-09-15-at-6_21_30-PM_jpg-2660970.JPG

F-16 with a HARM mounted to a LAU-118

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I wonder if the guys who developed all of our various missiles over the decades ever dreamed that we would be using them on Migs one day.
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 7:20:08 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Easterner:
I took some pictures of many monuments when I first got here in Dnipro.

General Pushkin memorial on Yuri Gagarin Street then:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20230105_135000_jpg-2661102.JPG

Now:
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Seems like “de-russification” is in full swing.  
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 7:41:56 AM EST
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PMC Wagner shows all the equipment of an American mercenary killed in action in Artmovsk.



Link Posted: 1/5/2023 8:03:50 AM EST
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Odd that there’s no blood…
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 8:07:54 AM EST
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First T-90S killed:

First T-90S (Export Version of the T-90) Lost in Ukraine

Link Posted: 1/5/2023 8:09:41 AM EST
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:



Those will start up very soon with the next aid package, including Bradley IFV's.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Originally Posted By m35ben:
Originally Posted By Easterner:
Yaay 4am explosion. Sounded like an interception, and it wasn't a football.
Sorry there was an attack. Though right now there are no Fuck Ukraine threads going so that is nice.



Those will start up very soon with the next aid package, including Bradley IFV's.


During working hours  (Moscow time) after morning meeting. You get hit here between 19-2200. Or they blow a thread up late night so it looks cool and popular the next day. Anti Zelensky threads have the serious taint of foreign ops. I remember Primorsky and everyone dogpiled.

I wonder if Maxim Popenker got hamburger end yet. He is Putin Puffer that was working with forgotten commies.
I suspect he’s mobilized and holding his crappy AK and turned upside down. I argued with those guys non stop on TFB back in the day and the Russian ops there were well orchestrated. I hope good old Maxim gets Kadyrovited then fed to front. He’s probably got enough scratch to pay off the recruiters since FW gave him a sweet book deal.
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 8:11:41 AM EST
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looks legit otherwise. Nice gear.
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 8:22:34 AM EST
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Pointer guy’s back bringing all the things that pointer guy brings.









Link Posted: 1/5/2023 8:30:34 AM EST
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Casualty numbers continuing to improve.  At this rate we should start seeing four figures soon.  
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 8:36:28 AM EST
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First T-90S killed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1BE806grG0
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That’s huge because it means Russia is stealing from export sales to backfill losses in their own forces.
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 8:39:20 AM EST
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From September

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More odd that he’s an “anonymous American” with face blurred and no ID.

Lol. Might be a real dead Ukrainian guy but Russians need the PR win if they actually got an American.
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 8:54:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Prime:

PMC Wagner shows all the equipment of an American mercenary killed in action in Artmovsk.


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Now do a mobnik.
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 9:05:52 AM EST
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Unusual choice of cutlery…..
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@AlabamaFan64 is that what I think it is?
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 9:06:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Prime:

PMC Wagner shows all the equipment of an American mercenary killed in action in Artmovsk.


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lol, this was a photo from a live person, (the one shown in the photo) to illustrate the equipment his unit was kitted out with.  He's not dead, but this is what happens if you don't watermark your photos, you get "deaded" by Wagner.  I'll see if I can find the original image, it's from a few months ago, and he's not American.
Link Posted: 1/5/2023 9:07:59 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/5/2023 9:09:49 AM EST
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Point blank tank assault.

Link Posted: 1/5/2023 9:12:21 AM EST
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Now this is interesting, Germany sent the L3 APWKS systems to Ukraine.  These are guided rocket anti drone and surface target vehicle.





Link Posted: 1/5/2023 9:12:36 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/5/2023 9:14:58 AM EST
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Everybody gets stealth!!

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