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Link Posted: 8/24/2024 10:52:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Snozberry] [#1]
Yeah, gov service isnt much better. Ive resolved that if it comes up again and youre going to reduce me to my ancestory, that im going to point out what a shit hole africa has been, is now and how no social or technological achievements have climbed out of there in thousands of years.

I can play with the hispanics too. Muh white privilage? What has your history of blood sacrifice done for the world? Hispanic achievements,  begin! I'll wait.

But muh white conquest! Yep. Your culture had millenia to prove itself as a society and show itself worthy to take the spotlight on the world stage. You literally would not be here in this cush job without muh white privilage.

Tired of it.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 10:54:40 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Sebastian_MacMaine:

Oh look, another one.  "Don't bother voting, we've already lost, the fix is in."

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Oh
The unibomber

You do realize the  idea of the device you are texting on is why he flipped out?

Y’all are tiring though

Good luck with all the liberal  converts

I’m sure they are gonna help you save the USA

Link Posted: 8/24/2024 11:02:02 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ironknife:


Oh
The unibomber

You do realize the  idea of the device you are texting on is why he flipped out?

Y’all are tiring though

Good luck with all the liberal  converts

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If you look at the detail of the polls and the weighting of the registered voters its likely, the Republicans will win and win well.  The most important thing is to get out and vote and not be silenced.  Its simple the Harris - Biden record is terrible and Harris owns it.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 11:03:08 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By GroundhogOZ:



I've always considered him a fringe player with a chequered past - but that speech was excellent, on point, accurate and it will come at a terrible cost for him personally.  That came from somewhere deep within him and I think it will resonate with a lot of people.  Every Democrat should read it and then hang their heads in shame at the destruction they have caused.
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Originally Posted By GroundhogOZ:
Originally Posted By 999monkeys:


I like a lot of what he says, and really want to like him.  

He may actually be the best of the lot, setting aside some of his wackadoodle conspiracy theories.  Not that it matters, he won’t be elected.



I've always considered him a fringe player with a chequered past - but that speech was excellent, on point, accurate and it will come at a terrible cost for him personally.  That came from somewhere deep within him and I think it will resonate with a lot of people.  Every Democrat should read it and then hang their heads in shame at the destruction they have caused.


As much as it pains me to admit it, I’ve been told since I was an infant that the whole Kennedy family was shite.  While I like to think of myself as a rational person, that kind of conditioning is hard to overcome.
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 11:19:46 PM EDT
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Liberals only change their thinking when they suddenly realize that there are those further to the left of themselves and those people hate them as much as they hate far righters.  I.E. the leftist agenda has to personally affect them negatively.  


When they realize it they REALLY realize it and I think it’s hilarious (mainly because I have very very little sympathy for liberals).
Link Posted: 8/24/2024 11:52:13 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By itchydingdong:
Liberals only change their thinking when they suddenly realize that there are those further to the left of themselves and those people hate them as much as they hate far righters.  I.E. the leftist agenda has to personally affect them negatively.  


When they realize it they REALLY realize it and I think it’s hilarious (mainly because I have very very little sympathy for liberals).
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In my experience, the most common shift is when people start paying taxes.  There are conservatives who were literally hippies in the 60s.  They mostly became conservative when they got a job and started paying taxes.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 12:31:09 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Rugerlvr:
I knew I was inviting replies like this. I don't know for sure, but it's the same sentiment as the never-trumpers here who because he doesn't agree with them 100% are willing to let the democrats turn this country into a Maoist hellhole.

We will simply not survive cutting off our nose to spite our face. I extend my hand to anyone willing to change.
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This.  I'm slightly hopeful for a friend of mine who was a moderate Democrat;  his kids got public-schooled into full-blown communism and he's horrified by it.  His vote isn't going to matter this year anyway (west coast blue state) but at least he's figured out that the Democrats are psychopaths.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 12:57:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tsg68:
Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over thirty who is not a conservative has no brains.

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I must been born a psychopath.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 1:03:52 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By buck19delta:



He was fine with it when he thought he was going to be a cherished member up in middle management, he’s only got a problem now because he’s realized there is no special place of power /comfort in it for him . Like you said, before he feared republicans, now he’s just “ afraid “. He fucking should be. His tribe hates his guts for being a straight white guy, and he can’t fit comfortably into our tribe due to his fucked up, die hard liberal beliefs.

Which liberal ideals did he suddenly become vehemently against ?  That’s what I want to hear, I don’t think he’s chanced his opinions on any of the usual things, just pissed off / horrified to suddenly realize his god thinks he’s a disposable oppressor, vs indispensable, cheer leader, mentor.


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Yea, This guy sounds like a Fucking Super-Prick.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 1:24:37 AM EDT
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all these new terms; gaslighting, redpilling, several others I don't recall right now.   No idea what they mean.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 2:34:23 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jodan1776:
all these new terms; gaslighting, redpilling, several others I don't recall right now.   No idea what they mean.
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... and on the flipside, "Papers please" and "sellout" are now obscure to people.

Gaslighting:

It comes from an old movie/play/etc. Evil dude messes with the gaslamps in his house to convince his wife she's nuts. It's used in reference to someone manipulating you to mess with your head.

(you can now watch the movie that it came from on youtube)

Experience the origins of psychological manipulation : Gaslight (1940) Colorized Version


Redpilling
It's a reference to a scene in the 1999 movie the matrix.

The Matrix - Blue Pill or Red Pill


Being redpilled is when you get your eyes opened to the truth that you hadn't been able to see before.  Blue pill is when you reject the truth and believe in the lie.  People have invented other versions of this verbally. Whitepill, when someone is lifted up and made positive and optimistic.  Blackpill is nihilistic and everything sucks and we can't win. People will sometimes try and say that the truth is depressing and nihilistic and you can't win. This would be called trying to pass a blackpill off as a red pill.

It's all stuff you've known. People just invent different ways to say it.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 3:08:04 AM EDT
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The Rasmussen Poll released 2 days ago has Trump up by +3.  If you look at this time in previous cycles when the Dems have won they are usually up by +4.  Also keep in mind most of the polls are up to +5 Dem by type of registered voter.  In effect they are attempting to push poll.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 4:33:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear:
As an aspiring novelist, this is the truth.

I signed up for a Sci-Fi/ Fantasy conference, one of the sessions is called De-colonizing Magic in Fantasy Writing.

I haven't had that session yet but from the title I imagine that's an hour of my life I will have wasted and won't get back.

And dear God some of the questions from the other attendees.

Every question about "how do you identify or know someone or something is a monster" came from a white woman.

They literally didn't know what a monster was and who or what could be one. One actually asked if a person could be a monster.

By the end of that session I needed a drink.
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@BigGrumpyBear you should have signed up for BasedCon.  I think they already sold out for the year, but you could contact the organizer to see if they have space for walk-ins.

https://basedcon.com/

They have a YouTube channel;  a bunch of last year's panels were uploaded to it.  There was a good one by Travis Corcoran on how to plot out a novel that you can be proud of;  the full slides were distributed somewhere for that one, not sure about the video.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 4:41:54 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Ironknife:
Oh
The unibomber

You do realize the  idea of the device you are texting on is why he flipped out?

Y’all are tiring though

Good luck with all the liberal  converts

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Link Posted: 8/25/2024 5:43:41 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By 1cheapshot:
We’ll take all we can get. If my commie daughter turned around, my jaw would be on the floor. I don’t see that happening. The hate is strong in that one. 🙁
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I know that feeling, and it sucks. I love my middle daughter no matter what, but she hates me because of the Marxist indoctrination, and has alienated her two sisters as well. I pray that will change one day, but I’m not very hopeful.

I find myself absolutely hating the left more and more every day because of this.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 5:57:34 AM EDT
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As much as it pains me to admit it, I’ve been told since I was an infant that the whole Kennedy family was shite.  While I like to think of myself as a rational person, that kind of conditioning is hard to overcome.
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Most were and still are.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 6:46:02 AM EDT
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Yes, they are. But we aren't at a point where it matters because their voice will be stolen too by the Man That Counts The Vote.


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This is the only country in history where a 3 month famine would increase lifespan.

Probably cut diabetes rates.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 6:48:01 AM EDT
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I'm glad your friendship survived.  Many haven't during this time.  Sounds like both of you valued your friendship over politics and that's the way it should be.

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Link Posted: 8/25/2024 6:56:30 AM EDT
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Yeah. I wouldn't count on it.

I would fully count on Harris winning

The Republican or MAGA brand seems increasingly focused on niche "very online" takes.  

The "libs of TikTok" mid term strategy backfired twice. Republicans are tripling down.  

I'm just the weatherman on this. Don't shoot the messenger.  The energy just doesn't feel 2016 or 2020.

Link Posted: 8/25/2024 6:59:30 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By GroundhogOZ:
The Rasmussen Poll released 2 days ago has Trump up by +3.  If you look at this time in previous cycles when the Dems have won they are usually up by +4.  Also keep in mind most of the polls are up to +5 Dem by type of registered voter.  In effect they are attempting to push poll.
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Rasmussen Polls are odd. They are paid for as ad products, the last being for the book "laptop from hell".

Rasmussen puts out extremely pro Republican polls up (to drive click through on ads fora maga anudience) until the last day, then puts out more accurate polls the week of; and subsequently claimed they were close!

works well.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 7:07:02 AM EDT
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OP watch your cornhole. Sounds like you are getting buttered up. Has he been pushing you to go on any weekend fishing trips?
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 7:10:04 AM EDT
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The seductive tug of cognitive dissonance is really strong for white, upper middle class, educated liberal mothers and left wing sons...
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Added some amplification.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 7:10:35 AM EDT
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I know a guy that was recently redpilled this year. Went to school with him.

He was hard-core lefty. Went to BLM rallies and pride parades. Felt the left was on the side of moral superiority.

He made a complete 180. He's voting for Trump and changed his opinion on practically everything.

He kept running into people at these events that labeled him as evil because of his sexual orientation, gender and skin color. They kept calling him privelaged even though his financial situation isn't great. They pushed him away.

Same as OP the man hating really wore on him over time. I think this is a driving factor for a lot the guys that are switching over.

This dude was going to women's rights rallies, and getting lectured on how evil he was because of his gender, by the people he was trying to support.

I don't know how they couldn't turn people over time.

So I will continue to disagree that their aren't people on the fence. I've seen it happen.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 7:19:45 AM EDT
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Common sense enters people in mysterious ways.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 7:43:07 AM EDT
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This. Exactly this. He’s still voting for Kamala and the Democrat agenda. He may confide in you and voice his frustrations but he will keep doing and voting for the same dumb shit.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 9:08:17 AM EDT
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Like I’ve said before, people of inherent ration capabilities have their triggers.

The real test comes when that trigger confronts their world view & they can accept that almost everything they thought, or believed, was a complete lie.

That is, often times, a precipice far too wide. So they swallow the lie deeper down & become emotionally irrational.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 9:16:21 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By CzechMate5:

Probably true during Winston’s day

Now? Where’s the heart for being a democrat?
Infanticide?
Wrecking women’s sports?
Child trafficking/open borders?
High inflation?
No right to defend yourself?
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The left are in that phase of revolution where it all has to be torn down and made terrible.  The next step is a strong man savior comes around to solve all of the problems. (the dictator).

Link Posted: 8/25/2024 9:20:56 AM EDT
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I used to believe there needed to be a balance of left and right, maybe there still needs to be. I believed the right took  care of the country as an institution and the left took care of it as a people. The problem is everything has moved too far to the left, and left no longer what it used to be. And the real problem right now is that the left has us on a collision path with hard times, and a full blown police state. On one hand I want Trump to win and hopefully break their backs, but on the other I suspect the hard times are unavoidable and he will take the blame for it. On the other hand, if the dems win the hard times are absolutely unavoidable and they will use it to consolidate power and we'll never have another honest election. Scary times.
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The main problem here is that it was never the US government’s job to take care of you. That is a pathway of, & too, control.

So again, it’s still their fault & all those that went along with it.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 9:43:50 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By ztug:
In 2016 when my son was a freshman in college he was pro Bernie. So pretty liberal, he liked weed. But then he saw how poorly the Democrats treated Bernie, how crooked they were. And he ended up being so turned off by the Democrats that he voted for Trump and is now a reliable Republican who watches Fox News. There's an old saying if you're not a liberal when you're young you have no heart if you're not a conservative when you're older you have no brain. The switch happens at different ages for different people. Look at Tulsi gabbard and now RFK Jr. They've seen the dirty filthy scummy part of The Democrat party.
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The corruption and destruction of the human spirit has been endemic and apparent in socialism since the beginning.  Time will tell if Tulsi and RFK jr. have turned a page, or just think they can do it right next time. I still don’t want either in a position they can affect policy, at the present time.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 9:49:27 AM EDT
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OP, one of your oldest friends is a hardcore liberal?

I’m shocked you haven’t added him to your ignore list.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 9:50:00 AM EDT
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Just be wary. As these may not be core values. Only time will tell.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 9:52:24 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By Jayne_Cobb:
Because Democrats are willing to put in the groundwork and start at the bottom. They are nothing if not dedicated to their ideals, and they didn't just randomly jump to federal offices without decades of menial local grunt work.

Republicans can't even be bothered to show up to school board meetings.
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You spelled communists wrong.

Not that Republicans aren't bought and paid for by corporations and big business. It's just republicans aren't actively communist.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 10:03:36 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By buck19delta:


His beliefs didn’t change, he didn’t realize his ideas were wrong or fucked up, he’s  just mad he lost his position on the diversity faculty, and got demoted to janitor, and realized they hate his liberal guts as much as our maga guts.  
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Originally Posted By buck19delta:
Ops buddy is shocked he’s getting booted out of the lifeboat by the very people he helped sink the big USS USA ship for.

  buddy. He helped sink the USA, he gets no sympathy now that he discovered he’s stuck living the       maga lifestyle with ready of us.

Yeah, how dare he realize he was wrong and start to make meaningful change!

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His beliefs didn’t change, he didn’t realize his ideas were wrong or fucked up, he’s  just mad he lost his position on the diversity faculty, and got demoted to janitor, and realized they hate his liberal guts as much as our maga guts.  


Yep , he is just salty they threw him under the bus he helped build. He literally built the instruments of his own destruction. Pathetic lol.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 10:16:28 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By chronium76:


Yep , he is just salty they threw him under the bus he helped build. He literally built the instruments of his own destruction. Pathetic lol.
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Originally Posted By buck19delta:
Originally Posted By FlashMan-7k:
Originally Posted By buck19delta:
Ops buddy is shocked he’s getting booted out of the lifeboat by the very people he helped sink the big USS USA ship for.

  buddy. He helped sink the USA, he gets no sympathy now that he discovered he’s stuck living the       maga lifestyle with ready of us.

Yeah, how dare he realize he was wrong and start to make meaningful change!

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His beliefs didn’t change, he didn’t realize his ideas were wrong or fucked up, he’s  just mad he lost his position on the diversity faculty, and got demoted to janitor, and realized they hate his liberal guts as much as our maga guts.  


Yep , he is just salty they threw him under the bus he helped build. He literally built the instruments of his own destruction. Pathetic lol.



And had the poor downtrodden minorities and women, kept kissing his white author butt, telling him how awesome he was for supporting them, allowing him to mentor them and respect his lofty position, he would still be on the liberal bus. He’s just pissy they don’t understand he’s ONE OF THEM !   And trying to steal his job / position.   Ironic,since that’s what he’s been supporting…. Giving away valuable things without requiring hard work / success in return, and making race / diversity, a resume block towards skills / achievements.

Pathetic.


Hopefully ops little friend grows out of his emotional dumpster fire, society destroying politics, I’m just not convinced he’s going ops way for the right reasons. Current society you only have three choices really.

Vote democrat….and support every toxic stupid thing they support…….deviate / complain and they hate your guts…

Vote Republican…and support every toxic stupid thing they support……expect results while they fuck you.  They hate your guts.

Don’t vote.


Until people realize this, stop playing these stupid 2 party, WWF political theatre bullshit, we can’t start throwing them all out and starting over with new people under new rules.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 10:28:29 AM EDT
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No

He is mad about the world he voted for.  He cooperated and used his emotions and weak NPC mind to get him where he is.

He made this bed, let him sleep in it.  He is not family.  This sounds like a good way to get Red flagged and swatted.  

At no point should you provide any information on weapons at all. Or even socialize with this person at all. The Covid crisis showed us all where these people want us.  

Do what you want, these people are beyond forgiveness.  The state of country is because of these worthless people, and there is no reason for sympathy .
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Ever heard of a guy named Mike Vanderboegh?
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Originally Posted By Sebastian_MacMaine:


@BigGrumpyBear you should have signed up for BasedCon.  I think they already sold out for the year, but you could contact the organizer to see if they have space for walk-ins.

https://basedcon.com/

They have a YouTube channel;  a bunch of last year's panels were uploaded to it.  There was a good one by Travis Corcoran on how to plot out a novel that you can be proud of;  the full slides were distributed somewhere for that one, not sure about the video.
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear:
As an aspiring novelist, this is the truth.

I signed up for a Sci-Fi/ Fantasy conference, one of the sessions is called De-colonizing Magic in Fantasy Writing.

I haven't had that session yet but from the title I imagine that's an hour of my life I will have wasted and won't get back.

And dear God some of the questions from the other attendees.

Every question about "how do you identify or know someone or something is a monster" came from a white woman.

They literally didn't know what a monster was and who or what could be one. One actually asked if a person could be a monster.

By the end of that session I needed a drink.


@BigGrumpyBear you should have signed up for BasedCon.  I think they already sold out for the year, but you could contact the organizer to see if they have space for walk-ins.

https://basedcon.com/

They have a YouTube channel;  a bunch of last year's panels were uploaded to it.  There was a good one by Travis Corcoran on how to plot out a novel that you can be proud of;  the full slides were distributed somewhere for that one, not sure about the video.


@Sebastian_MacMaine

Thank you! I'll check them out.
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Originally Posted By Rugerlvr:

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Things are changing.
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Don't assume things are changing for the better.  Your buddy was happily on board the id politics hate train for most of his adult life until it overtly targeted him, and even then how long did he make excuses and apologies?.   It is extremely unlikely that he learned the correct lesson at all, and far more likely he's a coward that will turn on you at his first opportunity.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 10:34:31 AM EDT
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Welcome him to the Light. He will evolve to even more enlightenment in time. Don’t force it. He doesn’t have to love Trump. He is not all that likable except to those kool aid drinkers. It is important to know Trump is the better choice to preserve our freedom. The time for multiple choice is past. The presidential choice is good or evil. Satan owns the fence line. As a Christian we follow God not man. It is that simple.
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Don't assume things are changing for the better.  Your buddy was happily on board the id politics hate train for most of his adult life until it overtly targeted him, and even then how long did he make excuses and apologies?.   It is extremely unlikely that he learned the correct lesson at all, and far more likely he's a coward that will turn on you at his first opportunity.
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This is just getting insulting now.
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This is just getting insulting now.
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Originally Posted By TheAmaazingCarl:



Don't assume things are changing for the better.  Your buddy was happily on board the id politics hate train for most of his adult life until it overtly targeted him, and even then how long did he make excuses and apologies?.   It is extremely unlikely that he learned the correct lesson at all, and far more likely he's a coward that will turn on you at his first opportunity.


This is just getting insulting now.



Not meant to be an insult at all, but that is how things usually go.  Adults are only very rarely capable of making the type of profound changes you are hoping for, and most of the time what looks like sincere change is self serving.  Your friend made a living for decades wielding the exact kind of ID politics for personal and professional gain,... and now all the sudden he has seen the light?  Is it more like this is sincere change, or that he wants to dial it back to an era it wasn't targeting him?
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Originally Posted By TheAmaazingCarl:



Not meant to be an insult at all, but that is how things usually go.  Adults are only very rarely capable of making the type of profound changes you are hoping for, and most of the time what looks like sincere change is self serving.  Your friend made a living for decades wielding the exact kind of ID politics for personal and professional gain,... and now all the sudden he has seen the light?  Is it more like this is sincere change, or that he wants to dial it back to an era it wasn't targeting him?
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Originally Posted By Rugerlvr:
Originally Posted By TheAmaazingCarl:



Don't assume things are changing for the better.  Your buddy was happily on board the id politics hate train for most of his adult life until it overtly targeted him, and even then how long did he make excuses and apologies?.   It is extremely unlikely that he learned the correct lesson at all, and far more likely he's a coward that will turn on you at his first opportunity.


This is just getting insulting now.



Not meant to be an insult at all, but that is how things usually go.  Adults are only very rarely capable of making the type of profound changes you are hoping for, and most of the time what looks like sincere change is self serving.  Your friend made a living for decades wielding the exact kind of ID politics for personal and professional gain,... and now all the sudden he has seen the light?  Is it more like this is sincere change, or that he wants to dial it back to an era it wasn't targeting him?


You are correct.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 10:55:19 AM EDT
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Of my four siblings, one is a staunch Socialist. The rest of us are solid Christian Conservatives. He started a big debate when he tried to convince us how great Harris was. Every point I made and provided quotes or video of Her own positions were called lies, I challenged him to provide video or a record of her position. All he could do is claim everything was all lies with no evidence to back him up. He exploded when my normally very quiet sister, finally had enough. He exploded when she told him to knock off the Joseph Gobbles act and provide real facts or shut up. He has not spoken to us since and we are still laughing. Yes, we play hardball. No facts, no points.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 10:57:45 AM EDT
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Not meant to be an insult at all, but that is how things usually go.  Adults are only very rarely capable of making the type of profound changes you are hoping for, and most of the time what looks like sincere change is self serving.  Your friend made a living for decades wielding the exact kind of ID politics for personal and professional gain,... and now all the sudden he has seen the light?  Is it more like this is sincere change, or that he wants to dial it back to an era it wasn't targeting him?
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All of you are making assumptions about his character you can't possibly know enough to make. You're all speaking in general, and even though I've provided what I think is pretty compelling evidence, all I see are people not actually reading what I wrote, and trying to blackpill the situation.

It is insulting, and typical for this place. I'm sorry I shared. I'm going to back out of this thread now, and let you all circle jerk about how people can't change, people aren't deserving of forgiveness, and show just how fucked conservatives are by rejecting the #walkaway people.

Have fun being fucking miserable.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 11:00:04 AM EDT
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All of you are making assumptions about his character you can't possibly know enough to make. You're all speaking in general, and even though I've provided what I think is pretty compelling evidence, all I see are people not actually reading what I wrote, and trying to blackpill the situation.

It is insulting, and typical for this place. I'm sorry I shared.
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Originally Posted By TheAmaazingCarl:



Not meant to be an insult at all, but that is how things usually go.  Adults are only very rarely capable of making the type of profound changes you are hoping for, and most of the time what looks like sincere change is self serving.  Your friend made a living for decades wielding the exact kind of ID politics for personal and professional gain,... and now all the sudden he has seen the light?  Is it more like this is sincere change, or that he wants to dial it back to an era it wasn't targeting him?


All of you are making assumptions about his character you can't possibly know enough to make. You're all speaking in general, and even though I've provided what I think is pretty compelling evidence, all I see are people not actually reading what I wrote, and trying to blackpill the situation.

It is insulting, and typical for this place. I'm sorry I shared.



Sorry you had to go through this man.  But that's GD.  Everyone's a fucking expert on things they've never experienced.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 11:07:05 AM EDT
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OP, I wish you and your friend the best.  I really do, and I really hope he has really "changed".  It does sound promising indeed.  But, if you can see this from another's point of view, it does sound a little like he was bitten on the heel by the very dog he helped to raise, so to speak, and he is emotionally "retaliating" against it.  Whether or not it is truly a permanent change only time will tell.  Once again, good luck and God bless.
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He's not happy about that either.
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Originally Posted By Leisure_Shoot:
for every one of your friend, the democrats (and republicans) are importing 10 to replace him


He's not happy about that either.

It's a little late for that now.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 1:08:20 PM EDT
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Doing the Decolonizing Magic in Fantasy session now. Blue tinted hair, nose rings tats leading off with weepy stories of her grandmother and familial magical rites they performed at home that the church wouldn't approve of right after going to mass...

Yeah... going about like I expected.

ETA: Sorry guys, couldn't take anymore weepy eyed, tremulous voice familial stories from a person who couldn't look into the camera while talking. Honestly, her eyes flitted everywhere never staying on the camera for more than a split second.

I bailed and am going to do something productive like wash my eyes with bleach.

The comments on how these were lovely and amazing stories from the women participants made me eye roll so hard I now have a headache. The part where the pigeon landed on her grandmothers hand like a Mexican Snow White made me throw up in my mouth a little.
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 1:33:41 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By BigGrumpyBear:
Doing the Decolonizing Magic in Fantasy session now. Blue tinted hair, nose rings tats leading off with weepy stories of her grandmother and familial magical rites they performed at home that the church wouldn't approve of right after going to mass...

Yeah... going about like I expected.

ETA: Sorry guys, couldn't take anymore weepy eyed, tremulous voice familial stories from a person who couldn't look into the camera while talking. Honestly, her eyes flitted everywhere never staying on the camera for more than a split second.

I bailed and am going to do something productive like wash my eyes with bleach.

The comments on how these were lovely and amazing stories from the women participants made me eye roll so hard I now have a headache. The part where the pigeon landed on her grandmothers hand like a Mexican Snow White made me throw up in my mouth a little.
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That should become copy pasta😍
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 1:35:34 PM EDT
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Ever heard of a guy named Mike Vanderboegh?
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Didn’t he break the fast and furious thing out in the open

He had some kinda website if I remember
Link Posted: 8/25/2024 1:37:41 PM EDT
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Was out for a beer with some friends last week. One of my long time friends who has been pretty liberal his whole life was gone full MAGA. I though he was making a joke at first, but no he and his wife have left the dark side. I was shocked, never would have ever expected that from him.
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