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Posted: 11/3/2023 10:20:25 AM EDT
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Hope Putin died
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Posted: 11/3/2023 10:37:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Video from the new Lancet budget replacement drones in video.
Unit looked woefully under powered at launch, too. They either need a better launcher or better propulsion system. If it's that marginal at test weight, with a real payload, they'll probably have more that a few nose in at launch. Hopefully take out a few of their own in the process. 
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Posted: 11/3/2023 10:39:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: Once Atacms is in enough numbers and GLSDB gets on scene, you can wipe out a lot of the large and medium range air defense systems that might clear the way for higher quality drones to fly closer to the front. I think we might see the Bayraktar's show up again, which would be a good sign that something has changed. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 11:21:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Posted: 11/3/2023 11:28:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-AK-dRXoAAbS6M?format=jpg&name=large
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Posted: 11/3/2023 11:30:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: There's an implication in that last item. Let's say that somehow Ukraine was able to achieve air and EW superiority, and the ability to break through the extensive mines of the Surovikin line, and was successful in pushing south toward the Azov. Let's say that somehow they did managed to cut that land bridge. That means the line of contact just got a whole lot longer. They're barely able to defend the current line. It's unclear what might happen if the lines suddenly expanded. I don't know if it would be more likely to break Russia or Ukraine. Cut the supply lines, and those cut off will be throwing rocks at you and eating rats. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 11:33:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fund_GARISSON: We get a lot of feedback from around the world that Ukraine has been forgotten. You aren’t forgotten bud. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 11:37:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yekimak: Glad you were not in the bullseye. Be safe and keep your men safe. Hopefully nothing showed up in your area when they were buzzing that would make you show up as a brighter target. Maybe don't hang out in a hospital or school or orphanage for a while. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yekimak: Originally Posted By Easterner: Exactly. I expect incoming in the next day or two. Listening to those drones flying overhead is nerve wracking. It was not fun being an actual target this time.  Glad you were not in the bullseye. Be safe and keep your men safe. Hopefully nothing showed up in your area when they were buzzing that would make you show up as a brighter target. Maybe don't hang out in a hospital or school or orphanage for a while. Yeah well we had one building destroyed 100 meters from us. We literally came outside, after I woke everyone, to see it get hit. Several other hits around us after we bugged out. Too close for comfort. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 12:04:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fund_GARISSON: We get a lot of feedback from around the world that Ukraine has been forgotten. Well, we're still here monitoring, and helping where we can. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 12:30:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 1 minute ago, another assault currently.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 12:39:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: sawgunner73]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jungatheart: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest: 1 minute ago, another assault currently.
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. That's how they eventually took Bakmut. If they can encircle and capture Avdivka using the same tactic, that will be a huge blow to Ukraine. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 11/3/2023 12:41:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sawgunner73: That's how they eventually took Bakmut. If they can encircle and capture Avdivka using the same tactic, that will be a huge blow to Ukraine. Let's hope the Russians dont have the artillery to do much this time |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 12:55:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-AK-dRXoAAbS6M?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9_4QkjXMAAMML2?format=jpg&name=large
https://absurdink.com/cdn/shop/products/Archer-Danger-Zone_2048x_57c4da81-dbfc-4ce2-9835-3a24ada04e1a_600x.jpg?v=1611860891 I wanna see some shoot n scoots. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 2:02:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m:  Germany is running out of money fast, in 2032 they need Ukraine assistance. The GDP is shrinking and the companies are fleeing the country because the German Gov. is fucking everything up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
One thing is clear: military support for Ukraine is a task until the end of the decade and beyond. Our budget planning already provides funds until 2032, which shows our determination," said the general. Germany is running out of money fast, in 2032 they need Ukraine assistance. The GDP is shrinking and the companies are fleeing the country because the German Gov. is fucking everything up. Quoting myself here. They can't even feed their soldier anymore.  https://www.topagrar.com/panorama/news/bundeswehr-streicht-2024-rindfleisch-von-speiseplan-13518499.html Bundeswehr will remove beef from its menu in 2024 The current food for the Bundeswehr is too expensive and not “sustainable” enough. Starting next year, beef will be replaced by poultry and pork. Fri, November 3, 2023, 7:52 a.m The Bundeswehr catering office will change the troop menus from January 1, 2024. The Bild newspaper has an internal email that says food is becoming too expensive for the troops. “In order to take the price dynamics of the market into account, but also for reasons of sustainability, we are aiming for a conceptual reduction in our shopping basket. This particularly applies to the procurement of beef products, fresh fruit and frozen fish,” the letter says. At the newspaper's request, a spokesman for the Federal Office for Infrastructure, Environmental Protection and Services of the Bundeswehr confirmed that the menus had been checked and adjusted. In addition to the cost of goods sold of €62 million in the last 12 months, “changing eating habits” would also lead to changes in the troop kitchen, it is said. As of next year, beef roulades, meatballs (made from beef), hamburger meat, zander, salmon and cod fillets, as well as cherries, peaches, strawberries, oranges and watermelons will be deleted. In addition, fish dishes should only be offered once a week. Beef is being replaced in particular by poultry and pork, as well as vegetarian and vegan meat substitutes. Criticism comes from Union defense expert Florian Hahn (49, CSU): “If it actually turns out to be true that our soldiers' food should now be saved, this would be another slap in the face of our troops,” he told Bild. The Bundeswehr's assets can no longer cope with further savings - especially not when it comes to nutrition and health. “This doesn’t make the Bundeswehr more attractive and it doesn’t attract more young talent.”  Fucking disband this clown Army and give everything to Ukraine. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 2:07:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: Yeah well we had one building destroyed 100 meters from us. We literally came outside, after I woke everyone, to see it get hit. Several other hits around us after we bugged out. Too close for comfort. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By yekimak: Originally Posted By Easterner: Exactly. I expect incoming in the next day or two. Listening to those drones flying overhead is nerve wracking. It was not fun being an actual target this time. Glad you were not in the bullseye. Be safe and keep your men safe. Hopefully nothing showed up in your area when they were buzzing that would make you show up as a brighter target. Maybe don't hang out in a hospital or school or orphanage for a while. Yeah well we had one building destroyed 100 meters from us. We literally came outside, after I woke everyone, to see it get hit. Several other hits around us after we bugged out. Too close for comfort. Holy sheet...too close. Any way to check if you were painted somehow? Got anything that can read thermal or IR? |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 2:54:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Quoting myself here. They can't even feed their soldier anymore. https://www.topagrar.com/panorama/news/bundeswehr-streicht-2024-rindfleisch-von-speiseplan-13518499.html Fucking disband this clown Army and give everything to Ukraine. What's the food like in Ukrainian military these days? |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 2:57:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I saw it posted somewhere that the average Ukrainian soldier is about 41 or something. It always jars me when I see man-on-the-street interviews in Ukraine and a young man in street clothes responds. I know they're forbidden to leave the country, but they're still there, and not all mobilized or volunteered. Agreed. Maybe the UA recruiting has slots, based on limited equipment, for only so many men. But there should be huge lines and even angry demonstrations (in Itchy's naive mind) of young men demanding to be trained up and equipped to fight for their country. It's not like Ukraine is fighting some far-off war for treaty obligations, like US in Vietnam. Even if this wasn't a war for survival, the thought of some assholes like the Russians coming in telling people they own them, bombing them...fuck that noise. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 3:04:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yekimak: Holy sheet...too close. Any way to check if you were painted somehow? Got anything that can read thermal or IR? Russia was using ir flashing beacons early on. No reason to think they still aren't, though that would probably get whoever was placing them deaded toot sweet. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 3:16:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: yekimak]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-AK-dRXoAAbS6M?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9_4QkjXMAAMML2?format=jpg&name=large
https://absurdink.com/cdn/shop/products/Archer-Danger-Zone_2048x_57c4da81-dbfc-4ce2-9835-3a24ada04e1a_600x.jpg?v=1611860891 I hope these are as much fun to watch work as the Caesars are. Caesar at work. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 3:19:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Agreed. Maybe the UA recruiting has slots, based on limited equipment, for only so many men. But there should be huge lines and even angry demonstrations (in Itchy's naive mind) of young men demanding to be trained up and equipped to fight for their country. It's not like Ukraine is fighting some far-off war for treaty obligations, like US in Vietnam. Even if this wasn't a war for survival, the thought of some assholes like the Russians coming in telling people they own them, bombing them...fuck that noise. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I saw it posted somewhere that the average Ukrainian soldier is about 41 or something. It always jars me when I see man-on-the-street interviews in Ukraine and a young man in street clothes responds. I know they're forbidden to leave the country, but they're still there, and not all mobilized or volunteered. Agreed. Maybe the UA recruiting has slots, based on limited equipment, for only so many men. But there should be huge lines and even angry demonstrations (in Itchy's naive mind) of young men demanding to be trained up and equipped to fight for their country. It's not like Ukraine is fighting some far-off war for treaty obligations, like US in Vietnam. Even if this wasn't a war for survival, the thought of some assholes like the Russians coming in telling people they own them, bombing them...fuck that noise. Just based on our experiences with training. Every man is not necessarily soldier material. There is a lot happening with the training of cadets, conscripts, older vets, and foreigners. If the system gets clogged up with dead weight it can become a nightmare. We have enough people in this system that cause hindrances as it is. Many of the brigades are advertising for roles based on different skill sets. It's more like a job fair if a person voluntarily enlists. We have more freedom as foreigners to pick and choose where we want to go as well. Many things are changing for the better based on how it was at the beginning. Now that I got my foot in the door I was able to pick where I wanted to go, rather than being told where I could go. I can't really discuss numbers of young Ukrainian soldiers, but I promise you there are a lot of them in various stages of the system. In addition the older generations are receiving follow up training. The gears are turning quite well to bolster the ranks, and increase abilities of those with previous experience. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 3:28:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-AK-dRXoAAbS6M?format=jpg&name=large
Notice how all the Swedish gear comes prep'd with multi spectral camouflage.. nice. I'm not even sure we're doing that for our own gear 
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Posted: 11/3/2023 3:34:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fund_GARISSON: We get a lot of feedback from around the world that Ukraine has been forgotten. Ukraine hasn't been forgotten brother.  Pink Floyd - Hey Hey Rise Up (feat. Andriy Khlyvnyuk of Boombox) |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 3:49:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
two videos in tweet, both are longer segments of videos posted in the past few days.
Full 4 minute video here:
For non-Twits  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuZP_7MfmnYAt 1:14, are they driving over exposed mines? Those circle things look like a field of mines laying out in the open.
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Posted: 11/3/2023 4:07:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: Just based on our experiences with training. Every man is not necessarily soldier material. There is a lot happening with the training of cadets, conscripts, older vets, and foreigners. If the system gets clogged up with dead weight it can become a nightmare. We have enough people in this system that cause hindrances as it is. Many of the brigades are advertising for roles based on different skill sets. It's more like a job fair if a person voluntarily enlists. We have more freedom as foreigners to pick and choose where we want to go as well. Many things are changing for the better based on how it was at the beginning. Now that I got my foot in the door I was able to pick where I wanted to go, rather than being told where I could go. I can't really discuss numbers of young Ukrainian soldiers, but I promise you there are a lot of them in various stages of the system. In addition the older generations are receiving follow up training. The gears are turning quite well to bolster the ranks, and increase abilities of those with previous experience. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: Originally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Lieh-tzu: I saw it posted somewhere that the average Ukrainian soldier is about 41 or something. It always jars me when I see man-on-the-street interviews in Ukraine and a young man in street clothes responds. I know they're forbidden to leave the country, but they're still there, and not all mobilized or volunteered. Agreed. Maybe the UA recruiting has slots, based on limited equipment, for only so many men. But there should be huge lines and even angry demonstrations (in Itchy's naive mind) of young men demanding to be trained up and equipped to fight for their country. It's not like Ukraine is fighting some far-off war for treaty obligations, like US in Vietnam. Even if this wasn't a war for survival, the thought of some assholes like the Russians coming in telling people they own them, bombing them...fuck that noise. Just based on our experiences with training. Every man is not necessarily soldier material. There is a lot happening with the training of cadets, conscripts, older vets, and foreigners. If the system gets clogged up with dead weight it can become a nightmare. We have enough people in this system that cause hindrances as it is. Many of the brigades are advertising for roles based on different skill sets. It's more like a job fair if a person voluntarily enlists. We have more freedom as foreigners to pick and choose where we want to go as well. Many things are changing for the better based on how it was at the beginning. Now that I got my foot in the door I was able to pick where I wanted to go, rather than being told where I could go. I can't really discuss numbers of young Ukrainian soldiers, but I promise you there are a lot of them in various stages of the system. In addition the older generations are receiving follow up training. The gears are turning quite well to bolster the ranks, and increase abilities of those with previous experience. This is good to hear. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 4:18:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: Notice how all the Swedish gear comes prep'd with multi spectral camouflage.. nice. I'm not even sure we're doing that for our own gear Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brok3n: Originally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-AK-dRXoAAbS6M?format=jpg&name=large
Notice how all the Swedish gear comes prep'd with multi spectral camouflage.. nice. I'm not even sure we're doing that for our own gear It is certainly the way to go for starters, we use a special paint. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/27088/army-tanks-and-other-vehicles-get-new-paint-jobs-to-help-hide-from-thermal-optics There are two M1 Abrams in this thermal image, but this paint is from Greece and might give clues how ours works.  https://intermatdefense.com/anti-thermal  |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 4:46:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flogger23m: At 1:14, are they driving over exposed mines? Those circle things look like a field of mines laying out in the open. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flogger23m: Originally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
two videos in tweet, both are longer segments of videos posted in the past few days.
Full 4 minute video here:
For non-Twits https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuZP_7MfmnYAt 1:14, are they driving over exposed mines? Those circle things look like a field of mines laying out in the open. Yes, two interlinked minefields.  Then hilarity ensues. 
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Posted: 11/3/2023 5:06:43 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2023 5:38:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: I’m surprised by how many S-400s Russia has. Or claims to have. Roughly as many as we have Patriots. Russia has always had a hard-on for ADA |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 5:39:55 PM EDT
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Of course but I expected them to still be using a lot more S-300s still. Cause…they poor.
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Posted: 11/3/2023 5:53:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Of course but I expected them to still be using a lot more S-300s still. Cause…they poor. It would be interesting to see how many S-300 interceptors are in the tubes even it’s using a 400 radar and station. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 6:02:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: yekimak]
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Posted: 11/3/2023 6:08:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Zam18th]
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Posted: 11/3/2023 6:22:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Easterner: Just based on our experiences with training. Every man is not necessarily soldier material. There is a lot happening with the training of cadets, conscripts, older vets, and foreigners. If the system gets clogged up with dead weight it can become a nightmare. We have enough people in this system that cause hindrances as it is. Many of the brigades are advertising for roles based on different skill sets. It's more like a job fair if a person voluntarily enlists. We have more freedom as foreigners to pick and choose where we want to go as well. Many things are changing for the better based on how it was at the beginning. Now that I got my foot in the door I was able to pick where I wanted to go, rather than being told where I could go. I can't really discuss numbers of young Ukrainian soldiers, but I promise you there are a lot of them in various stages of the system. In addition the older generations are receiving follow up training. The gears are turning quite well to bolster the ranks, and increase abilities of those with previous experience. Excellent news and perspective. Thanks as always. I can also appreciate that in 2023 recruiting is not like 1941 when any warm body was good for something. Now days, at least in the USA, only about 25% of the age-appropriate population can even qualify due to criminal records, drug use (illegal and prescription) and mental and physical fitness...and a very small fraction of those qualifies would ever consider joining up in peacetime much less a brutal industrial scale meatgrinder. God bless all those who step up. Dont forget OpSec when correcting or informing us clowns on the internet. Dont get in trouble! |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 6:30:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2023 6:53:24 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/3/2023 6:55:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dorobuta: Russia has always had a hard-on for ADA Which makes sense, given how dependent the US is on air superiority. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 6:56:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yekimak: I hope these are as much fun to watch work as the Caesars are. Caesar at work. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By yekimak: Originally Posted By Prime: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-AK-dRXoAAbS6M?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9_4QkjXMAAMML2?format=jpg&name=large
https://absurdink.com/cdn/shop/products/Archer-Danger-Zone_2048x_57c4da81-dbfc-4ce2-9835-3a24ada04e1a_600x.jpg?v=1611860891 I hope these are as much fun to watch work as the Caesars are. Caesar at work. They're even more automatic and can do a 6 shot MRSI. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 7:01:28 PM EDT
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Since this is the Ukrainian propaganda thread, here's some coke-head, corrupt, globohomo, nazi jew Zelenski for you.
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Posted: 11/3/2023 7:19:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dracster: They're even more automatic and can do a 6 shot MRSI. Caesars are super expensive. Almost 6 million a pop. For comparison the Susanna is around 2-3. The pzh2000 is a lot more too |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 7:37:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobRoberts: It would be interesting to see how many S-300 interceptors are in the tubes even it’s using a 400 radar and station. Good point. Not unlike us using PAC-2. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 7:38:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Caesars are super expensive. Almost 6 million a pop. For comparison the Susanna is around 2-3. The pzh2000 is a lot more too Caesars would be cheap in quantity. PZH will always be expensive. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 7:43:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zam18th:
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/captkirk_gif-1003.gif That's the system I've been most interested in, and it's also the closest thing to a "game changer" that I think exists at the moment. If the Ukrainians can get their own domestic SRBM production up and running, that will have a very large impact on the war, IMO. It'll render them less dependent upon the west for long range strike capability, which is something that the west has a very finite amount of. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 7:49:34 PM EDT
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Since we're on the subject of domestically produced Ukrainian weapons, Ukraine is expanding its artillery arsenal. They're working on developing a towed howitzer and increasing Bohdana production. According to the official cited in that article, they're also up to producing about 20% of their own ammo, and 50% when it comes to certain calibers.
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Posted: 11/3/2023 7:53:20 PM EDT
[#44]
 Ukraine Update 2023-11-03 |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 7:58:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-Bsu0LWoAA4Say?format=jpg&name=medium Looks to me like they're using 3 different kinds of motors there. Most likely they're not interchangeable, either. Since they're one-way drones, maintenance probably isn't an issue. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 8:01:41 PM EDT
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ISW assessment for November 3rd.
https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-november-3-2023 |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 8:30:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9_9456XcAEHOtc?format=jpg&name=medium It’s really great to see them losing that much Arty. And tanks and BMP’s. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 8:37:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Quoting myself here. They can't even feed their soldier anymore. https://www.topagrar.com/panorama/news/bundeswehr-streicht-2024-rindfleisch-von-speiseplan-13518499.html Fucking disband this clown Army and give everything to Ukraine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By 4xGM300m: Originally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
One thing is clear: military support for Ukraine is a task until the end of the decade and beyond. Our budget planning already provides funds until 2032, which shows our determination," said the general. Germany is running out of money fast, in 2032 they need Ukraine assistance. The GDP is shrinking and the companies are fleeing the country because the German Gov. is fucking everything up. Quoting myself here. They can't even feed their soldier anymore. https://www.topagrar.com/panorama/news/bundeswehr-streicht-2024-rindfleisch-von-speiseplan-13518499.html Bundeswehr will remove beef from its menu in 2024 The current food for the Bundeswehr is too expensive and not “sustainable” enough. Starting next year, beef will be replaced by poultry and pork. Fri, November 3, 2023, 7:52 a.m The Bundeswehr catering office will change the troop menus from January 1, 2024. The Bild newspaper has an internal email that says food is becoming too expensive for the troops. “In order to take the price dynamics of the market into account, but also for reasons of sustainability, we are aiming for a conceptual reduction in our shopping basket. This particularly applies to the procurement of beef products, fresh fruit and frozen fish,” the letter says. At the newspaper's request, a spokesman for the Federal Office for Infrastructure, Environmental Protection and Services of the Bundeswehr confirmed that the menus had been checked and adjusted. In addition to the cost of goods sold of €62 million in the last 12 months, “changing eating habits” would also lead to changes in the troop kitchen, it is said. As of next year, beef roulades, meatballs (made from beef), hamburger meat, zander, salmon and cod fillets, as well as cherries, peaches, strawberries, oranges and watermelons will be deleted. In addition, fish dishes should only be offered once a week. Beef is being replaced in particular by poultry and pork, as well as vegetarian and vegan meat substitutes. Criticism comes from Union defense expert Florian Hahn (49, CSU): “If it actually turns out to be true that our soldiers' food should now be saved, this would be another slap in the face of our troops,” he told Bild. The Bundeswehr's assets can no longer cope with further savings - especially not when it comes to nutrition and health. “This doesn’t make the Bundeswehr more attractive and it doesn’t attract more young talent.” Fucking disband this clown Army and give everything to Ukraine. They got through Both World Wars eating nothing but Cabbage Potatoes and Sawdust, soooo…. What’s old is New again! |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 8:48:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7mmStalker]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9_9456XcAEHOtc?format=jpg&name=medium Very cool graphic. Simple and illustrates several good points. ETA: (Ukraine is using the mixed bag of arms to make a strategic effort towards winning. The bully relies on meat waves, the huge but dwindling hardware from USSR glory years, and an outdated supply of PGW.) Namely AFU are kicking the shit out of the neighborhood bully. Russian army seems to be a loose collection of knuckle dragging alcoholics and simple cretins that are provided a bunch of hardware by the FAS survivors in leadership and government. |
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Posted: 11/3/2023 8:53:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Cypher15]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 7mmStalker: Very cool graphic. Simple and illustrates several good points. Namely AFU are kicking the shit out of the neighborhood bully. Russian army seems to be a loose collection of knuckle dragging alcoholics and simple cretins that are provided a bunch of hardware by the FAS survivors in leadership and government. |
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