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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:17:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could have small kids? Could have big kids? |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:18:01 AM EDT
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I looked for the battery to replace in my iron sights. Couldn't find one.
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:18:38 AM EDT
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I have a feeling like two or three people are going to be added to an ignore list from this thread.
If you read any variation of the word “narcissistic” that means you have to drink. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:19:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Could have big kids? Why do you people always forget about the medium sized kids? |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:20:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yep. Let someone else control the narrative. Teach your kids to be afraid and that firearms are bad. It’s fine. I 100% lock up all my guns when I'm not carrying them, I have kids, they know guns and shoot all the time. But having a unsecure firearm sitting around is irresponsible. Maybe its just my military trainnig. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:20:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You should notice that the dot is dead when you do your 3-5 practice draw/presentations every day. You are doing your 3-5 practice draw/presentations every day aren't you?  I was doing them prior to securing the pistol. That is being swapped now, and being done during the gear up phase, going forward. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:21:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What the heck does, 'full stop' mean? That's real retarded, sir. 
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:27:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why putting a red dot on pistol is ridiculous. Wtf for? Iron sights work all the time. Funny....I've personally witnessed more iron sights fail on pistols than red dots. At least with a red dot you have backup iron sights, when iron sights fail you have nothing.....unless you're a point shooting advocate...in which case you're already lost. OP.....I use New Years Day for annual maintenance on all my guns....I'm always off work and never have plans. Batteries get changed in every optic / light, guns that don't get shot often get wiped down and a light coat of oil...etc...etc. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:28:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny....I've personally witnessed more iron sights fail on pistols than red dots. At least with a red dot you have backup iron sights, when iron sights fail you have nothing.....unless you're a point shooting advocate...in which case you're already lost. OP.....I use New Years Day for annual maintenance on all my guns....I'm always off work and never have plans. Batteries get changed in every optic / light, guns that don't get shot often get wiped down and a light coat of oil...etc...etc. Yuuuup. Saw a front sight fly off a gun in a match last Sunday. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:29:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a feeling like two or three people are going to be added to an ignore list from this thread. If you read any variation of the word “narcissistic” that means you have to drink.  We could add the word "narrative" to the list but then we'd all be shit faced by lunch.....which may or may not be a good thing. 
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:30:42 AM EDT
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I check the fairly often. Normally always keep a spares in stock or pistol grip storage as well.
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:33:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: When my kids were small, all my guns were locked in the safe except my issued duty sidearm. I just took off my gunbelt when I got home and set it by the bed. My kids wouldn't have been able to get the gun out of the level 3 security holster it was in. Kids are ingenious. 
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:37:08 AM EDT
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All of my RDS have long battery lives, however they all get changed annually. Pick a date of significance and change them all on that day.
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:38:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why do you people always forget about the medium sized kids? 
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:40:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We could add the word "narrative" to the list but then we'd all be shit faced by lunch.....which may or may not be a good thing. Fuck yes. We need Bingo cards. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:41:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My 2 year old is smart. He's not smart enough to know the consequences of mishandling a loaded firearm. Expecting him to not be a curious toddler is how dumb parents end up with dead kids. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Could teach your small kids about firearms My 2 year old is smart. He's not smart enough to know the consequences of mishandling a loaded firearm. Expecting him to not be a curious toddler is how dumb parents end up with dead kids. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:42:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Funny....I've personally witnessed more iron sights fail on pistols than red dots. That’s because there are significantly more iron sights on pistols than red dots. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:43:47 AM EDT
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My Holosun 407c is supposed to go 40k hours. It makes it like 6 months! and most of that time its off with the shake awake feature. What a piece of shit.
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:47:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s because there are significantly more iron sights on pistols than red dots. And because they also fail. If someone was honestly concerned about reliability they would have a MRDS with BUIS to give a level of redundancy. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:47:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is why putting a red dot on pistol is ridiculous. Wtf for? Iron sights work all the time. I once was a pistol red dot Luddite. But I was shown the way. And the way is good. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:48:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Replace the battery on your birthday. Easy to remember. Cheap insurance. That is likely insufficient frequency for most pistol mounted RDS optics. Especially if you leave them on all the time. It's going to depend on your battery, your optic, and what power level you keep your optic at, but a proactive schedule of replacing the battery is a good idea. The hour numbers quoted by most optic manufacturers require settings that are often unusable in daylight. I tend to keep my red optics at about 1 or 2 settings below maximum, which means I will end up with a significantly shorter battery life. Every additional setting on an electronic optic is exponentially more battery drain. With the Acro P1, I replaced the battery in my carry gun monthly. With my P2 I'll probably replace the battery 3 times a year as I tend to carry it on setting 8 or 9. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:50:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Replace the battery on your birthday. Easy to remember. Cheap insurance. This |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:50:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have you not heard the famous Arfcom adage "get both"? The sights on my G19 are perfectly usable through the RMR. I once was a pistol red dot Luddite. But I was shown the way. And the way is good. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: This is why putting a red dot on pistol is ridiculous. Wtf for? Iron sights work all the time. I once was a pistol red dot Luddite. But I was shown the way. And the way is good. Not wanting a red dot on your handgun isn't being a luddite. You can admit that your eyes got worse and the red dot is the only way for you to sight something. No need to make up that last part, just admit it that it was because of your current eye condition. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:52:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I 100% lock up all my guns when I'm not carrying them, I have kids, they know guns and shoot all the time. But having a unsecure firearm sitting around is irresponsible. Maybe its just my military trainnig. Military also said you should be disarmed as an individual on a base |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:56:25 AM EDT
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Good god this thread went into the ditch with authority.
OP, replace the battery once a year. I do the first of the year, but lots of people use their birthday. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:57:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not wanting a red dot on your handgun isn't being a luddite. You can admit that your eyes got worse and the red dot is the only way for you to sight something. No need to make up that last part, just admit it that it was because of your current eye condition. Red dots are measurably better than irons.....sorry your iron sights lost. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 10:59:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Military also said you should be disarmed as an individual on a base Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I 100% lock up all my guns when I'm not carrying them, I have kids, they know guns and shoot all the time. But having a unsecure firearm sitting around is irresponsible. Maybe its just my military trainnig. Military also said you should be disarmed as an individual on a base Arguing that unsupervised 2 year old kids should be trusted with loaded firearms might be the dumbest hill I've seen anyone die on here.....congrats I guess. 
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Posted: 8/24/2022 11:00:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not wanting a red dot on your handgun isn't being a luddite. You can admit that your eyes got worse and the red dot is the only way for you to sight something. No need to make up that last part, just admit it that it was because of your current eye condition. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: This is why putting a red dot on pistol is ridiculous. Wtf for? Iron sights work all the time. I once was a pistol red dot Luddite. But I was shown the way. And the way is good. Not wanting a red dot on your handgun isn't being a luddite. You can admit that your eyes got worse and the red dot is the only way for you to sight something. No need to make up that last part, just admit it that it was because of your current eye condition. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 11:11:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not wanting a red dot on your handgun isn't being a luddite. You can admit that your eyes got worse and the red dot is the only way for you to sight something. No need to make up that last part, just admit it that it was because of your current eye condition. https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/I-ll-make-my-own-Staccato-but-better-With-blackjack-and-hookers-/16-206013/ |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 11:13:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Eye sight has nothing to do with it. I'm one of Arf's hated group, the millennials. My vision is still great. There's millennials who have bad eyes too. The only thing that this has to do with is user preferences. You prefer it, I do not. Instead of trying to be edgy we instead accept each other's preferences without trying to eat our own? That would be great. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 11:16:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Also, see this thread. https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/I-ll-make-my-own-Staccato-but-better-With-blackjack-and-hookers-/16-206013/ Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not wanting a red dot on your handgun isn't being a luddite. You can admit that your eyes got worse and the red dot is the only way for you to sight something. No need to make up that last part, just admit it that it was because of your current eye condition. https://www.ar15.com/forums/handguns/I-ll-make-my-own-Staccato-but-better-With-blackjack-and-hookers-/16-206013/ Tl;Dr The way forward is training. The way backwards is arguing until all you hear is your words out of our mouths. Grip Rotate. Present Shoot. That's what you should be concerning yourself about, not arguing with the others if they don't have a red dot or not on their EDC. Aren't we all on the same team here? |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 11:21:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's millennials who have bad eyes too. The only thing that this has to do with is user preferences. You prefer it, I do not. Instead of trying to be edgy we instead accept each other's preferences without trying to eat our own? That would be great. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Eye sight has nothing to do with it. I'm one of Arf's hated group, the millennials. My vision is still great. There's millennials who have bad eyes too. The only thing that this has to do with is user preferences. You prefer it, I do not. Instead of trying to be edgy we instead accept each other's preferences without trying to eat our own? That would be great. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 11:22:05 AM EDT
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Check every morning. All you need to do is look at your sight and see the dot. Replace battery every 6 months regardless. They are cheap.
To all those who say irons won’t fail, LOL. These are the same people who don’t know if their sights are even zeroed. Irons can and do shift. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 11:28:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s because there are significantly more iron sights on pistols than red dots. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Funny....I've personally witnessed more iron sights fail on pistols than red dots. That’s because there are significantly more iron sights on pistols than red dots. In classes I've taken in the last 2 years I'd say it's been pretty close to 50/50 irons to red dots. A class last month had 8 shooters....all but 3 had red dots. I honestly don't care what people use on their guns but the "irons never fail" crowd is just being willfully ignorant, or doesn't spend enough time on the range. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 11:29:29 AM EDT
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I don't care if you use a red dot or not, I personally dont have one on my carry guns now. However I don't kid myself, I don't doubt they are better for aquiring targets and accuracy in the real world where threats arent stationary targets. In fact I am going to go get a P365 and throw a red dot on there in the next few days because I have put it off too long. The guns and optics are now at a size that can easily be carried and concealed and it is time for me to change my ways.
There have been a number of times when it comes to firearms I had to realize I was being an obstinate ass about change. One was optics on rifles. I was a grunt fresh out of the Corps and I knew I could shoot irons just fine. then I shot a red dot on a rifle and realized I was indeed being ignorant. since that epiphany I have shot number of pistol competitions with mixed classes and can't dismiss the times and accuracy of those shooting a class that allows optics. Also yes, you should change your batteries as well take them out of the optics in the safe that you dont use. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 12:34:34 PM EDT
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Change mine on July 4th each year, because Freedom.
I try to only use Japanese manufactured lithium batteries. Panasonic industrial seems to be good. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 12:36:36 PM EDT
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Once a year
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Posted: 8/24/2022 12:50:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes I prefer it, because it's better for many reasons. The one getting all defensive in here is you. Feel free to shoot however you want. I am glad that you have something to prefer, better than being told to prefer what we never needed. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 12:51:59 PM EDT
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The AA on my EOTech started leaking. Now I have to clean off all the contacts and hope I can restore it
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Posted: 8/24/2022 12:59:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't care if you use a red dot or not, I personally dont have one on my carry guns now. However I don't kid myself, I don't doubt they are better for aquiring targets and accuracy in the real world where threats arent stationary targets. In fact I am going to go get a P365 and throw a red dot on there in the next few days because I have put it off too long. The guns and optics are now at a size that can easily be carried and concealed and it is time for me to change my ways. There have been a number of times when it comes to firearms I had to realize I was being an obstinate ass about change. One was optics on rifles. I was a grunt fresh out of the Corps and I knew I could shoot irons just fine. then I shot a red dot on a rifle and realized I was indeed being ignorant. since that epiphany I have shot number of pistol competitions with mixed classes and can't dismiss the times and accuracy of those shooting a class that allows optics. Also yes, you should change your batteries as well take them out of the optics in the safe that you dont use. Your schtick to shame isn't working. Being an obstinate ass to those not wanting to fix a problem that doesn't exist is an ignorance all on it's on. You've been called on this in the past trying to crash in and harshly criticize under the pretenses of dIsCuSsIoN and hElPiNg. And most wasn't just coming from just me as others were pointing this out as well. Before the age of red dots on handguns, how were so many of you able to stay alive? Were you all not serious then too, or is it serious only if a red dot is on their and the approved tribal list of carry and SHTF guns? If that's the case, there is a metric ton of hypocritical BS. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 1:05:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45- Seventy:iRoNz NeVeR fAiL! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/241349/7E23BF1A-EEE0-42A3-A58E-9A155023E6BD_jpe-2500786.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 45- Seventy:Quoted: This is why putting a red dot on pistol is ridiculous. Wtf for? Iron sights work all the time. iRoNz NeVeR fAiL! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/241349/7E23BF1A-EEE0-42A3-A58E-9A155023E6BD_jpe-2500786.JPG I can join that club, When you’re shooting a string and suddenly lose your front sight focus because you lose your front sight  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 1:08:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Arguing that unsupervised 2 year old kids should be trusted with loaded firearms might be the dumbest hill I've seen anyone die on here.....congrats I guess. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I 100% lock up all my guns when I'm not carrying them, I have kids, they know guns and shoot all the time. But having a unsecure firearm sitting around is irresponsible. Maybe its just my military trainnig. Military also said you should be disarmed as an individual on a base Arguing that unsupervised 2 year old kids should be trusted with loaded firearms might be the dumbest hill I've seen anyone die on here.....congrats I guess. I agree. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 1:11:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can join that club, When you’re shooting a string and suddenly lose your front sight focus because you lose your front sight https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/314595/D3D69ACA-3A74-409F-BA2F-372F9BCC14FD_jpe-2501243.JPG Whoopsies!! |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 1:16:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yup. I have a rule that loaded guns are either in my hands, on my belt, or in the quick access safe. Period, full stop. I don’t mess around with my kids safety. Leaving a loaded gun on the nightstand, in the car, etc could have tragic consequences where 3 years ago it was no big deal. Same. Of it's not securely holstered on my person or disassembled for maintenance etc, it's locked up. Once my kid showed up, my entire "firearms around the house" procedure had to change drastically. People who've never had a toddler running around don't know what a large shift in procedures it is. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 1:17:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your schtick to shame isn't working. Being an obstinate ass to those not wanting to fix a problem that doesn't exist is an ignorance all on it's on. You've been called on this in the past trying to crash in and harshly criticize under the pretenses of dIsCuSsIoN and hElPiNg. And most wasn't just coming from just me as others were pointing this out as well. Before the age of red dots on handguns, how were so many of you able to stay alive? Were you all not serious then too, or is it serious only if a red dot is on their and the approved tribal list of carry and SHTF guns? If that's the case, there is a metric ton of hypocritical BS. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I don't care if you use a red dot or not, I personally dont have one on my carry guns now. However I don't kid myself, I don't doubt they are better for aquiring targets and accuracy in the real world where threats arent stationary targets. In fact I am going to go get a P365 and throw a red dot on there in the next few days because I have put it off too long. The guns and optics are now at a size that can easily be carried and concealed and it is time for me to change my ways. There have been a number of times when it comes to firearms I had to realize I was being an obstinate ass about change. One was optics on rifles. I was a grunt fresh out of the Corps and I knew I could shoot irons just fine. then I shot a red dot on a rifle and realized I was indeed being ignorant. since that epiphany I have shot number of pistol competitions with mixed classes and can't dismiss the times and accuracy of those shooting a class that allows optics. Also yes, you should change your batteries as well take them out of the optics in the safe that you dont use. Your schtick to shame isn't working. Being an obstinate ass to those not wanting to fix a problem that doesn't exist is an ignorance all on it's on. You've been called on this in the past trying to crash in and harshly criticize under the pretenses of dIsCuSsIoN and hElPiNg. And most wasn't just coming from just me as others were pointing this out as well. Before the age of red dots on handguns, how were so many of you able to stay alive? Were you all not serious then too, or is it serious only if a red dot is on their and the approved tribal list of carry and SHTF guns? If that's the case, there is a metric ton of hypocritical BS. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 1:18:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You sound mad. Are you mad, bro? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: I don't care if you use a red dot or not, I personally dont have one on my carry guns now. However I don't kid myself, I don't doubt they are better for aquiring targets and accuracy in the real world where threats arent stationary targets. In fact I am going to go get a P365 and throw a red dot on there in the next few days because I have put it off too long. The guns and optics are now at a size that can easily be carried and concealed and it is time for me to change my ways. There have been a number of times when it comes to firearms I had to realize I was being an obstinate ass about change. One was optics on rifles. I was a grunt fresh out of the Corps and I knew I could shoot irons just fine. then I shot a red dot on a rifle and realized I was indeed being ignorant. since that epiphany I have shot number of pistol competitions with mixed classes and can't dismiss the times and accuracy of those shooting a class that allows optics. Also yes, you should change your batteries as well take them out of the optics in the safe that you dont use. Your schtick to shame isn't working. Being an obstinate ass to those not wanting to fix a problem that doesn't exist is an ignorance all on it's on. You've been called on this in the past trying to crash in and harshly criticize under the pretenses of dIsCuSsIoN and hElPiNg. And most wasn't just coming from just me as others were pointing this out as well. Before the age of red dots on handguns, how were so many of you able to stay alive? Were you all not serious then too, or is it serious only if a red dot is on their and the approved tribal list of carry and SHTF guns? If that's the case, there is a metric ton of hypocritical BS. It's kinda his thing.....you can reference basically any red dot thread for examples.
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Posted: 8/24/2022 1:22:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yuuuup. Saw a front sight fly off a gun in a match last Sunday. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Funny....I've personally witnessed more iron sights fail on pistols than red dots. At least with a red dot you have backup iron sights, when iron sights fail you have nothing.....unless you're a point shooting advocate...in which case you're already lost. OP.....I use New Years Day for annual maintenance on all my guns....I'm always off work and never have plans. Batteries get changed in every optic / light, guns that don't get shot often get wiped down and a light coat of oil...etc...etc. Yuuuup. Saw a front sight fly off a gun in a match last Sunday. Si. Saw it just last week running guys through training. His RDS (DPP) was working but his front sight was spinning. Just to add to the bitching... Glock MOS plates are complete garbage. Carry on... |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 1:23:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You sound mad. Are you mad, bro? Someone’s going on the ignore list!!! |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 1:24:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same. Of it's not securely holstered on my person or disassembled for maintenance etc, it's locked up. Once my kid showed up, my entire "firearms around the house" procedure had to change drastically. People who've never had a toddler running around don't know what a large shift in procedures it is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yup. I have a rule that loaded guns are either in my hands, on my belt, or in the quick access safe. Period, full stop. I don’t mess around with my kids safety. Leaving a loaded gun on the nightstand, in the car, etc could have tragic consequences where 3 years ago it was no big deal. Same. Of it's not securely holstered on my person or disassembled for maintenance etc, it's locked up. Once my kid showed up, my entire "firearms around the house" procedure had to change drastically. People who've never had a toddler running around don't know what a large shift in procedures it is. Agree. Now that it's just myself and my wife in the house and the kid is an adult, I will leave an unloaded gun unsecured on my workbench. When the kid was younger, everything was locked up or on my person. |
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