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Unique shots of capturing enemy positions and destroying the enemy on the outskirts of Bakhmut. At night, under the cover of the fire support unit of the Defense Forces, operators of the SSO of Ukraine conducted an assault on a stronghold held by Russian soldiers. This stronghold was previously held by the Ukrainian military, but was lost as a result of enemy attacks. Thanks to professional coordinated work, the SSO unit quickly destroyed the enemy who resisted. Enemy positions came under the control of Special Operations Forces operators. As a result of the operation, soldiers of the SSO of Ukraine destroyed 13 and captured 5 Russian soldiers.
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
Originally Posted By Prime:
View Quote I believe those are video game shots. |
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Originally Posted By sq40: China is officially distancing itself from Russia, and calling Ukraine to win the war; https://www.ft.com/content/e592033b-9e34-4e3d-ae53-17fa34c16009 The starting point for Xi’s diplomatic reset is a re-evaluation in Beijing about the benefits of its close relationship with Moscow. China now perceives a likelihood that Russia will fail to prevail against Ukraine and emerge from the conflict a “minor power”, much diminished economically and diplomatically on the world stage, according to Chinese officials. In addition, for all the public professions of bilateral amity, in private some Chinese officials express at least a measure of mistrust towards Putin himself. ___ “Putin is crazy,” says one Chinese official, who declined to be identified. “The invasion decision was made by a very small group of people. China shouldn’t simply follow Russia.” ___ From a diplomatic perspective, China’s main aim is to improve relations with some countries in the west, after a period which has at times left Beijing feeling uncomfortably isolated. The focus is on ties with Europe, which have been badly damaged by China’s support for its partner Russia throughout Moscow’s war against Ukraine. ___ As it seeks to repair ties with European powers, Beijing is insisting that its European counterparts agree to repeat a “no decoupling” mantra — marking a clear difference with Washington, which is seeking to limit US commercial ties with China in certain areas, particularly with regard to sensitive technologies. “China has realised that it has antagonised too many countries at the same time, particularly among developed countries which still today are its main trade and economic partners,” says Jean-Pierre Cabestan, a China expert at Hong Kong Baptist University. “So it is trying very hard to reach out to the EU and key European nations — Germany, France, Italy and Spain — as well as America’s Asian allies, such as Japan and South Korea and US partners such as Vietnam.” The EU is China’s biggest trade partner and Beijing runs a huge trade surplus with the bloc. Similarly, several of Europe’s leading companies rank among China’s biggest foreign investors. View Quote This has an air of China knowing what's up, but if someone wants to actually watch this and work on their Chinese that'd be great. https://tv.cctv.com/2023/01/10/VIDEEgvriyEsj9fExO0EWxfJ230110.shtml?spm=C28340.P3GbPoIN6ktz.Ei1cdgvmaht5.11 |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
Originally Posted By kbi: Of the below is true those orcs with rpgs are gonna be in fkr a shock https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/77256/Screenshot_20230109-224441_Chrome_jpg-2666967.JPG View Quote The only thing that can kill Barnes is Barnes? |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
Baldassare Castiglione |
Originally Posted By Prime: This has an air of China knowing what's up, but if someone wants to actually watch this and work on their Chinese that'd be great. https://tv.cctv.com/2023/01/10/VIDEEgvriyEsj9fExO0EWxfJ230110.shtml?spm=C28340.P3GbPoIN6ktz.Ei1cdgvmaht5.11 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/China_JPG-2667163.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By sq40: China is officially distancing itself from Russia, and calling Ukraine to win the war; https://www.ft.com/content/e592033b-9e34-4e3d-ae53-17fa34c16009 The starting point for Xi’s diplomatic reset is a re-evaluation in Beijing about the benefits of its close relationship with Moscow. China now perceives a likelihood that Russia will fail to prevail against Ukraine and emerge from the conflict a “minor power”, much diminished economically and diplomatically on the world stage, according to Chinese officials. In addition, for all the public professions of bilateral amity, in private some Chinese officials express at least a measure of mistrust towards Putin himself. ___ “Putin is crazy,” says one Chinese official, who declined to be identified. “The invasion decision was made by a very small group of people. China shouldn’t simply follow Russia.” ___ From a diplomatic perspective, China’s main aim is to improve relations with some countries in the west, after a period which has at times left Beijing feeling uncomfortably isolated. The focus is on ties with Europe, which have been badly damaged by China’s support for its partner Russia throughout Moscow’s war against Ukraine. ___ As it seeks to repair ties with European powers, Beijing is insisting that its European counterparts agree to repeat a “no decoupling” mantra — marking a clear difference with Washington, which is seeking to limit US commercial ties with China in certain areas, particularly with regard to sensitive technologies. “China has realised that it has antagonised too many countries at the same time, particularly among developed countries which still today are its main trade and economic partners,” says Jean-Pierre Cabestan, a China expert at Hong Kong Baptist University. “So it is trying very hard to reach out to the EU and key European nations — Germany, France, Italy and Spain — as well as America’s Asian allies, such as Japan and South Korea and US partners such as Vietnam.” The EU is China’s biggest trade partner and Beijing runs a huge trade surplus with the bloc. Similarly, several of Europe’s leading companies rank among China’s biggest foreign investors. This has an air of China knowing what's up, but if someone wants to actually watch this and work on their Chinese that'd be great. https://tv.cctv.com/2023/01/10/VIDEEgvriyEsj9fExO0EWxfJ230110.shtml?spm=C28340.P3GbPoIN6ktz.Ei1cdgvmaht5.11 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/China_JPG-2667163.jpg Russia has been really playing up Xi’s supposed visit to Russia this spring which China hadn’t yet acknowledged. If this report is true that’s a devastating blow for Putin. China may see only upside for itself in Russia’s defeat. Not to mention why would China put itself on the hook for past and likely future massive mistakes? |
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Remorse is for the dead
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Originally Posted By sq40: China is officially distancing itself from Russia, and calling Ukraine to win the war; https://www.ft.com/content/e592033b-9e34-4e3d-ae53-17fa34c16009 The starting point for Xi’s diplomatic reset is a re-evaluation in Beijing about the benefits of its close relationship with Moscow. China now perceives a likelihood that Russia will fail to prevail against Ukraine and emerge from the conflict a “minor power”, much diminished economically and diplomatically on the world stage, according to Chinese officials. In addition, for all the public professions of bilateral amity, in private some Chinese officials express at least a measure of mistrust towards Putin himself. ___ “Putin is crazy,” says one Chinese official, who declined to be identified. “The invasion decision was made by a very small group of people. China shouldn’t simply follow Russia.” ___ From a diplomatic perspective, China’s main aim is to improve relations with some countries in the west, after a period which has at times left Beijing feeling uncomfortably isolated. The focus is on ties with Europe, which have been badly damaged by China’s support for its partner Russia throughout Moscow’s war against Ukraine. ___ As it seeks to repair ties with European powers, Beijing is insisting that its European counterparts agree to repeat a “no decoupling” mantra — marking a clear difference with Washington, which is seeking to limit US commercial ties with China in certain areas, particularly with regard to sensitive technologies. “China has realised that it has antagonised too many countries at the same time, particularly among developed countries which still today are its main trade and economic partners,” says Jean-Pierre Cabestan, a China expert at Hong Kong Baptist University. “So it is trying very hard to reach out to the EU and key European nations — Germany, France, Italy and Spain — as well as America’s Asian allies, such as Japan and South Korea and US partners such as Vietnam.” The EU is China’s biggest trade partner and Beijing runs a huge trade surplus with the bloc. Similarly, several of Europe’s leading companies rank among China’s biggest foreign investors. View Quote This seems to have a big impact on the Taiwan invasion plans as well. Perhaps being strong on Ukraine will in fact stop China. The best way to keep those weapons stockpiles from being depleted may indeed turn out to be the use of some of them. Time will tell though. |
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Only God will judge me.
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Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: After supporting the Maidan movement, the US administration pretty much pulled the plug on Ukraine support. I don't understand it. The Foggy Bottom boys and/or the feckless buffoons in the White House screwed the pooch with Ukraine. Maybe they were scared because big bad Russia so quickly took Crimea & Donbas. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Don't feel bad guys I've been screaming for Bradley's and patriots, and F16s for 8.75 years now. This debate about donating old gear has jaded me on our whole foreign policy gig for that long. Watching FIM sales to shady countries for all of that time. It's ridiculous that it's taken this long. We really didn't want Ukraine to win. Also we made assurances at Minsk I and II that will be published one day. History I hope is a real bitch on the US (Obama, Trump, Biden) for dragging our feet and aiding Russia for 8 years. The whole we trained Ukrainians prior to the war is a gross overs estimation of what happened. Guys joked about it in 2017. I got to learn how to tie tourniquets. It slowly improved but the number of guys matriculated, is pretty minuscule. Anyway better late than never. After supporting the Maidan movement, the US administration pretty much pulled the plug on Ukraine support. I don't understand it. The Foggy Bottom boys and/or the feckless buffoons in the White House screwed the pooch with Ukraine. Maybe they were scared because big bad Russia so quickly took Crimea & Donbas. Why be surprised? We almost never seem to support people for long. Administrations change and old promises are forgotten. I wouldn't want to be a group of people depending on the US to keep their promises and defend them. |
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You must play the game. You can't win. You can't break even. You can't quit the game.
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Originally Posted By Prime:
View Quote The Georgian Legion tweet below this is |
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Originally Posted By Prime:
View Quote Looks like the T90 has the turret flaw still...lol... |
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Originally Posted By Prime: This has an air of China knowing what's up, but if someone wants to actually watch this and work on their Chinese that'd be great. https://tv.cctv.com/2023/01/10/VIDEEgvriyEsj9fExO0EWxfJ230110.shtml?spm=C28340.P3GbPoIN6ktz.Ei1cdgvmaht5.11 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/China_JPG-2667163.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By sq40: China is officially distancing itself from Russia, and calling Ukraine to win the war; https://www.ft.com/content/e592033b-9e34-4e3d-ae53-17fa34c16009 The starting point for Xi’s diplomatic reset is a re-evaluation in Beijing about the benefits of its close relationship with Moscow. China now perceives a likelihood that Russia will fail to prevail against Ukraine and emerge from the conflict a “minor power”, much diminished economically and diplomatically on the world stage, according to Chinese officials. In addition, for all the public professions of bilateral amity, in private some Chinese officials express at least a measure of mistrust towards Putin himself. ___ “Putin is crazy,” says one Chinese official, who declined to be identified. “The invasion decision was made by a very small group of people. China shouldn’t simply follow Russia.” ___ From a diplomatic perspective, China’s main aim is to improve relations with some countries in the west, after a period which has at times left Beijing feeling uncomfortably isolated. The focus is on ties with Europe, which have been badly damaged by China’s support for its partner Russia throughout Moscow’s war against Ukraine. ___ As it seeks to repair ties with European powers, Beijing is insisting that its European counterparts agree to repeat a “no decoupling” mantra — marking a clear difference with Washington, which is seeking to limit US commercial ties with China in certain areas, particularly with regard to sensitive technologies. “China has realised that it has antagonised too many countries at the same time, particularly among developed countries which still today are its main trade and economic partners,” says Jean-Pierre Cabestan, a China expert at Hong Kong Baptist University. “So it is trying very hard to reach out to the EU and key European nations — Germany, France, Italy and Spain — as well as America’s Asian allies, such as Japan and South Korea and US partners such as Vietnam.” The EU is China’s biggest trade partner and Beijing runs a huge trade surplus with the bloc. Similarly, several of Europe’s leading companies rank among China’s biggest foreign investors. This has an air of China knowing what's up, but if someone wants to actually watch this and work on their Chinese that'd be great. https://tv.cctv.com/2023/01/10/VIDEEgvriyEsj9fExO0EWxfJ230110.shtml?spm=C28340.P3GbPoIN6ktz.Ei1cdgvmaht5.11 https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/China_JPG-2667163.jpg https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-wolf-warrior-diplomatic-spokesperson-zhao-moves-new-role-2023-01-09/ |
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Don't you tell me about galaxies! I walk them in the timeline.
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Involved or orchestrated. Maybe sent some $$ to the organizers to print leaflets? I dont know. There were many MANY thousands of Ukrainians camped out for months protesting in the cold, then got shot and killed by snipers but still they persevered. It was organic. The people believed in it. Ray Epps was not there urging on the crowd. My wife wanted to buy our daughter a puppy. I told her ok but you pay and do everything. I was "involved" in buying a puppy. edit: Welcome back R0N. Even though we "may" disagree on some points I value you looking in on us from time to time and I hope you comment also. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By R0N: So Euromaaiden was the only color revolution the CIA was not involved in? Involved or orchestrated. Maybe sent some $$ to the organizers to print leaflets? I dont know. There were many MANY thousands of Ukrainians camped out for months protesting in the cold, then got shot and killed by snipers but still they persevered. It was organic. The people believed in it. Ray Epps was not there urging on the crowd. My wife wanted to buy our daughter a puppy. I told her ok but you pay and do everything. I was "involved" in buying a puppy. edit: Welcome back R0N. Even though we "may" disagree on some points I value you looking in on us from time to time and I hope you comment also. I'm still trying to figure out why it's a bad thing if the US was involved in a pro-Democracy movement that resulted in Russia being marginalized and pushed out of a country they were surreptitiously trying to turn into a puppet state. Haven't we cheered for the US to be involved with supporting the pro-Democracy movement in Iran when those people have risen up in the past against the religious ruling class? We've seen that in the last year even but, it's suddenly bad when it involves Ukraine? That doesn't make any sense. |
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DeSantis 2024
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: For example, is it better to have a bigger grenade with more bang, or a smaller grenade that can be thrown further / more accurately, and more can be carried? https://i.imgur.com/ppGQxHF.jpg View Quote Get both https://www.nammo.com/product/our-products/grenades-warheads-energetics/scalable-offensive-hand-grenade/ |
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You should refurb one of those boats uxb was on when he got a lift from some guys who weren't really there to where he wasn't going from where he never was. - Kitties with Sigs
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Originally Posted By uxb: Get both https://www.nammo.com/product/our-products/grenades-warheads-energetics/scalable-offensive-hand-grenade/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By uxb: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: For example, is it better to have a bigger grenade with more bang, or a smaller grenade that can be thrown further / more accurately, and more can be carried? https://i.imgur.com/ppGQxHF.jpg Get both https://www.nammo.com/product/our-products/grenades-warheads-energetics/scalable-offensive-hand-grenade/ Do we issue those? Or who uses those? Badass! |
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Only God will judge me.
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Yes. Excellent points. Wars are won by logistics and arty (precision MLRS now days) but trenches are won by lunatics with grenades. And someone always has to take the trenches. Either we perfected the grenade tech in the 70's or just let it stagnate as a tool. I would think there are some new designs that work better. In my time in the Army, grenade training was never a priority (I was a 12B and 11B and 95B in DS1 but never in combat). It always felt like it was "just for fun" since they would never trust us with live grenades. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Thats one of the other takeaways I've had - Frag Grenades being super important. Numerous videos have shown rifle fights being finished - decisively - only when frag grenades enter the picture. I wonder if this will result in any further study of 'optimal' grenade design? For example, is it better to have a bigger grenade with more bang, or a smaller grenade that can be thrown further / more accurately, and more can be carried? 5-7x rifle mags is pretty standard, but whats the optimal grenade loadout? https://i.imgur.com/ppGQxHF.jpg Yes. Excellent points. Wars are won by logistics and arty (precision MLRS now days) but trenches are won by lunatics with grenades. And someone always has to take the trenches. Either we perfected the grenade tech in the 70's or just let it stagnate as a tool. I would think there are some new designs that work better. In my time in the Army, grenade training was never a priority (I was a 12B and 11B and 95B in DS1 but never in combat). It always felt like it was "just for fun" since they would never trust us with live grenades. Nammo or RUAG one has a nasty stackable grenade that can be timed and scaled. I suggested looking into it in feb to friends with SSO. Nothing owned by the Swiss was allowed to be sold. Because Ukraine is a civil war bullshit. I’m sure the banking industry has nothing to do with it. |
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Many of the grenade fragments are tiny, weighing 1-3gr (a BB gun .177 BB is 4.5gr). So kinda like being hit with a steel grain of sand - but flying 5,000fps+. Distance greatly effects lethality; I recall reading a grenade brochure where at 2.5m the frags were defeating IIIA armor + 2mm aluminum, while at 5m most of the frags were not defeating 2mm AL (ie 2-3 penetrations but 10+ frags hitting the sheet.) Distance also hugely effected the number of impacts per that same grenade brochure (wish I could find it.) At 2.5m it was like 20+ penetration vs 2 penetrations at 5m. I haven't seen a ballistics gel test of what these frags do, but given how tiny they are its understandable that they're not instant kills or even reliably lethal. So long as they result in the soldier calling it a day and not fighting though thats a success. View Quote So a bigger grenade that air detonates into smaller nades that cover 2.5m each. |
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: I'm still trying to figure out why it's a bad thing if the US was involved in a pro-Democracy movement that resulted in Russia being marginalized and pushed out of a country they were surreptitiously trying to turn into a puppet state. Haven't we cheered for the US to be involved with supporting the pro-Democracy movement in Iran when those people have risen up in the past against the religious ruling class? We've seen that in the last year even but, it's suddenly bad when it involves Ukraine? That doesn't make any sense. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By R0N: So Euromaaiden was the only color revolution the CIA was not involved in? Involved or orchestrated. Maybe sent some $$ to the organizers to print leaflets? I dont know. There were many MANY thousands of Ukrainians camped out for months protesting in the cold, then got shot and killed by snipers but still they persevered. It was organic. The people believed in it. Ray Epps was not there urging on the crowd. My wife wanted to buy our daughter a puppy. I told her ok but you pay and do everything. I was "involved" in buying a puppy. edit: Welcome back R0N. Even though we "may" disagree on some points I value you looking in on us from time to time and I hope you comment also. I'm still trying to figure out why it's a bad thing if the US was involved in a pro-Democracy movement that resulted in Russia being marginalized and pushed out of a country they were surreptitiously trying to turn into a puppet state. Haven't we cheered for the US to be involved with supporting the pro-Democracy movement in Iran when those people have risen up in the past against the religious ruling class? We've seen that in the last year even but, it's suddenly bad when it involves Ukraine? That doesn't make any sense. To me, supporting movements around the world that want more friendly democratic governments is exactly what Ronald Reagan encouraged and supported. Makes sense to me to support foreign entities that want to remove their dictatorships and Communist backed governments for more Western friendly ones. |
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Originally Posted By uxb: Get both https://www.nammo.com/product/our-products/grenades-warheads-energetics/scalable-offensive-hand-grenade/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By uxb: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: For example, is it better to have a bigger grenade with more bang, or a smaller grenade that can be thrown further / more accurately, and more can be carried? https://i.imgur.com/ppGQxHF.jpg Get both https://www.nammo.com/product/our-products/grenades-warheads-energetics/scalable-offensive-hand-grenade/ It's cool, but I was hoping for a single grenade with a dial a yield knob on it. |
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"The Kremlin neither confirms nor refutes the information about the appointment of Colonel General Lapin as chief of the main headquarters of the Ground Forces" - Peskov.
Peskov's task is to know nothing. Why do journalists ask him anything at all? https://t.me/rsotmdivision/3767 “State Duma deputy, Lieutenant General Viktor Sobolev criticized Wagner PMC: Yevgeny Prigozhin should be careful with harsh statements about the country's military leadership. Everyone imagines himself a strategist, seeing the battle from the side. Prigozhin, although not from the outside, but let's be honest and frank - he has a private military company, and this is illegal. Yes, they are on our side, we close our eyes, but this, again, is illegal.” It is illegal that people like Viktor Sobolev are not yet in prison, along with their fucking "legal" Kents "strategists" who surrendered Kharkov and Kherson. https://t.me/rsotmdivision/3747 Our contest will be popular soon! https://southfront.org/14k-for-bradley-and-28k-for-leopard-the-russian-dogs-of-war-launched-competition-for-all/ https://t.me/rsotmdivision/3752 |
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“If by chance you were to ask me which ornaments I would desire above all others in my house, I would reply, without much pause for reflection, arms and books.”
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Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: I'm still trying to figure out why it's a bad thing if the US was involved in a pro-Democracy movement that resulted in Russia being marginalized and pushed out of a country they were surreptitiously trying to turn into a puppet state. Haven't we cheered for the US to be involved with supporting the pro-Democracy movement in Iran when those people have risen up in the past against the religious ruling class? We've seen that in the last year even but, it's suddenly bad when it involves Ukraine? That doesn't make any sense. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By R0N: So Euromaaiden was the only color revolution the CIA was not involved in? Involved or orchestrated. Maybe sent some $$ to the organizers to print leaflets? I dont know. There were many MANY thousands of Ukrainians camped out for months protesting in the cold, then got shot and killed by snipers but still they persevered. It was organic. The people believed in it. Ray Epps was not there urging on the crowd. My wife wanted to buy our daughter a puppy. I told her ok but you pay and do everything. I was "involved" in buying a puppy. edit: Welcome back R0N. Even though we "may" disagree on some points I value you looking in on us from time to time and I hope you comment also. I'm still trying to figure out why it's a bad thing if the US was involved in a pro-Democracy movement that resulted in Russia being marginalized and pushed out of a country they were surreptitiously trying to turn into a puppet state. Haven't we cheered for the US to be involved with supporting the pro-Democracy movement in Iran when those people have risen up in the past against the religious ruling class? We've seen that in the last year even but, it's suddenly bad when it involves Ukraine? That doesn't make any sense. It’s not bad, but it changes the narrative and all the sudden the “those are Russian talking point arguments” go out the window. |
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In the real world off-campus, good marksmanship trumps good will.
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Translated video in tweet of a Russian nurse shaking down an injured soldier for 10,000 rubles or she'll send him back to the front line. Wow.
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I bet we could/should improve on the grenade tech. Maybe increase frag kill radius to maybe 10M although this may be lethal to weak armed millennials. View Quote Considering that the millennials who haven't already hit their 20 years and retired are mostly E-6+, I doubt you have to worry about many millennials chucking grenades. They already did that. |
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Involved or orchestrated. Maybe sent some $$ to the organizers to print leaflets? I dont know. There were many MANY thousands of Ukrainians camped out for months protesting in the cold, then got shot and killed by snipers but still they persevered. It was organic. The people believed in it. Ray Epps was not there urging on the crowd. My wife wanted to buy our daughter a puppy. I told her ok but you pay and do everything. I was "involved" in buying a puppy. edit: Welcome back R0N. Even though we "may" disagree on some points I value you looking in on us from time to time and I hope you comment also. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By R0N: So Euromaaiden was the only color revolution the CIA was not involved in? Involved or orchestrated. Maybe sent some $$ to the organizers to print leaflets? I dont know. There were many MANY thousands of Ukrainians camped out for months protesting in the cold, then got shot and killed by snipers but still they persevered. It was organic. The people believed in it. Ray Epps was not there urging on the crowd. My wife wanted to buy our daughter a puppy. I told her ok but you pay and do everything. I was "involved" in buying a puppy. edit: Welcome back R0N. Even though we "may" disagree on some points I value you looking in on us from time to time and I hope you comment also. The Euromiadan was not orchestrated anymore than the orange revolution or the dam Arab spring in Egypt. It’s just Russian bullshit “that must be true” because we’re Americans and we can’t but help ourselves to have coup s where ever we can right? There are a lot of good books out there at this point on the Arab spring, the maidan ( not so much in English) but there were no webs of American agents organizing or anything. The anger against that dud ( retarded convicted rapist) Yanukovich, it boiled over quickly and everyone supported it in Kyiv. I was not there except through live stream from family and videos. Taxi drivers were giving free rides. The embassy (annex) had 4-6 American citizens working there. I do know that. 1 defense attaché (pretty sure he was Russian) whose dad or uncle worked at the SBU and fled later. Yeah like if there was any evidence or follow on to support this. You don’t start a coup without a follow on. Look at Syria. You don’t do it against Russia w/o severe risk assessment. People might think that the Gov is retarded, but when it comes to instigating Coups post 1980’s South America it has to an existential threat to America to even think it. If we planned a coup we certainly would have had a plan to prevent Crimea. No that wasn’t a secret that Russia wanted it. We gas lighted once the FSB/Alpa guys lit up Miadan that’s it |
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Originally Posted By R0N: It's not bad, but it changes the narrative and all the sudden the "those are Russian talking point arguments" go out the window. View Quote Any US support didn't materially or substantially change the cause or results. |
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"the science" /duh si-ens/ noun: progressive postmodern religious dogma not based in tested hypothesis or facts used to advance an authoritative political ideology
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Guessing this is a small boat, but the footage would be epic if it got hit with an ATGM.
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I recommend units with night vision gear. 5 hrs ago.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I recommend units with night vision gear. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmGxLI4XgAAkws5?format=jpg&name=small 5 hrs ago.
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Let us never forget, government has no resources of its own. Government can only give to us what it has previously taken from us.
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: IMO the Russian points are that the US caused it or without the US support it would have failed. Neither of those add up. Any US support didn't materially or substantially change the cause or results. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By R0N: It's not bad, but it changes the narrative and all the sudden the "those are Russian talking point arguments" go out the window. Any US support didn't materially or substantially change the cause or results. This is almost exactly what I was going to reply with. That line of thinking glosses right over a lot of nuance to the situation. The Russian talking point is the the only reason the revolution happened is because the US made it happen, not that it was an organic movement that the US may or may not have supported (I hope we did). |
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DeSantis 2024
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Cool patches of the day.
Їбаш = "Fuck Them Up" Attached File And of course, "Death from Above" from the new drone menace. |
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Originally Posted By Banditman: I bet they could easily be flooded. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Banditman: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I recommend units with night vision gear. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmGxLI4XgAAkws5?format=jpg&name=small 5 hrs ago.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmGUo51XwAESL0K?format=jpg&name=medium
I bet they could easily be flooded. Yea, among other things like sealing the entrance and exit points with precision munitions. I think the Ukrainians still are in the mines though from reports. this official word just posted 5 min ago.
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Yea, among other things like sealing the entrance and exit points with precision munitions. I think the Ukrainians still are in the mines though from reports. this official word just posted 5 min ago.
View Quote Or turn it into a giant tomb. Let the Russians "occupy" it and move equipment in |
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Originally Posted By Easterner: Or turn it into a giant tomb. Let the Russians "occupy" it and move equipment in View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Easterner: Or turn it into a giant tomb. Let the Russians "occupy" it and move equipment in View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Yea, among other things like sealing the entrance and exit points with precision munitions. I think the Ukrainians still are in the mines though from reports. this official word just posted 5 min ago.
Or turn it into a giant tomb. Let the Russians "occupy" it and move equipment in That's being discussed on Twitter in high volume as well. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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2 hrs ago, wish I had a translation of the video.
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By sq40: It’s incredible how many celebrities, athletes, prominent & wealthy people, are going to war for their country. It says so much about the Ukrainian Character, and how dire this war is. They have lost a fair number of those people too. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sq40: Originally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fl69kVcXkAEXCAt?format=jpg&name=medium https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fl5Czg6XoAAT1A8?format=png&name=900x900
It’s incredible how many celebrities, athletes, prominent & wealthy people, are going to war for their country. It says so much about the Ukrainian Character, and how dire this war is. They have lost a fair number of those people too. I was thinking the same thing. Women as well as men, for that matter. |
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Originally Posted By R0N: So Euromaaiden was the only color revolution the CIA was not involved in? View Quote They may have been, but the people of Ukraine threw the govt out after blatantly fucking them over on the EU trade deal. They had their line in the sand and the balls to back it up. They have way more balls than Americans. |
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World ain't what it seems, is it Gunny?
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Well it does seem that General Lapin is the new Russian commander of ground forces in Ukraine..
https://www.rbc.ru/politics/10/01/2023/63bd09389a794708391c3120 |
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Only God will judge me.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I recommend units with night vision gear. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmGxLI4XgAAkws5?format=jpg&name=small 5 hrs ago.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FmGUo51XwAESL0K?format=jpg&name=medium
View Quote If the stories of the Soviets storing weaponry and munitions there during the cold war era are true then the Russians have likely built it into a legend. The idiot orcs probably think it's some sort of El Dorado, a lost underground city of mythical weapons that will resupply their every need for the next century. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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Originally Posted By gentlemanfarmer: Nothing owned by the Swiss was allowed to be sold. Because Ukraine is a civil war bullshit. I’m sure the banking industry has nothing to do with it. View Quote Built on the gold of dead jews and the biggest money laundering corp. in the history of man. |
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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It's not stupid, it's advanced!!
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