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Posted: 3/17/2022 9:57:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: The US diplomats need to do a better job of wrapping up support for Ukraine/US/Europe. While we know how wishy washy China was going to be, losing India, along with Saudi Arabia is going to make shit problematic in the long run. We are in deep shit if the Mideast oil sides with those three countries. Considering that is about half the world's population it is a big deal. If the West loses a few more nations like Indonesia, Pakistan, Vietnam, Brazil, the USD could be fucked in a serious way. I don't think that is going to happen, but the pieces are starting to fall into place where it can't be ruled out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Walleyeguy24: Originally Posted By Chokey:
The US diplomats need to do a better job of wrapping up support for Ukraine/US/Europe. While we know how wishy washy China was going to be, losing India, along with Saudi Arabia is going to make shit problematic in the long run. We are in deep shit if the Mideast oil sides with those three countries. Considering that is about half the world's population it is a big deal. If the West loses a few more nations like Indonesia, Pakistan, Vietnam, Brazil, the USD could be fucked in a serious way. I don't think that is going to happen, but the pieces are starting to fall into place where it can't be ruled out. ChinaIsAsshoe is more likely to support Ukraine than Russia because they plan on infesting Ukraine once the Russians have been booted out. ChinaIsAsshoe needs wheat and needs Ukraine to finish their belt and road initiative. OTOH, they don't really need the Russians for anything. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 9:57:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: They still have plenty of good units that are held back in defense. Plenty. A lot of the good t90s (aka t90m and T90MS), cream of the crop dudes are held back specifically for this purpose should nato become directly involved. They aren’t throwing everything in this, especially good units. Haha. Let's lose hundreds of tanks so our nice ones don't get dinged up. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2022 9:57:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: Relying on English electronics. What could go wrong? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: Originally Posted By TheLurker:
A few hours old, but don't remember seeing this posted. Relying on English electronics. What could go wrong? 
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Posted: 3/17/2022 9:59:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JamesP81: Poland, Ukraine, Czechia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. Most likely. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JamesP81: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: More info from UKRInform: President’s Office: Ukraine wants to end war by forming coalition able to stop Russia in future 17.03.2022 16:37 Ukraine intends to end the war with the Russian Federation by forming a new international security coalition. “What matters to us is not status, but allies who are really ready to fight alongside us. The invasion of Ukraine has shown that the whole architecture of European security must be reconsidered. We know that Putin can only be stopped by force. NATO does not have that force. In our opinion, this is an organization whose main activity is to organize summits where the generals show that they are cool… So we want to end this war with a new coalition, so powerful that it will be able to stop Russia if it wants to attack someone again," Mykhailo Podolyak, Adviser to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, said in an interview with the Wiadomości Polish newspaper, Ukrinform reports. He explained that the basis of the coalition would be fundamentally different from the Budapest Memorandum but would provide a specific condition in line with all the rules of international law. According to the Adviser to the Head of the President’s Office, the document will describe the mechanisms that should be implemented if an attack on Ukraine occurs again. "We want to make sure that we will not be left alone on the battlefield again. The guarantor states will make certain commitments. In the future, this document can be developed and underpin a completely new alliance to ensure security all over Europe," Podolyak added. He declined to name the states that expressed readiness to join the coalition as talks continue. At the same time, the representative of the President’s Office assured that President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky would present the whole concept when they ended. In addition, Podolyak noted that the formation of the coalition was one of the key topics of the meeting of the President of Ukraine with Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Morawiecki, Prime Minister of the Czech Republic Petr Fiala, and Prime Minister of Slovenia Janez Janša in Kyiv on March 15. Podolyak stressed that Poland's accession to the new union was very important for Ukraine. "Poland is one of Ukraine's best friends today. We are infinitely grateful for the help provided and we believe that Poland and Ukraine should participate together in all negotiations on security in Europe," he said. On February 24, Russian president Vladimir Putin announced the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine. Russian troops destroy key infrastructure, massively shell residential areas of Ukrainian cities and villages using artillery, multiple launch rocket systems, and ballistic missiles. Poland, Ukraine, Czechia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. Most likely. Warsaw Pact II: Electric Boogaloo |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:00:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Haha. Let's lose hundreds of tanks so our nice ones don't get dinged up. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Originally Posted By fadedsun: They still have plenty of good units that are held back in defense. Plenty. A lot of the good t90s (aka t90m and T90MS), cream of the crop dudes are held back specifically for this purpose should nato become directly involved. They aren't throwing everything in this, especially good units. Haha. Let's lose hundreds of tanks so our nice ones don't get dinged up. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:00:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLurker:
A few hours old, but don't remember seeing this posted. So help Poland protect Poland but how about giving that to Ukraine or would that mean WW3 |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:02:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BB: Here's how I think Russia may handle this. They claim they dont want to occupy; I believe them (sorta). They will lay siege to Kiev, capture Kharkiv and declare it the new capital, and install a puppet government. Russia will then be asked by the 'new' government to help keep the peace; Russia will provide military aid to the "legitimate" govt forces (i.e. Russians). Hunting down 'dissidents' becomes the new business. Putin gets his puppet state; mission accomplished. Even before the war started we knew this. No one expects him to occupy ukraine |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:03:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack_Rackham: Are you sure you China rebuilding Ukraine? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/90884/BC7697E0-DE97-45C4-AB83-318CF8983CD8_jpe-2317182.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Jack_Rackham: Originally Posted By dillydilly: Oh I know. I said this a while ago. The Chinese are smart. Smarter and more cunning that the Russians hands down. They will take full advantage of this war and swoop in to rebuild Ukraine once it's all over. China needs their grain etc. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/90884/BC7697E0-DE97-45C4-AB83-318CF8983CD8_jpe-2317182.JPG Chyna has already invested a ton in UKR as part of Silk Road. A fair amount of their liened infrastructure is in shambles now. Stand by for the push to get the West to pony up to rebuild UKR so China can keep collecting principal and interest. |
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WV, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:03:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: More evidence of a Bio Lab cover up discovered by Russian Military Intelligence: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/191966/BFC78CA4-D3F0-4B47-B208-12F1286EEDBF_png-2316891.JPG 
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NV, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:04:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tac556: Notice that they all just haul ass for the ditch, and nobody seems to be manning the turret. Guess nobody wants to hang around the missile magnets.mm Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tac556: Originally Posted By M-1975:
Notice that they all just haul ass for the ditch, and nobody seems to be manning the turret. Guess nobody wants to hang around the missile magnets.mm Any ID on the optics the ruskies were using? Looks like a Holosun / T2 clone? |
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NH, USA
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:04:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mnd6563: I just learned on another GD thread that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is really about covering up the Clinton foundation sourcing child sex slaves in Ukraine along with bio lab experimentation related to the NWO wanting to reduce global populations. I think I'll just stick to this thread for the foreseeable future... I had no idea my younger brother was a member here. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:05:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker:  From their web site: "The website located at https://www.zerohedge.com (the Website) is owned by ABC Media, Ltd., a Bulgarian company." Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By Shenanigunz: Originally Posted By Chokey:
zero hedge so more likely to be false than true ZeroHedge is Russian owned. From their web site: "The website located at https://www.zerohedge.com (the Website) is owned by ABC Media, Ltd., a Bulgarian company." They are a Russian mouthpiece. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:05:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: dillydilly]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Chokey:
BAYRAKTARRRRR!!!!  Ya ya I know it’s not one - just love saying that every time anything drone related is shown haha. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:07:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: He still hasn't named who the good units are. They could be fucking studs but it's a numbers game. We can funnel more ATGMs into Ukraine than Russia has had, has or will have tanks. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:07:33 PM EDT
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[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Theodoric: It's not Russian owned, it's a Russia-friendly Kremlin amplifier. The owners father was a state-friendly journalist in Communist Bulgaria. Multiple analyses of content on Zerohedge have demonstrated that it propagates Russia friendly stories through its content referrer network much more often than other sites. That could be due to the owner's Russia-friendly bias, or it could be due to an arrangement. The problem with these alt-news sites is that they lack any transparency, have no editorial oversight and no publicly available owner or interest data. At least with shills like WaPo and the NYT, they are transparent enough that you know which interests they are pushing. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/1D97CFAC-D140-4B8C-A888-63C17AFD7FF8-2316045.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/CFFAAE6B-E1E5-427A-8C89-3BF71290056B-2316047.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Theodoric: Originally Posted By Voland: Originally Posted By kncook: ZeroHedge is Russian owned. You keep saying that... but whats your proof? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/1D97CFAC-D140-4B8C-A888-63C17AFD7FF8-2316045.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/CFFAAE6B-E1E5-427A-8C89-3BF71290056B-2316047.jpg So they can do some further reading... https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR2200/RR2237/RAND_RR2237.pdf |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:08:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Star_Scream: Haha. Let's lose hundreds of tanks so our nice ones don't get dinged up. More like keep those guys in reserve because Putin wants the best defending Moscow and keeping internal unrest down |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:09:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: He still hasn't named who the good units are. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: Originally Posted By Star_Scream: Originally Posted By fadedsun: They still have plenty of good units that are held back in defense. Plenty. A lot of the good t90s (aka t90m and T90MS), cream of the crop dudes are held back specifically for this purpose should nato become directly involved. They aren't throwing everything in this, especially good units. Haha. Let's lose hundreds of tanks so our nice ones don't get dinged up. I would think Putin would indeed want to keep some of his best equipped and most loyal units out of this shitshow, if only to protect Moscow and himself from his paranoid delusions of an outside attack or to guard against a potential coup or revolution. But for those same reasons I doubt we’d see them get committed to Ukraine. But who knows. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:09:35 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Javak: Warsaw Pact II: Electric Boogaloo Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Javak: Originally Posted By JamesP81: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: More info from UKRInform: President’s Office: Ukraine wants to end war by forming coalition able to stop Russia in future 17.03.2022 16:37 Ukraine intends to end the war with the Russian Federation by forming a new international security coalition. “What matters to us is not status, but allies who are really ready to fight alongside us. The invasion of Ukraine has shown that the whole architecture of European security must be reconsidered. We know that Putin can only be stopped by force. NATO does not have that force. In our opinion, this is an organization whose main activity is to organize summits where the generals show that they are cool… So we want to end this war with a new coalition, so powerful that it will be able to stop Russia if it wants to attack someone again," Mykhailo Podolyak, Adviser to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, said in an interview with the Wiadomości Polish newspaper, Ukrinform reports. He explained that the basis of the coalition would be fundamentally different from the Budapest Memorandum but would provide a specific condition in line with all the rules of international law. According to the Adviser to the Head of the President’s Office, the document will describe the mechanisms that should be implemented if an attack on Ukraine occurs again. "We want to make sure that we will not be left alone on the battlefield again. The guarantor states will make certain commitments. In the future, this document can be developed and underpin a completely new alliance to ensure security all over Europe," Podolyak added. He declined to name the states that expressed readiness to join the coalition as talks continue. At the same time, the representative of the President’s Office assured that President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky would present the whole concept when they ended. In addition, Podolyak noted that the formation of the coalition was one of the key topics of the meeting of the President of Ukraine with Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Morawiecki, Prime Minister of the Czech Republic Petr Fiala, and Prime Minister of Slovenia Janez Janša in Kyiv on March 15. Podolyak stressed that Poland's accession to the new union was very important for Ukraine. "Poland is one of Ukraine's best friends today. We are infinitely grateful for the help provided and we believe that Poland and Ukraine should participate together in all negotiations on security in Europe," he said. On February 24, Russian president Vladimir Putin announced the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine. Russian troops destroy key infrastructure, massively shell residential areas of Ukrainian cities and villages using artillery, multiple launch rocket systems, and ballistic missiles. Poland, Ukraine, Czechia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. Most likely. Warsaw Pact II: Electric Boogaloo POLISH LITHUANIAN COMMENWEALTH AND FRIENDS |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:10:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Unreal. I spoke to four people in the past two days w ho said they are done with Carlson. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By atavistic: McGregor was on Tucker. He just wanted you to know the UKR military was defeated, a spent force. UKR needs to agree to terms, and be grateful for whatever Putin offers. Then we need to drop all these silly sanctions and suck up to them since they have one of the most pre-eminent militaries on the planet. He looked like he'd been huffing glue for the past 48 hours. Unreal. I spoke to four people in the past two days w ho said they are done with Carlson. Ill admit it. I haven't watched fox in 2 weeks. I am watching CNN. Their coverage is FAR better in this war. Their reporting is far (on this) and not full of shit coward defeatist idiots. The ONLY person on fox who is informed on this conflict is Jennifer Griffin and you are lucky to get 20 minutes of her. Sorry it's true. They may be a leftist trash network, but they're covering this well. It's the one thing that the left and right can agree on in the last decade or more. Tucker has become a Fucking arrogant jackass, and his guests Fucking suck. CNN is covering this war properly. Fox just wants to bitch about politics and hunters laptop, and I'm not Fucking sorry. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:11:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NHTriumph: I had no idea my younger brother was a member here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NHTriumph: Originally Posted By mnd6563: I just learned on another GD thread that the Russian invasion of Ukraine is really about covering up the Clinton foundation sourcing child sex slaves in Ukraine along with bio lab experimentation related to the NWO wanting to reduce global populations. I think I'll just stick to this thread for the foreseeable future... I had no idea my younger brother was a member here. I thought the Q crowd in here were bad until I visited the other Ukraine threads in GD and thought to myself how embarrasing it was to see so many low-iq members spewing some of the craziest conspiracy crap ever. The biggest Total clown show of mental deficient group ever. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:12:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bjfoien: Colt's submitted a request for BATF approval on October 23, 1963 and the first consumer AR-15 was produced for sale by Colt's January 2, 1964. For decades, Colt's was the only option if you wanted to own an AR-15. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bjfoien: Originally Posted By Johnny_Utah_88: Originally Posted By CurseOfKatyn: Originally Posted By ottodog8: I bought my first AR-15 in 1972, a couple of years before I was issued one. You? Knock off the bullshit or step out of the thread. Your choice. Colt's submitted a request for BATF approval on October 23, 1963 and the first consumer AR-15 was produced for sale by Colt's January 2, 1964. For decades, Colt's was the only option if you wanted to own an AR-15. My uncle bought one brand new around 1970. Fortunately he still has it. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:12:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Himarker180: And Matt Gaetz Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Himarker180: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic: Originally Posted By bikedamon:
Who were the 8 idiots? GD heroes Boebert and MTG were 2. And Matt Gaetz Maybe there was some other leftist shit in the bill that they couldn't vote for. Otherwise, I am not sure why they would oppose it. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:12:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: They still have plenty of good units that are held back in defense. Plenty. A lot of the good t90s (aka t90m and T90MS), cream of the crop dudes are held back specifically for this purpose should nato become directly involved. They aren’t throwing everything in this, especially good units. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: Originally Posted By Yobro512: Ah yes. The legendary “real army” Putin has been holding onto. The one full of T14’s, T90’s and VDV troopers. The cream of the Russian army was KIA,MIA, POW week 1. The paratroopers got waxed on the air, land and sea and that’s no exaggeration. They still have plenty of good units that are held back in defense. Plenty. A lot of the good t90s (aka t90m and T90MS), cream of the crop dudes are held back specifically for this purpose should nato become directly involved. They aren’t throwing everything in this, especially good units.  Attached File |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:12:36 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Theodoric: It's not Russian owned, it's a Russia-friendly Kremlin amplifier. The owners father was a state-friendly journalist in Communist Bulgaria. Multiple analyses of content on Zerohedge have demonstrated that it propagates Russia friendly stories through its content referrer network much more often than other sites. That could be due to the owner's Russia-friendly bias, or it could be due to an arrangement. The problem with these alt-news sites is that they lack any transparency, have no editorial oversight and no publicly available owner or interest data. At least with shills like WaPo and the NYT, they are transparent enough that you know which interests they are pushing. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/1D97CFAC-D140-4B8C-A888-63C17AFD7FF8-2316045.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/CFFAAE6B-E1E5-427A-8C89-3BF71290056B-2316047.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Theodoric: Originally Posted By Voland: Originally Posted By kncook: ZeroHedge is Russian owned. You keep saying that... but whats your proof? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/1D97CFAC-D140-4B8C-A888-63C17AFD7FF8-2316045.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/CFFAAE6B-E1E5-427A-8C89-3BF71290056B-2316047.jpg This is just complete crap. None of that is true. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:12:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FOEbg69WUA0212J?format=jpg&name=medium  Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:13:14 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Javak: Warsaw Pact II: Electric Boogaloo Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Javak: Originally Posted By JamesP81: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: More info from UKRInform: President’s Office: Ukraine wants to end war by forming coalition able to stop Russia in future 17.03.2022 16:37 Ukraine intends to end the war with the Russian Federation by forming a new international security coalition. “What matters to us is not status, but allies who are really ready to fight alongside us. The invasion of Ukraine has shown that the whole architecture of European security must be reconsidered. We know that Putin can only be stopped by force. NATO does not have that force. In our opinion, this is an organization whose main activity is to organize summits where the generals show that they are cool… So we want to end this war with a new coalition, so powerful that it will be able to stop Russia if it wants to attack someone again," Mykhailo Podolyak, Adviser to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, said in an interview with the Wiadomości Polish newspaper, Ukrinform reports. He explained that the basis of the coalition would be fundamentally different from the Budapest Memorandum but would provide a specific condition in line with all the rules of international law. According to the Adviser to the Head of the President’s Office, the document will describe the mechanisms that should be implemented if an attack on Ukraine occurs again. "We want to make sure that we will not be left alone on the battlefield again. The guarantor states will make certain commitments. In the future, this document can be developed and underpin a completely new alliance to ensure security all over Europe," Podolyak added. He declined to name the states that expressed readiness to join the coalition as talks continue. At the same time, the representative of the President’s Office assured that President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky would present the whole concept when they ended. In addition, Podolyak noted that the formation of the coalition was one of the key topics of the meeting of the President of Ukraine with Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Morawiecki, Prime Minister of the Czech Republic Petr Fiala, and Prime Minister of Slovenia Janez Janša in Kyiv on March 15. Podolyak stressed that Poland's accession to the new union was very important for Ukraine. "Poland is one of Ukraine's best friends today. We are infinitely grateful for the help provided and we believe that Poland and Ukraine should participate together in all negotiations on security in Europe," he said. On February 24, Russian president Vladimir Putin announced the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine. Russian troops destroy key infrastructure, massively shell residential areas of Ukrainian cities and villages using artillery, multiple launch rocket systems, and ballistic missiles. Poland, Ukraine, Czechia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. Most likely. Warsaw Pact II: Electric Boogaloo I'd bet that's a hard 'No' from Putin. We wants a group he controls. And the NATO gang ain't leaving Uncle Sugartits. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:13:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: Ill admit it. I haven't watched fox in 2 weeks. I am watching CNN. Their coverage is FAR better in this war. Their reporting is far (on this) and not full of shit coward defeatist idiots. The ONLY person on fox who is informed on this conflict is Jennifer Griffin and you are lucky to get 20 minutes of her. Sorry it's true. They may be a leftist trash network, but they're covering this well. It's the one thing that the left and right can agree on in the last decade or more. Tucker has become a Fucking arrogant jackass, and his guests Fucking suck. CNN is covering this war properly. Fox just wants to bitch about politics and hunters laptop, and I'm not Fucking sorry. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By atavistic: McGregor was on Tucker. He just wanted you to know the UKR military was defeated, a spent force. UKR needs to agree to terms, and be grateful for whatever Putin offers. Then we need to drop all these silly sanctions and suck up to them since they have one of the most pre-eminent militaries on the planet. He looked like he'd been huffing glue for the past 48 hours. Unreal. I spoke to four people in the past two days w ho said they are done with Carlson. Ill admit it. I haven't watched fox in 2 weeks. I am watching CNN. Their coverage is FAR better in this war. Their reporting is far (on this) and not full of shit coward defeatist idiots. The ONLY person on fox who is informed on this conflict is Jennifer Griffin and you are lucky to get 20 minutes of her. Sorry it's true. They may be a leftist trash network, but they're covering this well. It's the one thing that the left and right can agree on in the last decade or more. Tucker has become a Fucking arrogant jackass, and his guests Fucking suck. CNN is covering this war properly. Fox just wants to bitch about politics and hunters laptop, and I'm not Fucking sorry. I’ve flipped to BBC World News a few times and it always feels like I’m watching US network evening news from the 80s. Entirely possible I’ve missed better reporting there I suppose. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:14:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Good read, especially when he tks about all the volunteers running away. Lol. When they found out war isn't like call of duty they tucked tail and ran back across the border.  Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By spydercomonkey: Russian troops so incompetent it’s embarrassing, says ex British Army sniper on frontline in Ukraine  war:https://archive.ph/gI99R Good read, especially when he tks about all the volunteers running away. Lol. When they found out war isn't like call of duty they tucked tail and ran back across the border. I did see elsewhere about ex-Iraq/AFG service people leaving because they discovered that artillery fire and a contested airspace weren't fun...which is concerning. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:14:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: Relying on English electronics. What could go wrong? TU22 crewmember: There's a message coming through sir.... Limey SAM site: YOUR MOTHER WAS A WHORE AND YOUR FATHER SMELLS OF ELDERBERRIES! |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:14:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Firearmsenthusiast: That map is complete garbage. First strike targets will be the missile silos in ND and MT, any submarines in Port, and air bases with nuclear capable aircraft. There are 400 active minute man missiles and 40 launch control centers. The soviet doctrine was multiple hits per target to ensure destruction. They won't have many left after those targets. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:17:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheLurker:
The ratings war is serious business "Accidentally leaked" Kremlin memo is my guess... that MSNBC just happened to get ahold of.  Tucker deserves the heat, though, for some of the crap he's been stirring up. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:17:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: governmentman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: Relying on English electronics. What could go wrong? English electronics aren't too bad, they don't leak oil quite as often as English automobiles |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:19:00 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: @Voland Owned by ABC Media Bulgaria (front company). This is the father of the creator and editor. He is a former Soviet Foreign affairs chief in USSR: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krassimir_Ivandjiiski But you’re right. Maybe I should say “Soviet” owned instead of Russian. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By Voland: Originally Posted By kncook: ZeroHedge is Russian owned. You keep saying that... but whats your proof? @Voland Owned by ABC Media Bulgaria (front company). This is the father of the creator and editor. He is a former Soviet Foreign affairs chief in USSR: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krassimir_Ivandjiiski But you’re right. Maybe I should say “Soviet” owned instead of Russian. Nonsense. Part of the reason for basing ZeroHedge in Bulgaria is to avoid some of the problems associated with uncovering financial "irregularities" in US firms. Remember that ZeroHedge was one of the only web sites that saw the whole MBS meltdown and Lehman's bust coming. They have a financial network of folks that's second to none. My only complaint with them is that they've taken on a very doomer-ish slant on pretty much everything over the last 3-4 years. Granted, it's easy to get that way when all you see is deliberate lies everywhere but still. It gets old after a while. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:19:39 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: I would think Putin would indeed want to keep some of his best equipped and most loyal units out of this shitshow, if only to protect Moscow and himself from his paranoid delusions of an outside attack or to guard against a potential coup or revolution. But for those same reasons I doubt we'd see them get committed to Ukraine. But who knows. The VDV, 4th Guards, 1st Guards Tank Army, and a few others are (were) considered elite and so far they're getting chewed up. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:19:57 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: The UK today (Thursday 17 March) announced it is suspending the exchange and sharing of tax information with Russia and Belarus as part of continued efforts to inflict economic pain on President Putin's regime. The UK has suspended all exchange of tax information with Russia and Belarus under the UK's exchange of information agreements Move is among a number of measures being taken within the tax system to support Ukraine and inflict economic pain on Putin's regime UK Government has already announced plans for families participating in the new Homes for Ukraine scheme to receive a 350-a-month tax-free payment and an easement on customs to make it easier to supply humanitarian aid to Ukraine The UK exchanges tax information with Russia under the Convention on Mutual Administrative Assistance in Tax Matters and Russia and Belarus under bilateral Double Tax Agreements. This tax information is exchanged as part of global collaboration to address tax compliance risks, however, today's decision to suspend tax information exchange will ensure the UK is not supplying Putin's regime with information that could lead to an increased tax benefit or yield for Russia. Ukraine or United Kingdom UK? |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:20:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: Work of art. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PurpleOtter: Originally Posted By outofbattery: TOS-1 is disabled by a Jav,second hit goes boom.
That 2nd hit and effect was awesome Hope the russkies were in the blast range |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:20:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ryan_Ruck]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: This is just complete crap. None of that is true. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By Theodoric: Originally Posted By Voland: Originally Posted By kncook: ZeroHedge is Russian owned. You keep saying that... but whats your proof? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/1D97CFAC-D140-4B8C-A888-63C17AFD7FF8-2316045.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/CFFAAE6B-E1E5-427A-8C89-3BF71290056B-2316047.jpg This is just complete crap. None of that is true. You sure? This is the source: https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR2200/RR2237/RAND_RR2237.pdf ETA: Published in 2018 at the direction of the Trump DoD - "This research was sponsored by the Office of the Secretary of Defense’s Rapid Reaction Technology Office and conducted within the International Security and Defense Policy Center of the RAND National Defense Research Institute, a federally funded research and development center sponsored by the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the Joint Staff, the Unified Combatant Commands, the Navy, the Marine Corps, the defense agencies, and the defense Intelligence Community." |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:22:19 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: MTG, Bobert and Gaetz are giant tards but GD loves to bend over backwards to explain away their stupid moves. Besides this vote and her tweet today on how we shouldn’t be supplying Ukraine, MTG also released a video stating Ukraine has no chance of winning and the US and Europe are giving them false hope by supplying them. As good Christians we should encourage them to surrender to save lives. Much like Tucker Fucking Carlson, the useful idiots keep making excuses for statements that are crystal clear when simply taken at face value. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By SilverBearX: Originally Posted By Shenanigunz: Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic: Originally Posted By bikedamon:
Who were the 8 idiots? Glenn Grothman Thomas Massie Matt Gaetz Lauren Boebert Andy Biggs Marjorie Taylor Greene Chip Roy Dan Bishop Putin is attacking Ukraine! Lets all give up some Liberty! It is not like we did not know this is one of the objectives Democrats have been aiming for for two decades. Amazing that after the last two years of Covid BS, that many are still so easily fooled. It is fine to sanction Putin, hell as far as I am concerned, stick a missile up his ass, but this legislation appears to be...problematic. It’s for foreign citizens. Please tell me you actually read the bill and aren’t just trusting tweets? MTG, Bobert and Gaetz are giant tards but GD loves to bend over backwards to explain away their stupid moves. Besides this vote and her tweet today on how we shouldn’t be supplying Ukraine, MTG also released a video stating Ukraine has no chance of winning and the US and Europe are giving them false hope by supplying them. As good Christians we should encourage them to surrender to save lives. Much like Tucker Fucking Carlson, the useful idiots keep making excuses for statements that are crystal clear when simply taken at face value. I don't think we should be supplying Ukraine, especially not openly. So what. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:22:31 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: They are a Russian mouthpiece. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AROKIE: Originally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By Shenanigunz: Originally Posted By Chokey:
zero hedge so more likely to be false than true ZeroHedge is Russian owned. From their web site: "The website located at https://www.zerohedge.com (the Website) is owned by ABC Media, Ltd., a Bulgarian company." They are a Russian mouthpiece. @planemaker Go to my post with the link of who the founder/editor and his dad, the former foreign trade chief of the USSR are. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:22:34 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: MTG, Bobert and Gaetz are giant tards but GD loves to bend over backwards to explain away their stupid moves. Besides this vote and her tweet today on how we shouldn’t be supplying Ukraine, MTG also released a video stating Ukraine has no chance of winning and the US and Europe are giving them false hope by supplying them. As good Christians we should encourage them to surrender to save lives. Much like Tucker Fucking Carlson, the useful idiots keep making excuses for statements that are crystal clear when simply taken at face value. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bikedamon: Originally Posted By kncook: Originally Posted By SilverBearX: Originally Posted By Shenanigunz: Originally Posted By DeathMetalMedic: Originally Posted By bikedamon:
Who were the 8 idiots? Glenn Grothman Thomas Massie Matt Gaetz Lauren Boebert Andy Biggs Marjorie Taylor Greene Chip Roy Dan Bishop Putin is attacking Ukraine! Lets all give up some Liberty! It is not like we did not know this is one of the objectives Democrats have been aiming for for two decades. Amazing that after the last two years of Covid BS, that many are still so easily fooled. It is fine to sanction Putin, hell as far as I am concerned, stick a missile up his ass, but this legislation appears to be...problematic. It’s for foreign citizens. Please tell me you actually read the bill and aren’t just trusting tweets? MTG, Bobert and Gaetz are giant tards but GD loves to bend over backwards to explain away their stupid moves. Besides this vote and her tweet today on how we shouldn’t be supplying Ukraine, MTG also released a video stating Ukraine has no chance of winning and the US and Europe are giving them false hope by supplying them. As good Christians we should encourage them to surrender to save lives. Much like Tucker Fucking Carlson, the useful idiots keep making excuses for statements that are crystal clear when simply taken at face value. Post the video |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:23:36 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Javak: Warsaw Pact II: Electric Boogaloo Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Javak: Originally Posted By JamesP81: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: More info from UKRInform: President’s Office: Ukraine wants to end war by forming coalition able to stop Russia in future 17.03.2022 16:37 Ukraine intends to end the war with the Russian Federation by forming a new international security coalition. “What matters to us is not status, but allies who are really ready to fight alongside us. The invasion of Ukraine has shown that the whole architecture of European security must be reconsidered. We know that Putin can only be stopped by force. NATO does not have that force. In our opinion, this is an organization whose main activity is to organize summits where the generals show that they are cool… So we want to end this war with a new coalition, so powerful that it will be able to stop Russia if it wants to attack someone again," Mykhailo Podolyak, Adviser to the Head of the Office of the President of Ukraine, said in an interview with the Wiadomości Polish newspaper, Ukrinform reports. He explained that the basis of the coalition would be fundamentally different from the Budapest Memorandum but would provide a specific condition in line with all the rules of international law. According to the Adviser to the Head of the President’s Office, the document will describe the mechanisms that should be implemented if an attack on Ukraine occurs again. "We want to make sure that we will not be left alone on the battlefield again. The guarantor states will make certain commitments. In the future, this document can be developed and underpin a completely new alliance to ensure security all over Europe," Podolyak added. He declined to name the states that expressed readiness to join the coalition as talks continue. At the same time, the representative of the President’s Office assured that President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky would present the whole concept when they ended. In addition, Podolyak noted that the formation of the coalition was one of the key topics of the meeting of the President of Ukraine with Prime Minister of Poland Mateusz Morawiecki, Prime Minister of the Czech Republic Petr Fiala, and Prime Minister of Slovenia Janez Janša in Kyiv on March 15. Podolyak stressed that Poland's accession to the new union was very important for Ukraine. "Poland is one of Ukraine's best friends today. We are infinitely grateful for the help provided and we believe that Poland and Ukraine should participate together in all negotiations on security in Europe," he said. On February 24, Russian president Vladimir Putin announced the beginning of the invasion of Ukraine. Russian troops destroy key infrastructure, massively shell residential areas of Ukrainian cities and villages using artillery, multiple launch rocket systems, and ballistic missiles. Poland, Ukraine, Czechia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. Most likely. Warsaw Pact II: Electric Boogaloo I think I’m on solid ground when I say their armored cavalry division should be called the Winged Hussar division
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:24:35 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975: He still hasn't named who the good units are. My understanding is that the 1st Guards Tank Army is supposed to be their best. They’ve been getting beaver chewed in eastern Ukraine. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:25:32 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobRoberts: Well I guess the TOS is certainly not inert lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BobRoberts: Originally Posted By outofbattery: TOS-1 is disabled by a Jav,second hit goes boom.
Well I guess the TOS is certainly not inert lol I hope they're hunting those TOS-1 tanks at eevery opportunity Can you imagine being in a stuck convoy in a truck or car and theres a TOS unit behind and infront of you May those ukranian soldiers aim be true and they have all the luck destroying those units |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:25:57 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: They still have plenty of good units that are held back in defense. Plenty. A lot of the good t90s (aka t90m and T90MS), cream of the crop dudes are held back specifically for this purpose should nato become directly involved. They aren’t throwing everything in this, especially good units. What do you base that on? |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:26:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ServusVeritatis]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: This is just complete crap. None of that is true. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By planemaker: Originally Posted By Theodoric: Originally Posted By Voland: Originally Posted By kncook: ZeroHedge is Russian owned. You keep saying that... but whats your proof? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/1D97CFAC-D140-4B8C-A888-63C17AFD7FF8-2316045.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/124774/CFFAAE6B-E1E5-427A-8C89-3BF71290056B-2316047.jpg This is just complete crap. None of that is true. @planemaker Read up buttercup. Dad helps son run it. Dad was a Soviet/USSR propaganda front member. There will be a quiz at the end of class. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krassimir_Ivandjiiski |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:27:54 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BB: Post the video @BB  Failed To Load Title |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:28:01 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fadedsun: More like keep those guys in reserve because Putin wants the best defending Moscow and keeping internal unrest down I think if we get to that point tanks are going to be pointless. |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:28:06 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By governmentman: English electronics aren't too bad, they don't leak oil quite as often as English automobiles An Engineer buddy of mine always used to tell this one: How do you know if your car has English electrics? The headlight switch will read "off", "dim", and "flicker". |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:28:53 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kbi: I hope they're hunting those TOS-1 tanks at eevery opportunity Can you imagine being in a stuck convoy in a truck or car and theres a TOS unit behind and infront of you May those ukranian soldiers aim be true and they have all the luck destroying those units Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kbi: Originally Posted By BobRoberts: Originally Posted By outofbattery: TOS-1 is disabled by a Jav,second hit goes boom.
Well I guess the TOS is certainly not inert lol I hope they're hunting those TOS-1 tanks at eevery opportunity Can you imagine being in a stuck convoy in a truck or car and theres a TOS unit behind and infront of you May those ukranian soldiers aim be true and they have all the luck destroying those units Have they used those yet in Ukraine?! |
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Posted: 3/17/2022 10:28:59 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By atavistic: I'd bet that's a hard 'No' from Putin. We wants a group he controls. And the NATO gang ain't leaving Uncle Sugartits. Putin doesn’t get a vote in this. |
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