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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:18:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4thbreak:
Can we just pause for a second and acknowledge that Vitali FUCKING Klitschko is the mayor? Awesome |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:18:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GlockZen:
Lets hope its true. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:18:33 AM EDT
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Pretty sure that was a distant explosion on the live stream. Daylight....so it begins
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:18:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Radio_Free_ARFCOM]
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:18:48 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:19:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG Dallas is doing the same. 
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:19:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:20:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Lots of Ukrainian immigrants live in Cincinnati and the general Ohio area. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dillydilly: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG Lots of Ukrainian immigrants live in Cincinnati and the general Ohio area. I knew we had some sizable Russian population areas but not Ukranian. Then again, I try to avoid the city proper as much as possible. 
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:20:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jkitchen: Besides the nukes I'm really overestimated Russia after seeing this. The US would have them beat in a couple weeks at most. I think after seeing this, in a conventional war the US would absolutely rape the Russians. Just the F-22 and F-35 alone along with our intelligence gathering capabilities would damn near win the war alone. All of those tanks and IFVs are threatening if you don’t have much of an Air Force. With air superiority gained, they all become targets. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:20:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Originally Posted By cpermd: Are these numbers correct? NATO has 4.5 million troops vs 850,000 Russians NATO has over 1 billion population vs 144 million Russia NATO spends over $1 trillion per year on defense vs $62 billion for Russia NATO has a GDP of over $44 trillion vs $1.4 trillion Russia Russia's economy is smaller than Canada's $1.6 trillion NATO and Russia both have nukes Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. Russia isn't in a strong position. Population size dwindling rapidly, overall economy numbers not so good. Putin needs a quick victory because he cannot afford a long war. However, I don't think that Ukraine can either. As far as NATO jumping in, this will likely take a very long time, like the last time they intervened (Yugoslavia?), but only after the whole world put enough pressure. People were dying in droves, but they did not care. Also, how did Putin's "adventures" in Georgia play out? No one wants accountability. It's a CYA, grandstanding and posturing kabuki theater. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:20:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Pumpthosenumbersup.gif Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By GlockZen:
Lets hope its true. If they're really heading into Kiev, where a whole bunch of civilians were just given rifles, I'm sure the blood will flow soon enough. Now, the question is, if they start taking potshots from locals, how heavy handed do the Russians get in retaliation? |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:20:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By realwar: This is apparently the jet of the ace Ukraine pilot nicknamed "The Ghost of Kyiv" who downed SIX Russian aircraft during the first day of fighting.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qSjbr6qhGPAhttps://preview.redd.it/o8op4t01mvj81.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=c122974fec24735f70c89eca6f66dc925377ac3b Video The Liberation of Gracemeria starting playing in my head when I watched that and I actually got a little choked up 
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:20:55 AM EDT
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So when will Fo dog and or Fo rooster start up? It’s not real till one of them sounds off.
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:21:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: Dallas did that too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/D8F73367-543A-407F-BAE9-012BAF73D530_jpe-2292303.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG Dallas did that too. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/327183/D8F73367-543A-407F-BAE9-012BAF73D530_jpe-2292303.JPG Very cool! A much more impressive cityscape.
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:21:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feetpiece: I bet more people get shot tonight in Ohio than Ukraine Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By feetpiece: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: Being from Cincinnati, got to have a little hometown pride when I can. Genuinely didn't know our sister city was Kharkiv until now. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/102941/photo_2022-02-24_22-57-55_jpg-2292299.JPG I bet more people get shot tonight in Ohio than Ukraine Not going to bet against that.
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:21:46 AM EDT
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Remember when we were all talking about how long it would take Russia to get to Kyiv and it's not happening, well that was 2 days ago.
Feels like a long time, but it's shocking how fast Russia has pulled this off. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:22:33 AM EDT
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redandblackattack (@redanblacattack) February 25, 2022 |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:22:37 AM EDT
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"The Ghost of Kyiv" is going to be a bigger legend than the infamous Colonel Toom of North Vietnam's Air Force. He supposedly had 13 air to air victories over U.S. pilots, but was eventually shot down and killed by Duke Cunningham and Willie Driscoll on May 10, 1972. Most people now think "Toom" never existed and was actually a combination of several other pilots, who were also skilled, but probably a lesser rank than a colonel. Mythical stories like these have seemed to exist within every war that ever been fought. I think people have some sort of need to believe things like these, real or not. And I admit, it is a compelling story.
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:23:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: I knew we had some sizable Russian population areas but not Ukranian. Then again, I try to avoid the city proper as much as possible. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:23:34 AM EDT
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Fo Crows
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:24:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GlockZen: SWIFT cuts Russia out of the ability to transact in the international banking system. The impact would be felt at the business level, it would crush their GDP hard. We did this to Iran. Iran didn't have China backing them up. Russia can survive a LONG time with the support of Russia. If we sanction China, then we screw ourselves. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:24:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Naporter: If they're really heading into Kiev, where a whole bunch of civilians were just given rifles, I'm sure the blood will flow soon enough. Now, the question is, if they start taking potshots from locals, how heavy handed do the Russians get in retaliation? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Naporter: Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By GlockZen:
Lets hope its true. If they're really heading into Kiev, where a whole bunch of civilians were just given rifles, I'm sure the blood will flow soon enough. Now, the question is, if they start taking potshots from locals, how heavy handed do the Russians get in retaliation? Cannot imagine being a local without any proper training in high stress situations. Mag changes for a guy with average training becomes another beast when you have rounds overhead. Bless every one of them! |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:24:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. Germany: 266 active tanks France: 222 active tanks UK: 227 active tanks USA: 2,500 Russia: 2,800 So it's not that NATO is weak per se, but that the Europeans have neglected to have any significant ground component that could challenge an invasion like Putin is doing in Ukraine. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:25:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Remember when we were all talking about how long it would take Russia to get to Kyiv and it's not happening, well that was 2 days ago. Feels like a long time, but it's shocking how fast Russia has pulled this off. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:25:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By armoredsaint: Why is the lights in the center of Kyiv still on, wouldn't you turn it off to make it harder for the enemy Well I guess it would also make it easier to shoot Russians |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:25:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GlockZen:
Lets hope its true. 
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:25:32 AM EDT
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Interesting interview with a Ukrainian pastor:https://www.facebook.com/1170390209/videos/474112294351685/
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:25:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Remember when we were all talking about how long it would take Russia to get to Kyiv and it's not happening, well that was 2 days ago. Feels like a long time, but it's shocking how fast Russia has pulled this off. Depends how you look at it. I'm shocked they aren't already there given what we know was sitting on the border weeks ago. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:26:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Action45: Can we just pause for a second and acknowledge that Vitali FUCKING Klitschko is the mayor? Awesome
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:26:26 AM EDT
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Arty incomming
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:27:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Naporter: If they're really heading into Kiev, where a whole bunch of civilians were just given rifles, I'm sure the blood will flow soon enough. Now, the question is, if they start taking potshots from locals, how heavy handed do the Russians get in retaliation? I bet there is a fuck ton of IED's waiting. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:27:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat. Is. AWESOME! 
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:27:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jkitchen: Besides the nukes I'm really overestimated Russia after seeing this. The US would have them beat in a couple weeks at most. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jkitchen: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. Besides the nukes I'm really overestimated Russia after seeing this. The US would have them beat in a couple weeks at most. Several other invaders (Napoleon and Hitler come to mind) also thought the same. No one wins a nuclear war, hence no one started one yet. So, conventional war, I'd be very cautious about "easy victory" prognostics. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:28:17 AM EDT
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So ghost is now a real ghost?
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:28:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Kuhndog: So when will Fo dog and or Fo rooster start up? It’s not real till one of them sounds off. All I hear in the live video feeds are Fo Crows. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:28:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTAC: Pretty sure that was a distant explosion on the live stream. Daylight....so it begins Sounded like a few 8:26 - 8:27 pst Sometimes livestreams like that create ominous sounding audio though, but it's just random noises. *Experience: week of watching that volcano live stream. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:28:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Parma has a huge Ukrainian population Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By trapsh00ter99: Originally Posted By Ryan_Ruck: I knew we had some sizable Russian population areas but not Ukranian. Then again, I try to avoid the city proper as much as possible. The things you learn!
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:29:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By unforgiventoo: All I hear in the live video feeds are Fo Crows. 
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:29:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rossi: Several other invaders (Napoleon and Hitler come to mind) also thought the same. No one wins a nuclear war, hence no one started one yet. So, conventional war, I'd be very cautious about "easy victory" prognostics. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rossi: Originally Posted By jkitchen: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. Besides the nukes I'm really overestimated Russia after seeing this. The US would have them beat in a couple weeks at most. Several other invaders (Napoleon and Hitler come to mind) also thought the same. No one wins a nuclear war, hence no one started one yet. So, conventional war, I'd be very cautious about "easy victory" prognostics. The "easy victory over the Russians" mistake has been repeated over and over throughout history. Russia is still there. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:29:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: The problem is a lack of heavy divisions due to everyone deciding that the Russians would never do something like this, and we should turn every army into COIN. Germany: 266 active tanks France: 222 active tanks UK: 227 active tanks USA: 2,500 Russia: 2,800 So it's not that NATO is weak per se, but that the Europeans have neglected to have any significant ground component that could challenge an invasion like Putin is doing in Ukraine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. Germany: 266 active tanks France: 222 active tanks UK: 227 active tanks USA: 2,500 Russia: 2,800 So it's not that NATO is weak per se, but that the Europeans have neglected to have any significant ground component that could challenge an invasion like Putin is doing in Ukraine. 'Member the Peace Dividend? I 'member...
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:31:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Remember when we were all talking about how long it would take Russia to get to Kyiv and it's not happening, well that was 2 days ago. Feels like a long time, but it's shocking how fast Russia has pulled this off. Indeed. The Ukrainians in general didn't take the open source intel and likely classified intel given to them seriously. As an early poster said.. Ukrainians are a passive people. Seems like he's generally correct. Mobilized way too late and didn't redeploy their fielded forces where it made sense. I thought by now we'd see more Javelins, NLAWS, and Stingers used too
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:31:21 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: The problem is a lack of heavy divisions due to everyone deciding that the Russians would never do something like this, and we should turn every army into COIN. Germany: 266 active tanks France: 222 active tanks UK: 227 active tanks USA: 2,500 Russia: 2,800 So it's not that NATO is weak per se, but that the Europeans have neglected to have any significant ground component that could challenge an invasion like Putin is doing in Ukraine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By happycynic: Originally Posted By BerettaGuy: Thanks for posting this. Most on ARF love to keep saying how NATO is weak and Europe is weak when many of the top defense companies are in Europe: BAE, Airbus, Thales, Rheinmetall, Dassault, Naval Group, Beretta Holding Group, Rolls Royce, Bofors/SAAB (Sweden, not a NATO country but Europe), etc. plus colossal U.S. defense companies: General Dynamics, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, etc.. But, people here think that all of Russia's military hardware cannot be challenged by the rest of the world - BULL F-ING SHIT. Work in the defense industry and you will see who has the best stuff. NATO's population is about 950 million so yes very close to 1 billion. Canada's GDP is actually 2.2 trillion even it blows past Russia. We are watching the ONLY way Russia knows how to be great - act like a fucking mafia thug and gutter trash inner city robber. Germany: 266 active tanks France: 222 active tanks UK: 227 active tanks USA: 2,500 Russia: 2,800 So it's not that NATO is weak per se, but that the Europeans have neglected to have any significant ground component that could challenge an invasion like Putin is doing in Ukraine. The Russian performance is so lackluster so far that this event could be used to argue for cuts in military spending. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:31:30 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:32:03 AM EDT
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With all of the cell phones I am surprised we are not seeing more footage.
With tanks and APC rolling in I would think we would be seeing some burning after getting hit with the javelins we supplied. FOX News just pissed me off big time. Shannon Bream is someone that I like but Bret Beir (sp) is a super douche. They were just making a joke about how Bill Hemmer does the board better. FYI the board is basically an electronic board that shows where Russia is attacking. That they would think this is funny is disgusting. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:32:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thesilvercord:
Reports are that I have a 12” penis….AROUND. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:32:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SheltiePimp: Remember when we were all talking about how long it would take Russia to get to Kyiv and it's not happening, well that was 2 days ago. Feels like a long time, but it's shocking how fast Russia has pulled this off. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:33:08 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:33:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By M-1975:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMY4fFlXMAApFH1?format=jpg&name=small Many sunflowers were planted today. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:34:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CTM1: With all of the cell phones I am surprised we are not seeing more footage. With tanks and APC rolling in I would think we would be seeing some burning after getting hit with the javelins we supplied. FOX News just pissed me off big time. Shannon Bream is someone that I like but Bret Beir (sp) is a super douche. They were just making a joke about how Bill Hemmer does the board better. FYI the board is basically an electronic board that shows where Russia is attacking. That they would think this is funny is disgusting. |
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Posted: 2/25/2022 12:34:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Veccio: I don't think so. For the amount of troops Russia committed and the fact they had Ukraine surrounded on 3 sides with 6 months of prep work, so far it's looking like a bunch of Russian buffoonery. It’s only Day 1. There’s 150K troops, not all of which have advanced. |
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