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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:33:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:36:12 PM EDT
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Russian bomber part souvenirs make it to Congress:
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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:37:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Russia saying and doing things to destabilize Moldova and Georgia:
Just defending themselves from globohomo nato.  |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:37:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: one less Russian apologist. Oswald just got the Hammer. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:39:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Which thread? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By ludder093: one less Russian apologist. Oswald just got the Hammer. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:49:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TheHunstman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: He took a shit in my where were you on 9/11 thread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By ludder093: one less Russian apologist. Oswald just got the Hammer. What a thing to lie about just for some thread glory... 
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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:51:03 PM EDT
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WOW.
That last part is breathtaking. 
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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:55:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By SoCalExile: This is where mine goes to: http://photos.app.goo.gl/fkyhVP8M4P41B6Q28 BAD ASS https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/BA_JPG-2740766.jpg lol, I always get a kick out of the "Wolverines" spray painted on real destroyed Russian armor. 
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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:55:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: WOW. That last part is breathtaking. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq4lqCvX0FUweOF?format=jpg&name=medium
You convinced me that what Russia is doing isn’t wrong or bad. Congrats. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 4:56:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Soon...
They better not drag their feet getting set up. I suspect China will be feeding them imagery/info to help target them asap. Causing us and Patriot to lose face would be worth it to them. I'm kind of surprised they aren't holding them in Poland until they have several systems ready. Anyone remember what their radar coverage is like? Was it 90 degrees or something? |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:00:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: one less Russian apologist. Oswald just got the Hammer.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:05:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:08:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Former Ukrainian POW speaks:
When my ex was getting ready to leave for Afghanistan, I told her, "if I got captured on deployment, I'd have my head cut off. If you got captured, you'd be raped repeatedly and then have your head cut off. Dont be pulling a Jessica Lynch." She didn't really appreciate the advice.
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:10:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: They better not drag their feet getting set up. I suspect China will be feeding them imagery/info to help target them asap. Causing us and Patriot to lose face would be worth it to them. I'm kind of surprised they aren't holding them in Poland until they have several systems ready. Anyone remember what their radar coverage is like? Was it 90 degrees or something? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Soon...
They better not drag their feet getting set up. I suspect China will be feeding them imagery/info to help target them asap. Causing us and Patriot to lose face would be worth it to them. I'm kind of surprised they aren't holding them in Poland until they have several systems ready. Anyone remember what their radar coverage is like? Was it 90 degrees or something? They can add radars to the units for more coverage, it's a modular system. They can also network with other radars for longer ranges. I'm fine with them being a target, that's actually partly the point. They can drain expensive Russian guided weapons stocks that would otherwise be hitting Ukrainian energy infrastructure or residential areas. They won't be deployed half assed, there is certainly things going on of a classified nature of how many, where and when they get set up. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:13:11 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:15:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:17:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:20:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: What are they training on? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
I'm guessing it's a nod toward F-16's |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:21:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:24:54 PM EDT
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Air raid sirens in Donetsk and Zaporizhzhia.
Shelling in Kherson. (Oblasts) |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:26:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Paki is on a close out sale lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By HIPPO: hopefully they throw in some paki tape for free.  The Failing Economy of Pakistan | Economics Explained |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:31:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: one less Russian apologist. Oswald just got the Hammer. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:34:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: He took a shit in my where were you on 9/11 thread. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By ludder093: one less Russian apologist. Oswald just got the Hammer. Good ban. Fuck that guy. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:39:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Someday there will be an F-16 there instead. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 
Someday there will be an F-16 there instead. HIMARS. Not sure there has ever been or ever will be an example of a system that made such an impact in such relatively limited numbers. But an F-16 would be cool. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:43:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: What are they training on? |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:45:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: HIMARS. Not sure there has ever been or ever will be an example of a system that made such an impact in such relatively limited numbers. But an F-16 would be cool. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:48:23 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:48:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: one less Russian apologist. Oswald just got the Hammer. I never blocked anyone on this site...until March of last year. I have almost 40 on my retard list currently.
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AL, USA
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:54:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: Good ban. Fuck that guy. Perfect example of addition by subtraction. Happy trails |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:55:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Capta]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HIPPO: Russia saying and doing things to destabilize Moldova and Georgia:
They probably are getting frisky in Moldova but starting shit in Georgia is the last thing they want. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:56:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: weptek911]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ludder093: one less Russian apologist. Oswald just got the Hammer. LOL link? * edit NM posted above |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 5:59:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryI'll take "Unintended Consequences for 1,000, Alex." Win or lose in Ukraine, Russia is going to be facing a significantly up-gunned NATO/Europe at the end of this war, which was precisely one of Putin's casus belli. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:03:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Don’t forget 3) the people that have a sweaty man love crush on Putin because he’s a strong man that rides bears while shirtless and loves his country and Christian warrior values. The cult of personality around this hairless manlet is amazing. They aren’t called Putin Dick suckers for nothing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By weptek911: Originally Posted By fisherman: Originally Posted By RockNwood: There seem to be two anti-Ukraine camps not counting the Russian shills: 1) broken spirits. So disillusioned with US govt they are anti-everything. No foreign involvement, 10%, fuck Europe, etc 2) Nuke panickers. They are frozen by Putin chanting Nuke Nuke Nuke. They have no solution but can only claim we can’t antagonize Putin becuz the Nukes. I'm going to have to agree with that. Don’t forget 3) the people that have a sweaty man love crush on Putin because he’s a strong man that rides bears while shirtless and loves his country and Christian warrior values. The cult of personality around this hairless manlet is amazing. They aren’t called Putin Dick suckers for nothing. Check out the video I posted early, specifically the part on Ivan Ilyin. A huge part of Putin’s image comes from Ivan Ilyin’s works advocating for Christian Fascism.  The Ideology of Putin's Russia |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:10:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: WOW. That last part is breathtaking. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq4lqCvX0FUweOF?format=jpg&name=medium
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:12:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: lol, I always get a kick out of the "Wolverines" spray painted on real destroyed Russian armor. Is that real? Please tell me that's real |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:12:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74HC: Many seem to overlook the last part. Yes, Trump was the first president to provide lethal aid to Ukraine but he wasn't the first president of the russian invasion. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 74HC: Originally Posted By CPT_CAVEMAN: So they have some edit audio of him saying some stuff? Wow Seems strange that would be his first option when he did stuff like this Trump, in 2018, had approved the $47 million sale of 210 Javelin anti-tank missiles and 37 launchers to Ukraine -- the first lethal military assistance provided to Ukraine by the U.S. in its fight against Russian-supported separatists since fighting began in 2014. Zelenskyy told Trump in the 2019 phone call that his government was "almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United States for defense purposes," according to a readout of the call. Actually no one has overlooked the last part. It is common knowledge and has been repeated many, many times. Unfortunately what is being overlooked is that Congress (the legislative) demanded this happen and Trump (the executive) complied. And in complying the Trump admin required them to be kept locked up and unused in Kiev. So he supplied them at congressional requirement and then prevented their use. Not one Javelin was ever used in Ukraine prior to 2/24/22. All of this has been stated many, many times. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:14:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Video in tweet.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq3jki8WAAAoAy1?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq3jki-XgAIHNQ8?format=jpg&name=large Up until say, 1995 or so, most of that area was closed to just military and their families. A lot of the military infrastructure isn't super secure by Western standards because there wasn't anyone to secure it from until the last 20-30 years. Having said that, decent chance the thing just burned from routine negligence rather than partisan action. Not a lot of partisans in that area. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:15:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:16:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime:
Looks like multiple AKs had multiple jams/malfunctions in that short clip. Interesting |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:17:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts: Up until say, 1995 or so, most of that area was closed to just military and their families. A lot of the military infrastructure isn't super secure by Western standards because there wasn't anyone to secure it from until the last 20-30 years. Having said that, decent chance the thing just burned from routine negligence rather than partisan action. Not a lot of partisans in that area. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bartholomew_Roberts: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Video in tweet.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq3jki8WAAAoAy1?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fq3jki-XgAIHNQ8?format=jpg&name=large Up until say, 1995 or so, most of that area was closed to just military and their families. A lot of the military infrastructure isn't super secure by Western standards because there wasn't anyone to secure it from until the last 20-30 years. Having said that, decent chance the thing just burned from routine negligence rather than partisan action. Not a lot of partisans in that area. The first video has someone lightning gasoline or some flammable liquid. That's some serious routine negligence.
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:18:30 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Cobradriver: I never blocked anyone on this site...until March of last year. I have almost 40 on my retard list currently. 62. Curiously, like you phrased it, “xx retard” is precisely what I put in the “reason” box that pops up. ;) Originally Posted By Capta: They probably getting frisky in Moldova but starting shit in Georgia is the last thing they want. Moldova is already gone and there’s little downside to messing around a bit. It won’t change the outcome and may do some minor damage. Georgia has bigger ramifications and there’s massive downside to provoking it. If they do so, it’s an act of extreme desperation. It will be telling. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:20:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet: Is that real? Please tell me that's real That happened pretty early on, there were a few of these.
 
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:23:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By GLHX2112: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Oof.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/79948/Bloody_Hell-2740600.jpg What the fuck was that? |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:26:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Bakhmut video https://www.tiktok.com/@_makkksssss_/video/7208830618262719750 Looked like prisoner extraction in one, and the end of a M113. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:26:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Capta: Check out the video I posted early, specifically the part on Ivan Ilyin. A huge part of Putin’s image comes from Ivan Ilyin’s works advocating for Christian Fascism.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdFtqa54TuMWatch the "Critique of realism" video, as well.  A Critique of Realism Good explanation of what is actually at stake and why if Russia is not opposed in Ukraine now, the cost will be alot higher than some weapons and ammo. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:26:25 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:27:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: [/b] For the past 70 years, American conservatives have been willing and eager to help all sorts of nefarious folks and dubious causes all around the globe as long as it fights Ruskies or commies. But now, when white, Christian, Europeans who are essentially culturally America in 1950, want to fight fascists and live free in peace, some "conservative" idiots NOW want to say "no more foreign wars"? Fuck these stupid idiots who are too stupid or too morally decayed to see good .vs bad. They want to abandon good people because the bad people we tried to help in the past (A-stan) disappointed us? IMO those opposed to helping Ukraine remain a minority, both Democrats and Republicans. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:27:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:28:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: This is somewhat confusing. Isnt the "foreign agent" bill in Georgia to prevent outside (Russian) influence? I wish someone knowledgeable would explain the protests in Georgia. I know it's pro EU but how is the "foreign agent" law pro-Russian? The foreign agent bill sounds anti-Soros and ostensibly makes sense to me. If you want to set up an NGO with foreign money to influence domestic policies and politics, you should "register" and state openly who/what is funding you. But maybe I'm missing some nuance... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By HIPPO: Russia saying and doing things to destabilize Moldova and Georgia:
This is somewhat confusing. Isnt the "foreign agent" bill in Georgia to prevent outside (Russian) influence? I wish someone knowledgeable would explain the protests in Georgia. I know it's pro EU but how is the "foreign agent" law pro-Russian? The foreign agent bill sounds anti-Soros and ostensibly makes sense to me. If you want to set up an NGO with foreign money to influence domestic policies and politics, you should "register" and state openly who/what is funding you. But maybe I'm missing some nuance... Georgia is currently run by a Russian-friendly party which eventually came to power since 2008, and the foreign agent bill is to made it more difficult to criticize them. |
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Posted: 3/10/2023 6:32:40 PM EDT
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Suyi控 @partizan_oleg has done yeoman work -- here's a T-72 thread by him:
https://twitter.com/partizan_oleg/status/1633166853664276480 I tried to sort out Russian T-72 stockpiles with limited sources and many assumptions, and here it is: 1/n Russian military basically stopped to build new T-72 hulls for its own armed forces since the fall of the Soviet Union. From 2013 some 1100 T-72B3/B3Ms were converted from existing T-72B hulls. So the Russian T-72 stockpile maintained unchanged since 1991. 2/n According to Internet sources (!!) that I can not 100% be sure, some 18,000 T-72s were made before the Soviet breakup. 3/n According to Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI)'s International Arms Transfer Database (which is, frankly speaking, not 100% accurate), some 7400 T-72s were exported by the USSR from 1970 to 1991. 4/n According to V.Feskov (2013) , a total of 5144 T-72s were fielded by the USSR as of late 1980s in the CFE area (excl. Siberia, Central Asian, Turkestan, Transbaikal, and Far East MDs). A couple of divisions were missing in these charts but they won't make a big difference. 5/n Post-USSR Central Asian republics (Turkestan+Central Asian MD) obtained some 1800-2000 T-72s. 6/n The Transbaikal MD (incl. the 39th Army in Mongolia) was another major user of the T-72: no less than 1400 should had been fielded; the Far Eastern MD, however, was fielded with T-80s. 7/n If we add these numbers up, we have the number of 7400+5144+1800+1400=15700. Given that the first batch of T-72s were introduced in 1970, which was 20 yrs before the end of the Soviet Army, it is possible that some 2000 early T-72 Urals had already been retired from service. 8/n The Soviet Army ended in 1991 with some 8300 T-72 tanks. Among them, ~1800 were acquired by Central Asian countries, ~800 acquired by Trancaucasus countries, ~1160 acquired by Belarus, ~600 by Ukraine. 9/n Russian Federation also exported some 500 T-72s (excluding those newly-built for India) from 1991-2021. That gives the number left as 3440. I think this may be close to the actual number of T-72s that Russian has got before the war. Among them some 1961 were in active service.10/ What was unexpected by me is that the calculated amount of T-72s (some 1500) in storage is much fewer than what I assumed before. (I thought there could have been 7000!) And many of them are probably not in a good shape. 11/n Now that 1000 T-72s are confirmed lost by @oryxspioenkop , which was 1/2 of Russian's pre-war active T-72 fleet and maybe more than 1/3.5 of its total T-72 fleet. I think the actual loss number should be ~40% higher (1400 pieces lost/unserviceable). 12/n The more important thing is that it may already have been impossible for the Russians to compensate its T-72 losses from its reserve even with earlier types e.g. the T-72 Ural. 13/end Also Russia has expended all of it's starting useable ammo -- we're starting to see older shells recycled into 2022-marked ammunition boxes (refurbished ammo) as well as brand new (2022) shells. Ukraine also has this problem -- they were starting to fling 203mm concrete piercing rounds since that's all they got left for their 203s. But Ukraine now can gain access to the entire world's 105/155 stockpile. Russia....can't really. Nobody really makes 122/152 in large numbers anymore, and you can only get so many shells "under the table" from China/North Korea before it becomes a problem that the West solves through sanctions. |
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