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Link Posted: 4/11/2023 10:59:50 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:
Probably too late to get these to Ukraine, but seems like it could be a major factor for the future of artillery.

Essentially a 155mm fired mini version of the Small Diameter Bomb, with a 150km range.

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As cool as these things are they cost too much and don’t damage enough. The raw math is unfortunate it’s like the s300 we sold so many of to Ukraine. It’s a 50 grand extended range 40mm. We need range and something not designed to limit collateral. Helping HRIM (grom 1/2) production for example. With US help Ukraine could build a dozen a month easy. That would be 72 deep strikes by now if started in October
with 1000lbs of boom each. Enough to destroy a barracks, bridge, depot etc.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:03:03 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:


Awful, thank you for summarizing it for us.
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I can’t watch it. Fucking animals. Hard to hold guys back from retribution after this. Here comes the UN to…. Say stop being naughty Russia and Ukraine.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:03:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By ArmyInfantryVet:

Some of these drone guys got the time from grenade drop til when the timed fuse detonates nearly perfect.
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A+ student there.

These are best dropped from a window of about 80 -120 meters AGL so the target doesn't get a chance to throw them away.   Above 120m and it's likely to airburst too high and lose a lot of lethality... though it would pepper the area with shrapnel that's probably lethal within days, considering the vatniks' standard of combat medical care.

Some of these drone guys got the time from grenade drop til when the timed fuse detonates nearly perfect.

They have done impressive work with a variety of different grenades and repurposed ordnance.  They make it look easy, but there's definitely some attention to detail being paid there.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:08:49 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Dracster:

With the Poles and the Czechs getting Western reactors, I don't see what the big deal is with the Hungarians getting in on the action. Are they looking for Western tech at a Russian price?
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Originally Posted By Jozsi:
Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER:
Originally Posted By RockNwood:

I appreciate their energy and conservative social values, but getting into bed with Russia  for that energy is hypocritical. All the bad liberal thinking in the West came from Russia. Political correctness is a Russian invention.

They really need to recalibrate their values meter. What country has prospered with Russia as a strategic partner? And Orban doesn't see how that partnership could put him in a bind with NATO?  Or that Russia would use that dependence to subvert control in Hungary like they did in Germany. Link up with Russia and you will get plenty of globohomo politics.

I agree. Maybe getting into bed with Russia sounded good before they outed themselves as the orcs they always were. But after the invasion, Orban should have cut all ties with Putin.

Although I dont think Russia/Soviets/Marx invented political correctness any more than they invented lying: I think it is old like other human rhetorical tools to manipulate and divide.



The problem with cutting all ties is that the Paks and Paks II are Russian designed stations that are proprietary setups with absolutely no compatibility with western designs.

This is the problem that Hungary is in.

The EU and Obama and everyone since then doesn't want nukes anymore.

" just go buy power in the common market" is what the EU said.  Look where we are now.

Hungary is surviving barely now because they have independent power from Paks I.
I really wish people would understand Orbans position.

I don't like him very much and I hate the fucken situation we are in but more blame is on the EU and the West for kicking dirt and making excuses for not giving good terms for Hungary when they needed nuclear power and energy for the country.
They were fine giving good terms for Poland but they want Hungary on its knees because of the 2015 migrant crisis and Hungary said fuck you to the invasion.


With the Poles and the Czechs getting Western reactors, I don't see what the big deal is with the Hungarians getting in on the action. Are they looking for Western tech at a Russian price?



henceforth the problem... the fucken orcs offered a zero percent 25 year loan for the reactors.

Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:10:04 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jozsi:



henceforth the problem... the fucken orcs offered a zero percent 25 year loan for the reactors.

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For what, an RBMK?
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:13:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast:

If you've actually read this thread, you'll notice that I've been fairly pessimistic about Ukraine's odds at breaking the land bridge in the near future. But, that doesn't fit the caricatures and strawmans you've built up in your mind.
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And you haven't built up your own caricatures?

Face it. That picture is "Veep" levels of cringe.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:13:44 PM EDT
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That is the stuff that heavy bombing missions are meant to take care of. How do these barriers get defeated without heavy bombing? Or is there some way to have some heavy bombing missions happen?
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:14:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By prolapsed_cranium:

And you haven't built up your own caricatures?

Face it. That picture is "Veep" levels of cringe.
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Originally Posted By prolapsed_cranium:
Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast:

If you've actually read this thread, you'll notice that I've been fairly pessimistic about Ukraine's odds at breaking the land bridge in the near future. But, that doesn't fit the caricatures and strawmans you've built up in your mind.

And you haven't built up your own caricatures?

Face it. That picture is "Veep" levels of cringe.

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- please stop trolling this thread -
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- please stop trolling this thread -
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- please stop trolling this thread -
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JFC.  GD is going apeshit.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Who-knows-breaking-Secret-documents-reveal-US-has-boots-on-the-ground-in-Ukraine/5-2637176/

They think the US has troops on the front.

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Yet, if you read… we had 14 people there in county.

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Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:40:42 PM EDT
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Intel analysts and other specialists not the SF they are alluding to.
Link Posted: 4/11/2023 11:41:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Prime:

Ukrainian channel, still image only

Russo-swine scum no longer hides its animal essence and openly demonstrates its war crimes.

Russian-haired swine on their channels uploads a video on which this scum cuts off the head of our prisoner of war, where does the UN and other cuckold organizations look?

This video should be seen by every civil, military and European politician, the Russified scum deserves total extermination.


https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/203719/6A1EF1A0-08F5-4B43-818F-AF72D5EF5960-2778747.jpg
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Russia out of UN Security Council now. And hunt down every Wagner everywhere in the world like rats.
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 12:01:04 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Stevo89:


For what, an RBMK?
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henceforth the problem... the fucken orcs offered a zero percent 25 year loan for the reactors.



For what, an RBMK?

No, RBMK is an obsolete design. Article says they will more than double the current 40% capacity they get from the existing nuclear power plant and Russia is financing 80% of it. They will be basically able to run almost the whole country on nuclear power. It is already approved by the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/26/hungary-approves-construction-two-russian-built-nuclear-reactors

Looks like Slovakia and Turkey is building one too. Finland had an agreement of their own but they cancelled it when the war broke out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/business/economy/russia-nuclear-energy-ukraine.html

"Russia's tightest grip is on the market for nuclear fuel. It controls 38 percent of the world's uranium conversion and 46 percent of the uranium enrichment capacity   essential steps in producing usable fuel."
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 12:02:20 AM EDT
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If you do a google search on that latest shill you find similar agitprop across a few websites, mostly recent, and the content.

Most active on a New Zealand gun form? (Idk they call themselves kiwis)
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 12:13:00 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Freiheit8472:
If you do a google search on that latest shill you find similar agitprop across a few websites, mostly recent, and the content.

Most active on a New Zealand gun form? (Idk they call themselves kiwis)
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Yeah, he's posted almost the exact things verbatim on that forum, used racial slurs, and rooted for Ukrainians to get killed. Just put the troll/shill on ignore and move on.
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 12:18:02 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By strykr:

No, RBMK is an obsolete design. Article says they will more than double the current 40% capacity they get from the existing nuclear power plant and Russia is financing 80% of it. They will be basically able to run almost the whole country on nuclear power. It is already approved by the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/26/hungary-approves-construction-two-russian-built-nuclear-reactors

Looks like Slovakia and Turkey is building one too. Finland had an agreement of their own but they cancelled it when the war broke out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/business/economy/russia-nuclear-energy-ukraine.html

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Yeah, I know that's it's obsolete.

I was being sarcastic with respect to how the Russians could give them such a good deal. Well, a not great, not terrible, deal, anyway.
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Originally Posted By Stevo89:


Yeah, I know that's it's obsolete.

I was being sarcastic with respect to how the Russians could give them such a good deal. Well, a not great, not terrible, deal, anyway.
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Originally Posted By Stevo89:
Originally Posted By strykr:

No, RBMK is an obsolete design. Article says they will more than double the current 40% capacity they get from the existing nuclear power plant and Russia is financing 80% of it. They will be basically able to run almost the whole country on nuclear power. It is already approved by the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/26/hungary-approves-construction-two-russian-built-nuclear-reactors

Looks like Slovakia and Turkey is building one too. Finland had an agreement of their own but they cancelled it when the war broke out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/business/economy/russia-nuclear-energy-ukraine.html

"Russia's tightest grip is on the market for nuclear fuel. It controls 38 percent of the world's uranium conversion and 46 percent of the uranium enrichment capacity   essential steps in producing usable fuel."


Yeah, I know that's it's obsolete.

I was being sarcastic with respect to how the Russians could give them such a good deal. Well, a not great, not terrible, deal, anyway.


zero percent interest was a powerful incentive.

Link Posted: 4/12/2023 12:40:29 AM EDT
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I can’t watch it. Fucking animals. Hard to hold guys back from retribution after this. Here comes the UN to…. Say stop being naughty Russia and Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By spydercomonkey:


Awful, thank you for summarizing it for us.


I can’t watch it. Fucking animals. Hard to hold guys back from retribution after this. Here comes the UN to…. Say stop being naughty Russia and Ukraine.

Once an enemy starts inhuman torture of POWs like live beheading or skinning or cutting off genitals, etc I can imagine a burning hatred taking hold of the troops. I hope the offensive panics the Russians as they realize they are underpowered and have invited no quarter given.
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 12:44:15 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By prolapsed_cranium:
Originally Posted By MelGibsonEnthusiast:

If you've actually read this thread, you'll notice that I've been fairly pessimistic about Ukraine's odds at breaking the land bridge in the near future. But, that doesn't fit the caricatures and strawmans you've built up in your mind.

And you haven't built up your own caricatures?

Face it. That picture is "Veep" levels of cringe.

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Man, you should be taking a 33 post hall monitor SERIOUSLY!  His opinion counts!
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 12:48:55 AM EDT
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Yeah, I know that's it's obsolete.

I was being sarcastic with respect to how the Russians could give them such a good deal. Well, a not great, not terrible, deal, anyway.
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Originally Posted By Stevo89:
Originally Posted By strykr:

No, RBMK is an obsolete design. Article says they will more than double the current 40% capacity they get from the existing nuclear power plant and Russia is financing 80% of it. They will be basically able to run almost the whole country on nuclear power. It is already approved by the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/26/hungary-approves-construction-two-russian-built-nuclear-reactors

Looks like Slovakia and Turkey is building one too. Finland had an agreement of their own but they cancelled it when the war broke out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/business/economy/russia-nuclear-energy-ukraine.html

"Russia's tightest grip is on the market for nuclear fuel. It controls 38 percent of the world's uranium conversion and 46 percent of the uranium enrichment capacity   essential steps in producing usable fuel."


Yeah, I know that's it's obsolete.

I was being sarcastic with respect to how the Russians could give them such a good deal. Well, a not great, not terrible, deal, anyway.

Plus, Russia insisted on a ten year exclusive on the fuel supply. Like HP selling printers for $100 and then $80 ink cartridges every six months for ten years!
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 1:10:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:


After the demonstrated behavior of Russian troops in Ukraine, I can't imagine how even the most forgiving of people can maintain any sympathy at all for the Russian soldier. Every time I see one of those fuckers get blown to pieces on video, I cheer! I don't feel even a little bit sorry for them. They are disgusting excuses for human fucking beings and the world becomes a slightly better place every time a Russian is taken out. I probably feel more sympathy for a group of wild Texas hogs that get tenderized by 10 lbs. of Tannerite. At least the hogs aren't intelligent enough to know what vile, disgusting, nuisances they are to the rest of the world. Russians purposely choose to be this way.

BTW, kudos to you for sending those 4 nice, lightweight rifles to Ukraine. Hopefully they will come in handy in helping Ukraine control their own "wild hog" problem.

BTW, I am assuming those lowers/stocks are some type of one piece polymer design? I've never had one but they look pretty nice, a bit like the old Cav Arms stuff from way back in the day. If they have A1 length buttstocks, I might have to explore getting one of these lowers someday for a similar lightweight, KISS project.
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Originally Posted By Charging_Handle:
Originally Posted By Capta:

A fucking biblical reckoning is coming to these sons of bitches.


After the demonstrated behavior of Russian troops in Ukraine, I can't imagine how even the most forgiving of people can maintain any sympathy at all for the Russian soldier. Every time I see one of those fuckers get blown to pieces on video, I cheer! I don't feel even a little bit sorry for them. They are disgusting excuses for human fucking beings and the world becomes a slightly better place every time a Russian is taken out. I probably feel more sympathy for a group of wild Texas hogs that get tenderized by 10 lbs. of Tannerite. At least the hogs aren't intelligent enough to know what vile, disgusting, nuisances they are to the rest of the world. Russians purposely choose to be this way.

BTW, kudos to you for sending those 4 nice, lightweight rifles to Ukraine. Hopefully they will come in handy in helping Ukraine control their own "wild hog" problem.

BTW, I am assuming those lowers/stocks are some type of one piece polymer design? I've never had one but they look pretty nice, a bit like the old Cav Arms stuff from way back in the day. If they have A1 length buttstocks, I might have to explore getting one of these lowers someday for a similar lightweight, KISS project.

The Russian/Soviet/Russian Empire is responsible for the vast majority of hatred, death, and misery of the last hundred years.  I still, sincerely, hope for the spiritual salvation of the Russians involved in fighting this war, but the Russian Empire has to be smashed to pieces.

Thank you, the lowers are KE-15 polymer, A-1 length.  They’re the basis for the “WWSD” line of rifles and I like them a lot.  They also have OD and FDE versions.  Very reasonably priced too.
https://www.brownells.com/gun-parts/rifle-parts/rifle-receivers-parts/ar-15-kp-15-stripped-lower-receivers-polymer/
Saves about 8-10oz over a standard complete lower receiver assembly if you do nothing else to save weight.  I have a couple more waiting to build out as true lightweight rifles after I finish this project.
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 1:43:03 AM EDT
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henceforth the problem... the fucken orcs offered a zero percent 25 year loan for the reactors.

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I appreciate their energy and conservative social values, but getting into bed with Russia  for that energy is hypocritical. All the bad liberal thinking in the West came from Russia. Political correctness is a Russian invention.

They really need to recalibrate their values meter. What country has prospered with Russia as a strategic partner? And Orban doesn't see how that partnership could put him in a bind with NATO?  Or that Russia would use that dependence to subvert control in Hungary like they did in Germany. Link up with Russia and you will get plenty of globohomo politics.

I agree. Maybe getting into bed with Russia sounded good before they outed themselves as the orcs they always were. But after the invasion, Orban should have cut all ties with Putin.

Although I dont think Russia/Soviets/Marx invented political correctness any more than they invented lying: I think it is old like other human rhetorical tools to manipulate and divide.



The problem with cutting all ties is that the Paks and Paks II are Russian designed stations that are proprietary setups with absolutely no compatibility with western designs.

This is the problem that Hungary is in.

The EU and Obama and everyone since then doesn't want nukes anymore.

" just go buy power in the common market" is what the EU said.  Look where we are now.

Hungary is surviving barely now because they have independent power from Paks I.
I really wish people would understand Orbans position.

I don't like him very much and I hate the fucken situation we are in but more blame is on the EU and the West for kicking dirt and making excuses for not giving good terms for Hungary when they needed nuclear power and energy for the country.
They were fine giving good terms for Poland but they want Hungary on its knees because of the 2015 migrant crisis and Hungary said fuck you to the invasion.


With the Poles and the Czechs getting Western reactors, I don't see what the big deal is with the Hungarians getting in on the action. Are they looking for Western tech at a Russian price?



henceforth the problem... the fucken orcs offered a zero percent 25 year loan for the reactors.


Reading that article I posted makes it pretty damn clear that games are being played not only with the knowhow but with the financial structuring.  Putin moved his offer from 80% financing to 100% financing, and Hungary doesn’t even start paying on the loan until the reactors go online.  Moscow basically handed a Hungary a shit ton of free money, a jobs program, and two reactors.  That’s a good starting point for understanding Orban’s decision making.
There has to be heavy Kompromat on him too.  After all, looking at Russia spiraling into deeper and deeper shit, an unethical but rational actor would simply say, thanks for the billions and the reactors, now go pound sand and by the way what are you going to do about it?  We’re in NATO, bitch!  Erdogan would do this so fast it would make your freaking head spin.
There is no rational reason for Orban to screw Hungary out of significant financial and political opportunities like he is.  Europe is going to remember this, to say nothing of Ukraine.  Putin has him by the balls, somehow.
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Close to done.  Need to install front sight posts.  Waiting on three more Magpul QD sling swivel mounts.   Need one more A2 trapdoor buttplate.  Might put something grippy/insulating on the top rail.  Tried out Magpul AFG, Magpul RVG, and BCM KAG, rejected all of them.  Right or wrong I think the more stuff is hanging off the rifle the more likely it is to get ripped off at some point.  And it adds weight.
Technical question for those with experience with IR lasers.  I have a 3-slot picatinny rail at the 3-o'clock for a potential IR laser mount.  Is this going to be sufficient to hold zero?  Do I need something longer like 5-slot, or is top rail really the best option?
Biggest remaining challenge is the FSB pins.  On three of the four Delton barrels they oversized the holes for the FSB pins.  The pins came out very easily but when reassembled they do not fully tighten the FSB even driven flat.  Need to order oversize pins.  If anyone has a line on these let me know.  The fourth was a bitch to get the pins out and tightened up just fine when reassembled.  Data point on Delton barrels FWIW.
Will try to do a “tip to butt” tour if anyone’s interested.  Also need to organize and show the accessory/spares package.
Also tried one with an AP T2 and it feels awesome!  7 pounds 6oz all up with empty mag vs 7 pounds 12oz with PRO.  Wish I could send them with AP Duty RDS, but I had the PROs and the extra money isn’t in the cards.
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Inbound inspections became less efficient over the past week or so as Russia began to insist on a random list of vessels to be chosen for inspection each day, according to a source familiar with the situation, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Prior to this change, Ukraine had been submitting a list of priority vessels for inspection a day in advance - based on the needs of its ports, storage and capacity - and all four parties generally rubber-stamped it, the source said.

Since the deal allowing the safe wartime export of grain from Ukraine's Black Sea ports was agreed in July, more then 27.5 million tonnes of food have been exported. Dujarric said this had contributed to the lowering of food prices globally.

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/no-ships-inspected-tuesday-under-ukraine-black-sea-grain-deal-un-2023-04-11/
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Technical question for those with experience with IR lasers.  I have a 3-slot picatinny rail at the 3-o'clock for a potential IR laser mount.  Is this going to be sufficient to hold zero?  Do I need something longer like 5-slot, or is top rail really the best option?
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You're really going to want to mount LAMs to the top rail to best hold zero, there can be a more than a little play in 1913 sections mounted to M-LOK.  

Very curious how those KE lowers are going to hold up to the real world though, actual grunt usage in field conditions rather than LARPing in the Arizona desert.
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You're really going to want to mount LAMs to the top rail to best hold zero, there can be a more than a little play in 1913 sections mounted to M-LOK.  

Very curious how those KE lowers are going to hold up to the real world though, actual grunt usage in field conditions rather than LARPing in the Arizona desert.
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Technical question for those with experience with IR lasers.  I have a 3-slot picatinny rail at the 3-o'clock for a potential IR laser mount.  Is this going to be sufficient to hold zero?  Do I need something longer like 5-slot, or is top rail really the best option?


You're really going to want to mount LAMs to the top rail to best hold zero, there can be a more than a little play in 1913 sections mounted to M-LOK.  

Very curious how those KE lowers are going to hold up to the real world though, actual grunt usage in field conditions rather than LARPing in the Arizona desert.

I have access to a DBAL and it works on the top rail.  You might get a little splash from the illum on the light bezel but doesn’t look too bad.  Laser is good.  The PRO mount is a bit shorter than lower 1/3 height, so I’ve been thinking about something like an SKDtac PRO riser to make passive use easier.
Obviously I don’t know the actual conditions over there, but it seems active IR might be a very risky thing.  Maybe I should take passive use more into account with a taller mount.  Thoughts anyone?
No way to know, but my opinion is that they are likely to hold up well.  People were skeptical of Glocks 30 years ago too.  Polymer done right is durable stuff, and the AR lower is just there to hold the FCG and magazine in correct relation to the upper.
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South Korea to lend 500,000 rounds of artillery shells to US, report says

https://www.reuters.com/world/south-korea-lend-500000-rounds-artillery-shells-us-report-2023-04-12/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=twitter
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There's the ammunition for the offensive.

I hope they cut us a deal on it since I bet it's older ammunition.

But the Koreans make quality stuff. The K2, Chunmoo, FA50, and K9 are a testament to that.
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:


There's the ammunition for the offensive.

I hope they cut us a deal on it since I bet it's older ammunition.

But the Koreans make quality stuff. The K2, Chunmoo, FA50, and K9 are a testament to that.
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Originally Posted By fadedsun:
Originally Posted By AROKIE:
South Korea to lend 500,000 rounds of artillery shells to US, report says

https://www.reuters.com/world/south-korea-lend-500000-rounds-artillery-shells-us-report-2023-04-12/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=twitter


There's the ammunition for the offensive.

I hope they cut us a deal on it since I bet it's older ammunition.

But the Koreans make quality stuff. The K2, Chunmoo, FA50, and K9 are a testament to that.



In the article it says that South Korea does not want to directly supply Ukraine with 155 rounds so It instead will lend the US 500 thousand so we can give Ukraine some of our stocks and not hurt our own supply and we will re-pay S.K. with American made 155 overtime
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 5:57:47 AM EDT
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I knew my love of kimchee and other Korean delights  would pay off some day. This is where having allies pays off instead of isolationism.
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 6:04:27 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By DASJUDEN:


Fuck I just got back from an NTC rotation with a whole lot of China Lake thrown in. Currently drinking to forget the NTC part.
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I could be wrong, before my time, but I thought during Desert Storm build up they built some Iraqi positions and stuff at NTC and wargamed against it.

If I was king for a day someone should have done something like that in Hohenfels or Graf or someplace and worked out some ideas.

Bottom line, and I'll keep this simple.

If the Russians aren't moving around, and the IC has a lot of collectors, like satellites and such, a lot of analysts, a lot of time, and a small sector, say a few miles square....and then a lot of HIMARs and Excal and a lot of smart munitions, they can precisely blow a hole through the line, and rip through.

If the Russians were smart they'd be camouflaging and moving and hiding.....but that requires brains and discipline and they have showed neither.
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 6:07:19 AM EDT
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Regarding the timing of the Ukrainian counter offensive, I'd have to agree with the yahoo article of later May or early June. Looking at the list of items going, it will take time to get them there and staged in Ukraine. Drier weather is also a factor.

Most likely a feint will happen to get Russia to commit their armored reserve to a fake axis while the main attack occurs elsewhere. Night attacks to take advantage of superior thermal and optics of western armor. More time to practice night attacks which are tricky even if you train for them.

I've noticed very little use of smoke to obscure movement. I'd expect that to change in this offensive. Thermal vision can see through smoke. Not quite as useful with drone observation around but very useful for protection when clearing minefields against the ATGM threat.

Link Posted: 4/12/2023 6:30:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ILfreedom:
Regarding the timing of the Ukrainian counter offensive, I'd have to agree with the yahoo article of later May or early June. Looking at the list of items going, it will take time to get them there and staged in Ukraine. Drier weather is also a factor.

Most likely a feint will happen to get Russia to commit their armored reserve to a fake axis while the main attack occurs elsewhere. Night attacks to take advantage of superior thermal and optics of western armor. More time to practice night attacks which are tricky even if you train for them.

I've noticed very little use of smoke to obscure movement. I'd expect that to change in this offensive. Thermal vision can see through smoke. Not quite as useful with drone observation around but very useful for protection when clearing minefields against the ATGM threat.

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Ive seen a lot of use of smoke on both sides, from smoke grenade to artillery smoke and armor generated smoke. Both sides use it alot.  But like you said it has limited value.
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That is a disproportionate amount of orcs to equipment for a day.  especially UAVs.
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Originally Posted By general_cluster:


That is a disproportionate amount of orcs to equipment for a day.  especially UAVs.
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Maybe a tunnel collapsed?
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 8:50:06 AM EDT
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The problem with cutting all ties is that the Paks and Paks II are Russian designed stations that are proprietary setups with absolutely no compatibility with western designs.

This is the problem that Hungary is in.

The EU and Obama and everyone since then doesn't want nukes anymore.

" just go buy power in the common market" is what the EU said.  Look where we are now.

Hungary is surviving barely now because they have independent power from Paks I.
I really wish people would understand Orbans position.

I don't like him very much and I hate the fucken situation we are in but more blame is on the EU and the West for kicking dirt and making excuses for not giving good terms for Hungary when they needed nuclear power and energy for the country.
They were fine giving good terms for Poland but they want Hungary on its knees because of the 2015 migrant crisis and Hungary said fuck you to the invasion.

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Szia Jozsi, I was hoping you'd chime in since you know much more about this than me.
Hungary is stuck between two groups that dont like them but want to use them against the other: The EU and Russia.
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Originally Posted By GTLandser:


This is what every other commentator I have read/heard has said: for what Ukraine needs most for their upcoming offensive, they can do 95% of what really needs doing without F-16s at all. They have air defenses to keep the worst Russian air attacks away, and GLMRS, Excalibur, and other artillery can reach to the depth necessary to support an offensive just fine, for a fraction of the cost of any aircraft.

I still think they should be leaning forward and at least getting the pilots trained, but it will take YEARS before Ukrainian pilots are flying and supporting F16s from home soil.
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This is coming from ignorance and not trying to be provocative. BUT, since the USA has MUCH more and better GLMRS, MLRS, and every other type of fires, why do we need an Air Force? Is it only for that remaining 5% that the precision fires cannot cover or something else. Or is the Air Force just to cover our immense force projection far from home? Are we rapidly approaching the point where manned aircraft are replaced with drones and super precise missiles?

Personally I think Ukraine needs the F16 urgently since Russia is still flying lots of jets. And ATACMs...I guess if they could get only one, probably ATACMs would be the most efficient and cheapest option by far.
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 9:09:32 AM EDT
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I just wanted to pop in and say thanks for the thread. I don't venture into GD anymore for reasons already discussed. I follow this thread religiously and thank all the contributors. I spent some time as a part of one of the the first NATO Response Forces and had the pleasure of working with Poland and some others. I'm pretty invested in this conflict
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Allen wrench included

Link Posted: 4/12/2023 9:14:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jozsi:



The problem with cutting all ties is that the Paks and Paks II are Russian designed stations that are proprietary setups with absolutely no compatibility with western designs.

This is the problem that Hungary is in.

The EU and Obama and everyone since then doesn't want nukes anymore.

" just go buy power in the common market" is what the EU said.  Look where we are now.

Hungary is surviving barely now because they have independent power from Paks I.
I really wish people would understand Orbans position.

I don't like him very much and I hate the fucken situation we are in but more blame is on the EU and the West for kicking dirt and making excuses for not giving good terms for Hungary when they needed nuclear power and energy for the country.
They were fine giving good terms for Poland but they want Hungary on its knees because of the 2015 migrant crisis and Hungary said fuck you to the invasion.

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Truth. In reality. Hungary wants to move away from dependence on other countries … particularly with electric power … the West has said no and for a small country like Hungary … nuke power is the best way …
Link Posted: 4/12/2023 9:16:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Capta:

I think you can make an argument for interests-driven decision making before the war.  EU slow-rolling a nuke reactor but Russia agrees to help?  OK fair enough.
Wanting to keep Soros’ dirty mitts of their internal politics?  OK, Poland has done the same and incurred some of the same grief over it.
Poland has also done everything possible since to help Ukraine and cooperate with NATO.
Turkey has played hardball over their political and financial interests too.  But they have also provided quite significant military aid, a lot of it off the radar.  They play hardball, they get (some of) what they want, and then they cooperate.
Hungary continues to refuse aid, refuses even the transit of aid, and has repeatedly tried to block military and financial aid within the EU.
I actually don’t have a problem with hardball quid pro quo politics.  But we aren’t seeing that.  We’re seeing obstructionism which is not tied to fulfillment of quid pro quo demands, and that raises pretty significant questions about Orban’s motives.
I watch a fair amount of EU/NATO press content on youtube, and Stoltenberg recently made pretty clear reference to “getting Hungary’s concerns for minority rights addressed” or words to that effect.  So NATO/the EU appears to be interested in playing ball with Orban for his domestic political goals.  Will Orban reciprocate?  I doubt it.
I’m not well versed in the politics of Hungary’s nuke plant saga.  However I read through this link and it certainly doesn’t paint a black and white picture of EU stonewalling/Russia helping.  If anything it raises strong questions of Russia using both energy and money for political leverage against Hungary and Europe.  Which of course is the same boat that Germany was in, but Germany has largely bailed out of that and Hungary…hasn’t.
https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/countries-g-n/hungary.aspx
I reject the idea that “Orban may just think that everything will back to normal in a few months.”  Only an absolute moron would think that at this point, and Orban is not a moron.  The escalation of Russian barbarism and war crimes and the demand for war crimes trials and reparations will prevent any rapprochement with Europe for years if not decades.
We aren’t party to the reasoning behind a sanctions threat - yet.
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I agree. I think Orban has personal animosity towards Zelensky and maybe Ukraine in general on top of all the legitimate concerns Hungary has with the EU. Maybe he also assumed that a quick Russian victory would be followed by very favorable terms for the Hungarian minorities in Ukraine. As an ethnic Hungarian who supports Orban in domestic policies, I am very frustrated by his stupid games over Ukraine.
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Originally Posted By ROTCatCU:
I just wanted to pop in and say thanks for the thread. I don't venture into GD anymore for reasons already discussed. I follow this thread religiously and thank all the contributors. I spent some time as a part of one of the the first NATO Response Forces and had the pleasure of working with Poland and some others. I'm pretty invested in this conflict
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Welcome fellow '04er!

Link Posted: 4/12/2023 9:17:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By strykr:

No, RBMK is an obsolete design. Article says they will more than double the current 40% capacity they get from the existing nuclear power plant and Russia is financing 80% of it. They will be basically able to run almost the whole country on nuclear power. It is already approved by the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/26/hungary-approves-construction-two-russian-built-nuclear-reactors

Looks like Slovakia and Turkey is building one too. Finland had an agreement of their own but they cancelled it when the war broke out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/business/economy/russia-nuclear-energy-ukraine.html

"Russia's tightest grip is on the market for nuclear fuel. It controls 38 percent of the world's uranium conversion and 46 percent of the uranium enrichment capacity   essential steps in producing usable fuel."
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Originally Posted By Stevo89:
Originally Posted By Jozsi:



henceforth the problem... the fucken orcs offered a zero percent 25 year loan for the reactors.



For what, an RBMK?

No, RBMK is an obsolete design. Article says they will more than double the current 40% capacity they get from the existing nuclear power plant and Russia is financing 80% of it. They will be basically able to run almost the whole country on nuclear power. It is already approved by the EU.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/aug/26/hungary-approves-construction-two-russian-built-nuclear-reactors

Looks like Slovakia and Turkey is building one too. Finland had an agreement of their own but they cancelled it when the war broke out.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/10/business/economy/russia-nuclear-energy-ukraine.html

"Russia's tightest grip is on the market for nuclear fuel. It controls 38 percent of the world's uranium conversion and 46 percent of the uranium enrichment capacity   essential steps in producing usable fuel."


Thank you Hillary Clinton!
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Yeah, this is why I don't believe these leaks.  The info is all there from literally public sources and in this thread.  The fact one document claims there were 0 Russian S-300 systems knocked out is rubbish.  We have multiple videos and photos of S-300 systems and radar units destroyed on the Russian side.   Other numbers don't add up as well.
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