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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:02:38 AM EST
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:11:13 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Charging_Handle: Thanks. It looks like the air defenses in the western part of the country were incredibly effective, much more so than in the southern, central or eastern portions of the country. I would assume that is because the Orcs use lots of S-300 missiles (which are incredibly hard to intercept) in these areas in ground attack mode. Yes and apparently certain cruise missiles are getting through. KH-22 and KH-47 are getting through. 'Among the missiles that were fired were 28 Kh-101 and Kh-555 air-launched cruise missiles, 20 Kalibr sea-launched cruise missiles, 13 S-300 surface-to-air missiles, eight Kh-31P and 6 –Kh-59 guided missiles, six Kh-47 Kinzhal missiles, and six Kh-22 missiles, according to Ukrainian state media." https://businessinsider.mx/russia-used-rarely-seen-ballistic-missile-massive-attack-on-ukraine-2023-3/ |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:38:17 AM EST
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Ukraine charging Antonov execs with treason. Reportedly kept the Mira at Hostomel despite opportunity to escape, and hindered base defense.
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Posted: 3/10/2023 7:09:37 AM EST
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mokerr: Not wanting to be involved in a European conflict that will literally have no impact on my own country is kind of a big one but this thread is convinced if the mighty Russian army takes Ukraine then the dominos will fall and western Europe will be behind the iron curtain. This is the same Russian army that is constantly made fun of for being inept and incapable btw. Doesn't make much sense if you think about it. Seems much more about weird cold war fantasies than current reality. I was paid 200 rubles for this post btw. Glory to lord Putin or whatever. Just put my order in for war trinkets Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mokerr: Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts: Originally Posted By RockNwood: There seem to be two anti-Ukraine camps not counting the Russian shills: 1) broken spirits. So disillusioned with US govt they are anti-everything. No foreign involvement, 10%, fuck Europe, etc 2) Nuke panickers. They are frozen by Putin chanting Nuke Nuke Nuke. They have no solution but can only claim we can’t antagonize Putin becuz the Nukes. 1. I certainly understand how it would be easy to get disillusioned with the U.S. gov. 2. Well, growing up, my default assumption was the Russians would nuke us, so that part doesn't bother me at all. Not wanting to be involved in a European conflict that will literally have no impact on my own country is kind of a big one but this thread is convinced if the mighty Russian army takes Ukraine then the dominos will fall and western Europe will be behind the iron curtain. This is the same Russian army that is constantly made fun of for being inept and incapable btw. Doesn't make much sense if you think about it. Seems much more about weird cold war fantasies than current reality. I was paid 200 rubles for this post btw. Glory to lord Putin or whatever. Just put my order in for war trinkets I know you were trying to be honest with the first part “that has no impact….” But that is the problem and where a lot of people are dead wrong or just choose to be ignorant about. You’re welcome in this thread unless you start trolling. Thats the mods choice and obvious when many people have done it. Most people on this thread wanting to know about or talk about the war are anti-Russian or pro-Ukraine or both. I tend to stay out of the echo chamber threads on the reverse which are all over arfcom being led by the (legit) Q thread contributors, the “Release the Kraken” contributors, and several other “forgettable causes” contributors. Echo chambers are not exclusive. Stay as long as you want and ask real questions and we can engage in an actual conversion. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 7:53:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saltwater-Hillbilly: Pat Buchannan actually made that argument. I personally blame the Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor, Invasion of the Philippines, and seizure of Guam and Wake Island, but I guess we could just have ignored the attacks directly on the United States, the sinking of the battleships, etc. in their world. By the way, did you ask him what color the sky was there?  I think the argument is that we shouldn't have demanded the Japanese withdraw from China and shouldn't have cut off their oil. In that case they wouldn't have needed oil from the Dutch East Indies and would have never attacked Pearl Harbor. They would have had plenty to deal with managing east China as a colony. The Philippines would have become independent soon, anyway. The counterargument is that we would have then faced and industrial autocratic, militarized Japan with China's personnel resources. Who knows how that situation would develop? |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 7:55:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Da Vinci funeral
  
  
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Posted: 3/10/2023 7:56:07 AM EST
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Posted: 3/10/2023 7:59:01 AM EST
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Why do I keep having fantasies about the UA pulling out of Bahkmut and allowing a large concentration of RU troops to flood in, get settled for a bit and then learning that a half dozen MOAB’s “accidentally” were included in a recent arms shipment!
Talk about a soul crushing development for the few remaining RU infantry, and it would decimate Wagner. Not going to happen but the thought of it makes me happy. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:02:03 AM EST
[Last Edit: governmentman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20230310_120207_jpg-2740285.JPG  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/526834/IMG_20230310_120207_jpg-2740285.JPG Nice, just a helicopter and a boat away from a full scorecard Originally Posted By Scooter1942: Why do I keep having fantasies about the UA pulling out of Bahkmut and allowing a large concentration of RU troops to flood in, get settled for a bit and then learning that a half dozen MOAB’s “accidentally” were included in a recent arms shipment! That won't happen but it's a fun visual. What I keep coming back to is the idea that Bakhmut is a trap. Get Russia bogged down with a huge force tied up in urban combat. Recent aid promises have included a lot of mine clearing vehicles and also AVLBs. My hope is that these are intended for a fast armored push across the Bakhmutovka river above and below the attempted encirclement, meeting up behind them. M60 AVLB spans 60 feet, and the river is a fair bit less than that in narrow spots. Russia would be unable to salvage their spearhead as it is difficult to quickly fall back when actively engaged in urban combat, and the Bakhmutovka is at their backs. They lose the whole force, not just pieces like with the Kharkiv and Kherson front collapses. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:06:36 AM EST
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Wondering about the Kinzhal missile. Seems like a bad one. How difficult is it going to be for Russia to build these things? Seem generally simple enough except maybe for the guidance package. Looks like a buttload of solid rocket fuel in a tube with a bomb on one end, so not terribly expensive for the motor and the bomb. Can they produce guidance packages with enough quantity and quality to be a serious ongoing threat?
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:08:29 AM EST
[Last Edit: fadedsun]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Da Vinci funeral
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:09:21 AM EST
[Last Edit: AROKIE]
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With Yevgeny Prigozhin now saying today that Putin himself has cut him off from all support, with Wagner on the verge of taking Bahkmut. What does Wagner do? is putin now going to move in elite Russian forces to finish off the Ukrainian defenders of Bahkmut and claim victory? What will Yevgeny Prigozhin do if that's the case? I don't see many options on the table for wagner.. but seems that things are about to get very interesting.
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:09:34 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: Targets are air defense intercepts Flame is a strike The pattern of intercepts and non-intercepts is interesting. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:11:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vahog: The pattern of intercepts and non-intercepts is interesting. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vahog: Originally Posted By Easterner: Targets are air defense intercepts Flame is a strike The pattern of intercepts and non-intercepts is interesting. And still no word about the rumored armor that was supposedly hit that just got delivered out of Ukraine. I have a bad feeling they got a good part of what was just delivered. Let's hope it wasn't alot and not the Patriot system that just crossed the border |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:14:39 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: And still no word about the rumored armor that was supposedly hit that just got delivered out of Ukraine. I have a bad feeling they got a good part of what was just delivered. Let's hope it wasn't alot and not the Patriot system that just crossed the border Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By vahog: Originally Posted By Easterner: Targets are air defense intercepts Flame is a strike The pattern of intercepts and non-intercepts is interesting. And still no word about the rumored armor that was supposedly hit that just got delivered out of Ukraine. I have a bad feeling they got a good part of what was just delivered. Let's hope it wasn't alot and not the Patriot system that just crossed the border Wasn’t the only claim Russian? I’m sure locals would leak it if there was that big a hit on them at this point. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:17:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: Yes and apparently certain cruise missiles are getting through. KH-22 and KH-47 are getting through. 'Among the missiles that were fired were 28 Kh-101 and Kh-555 air-launched cruise missiles, 20 Kalibr sea-launched cruise missiles, 13 S-300 surface-to-air missiles, eight Kh-31P and 6 –Kh-59 guided missiles, six Kh-47 Kinzhal missiles, and six Kh-22 missiles, according to Ukrainian state media." https://businessinsider.mx/russia-used-rarely-seen-ballistic-missile-massive-attack-on-ukraine-2023-3/ Ah, thanks. That's the sort of thing what I was wondering about in my post above. The S-300's in the southeast makes sense. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:19:25 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fisherman: I'm going to have to agree with that. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fisherman: Originally Posted By RockNwood: There seem to be two anti-Ukraine camps not counting the Russian shills: 1) broken spirits. So disillusioned with US govt they are anti-everything. No foreign involvement, 10%, fuck Europe, etc 2) Nuke panickers. They are frozen by Putin chanting Nuke Nuke Nuke. They have no solution but can only claim we can’t antagonize Putin becuz the Nukes. I'm going to have to agree with that. i would add -- the uninformed / misinformed 'Tucker Carlson' type 'conservative'. basically the 'R' version of the low IQ Dem voter who watches MSNBC / CNN The View all day and doesn't get past that info stream. these quasi-conservatives see ANYTHING that the current president supports and are IMMEDIATELY and vehemently against it without seeking out deeper understanding they are a pretty vocal subset -- closely related to #1 above but distinct enough to mention -- because they likely supported GWOT, GW1, etc |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:20:52 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Feels awkward to agree with Vindman here. Looks like Ukraine was lucky Russia waited to invade.
So they have some edit audio of him saying some stuff? Wow Seems strange that would be his first option when he did stuff like this Trump, in 2018, had approved the $47 million sale of 210 Javelin anti-tank missiles and 37 launchers to Ukraine -- the first lethal military assistance provided to Ukraine by the U.S. in its fight against Russian-supported separatists since fighting began in 2014. Zelenskyy told Trump in the 2019 phone call that his government was "almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes," according to a readout of the call. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:29:03 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: So they have some edit audio of him saying some stuff? Wow Seems strange that would be his first option when he did stuff like this Trump, in 2018, had approved the $47 million sale of 210 Javelin anti-tank missiles and 37 launchers to Ukraine -- the first lethal military assistance provided to Ukraine by the U.S. in its fight against Russian-supported separatists since fighting began in 2014. Zelenskyy told Trump in the 2019 phone call that his government was "almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes," according to a readout of the call. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:31:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: If so, some traitors need shot Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By AROKIE: I have a feeling they did strike some. If they did, that video and info would be everywhere, geo located and spread on Russian and Wagner channels like you would not believe. Then confirmed on Ukrainian and Western media as a real newsworthy talking point. Russian ISR is worse than we thought, they can't even hit a HIMARS that is actively firing at their positions. What missiles the Ukrainians don't shoot down end up hitting apartments and swamps. If they hit something important like a shipment of tanks, we would hear about it. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:34:00 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: If they did, that video and info would be everywhere, geo located and spread on Russian and Wagner channels like you would not believe. Then confirmed on Ukrainian and Western media as a real newsworthy talking point. Russian ISR is worse than we thought, they can't even hit a HIMARS that is actively firing at their positions. What missiles the Ukrainians don't shoot down end up hitting apartments and swamps. If they hit something important like a shipment of tanks, we would hear about it. I'm inclined to agree. You would have seen it by now. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:34:54 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: And still no word about the rumored armor that was supposedly hit that just got delivered out of Ukraine. I have a bad feeling they got a good part of what was just delivered. Let's hope it wasn't alot and not the Patriot system that just crossed the border I don't think that is likely. (I can't say it didn't happen, right?) The Russians strikes have hit infrastructure including, early on, some vehicle repair facilities, but we haven't heard about them hitting ANYTHING moving like a train, and we haven't had many videos of Russian strikes with secondary explosions and what not. Surely the Ukrainians, even if prompted by the West, have taken measures to make it difficult to locate and hit a significant vehicle park with the most important vehicles they have received since HIMARs. We'll see. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:50:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Wasn’t the only claim Russian? I’m sure locals would leak it if there was that big a hit on them at this point. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By vahog: Originally Posted By Easterner: Targets are air defense intercepts Flame is a strike The pattern of intercepts and non-intercepts is interesting. And still no word about the rumored armor that was supposedly hit that just got delivered out of Ukraine. I have a bad feeling they got a good part of what was just delivered. Let's hope it wasn't alot and not the Patriot system that just crossed the border Wasn’t the only claim Russian? I’m sure locals would leak it if there was that big a hit on them at this point. The abnormal silence from Ukraine is unusual and the fact they admitted there air defense was "sub-par" this attack was a new admission... I'm still speculating, but thise two facts tell me something big was taken out |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:54:02 AM EST
[Last Edit: AROKIE]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: If they did, that video and info would be everywhere, geo located and spread on Russian and Wagner channels like you would not believe. Then confirmed on Ukrainian and Western media as a real newsworthy talking point. Russian ISR is worse than we thought, they can't even hit a HIMARS that is actively firing at their positions. What missiles the Ukrainians don't shoot down end up hitting apartments and swamps. If they hit something important like a shipment of tanks, we would hear about it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By AROKIE: I have a feeling they did strike some. If they did, that video and info would be everywhere, geo located and spread on Russian and Wagner channels like you would not believe. Then confirmed on Ukrainian and Western media as a real newsworthy talking point. Russian ISR is worse than we thought, they can't even hit a HIMARS that is actively firing at their positions. What missiles the Ukrainians don't shoot down end up hitting apartments and swamps. If they hit something important like a shipment of tanks, we would hear about it. No it would not, the places the armor comes across the border and are staged are not well known to even Ukrainian citizens because of that, and due to some citizens being spys, alot is done in the dark and snuck across at odd times and to clandestine areas...so no one would be there to film. They just won't "parade" a large convoy of a Patriot system down the main highway to a well known warehouse. This shit is highly done in a way that's not well known..but if russia has turned someone higher up, then yes they will know when and where a delivery will be.. the time of the missile strike was also not normal and was well covered as being at an odd time.. well weapon deliverys are made at night and at odd times in the dark. So put 2 and 2 together and you know why Russia struck with a large number of kinzhals and at the strange time they did so. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:54:41 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vahog: I don't think that is likely. (I can't say it didn't happen, right?) The Russians strikes have hit infrastructure including, early on, some vehicle repair facilities, but we haven't heard about them hitting ANYTHING moving like a train, and we haven't had many videos of Russian strikes with secondary explosions and what not. Surely the Ukrainians, even if prompted by the West, have taken measures to make it difficult to locate and hit a significant vehicle park with the most important vehicles they have received since HIMARs. We'll see. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vahog: Originally Posted By AROKIE: And still no word about the rumored armor that was supposedly hit that just got delivered out of Ukraine. I have a bad feeling they got a good part of what was just delivered. Let's hope it wasn't alot and not the Patriot system that just crossed the border I don't think that is likely. (I can't say it didn't happen, right?) The Russians strikes have hit infrastructure including, early on, some vehicle repair facilities, but we haven't heard about them hitting ANYTHING moving like a train, and we haven't had many videos of Russian strikes with secondary explosions and what not. Surely the Ukrainians, even if prompted by the West, have taken measures to make it difficult to locate and hit a significant vehicle park with the most important vehicles they have received since HIMARs. We'll see. I would also bet that the Western aid coming across the border into Ukraine would most likely have some serious anti missile capabilities in place to protect the rear areas before this aid gets distributed to the front. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 8:56:08 AM EST
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Reports in the last 3 hours claim Bakhumt front is under control.
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:00:54 AM EST
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NSFW!!!
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:05:20 AM EST
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We can crank the pain to 11 for Taiwan already.
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:06:54 AM EST
[Last Edit: AROKIE]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Ukraine charging Antonov execs with treason. Reportedly kept the Mira at Hostomel despite opportunity to escape, and hindered base defense. https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-crime/3680613-exmanagers-of-se-antonov-suspected-of-facilitating-destruction-of-mriya-aircraft.html https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/556465/FFB6056F-B4D0-4058-9DB3-AB3A8ED9F019_jpe-2740313.JPG Good! I always wondered since the US told them that airport was going to be the main target on day one that Milyra was still sitting there. They had every chance to move it but did not. Like they wanted to give it to russia. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:10:42 AM EST
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Oof.
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:11:50 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: There seem to be two anti-Ukraine camps not counting the Russian shills: 1) broken spirits. So disillusioned with US govt they are anti-everything. No foreign involvement, 10%, fuck Europe, etc 2) Nuke panickers. They are frozen by Putin chanting Nuke Nuke Nuke. They have no solution but can only claim we can’t antagonize Putin becuz the Nukes. You may have a point here. The "broken spirits" are 99% conservatives who feel betrayed and living in an enemy country while the "nuke panickers" are probably mostly democrats who are instinctively pacifist weaklings who abhor the concept of defense in general. As a lifelong conservative, I can understand both but feel the "nuke panickers" are more consistent and honest. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:13:25 AM EST
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Tactics being used.
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:14:33 AM EST
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:15:15 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoCalExile: Austin was still in the Army when Obama was president. And their BOSS Susan Rice was there under FBHO... |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:15:28 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mokerr: Not wanting to be involved in a European conflict that will literally have no impact on my own country is kind of a big one but this thread is convinced if the mighty Russian army takes Ukraine then the dominos will fall and western Europe will be behind the iron curtain. This is the same Russian army that is constantly made fun of for being inept and incapable btw. Doesn't make much sense if you think about it. Seems much more about weird cold war fantasies than current reality. I was paid 200 rubles for this post btw. Glory to lord Putin or whatever. Just put my order in for war trinkets Yet the same people had zero issues with wasting trillions on goat fucking retards for 20 years while the border was wide open at the same time. 20 years in Afghanistan for what? What exactly was the threat we faced from iraq? WMD's? lol. We are finally helping a country that has been under the thumb of communists and want the chance for self determination, freedom and democracy. You know, the things we we have touted to the world, along with the chance to get rid of a long term enemy without US troops in the mix. It's a free country here, and you can gargle all the commie balls you want. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:15:42 AM EST
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:18:10 AM EST
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:19:05 AM EST
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:22:01 AM EST
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And there it is.
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:23:05 AM EST
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:24:26 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DPeacher: It took a lot of time and effort to ID the participants of the 2nd flag raising on Mt. Suribachi. In fact, most people are unaware of the 1st. We shouldn't be surprised or dismayed if the ID of the Ukrainian hero changes several times before it gets resolved. The people who actually knew the guy are probably still out there around Bahkmut, maybe dead themselves and the guys family is probably not on tweeter or wherever looking at kill-vids. Not everyone fighting is a well known and famous internet personality or war footage poster. Anyway, until they recover the body, it's all just guessing. The US is so used to winning battles and wars that we forget what it's like to lose people AND territory and cannot simply collect our dead from behind enemy lines. 99% of our MIA are actually KIA lying in fields
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:24:42 AM EST
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406th is notorious for counter battery guided Excalibur use recently.
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:27:50 AM EST
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:31:04 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Who says satire is dead in 2023:
I’d love nothing more than for Orban to keep distancing himself from Russia more and more. Sadly. Energy infrastructure is a terrible noose to have around a small country. That said. I believe Hungary will turn the page… |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:31:17 AM EST
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TL:DR
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:33:37 AM EST
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:35:09 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: An Australian outfit is selling cardboard suicide drones to Ukraine. It was mentioned earlier in the thread. The report seemed to indicate the airframe alone was around $5k which is ridiculous. I would believe $5 for the airframe. I thought I read they cost around $4-500 total. Naturally high-end gear and cameras could increase that. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:36:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack67: Feels awkward to agree with Vindman here. Looks like Ukraine was lucky Russia waited to invade.
Who is Trump to decide what Ukraine should give up. More Trump and MAGA crowd talks the less and less I agree with their idiotic stances. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:38:02 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Someday there will be an F-16 there instead. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 9:38:56 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
Excellent. |
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