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Link Posted: 3/10/2023 1:38:34 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Originally Posted By borderpatrol:


If you think that Russia's plan to reestablish the former Soviet Union will not affect you or our country, you are seriously mistaken.

People and their governments should be free to associate and participate in international relationships as they please. Russia is forcing dominion over Ukraine with murder, rape, theft and destruction. They are acting the same as any gang member would do. If you can't see that we live on the same planet and have a moral obligation to stand up for what is right, then you should join Russia's army and fight like a man.

Never in my lifetime has any issue been more black and white. I am old and may not see the end of this conflict, but by God Russia has to lose.
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For the past 70 years, American conservatives have been willing and eager to help all sorts of nefarious folks and dubious causes all around the globe as long as it fights Ruskies or commies. But now, when white, Christian, Europeans who are essentially culturally America in 1950, want to fight fascists and live free in peace, some "conservative" idiots NOW want to say "no more foreign wars"? Fuck these stupid idiots who are too stupid or too morally decayed to see good .vs bad. They want to abandon good people because the bad people we tried to help in the past (A-stan) disappointed us?
Link Posted: 3/10/2023 1:53:57 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dracster:

They pretty much said when the first battalion was promised a few months ago that it was just a test run for the logistics trail and when the kinks were ironed out the floodgates were going to open. The Ukrainians continue to amaze people on how quickly they pick up new systems.
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Read an article once that talked about how being in a
life or death situation enhances the ability to learn.
Who would have thought?
Link Posted: 3/10/2023 1:54:30 PM EDT
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If you haven't watched "A Soviet Story" you're missing out on a great resource of how it got to this.   The last fifteen minutes or so calls it from back in 2008, Rehabilitating Stalin’s image, European dependencies on Russian gas and oil preventing them from calling out Russia, the fetishizing and adaptation of NAZI ideology (and then blaming the US when an execution went viral), dehumanizing Ukrainians and so on.


A much younger Putin calling the end of the Soviet Union one of the world’s great catastrophes.  (1:13:45)




Link Posted: 3/10/2023 1:57:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Russia saying and doing things to destabilize Moldova and Georgia:
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This is somewhat confusing. Isnt the "foreign agent" bill in Georgia to prevent outside (Russian) influence? I wish someone knowledgeable would explain the protests in Georgia. I know it's pro EU but how is the "foreign agent" law pro-Russian?

The foreign agent bill sounds anti-Soros and ostensibly makes sense to me. If you want to set up an NGO with foreign money to influence domestic policies and politics, you should "register" and state openly who/what is funding you. But maybe I'm missing some nuance...
Link Posted: 3/10/2023 2:02:53 PM EDT
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Our guys accurately determined the coordinates of the Katsap air defense system "Wasp" and destroyed it with a pinpoint strike.


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Originally Posted By Prime:
UA claiming seven boats sank near Kherson, not getting the sense that was all at once, but who knows.

Saw this a few days ago.


Videos




https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq3T7kPX0AAGK-h?format=jpg&name=large
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Isn't that the boat just to the right of the X ?
Link Posted: 3/10/2023 2:08:55 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By weptek911:


Don’t forget 3) the people  that have a sweaty man love crush on Putin because he’s a strong man that rides bears while shirtless and loves his country and Christian warrior values.
The cult of personality around this hairless manlet is amazing. They aren’t called Putin Dick suckers for nothing.
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I've never personally tasted Putin cock and always thought his shirtless photoshoots were comical, but prior to his invasion, I found it refreshing that a nation's leader was the unashamed defender of his nation. It was in stark contrast to the US at a time when our history and culture were under constant criticism and attack, especially by our own politicians. Maybe some other conservatives got their favorable view of Putin in the same way. All that went away on Feb 24th and I dont know how anyone could look at Putin now with admiration.
Link Posted: 3/10/2023 2:19:44 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By m35ben:
Isn't that the boat just to the right of the X ?
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Along the shore? Probably.
When I first saw all those images, I'll be honest, I thought "the boys will be able to figure out all this mess"

I think the x means where the boat was witnessed being hit in the video.

Link Posted: 3/10/2023 2:22:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capta:

I’ll go a bit farther and suggest that 1) has a fair number of people who consider the other side of the aisle their literal enemies and fantasize about the day they can start shooting their neighbors.
There has been more than a little of that on this site.
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Question: Is that "fair number of people" who "fantasize about the day they can start shooting their neighbors" a metaphor? or, is it more like they are fantasizing about someone who would say, "what difference does it make?", or, "we need to pass it to see what's in it", or "mfakhbpkng'v'lkn'd;fnf"?
Link Posted: 3/10/2023 2:22:33 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:

Along the shore? Probably.
When I first saw all those images, I'll be honest, I thought "the boys will be able to figure out all this mess"

I think the x means where the boat was witnessed being hit in the video.

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Okay
Link Posted: 3/10/2023 2:24:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

Fucking A!! A year late but good news. Hope its true and not just 31 tanks.
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Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
And there it is.






Fucking A!! A year late but good news. Hope its true and not just 31 tanks.

Link to OG article
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Link Posted: 3/10/2023 2:49:26 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

This is somewhat confusing. Isnt the "foreign agent" bill in Georgia to prevent outside (Russian) influence? I wish someone knowledgeable would explain the protests in Georgia. I know it's pro EU but how is the "foreign agent" law pro-Russian?

The foreign agent bill sounds anti-Soros and ostensibly makes sense to me. If you want to set up an NGO with foreign money to influence domestic policies and politics, you should "register" and state openly who/what is funding you. But maybe I'm missing some nuance...
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Russia saying and doing things to destabilize Moldova and Georgia:

This is somewhat confusing. Isnt the "foreign agent" bill in Georgia to prevent outside (Russian) influence? I wish someone knowledgeable would explain the protests in Georgia. I know it's pro EU but how is the "foreign agent" law pro-Russian?

The foreign agent bill sounds anti-Soros and ostensibly makes sense to me. If you want to set up an NGO with foreign money to influence domestic policies and politics, you should "register" and state openly who/what is funding you. But maybe I'm missing some nuance...


It comes down to freedom of the press and pre-conditions to join the EU (and move out of Russia’s claws). If the govt can control the press, well, how free and democratic are you. Similar laws have been pushed elsewhere by Russian-aligned regimes. See this linked article for more info:

Link Posted: 3/10/2023 2:50:39 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By kpacman:



I think you missed a third.

Politics is so partisan these days, I believe many adopt an anti-Ukrainian stance solely because it is the diametric opposite stance that Biden has take.

I'm convinced that if the Dem's had decided not to support Ukraine, these same right wing tards whining about the cost of support would be the most fervid supporters of Ukraine's cause.
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Originally Posted By kpacman:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:

There seem to be two anti-Ukraine camps not counting the Russian shills:

1) broken spirits. So disillusioned with US govt they are anti-everything. No foreign involvement, 10%, fuck Europe, etc

2) Nuke panickers. They are frozen by Putin chanting Nuke Nuke Nuke. They have no solution but can only claim we can't antagonize Putin becuz the Nukes.



I think you missed a third.

Politics is so partisan these days, I believe many adopt an anti-Ukrainian stance solely because it is the diametric opposite stance that Biden has take.

I'm convinced that if the Dem's had decided not to support Ukraine, these same right wing tards whining about the cost of support would be the most fervid supporters of Ukraine's cause.
100% this
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"they'll move"


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Originally Posted By UKjohn:
100% this
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Originally Posted By UKjohn:
Originally Posted By kpacman:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:

There seem to be two anti-Ukraine camps not counting the Russian shills:

1) broken spirits. So disillusioned with US govt they are anti-everything. No foreign involvement, 10%, fuck Europe, etc

2) Nuke panickers. They are frozen by Putin chanting Nuke Nuke Nuke. They have no solution but can only claim we can't antagonize Putin becuz the Nukes.



I think you missed a third.

Politics is so partisan these days, I believe many adopt an anti-Ukrainian stance solely because it is the diametric opposite stance that Biden has take.

I'm convinced that if the Dem's had decided not to support Ukraine, these same right wing tards whining about the cost of support would be the most fervid supporters of Ukraine's cause.
100% this


Contrarianism is a mental disability.
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Link Posted: 3/10/2023 3:29:01 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:

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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
And there it is.






Fucking A!! A year late but good news. Hope its true and not just 31 tanks.

Link to OG article

I don't know if the report is any different than what has been said before....

"Late last month, Army Secretary Christine Wormuth said the Army would not be able to get tanks to Ukraine for at least months and quite possibly not before the end of this year.

“There are longer timelines involved, but I think there are options that are less than two years, less than a year-and-a-half,” she said."
Link Posted: 3/10/2023 3:33:09 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MachRider:


Contrarianism is a mental disability.
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Originally Posted By MachRider:
Originally Posted By UKjohn:
Originally Posted By kpacman:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:

There seem to be two anti-Ukraine camps not counting the Russian shills:

1) broken spirits. So disillusioned with US govt they are anti-everything. No foreign involvement, 10%, fuck Europe, etc

2) Nuke panickers. They are frozen by Putin chanting Nuke Nuke Nuke. They have no solution but can only claim we can't antagonize Putin becuz the Nukes.



I think you missed a third.

Politics is so partisan these days, I believe many adopt an anti-Ukrainian stance solely because it is the diametric opposite stance that Biden has take.

I'm convinced that if the Dem's had decided not to support Ukraine, these same right wing tards whining about the cost of support would be the most fervid supporters of Ukraine's cause.
100% this


Contrarianism is a mental disability.



It’s pervasive. Once you see it it can’t be unseen. Even in little things, many people’s knee-jerk reaction is “no” (even if the answer is yes and yes is the next word out of their mouths).
Link Posted: 3/10/2023 3:34:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MachRider:


Contrarianism is a mental disability.
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It has to be , i am seeing faces in gd who two years back i would stop and read and respect , now i think "have I logged on the right site  "
Link Posted: 3/10/2023 3:42:56 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By klinc:


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/106468/20230309_174108_jpg-2739962.JPG



One is for my dad that waited for these things to cross the line in Germany back when.
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Originally Posted By Erno86:
Originally Posted By klinc:
Originally Posted By thehun06:
Ordered my first MemorySteelUA setup from the initial invasion ... Russia ... just leave ....


Ordered 3 keychain ones on Feb 11th... Got notified a couple hours ago they are in my mailbox.


I just received in the mail yesterday...my laser etched Ruzzkie T-72 steel tank skin keychain momento, that was "MADE IN RUSSIA RECYCLED IN UKRAINE".

"Attack on Bakhmut by column of Ukrainian armored vehicles --- Russian positions shelled at close range"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t2vRfpkjOQ




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One is for my dad that waited for these things to cross the line in Germany back when.


Does that QR go to tank pics or just to their website?

Link Posted: 3/10/2023 3:45:11 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zam18th:


Does that QR go to tank pics or just to their website?

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Mine were a little different but they link to pics of the tank it was cut off of
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:

I can only imagine the litany of charges if the same standard of due diligence was used on the US fiasco in Kabul...
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Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By Jack67:
Ukraine charging Antonov execs with treason. Reportedly kept the Mira at Hostomel despite opportunity to escape, and hindered base defense.

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-crime/3680613-exmanagers-of-se-antonov-suspected-of-facilitating-destruction-of-mriya-aircraft.html

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/556465/FFB6056F-B4D0-4058-9DB3-AB3A8ED9F019_jpe-2740313.JPG

I can only imagine the litany of charges if the same standard of due diligence was used on the US fiasco in Kabul...


The issue is more than bad choices or incompetence, like with Afghanistan. They are implying - I am pretty sure - genuine treason.

I have heard whispers that the very early days of the 2022 invasion were enabled by treason of quite a few officials, particularly in the south and the loss of most of the Kherson and Zaporizhzhia oblasts.  The story wrt the Anotonov execs is two-fold, a) they hindered pre-invasion attempts to co-ordinate airport defense and troop deployment, and b) on 2/24, with the Mirya actually fueled, crewed, and engines turning, they refused to let it fly to their alternate base in Leipzig, Germany.  They apparently made the crew shut it down and leave it at Hostomel to await the Russians.

I have been waiting/looking a long time for a story about the Southern front and collapse to find out if similar mechanisms were at play.
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Originally Posted By UKjohn:
It has to be , i am seeing faces in gd who two years back i would stop and read and respect , now i think "have I logged on the right site  "
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Blame it on Covid. Blame it on the stress it has caused. Road rage is out of control. Murders in the US are up. Inflation is forcing some to wonder how are they going to stay where they live. Maybe some of the "no war" crowd just has had it with the politicians, hate, state gov't media and lack of overall lack of accountability. I would vote for Utopia too. Maybe many just aren't seeing far enough in the future. When I am at work I wonder how some of my co-workers made it this far in life. Maybe many are just lazy when thinking about critical complex issues?
Link Posted: 3/10/2023 3:49:22 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Zam18th:


Does that QR go to tank pics or just to their website?

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This is where mine goes to: http://photos.app.goo.gl/fkyhVP8M4P41B6Q28
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"Ukrainian Troops Defend Bakhmut's Northern Flank From Russian Attacks"
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Ukrainian Troops Defend Bakhmut's Northern Flank From Russian Attacks
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Originally Posted By Hate_Work:

I don't know if the report is any different than what has been said before....

"Late last month, Army Secretary Christine Wormuth said the Army would not be able to get tanks to Ukraine for at least months and quite possibly not before the end of this year.

“There are longer timelines involved, but I think there are options that are less than two years, less than a year-and-a-half,” she said."
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I’m optimistic.
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Dima running his mouth again.
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Originally Posted By SoCalExile:
This is where mine goes to: http://photos.app.goo.gl/fkyhVP8M4P41B6Q28
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BAD

ASS


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"Ukrainian fighters hiding on hills open fire at the advancing Russians on the river bank"
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Ukrainian fighters hiding on hills open fire at the advancing Russians on the river bank
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Confirmation that Georgia is wiggling loose from Russian control.

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one less Russian apologist. Oswald just got the Hammer.
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"Ukrainian soldiers host an American soldier with their national meal"
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Ukrainian soldiers host an American soldier with their national meal
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Former Ukrainian POW speaks:
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"Russian soldiers fire huge handheld rocket launchers at Ukrainian troops"
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Russian soldiers fire huge handheld rocket launchers at Ukrainian troops
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Originally Posted By mokerr:


Not wanting to be involved  in a European conflict that will literally have no impact on my own country is kind of a big one but this thread is convinced if the mighty Russian army takes Ukraine then the dominos will fall and western Europe will be behind the iron curtain. This is the same Russian army that is constantly made fun of for being inept and incapable btw. Doesn't make much sense if you think about it. Seems much more about weird cold war fantasies than current reality.

I was paid 200 rubles for this post btw. Glory to lord Putin or whatever. Just put my order in for war trinkets
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Originally Posted By mokerr:
Originally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:

There seem to be two anti-Ukraine camps not counting the Russian shills:

1) broken spirits. So disillusioned with US govt they are anti-everything. No foreign involvement, 10%, fuck Europe, etc

2) Nuke panickers. They are frozen by Putin chanting Nuke Nuke Nuke. They have no solution but can only claim we can't antagonize Putin becuz the Nukes.


1. I certainly understand how it would be easy to get disillusioned with the U.S. gov.
2. Well, growing up, my default assumption was the Russians would nuke us, so that part doesn't bother me at all.


Not wanting to be involved  in a European conflict that will literally have no impact on my own country is kind of a big one but this thread is convinced if the mighty Russian army takes Ukraine then the dominos will fall and western Europe will be behind the iron curtain. This is the same Russian army that is constantly made fun of for being inept and incapable btw. Doesn't make much sense if you think about it. Seems much more about weird cold war fantasies than current reality.

I was paid 200 rubles for this post btw. Glory to lord Putin or whatever. Just put my order in for war trinkets

It makes plenty of sense, unless you're trying to make things fit your preconceived conclusions.

1 Russia is willing to sacrifice large amounts of men to offset their incompetence.
2 Russia learns. They may be slow at it but they adapt.
3 If successful, they will absorb the economic, industrial, agricultural, technological power of Ukraine and Belarus. Not to mention adding 40+ million people.
4 Sanctions will eventually lose steam and reinvigorate their defense industry.

This Russia may not currently be an acute threat to the rest of Europe but Russia 2.0 will be. The only Cold War fantasies here are people who want to stop another half of a century long cold war before it begins.
Roll that up in your rubles and smoke it.

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Originally Posted By Hate_Work:

Question: Is that "fair number of people" who "fantasize about the day they can start shooting their neighbors" a metaphor? or, is it more like they are fantasizing about someone who would say, "what difference does it make?", or, "we need to pass it to see what's in it", or "mfakhbpkng'v'lkn'd;fnf"?
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Originally Posted By Hate_Work:
Originally Posted By Capta:

I’ll go a bit farther and suggest that 1) has a fair number of people who consider the other side of the aisle their literal enemies and fantasize about the day they can start shooting their neighbors.
There has been more than a little of that on this site.

Question: Is that "fair number of people" who "fantasize about the day they can start shooting their neighbors" a metaphor? or, is it more like they are fantasizing about someone who would say, "what difference does it make?", or, "we need to pass it to see what's in it", or "mfakhbpkng'v'lkn'd;fnf"?


So much of what you read on this site or the internet as a whole is based around people unhappy with their own life. Fantasizing about resets and civil war is a prime example. Tribalism is a coping mechanism that simplifies and assigns all of life’s issues to a singular political boogeyman.

It challenges the faith when that boogeyman seemingly does good. It has to be a trick, fake, or for some other reason.

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