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Posted: 1/12/2024 4:03:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/12/2024 4:04:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: WTAF??? A NASA astronaut is going up with fucking terrorist Russians?! Hostage reception committee pick up the red courtesy phone. Hostage reception committee to the red commie courtesy phone. This clown show is so pathetic I’m crying. WTAF. How much are we paying the Russians to hold one of our astronauts captive in space? As retarded as the Republicans are, Biden says Hold my beer and watch this!!!! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Originally Posted By Prime: At Baikonur, ships were reactivated for launch to the ISS The Progress MS-26 cargo ship and the manned Soyuz MS-25 have been in storage since 2023. Specialists of the Rocket and Space Corporation Energia named after S.P. Korolev conducted an external inspection and checked the original condition of the on-board systems. The preparation of the tanks of the “Spring” system of the Progress MS-26 ship for filling with drinking water has begun. In the near future, test switching on of service equipment and comprehensive electrical tests of the Soyuz MS-25 spacecraft are planned. “The launch of the Soyuz-2.1a launch vehicle with the Progress MS-26 spacecraft is planned for February 15, 2024. The launch of the Soyuz MS-25 spacecraft by the Soyuz-2.1a launch vehicle is scheduled for March 2024. The main crew of the 21st expedition includes Roscosmos cosmonaut Oleg Novitsky, space flight participant from the Republic of Belarus Marina Vasilevskaya and NASA astronaut Tracy Dyson,” Roscosmos reported. https://t.me/orda_kz/73141 WTAF??? A NASA astronaut is going up with fucking terrorist Russians?! Hostage reception committee pick up the red courtesy phone. Hostage reception committee to the red commie courtesy phone. This clown show is so pathetic I’m crying. WTAF. How much are we paying the Russians to hold one of our astronauts captive in space? As retarded as the Republicans are, Biden says Hold my beer and watch this!!!! There was an interview on Ukraine the Latest a while ago with a US astronaut about cooperation in space. He had some pretty interesting things to say, mostly on a personal basis regarding the Russian cosmonauts. Basically, he was tremendously disappointed that people he knew to think otherwise were enthusiastically toeing the party line on the war.  Moscow's moon mission ends in disaster & interview with NASA astronaut | Ukraine: The Latest | Pod |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 4:40:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: WTAF??? A NASA astronaut is going up with fucking terrorist Russians?! Hostage reception committee pick up the red courtesy phone. Hostage reception committee to the red commie courtesy phone. This clown show is so pathetic I’m crying. WTAF. How much are we paying the Russians to hold one of our astronauts captive in space? As retarded as the Republicans are, Biden says Hold my beer and watch this!!!! Calm down, dude. We've been buying a token seat on Soyuz for years. We don't need it but its an international space cooperation thing for just in case. They buy seats on Crew Dragon for the same reason. Its a planned mission to the ISS, not a hostage situation. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 6:07:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lorazepam: Russia doesn't have a big enough economy overall to support a full on war economy footing. Yeah but if they are just 10% above NATO production and 8700% more in commitment for spending time and manpower, they win. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 6:08:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lieh-tzu: They only have to be big enough to beat Ukraine. And they are. Western support stops, Ukraine loses. Same as two years ago. Exactly. And Russia knows this and is motivated by it. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 6:13:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunLvrPHD: Why are we always held to higher standards? The Dems elects hundreds to poo-flinging chimps. It's why we're in this current disaster. If your GOAL is to cover the place in shit (destroy the Republic) then shit-flinging-monkeys are needed. It's MUCH easier to destroy than to build or maintain. The Dems are NOT there to support higher standards... |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 6:14:48 AM EDT
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Ukrainian Iveco LMV (Lince) armored vehicle, equipped with a Leonardo (Oto Melara) HITROLE Light remote-controlled combat module with a 12.7 mm M2 machine gun, destroyed by Russian loitering ammunition "Lancet".
Соmbat work of Russian crews of T-72B3 tanks. Tankers from Buryatia are on duty on the line of combat contact around the clock, taking turns replacing each other. Сombat work of the Sani mortar crew |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 6:17:23 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/12/2024 6:32:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: On Jan. 11 at 2:30 a.m. (Sanaa time), U.S. Central Command forces, in coordination with the United Kingdom, and support from Australia, Canada, the Netherlands, and Bahrain conducted joint strikes on Houthi targets to degrade their capability to continue their illegal and reckless attacks on U.S. and international vessels and commercial shipping in the Red Sea. This multinational action targeted radar systems, air defense systems, and storage and launch sites for one way attack unmanned aerial systems, cruise missiles, and ballistic missiles. Since Oct. 17, 2023, Iranian-backed Houthi militants have attempted to attack and harass 27 ships in international shipping lanes. These illegal incidents include attacks that have employed anti-ship ballistic missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles and cruise missiles in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden. These strikes have no association with and are separate from Operation Prosperity Guardian, a defensive coalition of over 20 countries operating in the Red Sea, Bab al-Mandeb Strait, and Gulf of Aden. “We hold the Houthi militants and their destabilizing Iranian sponsors responsible for the illegal, indiscriminate, and reckless attacks on international shipping that have impacted 55 nations so far, including endangering the lives of hundreds of mariners, including the United States,” said General Michael Erik Kurilla, USCENTCOM Commander. “Their illegal and dangerous actions will not be tolerated, and they will be held accountable.”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDnIzTkXwAAmCVB?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDnI0VYWYAAMDdA?format=jpg&name=medium Letter to Parliament on maritime safety of the Red Sea Minister Bruins Slot (BZ) and Minister Ollongren (Defense) inform the House of Representatives about maritime safety in the Red Sea.
From the bombing of the airport #الحديدة a short while ago
Now new bombing and renewed raids around Hodeidah Airport https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDnHM-CWgAAVQ4-?format=jpg&name=large
Some tents and goat herds got wrecked!! |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 6:38:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Were damn lucky continental drift didn’t move Yemen out of range while Blinken was writing really really serious memos. LOL. Very good. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 6:40:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Exactly. Poland should just jump the shark and go hot with Russia and fight tooth and nail with Ukraine. It is their best chance at survival. They have seen how timid the US is even when directly attacked. Fuck that shit. Fight now or die later watching eastern Poland pulverized like Ukraine cities. Nobody is coming to save you in time. I had the same thoughts. It almost seems like NATO membership has a downside in that they have to behave. If it starts to look like Ukraine will lose, they really must make a move before Russia regains strength and momentum. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 6:55:57 AM EDT
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 Ukrainian Leopard 1 in winter camo. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 6:57:17 AM EDT
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Marina Yatsko, along with her boyfriend, Fedor, rushed to the hospital Friday after her 18-month-old son, Kirill, was wounded in a shelling in Mariupol, Ukraine.
Medical workers frantically tried to save the boy’s life. He didn’t survive.  Ukrainian baby boy killed during Russian shelling in Mariupol, Ukraine Three generations of family killed in Russian missile strike – BBC News  Three generations of family killed in Russian missile strike – BBC News  ???????? ?????? ?????????? ??????? ? ?????? 3-???????? ????, ?? ???? ? ??????? These two are about the same incident. A 3-month old. At 1:00 the woman eloquently explains that it's our common pain, there is that matter of commonality and ultimately unity and empathy, they deal with it together. Empathy and compassion are qualities which are absent in sociopaths and psychopaths who are unable to authentically process these feelings towards their neighbors. The situation in Ukraine is in fact very much analogous to a house in which a neighbor has taken hostages and is sadistically killing them one by one, Jeffrey Dahmer style, who tortured and consumed his victims. Except that in the case of Ukraine, their neighbors are debating whether to interfere and help, since it's not their house and they should worry about their internal issues. Except that no country on the planet is immune to a colossal humanitarian disaster which is currently unfolding in Ukraine, not even the US. Who knows what will happen here in the future. Ukrainian children died yesterday, today and without a doubt, someone, somewhere, will die tomorrow or the day after tomorrow under a "Kinzhal" hypersonic missile or a Shahed. It's unknown who and where, but someone in Ukraine will definitely get hit tomorrow. Six year old girl here. Doctors weren't able to save her.  "?????? ??????? ?? ???????": 16 ????? ???????, 45 ?????? - ???????? ???????? ??????? a 4 year old here. It goes on and on.  ???? ???????? ??? ?????????? ?????? ???? ?????? ?? ??’???? ? ?????????  Child among those killed in Russian missile strike on Ukraine's Chernihiv | ABC News A 2 year old here wounded in the stomach. Next to him a 15 year old girl lost her right leg.  "???? ???????? ??? ????????????". ? ???????? ??????? ??? ????????? ????? ?????????? ??????? 2 year old boy from Mariupol 6 year old A wounded 3-year old from Mariopul is calling for his father:  ??????? ??????? ?????? ? ????? ?????? ???? ????? ????????? ?? ????????? А 3 year old lost his legs:  ????? 50 ????? ?????: ????? ???????? ??????? ???????????? ?????????? ????? / ????? ? ??????? Meanwhile, here is what Republicans are doing. Backstabbing Ukraine to our enemies' delight. Sabotaging the war effort. Sickening and disturbing doesn't even begin to encompass it. I really have no words to express my contempt for these psychopaths in light of the above. The above is the norm, has gone on for the last 2 years and will probably go on for the next 2 years (or 5, or 10). |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 7:39:36 AM EDT
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The Houthi militia announced the killing of 5 of its members and the wounding of 6 others following the American-British strikes that struck several military sites belonging to the militia at dawn on Friday.
The Houthi military spokesman, Ali X, said that American and British forces launched 73 raids on Yemen. He added that the militia would not hesitate to "target sources of threat and all hostile targets on land and sea in defense of Yemen, its sovereignty and independence," as he put it. He stressed that the militia members "will continue to prevent Israeli ships or other ships heading to Israel from passing through the Red Sea and the Arabian Sea." https://www.adengad.net/news/721000
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Posted: 1/12/2024 8:18:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I had the same thoughts. It almost seems like NATO membership has a downside in that they have to behave. If it starts to look like Ukraine will lose, they really must make a move before Russia regains strength and momentum. But only as a last resort (or next to last). The Poles did that in 1920 and they almost ended up exactly like Ukraine. The Poles would need to have an exit strategy and that might be problematic -- they could end up in same situation the Ukrainians are in now. Opening a land war against Russia could easily have been Vizzini's line in Princess Bride. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 8:24:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: The Houthi militia announced the killing of 5 of its members and the wounding of 6 others following the American-British strikes that struck several military sites belonging to the militia at dawn on Friday. The Houthi military spokesman, Ali X, said that American and British forces launched 73 raids on Yemen. He added that the militia would not hesitate to "target sources of threat and all hostile targets on land and sea in defense of Yemen, its sovereignty and independence," as he put it. He stressed that the militia members "will continue to prevent Israeli ships or other ships heading to Israel from passing through the Red Sea and the Arabian Sea." https://www.adengad.net/news/721000
This is a totally off-topic, unrelated, different war, different theater, different part of the world not logically connected to the thread. Would you PLEASE create a separate thread for this as this one is already cluttered to the 9th degree? |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 8:37:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ad_nauseam: This is a totally off-topic, unrelated, different war, different theater, different part of the world not logically connected to the thread. Would you PLEASE create a separate thread for this as this one is already cluttered to the 9th degree? The main posters in this thread believe they are all connected. Putin persuaded the Iranians to persuade Hamas to attack the Jews to distract the United States from Ukraine, etc. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 8:44:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flogger23m: The problem with Russian planes is avionics. Radar technology is not as good as the west. This affects everything, including Su-35s. Their missile technology seems to suffer as well. We've seen Su-34s do low level Vietnam style bomb runs on tree lines. We don't do that anymore. We do proper SEAD, then drop a GBU/JDAM from high altitude. Russia doesn't really have many targetting pods. So while their planes can carry similar weapons they don't have enough pods or smart weapons to go around. They do seem to have a fair amount of cruise missiles, but their AGM-65 and AGM-88 counterparts are seemingly poor in comparison. It would be like having 100 rifles, but only 200 magazines and 10000 rounds of ammo for them. As for MIG-35s, last I heard Egypt wasn't too happy with them. Even India is not happy with the MIG-29K and wants to retire them already. Yes, Russia has trouble fielding proper AESA radars in numbers. However, the F-16s that Ukraine will likely get are not the latest models either. A modern Sukhoi could spell trouble vs a Rafale or Eurofighter, let alone a 70s/80s tech F-16. And we are not talking a USAF situation here. Green Ukrainian pilots vs experienced Russian pilots, I think we need to be realistic. R77/73 will still get the job done if you launch enough of them. The F-16 can carry what, 6 missiles? It is a small fighter jet. It needs external fuel tanks for most missions, which take up space. And if it is out on a ground strike mission, it might very well only carry 2 Sidewinders just in case it runs into another fighter. Also consider that the Sukhoi has better range, can carry more missiles, and the advantage could very well be on the Sukhoi side for air combat. A few hand me down F-16s will not be enough to dominate the Russian air force. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 8:52:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: I've heard that just flying the 29 requires most of a pilots cognitive ability. Let alone fighting in them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Scott: Originally Posted By Capta: I was reading up on the -29K, and India lost 3 of 16 to accidents in the last 3 years. There were also reports Russia was trying to refurb retired Mig-29s. I've heard that just flying the 29 requires most of a pilots cognitive ability. Let alone fighting in them. The F-16 has a much better fly-by-wire system. The computer translates the pilot inputs to the flight surfaces. In the Mig-29 it is possible to over stress the air frame if you pull very high Gs. It requires more experience to fly well, but less experience to get started with for a green pilot. There are less computerized systems that the pilots needs to memorize and master. We should have been training hundreds of Ukrainian pilots for the F-16 in the past 2 years already, but that process has barely started yet. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 9:03:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By strykr: ... A few hand me down F-16s will not be enough to dominate the Russian air force. No, but the most important F-16 is the first one. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 9:11:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RockNwood: Were damn lucky continental drift didn’t move Yemen out of range while Blinken was writing really really serious memos. Hilarious! Made my morning... |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:02:30 AM EDT
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Video of a RBU-6000 "Smerch-2" anti-submarine rocket launcher installed on Russian MT-LB.
Well, they hit at least some Ukrainian soil. That counts I think. 
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:08:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Some tents and goat herds got wrecked!! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Prime: On Jan. 11 at 2:30 a.m. (Sanaa time), U.S. Central Command forces, in coordination with the United Kingdom, and support from Australia, Canada, the Netherlands, and Bahrain conducted joint strikes on Houthi targets to degrade their capability to continue their illegal and reckless attacks on U.S. and international vessels and commercial shipping in the Red Sea. This multinational action targeted radar systems, air defense systems, and storage and launch sites for one way attack unmanned aerial systems, cruise missiles, and ballistic missiles. Since Oct. 17, 2023, Iranian-backed Houthi militants have attempted to attack and harass 27 ships in international shipping lanes. These illegal incidents include attacks that have employed anti-ship ballistic missiles, unmanned aerial vehicles and cruise missiles in the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden. These strikes have no association with and are separate from Operation Prosperity Guardian, a defensive coalition of over 20 countries operating in the Red Sea, Bab al-Mandeb Strait, and Gulf of Aden. “We hold the Houthi militants and their destabilizing Iranian sponsors responsible for the illegal, indiscriminate, and reckless attacks on international shipping that have impacted 55 nations so far, including endangering the lives of hundreds of mariners, including the United States,” said General Michael Erik Kurilla, USCENTCOM Commander. “Their illegal and dangerous actions will not be tolerated, and they will be held accountable.”
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDnIzTkXwAAmCVB?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDnI0VYWYAAMDdA?format=jpg&name=medium Letter to Parliament on maritime safety of the Red Sea Minister Bruins Slot (BZ) and Minister Ollongren (Defense) inform the House of Representatives about maritime safety in the Red Sea.
From the bombing of the airport #الحديدة a short while ago
Now new bombing and renewed raids around Hodeidah Airport https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDnHM-CWgAAVQ4-?format=jpg&name=large
Some tents and goat herds got wrecked!! Actually, a drone production facility and a ballistic missile stockpile got hit. I'm just waiting to see what the Houthi's can throw at the shipping for now. We will have to make a few more Tomahawk cruise misssiles, they did a job on a few radar installations and air defense systems for the F-18's to do their work easier.
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:12:57 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:13:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:15:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vtmarine: The main posters in this thread believe they are all connected. Putin persuaded the Iranians to persuade Hamas to attack the Jews to distract the United States from Ukraine, etc. I personally believe this. Except I would use "pushed" instead of persuaded. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:15:29 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:17:53 AM EDT
[Last Edit: AlmightyTallest]
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The war between the 🇺🇸US and 🇬🇧Britain against the Houthis: what is known as of this morning? ▪️List of targets hit in Yemen from CNN (preliminary): Kahlan military base, Al-Daylami airbase, Hudaydah airport area, Taiz airport, Abbs airfield; ▪️Britain confirmed strikes on two military facilities from where the Houthis are launching UAVs; ▪️British troops used 4 Typhoon FGR4 fighters to launch Paveway IV bombs. ▪️Australia, Bahrain, Canada, Denmark, Germany, the Netherlands, New Zealand and Korea called the strikes against the Houthis legitimate self-defense; ▪️The consequences are still being assessed. But the Houthis' ability to threaten commercial shipping appears to have been undermined. Video: Al Arabiya |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:20:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vahog: But only as a last resort (or next to last). The Poles did that in 1920 and they almost ended up exactly like Ukraine. The Poles would need to have an exit strategy and that might be problematic -- they could end up in same situation the Ukrainians are in now. Opening a land war against Russia could easily have been Vizzini's line in Princess Bride. Look what happened to Poland in '39. Then again in 44-45 during their "liberation" and occupation until '89... I agree it is a BIG move to enter this war but I also think Poland can see the danger coming for them. Enter now when Russia is relatively weak or enter later after they have absorbed Ukraine and they must fight against Ukrainian conscripts. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:23:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ad_nauseam: Three generations of family killed in Russian missile strike – BBC News  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TggPA1rBAf4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV5YhQbxrPIThese two are about the same incident. A 3-month old. At 1:00 the woman eloquently explains that it's our common pain, there is that matter of commonality and ultimately unity and empathy, they deal with it together. Qualities which are absent in sociopaths and psychopaths who are unable to authentically process these feelings towards their neighbors. The situation in Ukraine is in fact very much analogous to a house in which a neighbor has taken hostages and is sadistically killing them one by one, Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer style, you know cannibals who tortured and then consumed their victims. Except that in the case of Ukraine, their neighbors are debating whether to interfere and help, since it's not their house and they should worry about their internal issues. Except that no country on the planet is immune to a colossal humanitarian disaster which is currently unfolding in Ukraine, not even the US. Who knows what will happen here in the future. Ukrainian children died yesterday, today and without a doubt, someone, somewhere, will die tomorrow or the day after tomorrow under a "Kinzhal" hypersonic missile or a Shahed. It's unknown who and where, but someone in Ukraine will definitely get hit tomorrow. Six year old girl here. Doctors weren't able to save her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PNi_x8uMEca 4 year old here. It goes on and on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZFUCf6Xk8M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwpuYIrkMYo2 year old here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvStWh_aeWw2 year old boy from Mariupol 6 year old A wounded 3-year old from Mariopul is calling for his father: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEMklu8EXu8А 3 year old lost his legs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VPHO92s2PsMeanwhile, here is what Republicans are doing. Backstabbing Ukraine to our enemies delight. Sabotaging the war effort. Sickening and disturbing doesn't even begin to encompass it. https://i.imgur.com/sWePw4x.mp4 http://i.imgur.com/sWePw4x.mp4 VERY valid post. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:28:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryI first thought it was an Abrams since the turret is in travel lock. Then I remembered that US ROE prevent altering the appearance to make them more provocative or frightening...ESCALATION... |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:29:37 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:41:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: I personally believe this. Except I would use "pushed" instead of persuaded. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By vtmarine: The main posters in this thread believe they are all connected. Putin persuaded the Iranians to persuade Hamas to attack the Jews to distract the United States from Ukraine, etc. I personally believe this. Except I would use "pushed" instead of persuaded. I'm just going by what a number of people in the intelligence community (both current and former) have stated. At the very least, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence. Even R0N, who is extremely opposed to Ukraine aid, acknowledged in a thread a little while ago that there might be something to this. Personally, I don't think Putin convinced Hamas, Iran, and its proxies to go hot, but the timing does strike me as interesting, given that Russia went on the offensive in Avdiivka within 24 hours of the Hamas attack. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:56:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Look what happened to Poland in '39. Then again in 44-45 during their "liberation" and occupation until '89... I agree it is a BIG move to enter this war but I also think Poland can see the danger coming for them. Enter now when Russia is relatively weak or enter later after they have absorbed Ukraine and they must fight against Ukrainian conscripts. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By vahog: But only as a last resort (or next to last). The Poles did that in 1920 and they almost ended up exactly like Ukraine. The Poles would need to have an exit strategy and that might be problematic -- they could end up in same situation the Ukrainians are in now. Opening a land war against Russia could easily have been Vizzini's line in Princess Bride. Look what happened to Poland in '39. Then again in 44-45 during their "liberation" and occupation until '89... I agree it is a BIG move to enter this war but I also think Poland can see the danger coming for them. Enter now when Russia is relatively weak or enter later after they have absorbed Ukraine and they must fight against Ukrainian conscripts. I recall a cartoon in a Polish publication awhile back that had a group of Polish politicians and generals at an open door and inside the door was a Prussian officer (I'm not sure if it was Scharnhorst or von Moltke or someone else) and the caption was in essence "You Rang?"
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Posted: 1/12/2024 10:59:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jaehaerys: I'm just going by what a number of people in the intelligence community (both current and former) have stated. At the very least, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence. Even R0N, who is extremely opposed to Ukraine aid, acknowledged in a thread a little while ago that there might be something to this. Personally, I don't think Putin convinced Hamas, Iran, and its proxies to go hot, but the timing does strike me as interesting, given that Russia went on the offensive in Avdiivka within 24 hours of the Hamas attack. Oct 7th seems to be the watershed moment for aid to Ukraine. Everything changed with attention, money, and equipment being re-routed to Israel. Everyone was shocked by the "new" hamas tactics and technical capabilities that seemed to come out of the blue. Israel even admitted that they knew about the attack plan for over a year, which they dismissed as only "aspirational" and way outside of hamas capabilities. Really only Russia came out benefitting from the attack. Hamas is getting hammered and hopefully soon to be completely gone. Not sure what they would be thinking by conducting this attack and I bet they were as surprised by the success as anyone else. Iran is months away from a nuke and has the Xiden idiots eating out of there hand and certainly didnt benefit by the timing. Now Iran has lost hamas and maybe Hezbollah too if things get out of control. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:00:09 AM EDT
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In working remotely news, reports have surfaced in Ukraine of domestically produced remote ground weapon systems. Newly developed 'ShaBlya' remote weapon stations have been authorized for use on Ukraine's frontlines after being given the green light by Ukraine's MOD.
Three of the armed and thermal/video image-equipped RWS, built by Lviv robotics manufacturer Roboneers, have been approved for use by the Armed Forces of Ukraine, according to a Ministry of Defence (MOD) statement published late last year. The rotating tripod turret system can reportedly be armed with a 7.62mm, M240 or M2 machine gun, automatic grenade launcher and other weapons to engage targets up to 1,200 metres away. It has also previously been shown using a Steamdeck console as its controller and aiming maintained on a video monitor from a distance of 100 metres via direct cable. In related news, Ukrainian robotic vehicle strikes Russian positions. The Ukrainian military has unveiled rare footage of unmanned ground vehicle (UGV) strikes in an attack on Russian positions. The footage suggests that the remote-controlled drone engaged with Russian military forces. The video captures the drone’s assault on one of the Russian strongholds positioned near a road. The outcome of the strike and details about the specific drone used in the operation remain undisclosed. It is plausible that the robotic platform involved in the attack is the Ironclad, a revolutionary product engineered by Ukrainian innovators at Roboneers. This drone transforms the approach to warfare, contributing to the preservation of military lives. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:00:22 AM EDT
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Some Ukrainian drone operations:
The pilot of the Ukrainian Mi-8 drops candy to girls who constantly met their pilots: |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:04:04 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AlmightyTallest:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDpUlktWoAAmNpa?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDo0lr-WUAAs-OO?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDo0mR-XAAAuUbJ?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GDo6RDnW4AAuniW?format=jpg&name=large I have to hand it to the Russians and their steam-punk form and design factor...Maybe steam powered T34's will make an appearance. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:13:51 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Oct 7th seems to be the watershed moment for aid to Ukraine. Everything changed with attention, money, and equipment being re-routed to Israel. Everyone was shocked by the "new" hamas tactics and technical capabilities that seemed to come out of the blue. Israel even admitted that they knew about the attack plan for over a year, which they dismissed as only "aspirational" and way outside of hamas capabilities. Really only Russia came out benefitting from the attack. Hamas is getting hammered and hopefully soon to be completely gone. Not sure what they would be thinking by conducting this attack and I bet they were as surprised by the success as anyone else. Iran is months away from a nuke and has the Xiden idiots eating out of there hand and certainly didnt benefit by the timing. Now Iran has lost hamas and maybe Hezbollah too if things get out of control. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By Jaehaerys: I'm just going by what a number of people in the intelligence community (both current and former) have stated. At the very least, there is a lot of circumstantial evidence. Even R0N, who is extremely opposed to Ukraine aid, acknowledged in a thread a little while ago that there might be something to this. Personally, I don't think Putin convinced Hamas, Iran, and its proxies to go hot, but the timing does strike me as interesting, given that Russia went on the offensive in Avdiivka within 24 hours of the Hamas attack. Oct 7th seems to be the watershed moment for aid to Ukraine. Everything changed with attention, money, and equipment being re-routed to Israel. Everyone was shocked by the "new" hamas tactics and technical capabilities that seemed to come out of the blue. Israel even admitted that they knew about the attack plan for over a year, which they dismissed as only "aspirational" and way outside of hamas capabilities. Really only Russia came out benefitting from the attack. Hamas is getting hammered and hopefully soon to be completely gone. Not sure what they would be thinking by conducting this attack and I bet they were as surprised by the success as anyone else. Iran is months away from a nuke and has the Xiden idiots eating out of there hand and certainly didnt benefit by the timing. Now Iran has lost hamas and maybe Hezbollah too if things get out of control. At bare minimum, Russia leveraged the Gaza War to take eyes off of Ukraine in the aftermath of October 7th. With regards to Hamas, the only way the Israelis can ensure that they actually stay down long term is to commit to a full on occupation of the Gaza Strip, which they may or may not do. Otherwise, they'll just have hurt Hamas's capabilities, but not actually destroyed them. Doing that would entail years of occupation and COIN operations. Also, it's arguable that Hamas has won in the IO since, given that public opinion in the Western world has become VERY divided on the conflict (even moreso than it already was), and they brought a lot of attention to their cause and garnered a lot retarded supporters. But, I'll end the derail there. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:30:04 AM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ad_nauseam: This is a totally off-topic, unrelated, different war, different theater, different part of the world not logically connected to the thread. Would you PLEASE create a separate thread for this as this one is already cluttered to the 9th degree? Though they are tangentially related, events like this absolutely do deserve their own thread. The problem is you get a lot of retarded responses in other threads, but "because retards" is not a great reason to keep them here. I'll meet you halfway and minimize these posts to big breaking stuff and keep them inside quotes so you don't have to do a lot of scrolling to get past them. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:35:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:39:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: nraheston]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dominion21: They did not start out as “financed by Russia,” nor “far right.” (although I don’t disagree with your assessment as of now). AfD were the only reasonable group (well, there was also Pegida), who were voicing any opposition to Merkels insane decision to welcome untenable numbers of “refugees” into Germany, unchecked, beginning in 2014. AfD are right about Germany committing cultural suicide with their open border / refugee policies. Sadly, like our NRA, the Kremlin sought to exploit AfD for their own nefarious purposes. That exploitation does not, however, invalidate the legitimate concerns many Germans have about the out of control immigration policy. If AfD wins in the East, hopefully it won’t be enough to derail Ukr funding; though I share your concern there. As I’ve mentioned, my wife, kids, and in-laws are Germans. Maybe that starts to change after Wayne Lapierre's resignation https://home.nra.org/statements/nra-evp-wayne-lapierre-announces-resignation-from-nra/ |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:45:05 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Though they are tangentially related, events like this absolutely do deserve their own thread. The problem is you get a lot of retarded responses in other threads, but "because retards" is not a great reason to keep them here. I'll meet you halfway and minimize these posts to big breaking stuff and keep them inside quotes so you don't have to do a lot of scrolling to get past them. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Prime: Originally Posted By ad_nauseam: This is a totally off-topic, unrelated, different war, different theater, different part of the world not logically connected to the thread. Would you PLEASE create a separate thread for this as this one is already cluttered to the 9th degree? Though they are tangentially related, events like this absolutely do deserve their own thread. The problem is you get a lot of retarded responses in other threads, but "because retards" is not a great reason to keep them here. I'll meet you halfway and minimize these posts to big breaking stuff and keep them inside quotes so you don't have to do a lot of scrolling to get past them. We got to put North Korea here as well and China. They are all friends you know. While at it, why not include Taiwan? Can't exclude them. They are critical to electronics used in Ukraine. Let's discuss all military engagements here in this very thread. In fact I have an idea. Let's just have one thread for all military topics, past and present. This one. Obstinacy is a virtue. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:46:41 AM EDT
[#44]
Podcast at link
 Michael Kofman and Shashank Joshi Analyze the Ukrainian Battlefield in 2024 By: Andrea Kendall-Taylor, Jim Townsend, Michael Kofman and Shashank Joshi As 2023 came to a close, many people began to characterize the war in Ukraine as a stalemate. Though it is true that very little has recently changed along the front lines and that neither side will be able to make a breakthrough, this label is misleading. Indeed, as 2024 takes hold both Moscow and Kyiv are working to rebuild their offensive capacity. Developments this year regarding both sides’ access to munitions, capacity to train fighters, and the extent of casualties in the war will be critical in shaping the conflict’s long-term trajectory. As such, 2024 is likely to be a decisive year for the war in Ukraine. To discuss where things stand and where they could go, Michael Kofman and Shashank Joshi join Andrea Kendall-Taylor and Jim Townsend on this episode of Brussels Sprouts. Mike Kofman is a senior fellow in the Russia and Eurasia Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, where he focuses on the Russian military and Eurasian security issues. Shashank Joshi is the Defense Editor at The Economist and a Visiting Fellow at The Department of War Studies at King’s College London https://www.cnas.org/publications/podcast/michael-kofman-and-shashank-joshi-analyze-the-ukrainian-battlefield-in-2024 |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:46:46 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vtmarine: The main posters in this thread believe they are all connected. Putin persuaded the Iranians to persuade Hamas to attack the Jews to distract the United States from Ukraine, etc. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vtmarine: Originally Posted By ad_nauseam: This is a totally off-topic, unrelated, different war, different theater, different part of the world not logically connected to the thread. Would you PLEASE create a separate thread for this as this one is already cluttered to the 9th degree? The main posters in this thread believe they are all connected. Putin persuaded the Iranians to persuade Hamas to attack the Jews to distract the United States from Ukraine, etc. Exactly. These are all related, and perhaps the beginning of WW3 if we don't prevent it. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:52:26 AM EDT
[#46]
Cash keeps accumulating at Euroclear Bank as a result of sanctions on Russia
Nicolas Véron (PIIE) January 9, 2024 Shortly after Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine in late February of 2022, a number of governments, including the United States, all of the European Union, Japan, and others, immobilized the Bank of Russia’s reserve assets under their jurisdiction, meaning the assets remain property of the Bank of Russia, but the latter cannot move them from where they are held. Thanks to gradually increased transparency, the European Union has emerged publicly as the dominant player in that coordinated action. Most of the immobilized assets are held at Euroclear, the Brussels-based international central securities depository. In the hushed world of central bank reserve management, no such information is usually disclosed, but the amount at hand is just too large to stay hidden: the balance sheet of Euroclear Bank, the relevant subsidiary of the Euroclear Group, has grown more than fivefold since early 2022 from its prior stable level. Euroclear does not publish the amount of securities the Bank of Russia holds there, but it must account for the cash balance in quarterly disclosures of its own total assets. Euroclear’s contractual arrangements specify that cash held there is non-remunerated, to discourage clients from using it as a “safe house” for their spare money. When securities come to maturity or pay dividends or coupons, investors usually take the cash away or reinvest it into other securities during the same day, so that no amount is recorded on the Euroclear balance sheet. Because the immobilizing sanctions prevent the Bank of Russia from doing that, its cash keeps accumulating at Euroclear without yielding any interest to the Bank of Russia, on a scale that now reaches more than half of all its immobilized reserve assets in the G7, the European Union, and Australia, estimated at around €265 billion. Because the Bank of Russia’s cash deposit at Euroclear is unambiguously noninterest-bearing, there is a solid argument that the interest income that Euroclear makes on it, in the high single-digit billions of euros annually at current rates, belongs to Euroclear and not to the Bank of Russia. That income could thus be appropriated by the European Union for Ukraine’s benefit, without expropriating the Bank of Russia and thus staying in line with the European Union’s commitment to the international rule of law. The European Union plans to provide €50 billion of financial assistance to Ukraine over the period 2024–27, an amount it may have to further ramp up depending on developments on the Ukrainian frontlines and in the US Congress. The income from the immobilized assets would not cover the full aid package, but it would still help. https://www.piie.com/research/piie-charts/2024/cash-keeps-accumulating-euroclear-bank-result-sanctions-russia |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:55:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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Former vice-president of Gazprombank Igor Volobuev (recognized as a foreign agent) is wanted under a criminal article.
Volobuev openly supported Kyiv, spoke negatively about the special operation and joined the Ukrainian Armed Forces unit, the Ministry of Justice noted. https://t.me/rian_ru/227621
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:56:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: VERY valid post. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ITCHY-FINGER: Originally Posted By ad_nauseam: Three generations of family killed in Russian missile strike – BBC News https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TggPA1rBAf4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LV5YhQbxrPIThese two are about the same incident. A 3-month old. At 1:00 the woman eloquently explains that it's our common pain, there is that matter of commonality and ultimately unity and empathy, they deal with it together. Qualities which are absent in sociopaths and psychopaths who are unable to authentically process these feelings towards their neighbors. The situation in Ukraine is in fact very much analogous to a house in which a neighbor has taken hostages and is sadistically killing them one by one, Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer style, you know cannibals who tortured and then consumed their victims. Except that in the case of Ukraine, their neighbors are debating whether to interfere and help, since it's not their house and they should worry about their internal issues. Except that no country on the planet is immune to a colossal humanitarian disaster which is currently unfolding in Ukraine, not even the US. Who knows what will happen here in the future. Ukrainian children died yesterday, today and without a doubt, someone, somewhere, will die tomorrow or the day after tomorrow under a "Kinzhal" hypersonic missile or a Shahed. It's unknown who and where, but someone in Ukraine will definitely get hit tomorrow. Six year old girl here. Doctors weren't able to save her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PNi_x8uMEca 4 year old here. It goes on and on. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZFUCf6Xk8M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwpuYIrkMYo2 year old here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvStWh_aeWw2 year old boy from Mariupol 6 year old A wounded 3-year old from Mariopul is calling for his father: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEMklu8EXu8А 3 year old lost his legs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VPHO92s2PsMeanwhile, here is what Republicans are doing. Backstabbing Ukraine to our enemies delight. Sabotaging the war effort. Sickening and disturbing doesn't even begin to encompass it. https://i.imgur.com/sWePw4x.mp4 http://i.imgur.com/sWePw4x.mp4 VERY valid post. Really the "Big Picture" is that Ukraine has shown tremendous restraint. If I were in place of Zelensky, I would have found a way to demolish Kremlin. Something symbolic without any casualties. The big Kremlin tower with the big clock on it, or maybe St Basil's Cathedral, the one on the Red Square. Or the Lenin tomb where the freak still resides. Just f-ing strike it. If they can strike Kiev and kill sleeping 2 year olds on a daily basis, common sense would suggest it's only fair game to hit Moscow. They won't understand otherwise. This will have to be ended *IN* Russia. Just trust me on this one. nato is stupid. What if that leads to escalation? I mean, what are they going to do, if Moscow is hit? Bomb Kiev? We are living the worst scenario. And Putin got too much vested to strike London or Berlin or anything like that. If he can't conquer a neighboring republic which is 27 times smaller territory-wise and 1/4 of the population, and the GDP is also much less. What hope does he have of conquering anything bigger than that? And if he can't conquer Germany/Berlin/US, there is utterly no point in starting a conflict with them under any circumstances. So nato/us' fear of retaliation is unfounded. Give Ukrops some long range missiles and target Moscow. Target the 870 year old Kremlin. There, I said it. NATO/US strategists are wrong. The more damage Russia itself takes, the less likely it will continue the war and it needs internal destabilization and ultimately collapse of Putinism. That's why I think ultimately both RDK and the Legion Free Russia will play a key role in the process. They fight alongside the Ukrop partners, for now but when/if the way is over, they plan to march on Moscow itself. |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:57:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Prime]
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💥 Loud in Berdyansk. 🤷 The occupiers report that air defense is working. Unmanned aerial vehicles are shot down.
https://t.me/brdVP/16493 Khartsyzk After the work of the Katsap Air Defense Forces, there was tension in many cities on the TOT" 
Explosions in Kherson🤯 https://t.me/hueviyherson/51722 |
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Posted: 1/12/2024 11:58:32 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DKUltra]
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Weird ghost page not posting
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