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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:05:05 AM EDT
[#1]
Space Crapper
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:07:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, because when the AF is so f-ed up by cheating scandals and such with in their nuclear forces, who was brought in to fix them? Oh, those stupid navy guys..... |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:08:32 AM EDT
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God the navy is all sorts of butthurt with this new service. They want their mitts all over it and cant STAND the air force as the host service.
Besides, naval rank and titles are all sorts of fucked up. Ain't no body got time for that gay fuckery. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:10:39 AM EDT
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God the navy is all sorts of butthurt with this new service. They want their mitts all over it and cant STAND the air force as the host service. Besides, naval rank and titles are all sorts of fucked up. Ain't no body got time for that gay fuckery. Let’s start a petition for the Navy to adopt Army rank structure.
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:15:25 AM EDT
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The only rank that is a must, Second Lieutenant=Space Cadet. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:23:22 AM EDT
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Less gay fuckery... less collisions. Let’s start a petition for the Navy to adopt Army rank structure. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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God the navy is all sorts of butthurt with this new service. They want their mitts all over it and cant STAND the air force as the host service. Besides, naval rank and titles are all sorts of fucked up. Ain't no body got time for that gay fuckery. Let’s start a petition for the Navy to adopt Army rank structure. We get it, crackerjack. You wanted your KY lubed meathooks deep inside the space force, but guess what? Spend less time fantasizing about star trek and more time doing boat stuff. In the water, where you're supposed to be. God crackerjack uniforms and fucked up rank in space would be sooooo gay. Like, super gay. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:25:10 AM EDT
[#7]
To be honest I'm excited to see if there's going to be Space Marines.
There's nothing in this universe we can't kill or impregnate. 
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:25:34 AM EDT
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I think I agree. A true space force will be a large complex ship not a single seat fighter or small crew bomber. A naval structure is much better suited for that environment. That said I honestly think the Navy should have been the lead on space force not the air force. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:27:07 AM EDT
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To be honest I'm excited to see if there's going to be Space Marines. There's nothing in this universe we can't kill or impregnate. https://i.imgur.com/jPemkom.gif http://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xlCWBiayAfRGNO/giphy.gif 
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:27:37 AM EDT
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Doesn't the navy have an issue with scratching Uncle Sam's ships?
They also have the Marines. Just use the AF or Army ranks...anything else sounds too Treckish... |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:28:54 AM EDT
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Well, it makes sense, because they will ultimately have ships...
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:29:38 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What ships? This isn't some stupid Star Trek movie. There is no advantage to Navy structure. 10 years ago the idea of landing a booster was syfi today SpaceX makes it look commonplace. What about 50 or 100 years from now? |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:31:21 AM EDT
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For now it’s just going to be satellites, probes,etc. My son will be a part of that command when he graduates tech school and goes to Vandenberg. If it ever gets to the point of actual ships manned with larger crews for extended periods of time, the Navy should absolutely be a involved with that. I bet they’ll keep their rank structure. If one has an IQ higher than a potato, Navy rank isn’t that difficult. Sorry jarheads and army grunts
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:31:57 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not trying to have a Filipino space force.
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:32:06 AM EDT
[#15]
I nominate that ship security personnel should wear all white body armor when in combat and red shorts at all other times.
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:32:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No arguement there... For the short to mid term I think you are exactly right. But at some point we will send honest to god ships to the other planets and get off this rock in some fashion. Start the way you intend to end. Naval rank and structure seems to be the logical approach. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:34:39 AM EDT
[#17]
I agree. It should be Naval.
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:34:52 AM EDT
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Would you rather have a General or an Admiral in charge of your space fleet. I think the naval rank is appropriate. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:35:48 AM EDT
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Every rank, rating, and piece of equipment needs to have the word "Space" in front of it. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:36:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What ships? This isn't some stupid Star Trek movie. There is no advantage to Navy structure. The space force is the air force's baby for now, until it grows wings. Until then, all the screeching you hear about Navy>AF only comes from a state of jealousy, and nothing pragmatic. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:39:24 AM EDT
[#21]
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They must use gender neutral ranks, i.e. no airman, seaman ranks. Admiral, captain and commander are also problematic as they evoke the patriarchy. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:41:51 AM EDT
[#22]
Obviously if they're on board space"ships" it should be Naval rank but since it's under the Air Force I doubt that's going to happen.
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:42:12 AM EDT
[#23]
Airplanes are more similar to ships than any spacecraft. The idea that we should base a new military branches culture on some half-century old retarded Hollywood fantasy about what space travel is like is, well, retarded.
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:42:52 AM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
To be honest I'm excited to see if there's going to be Space Marines. There's nothing in this universe we can't kill or impregnate. https://i.imgur.com/jPemkom.gif http://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xlCWBiayAfRGNO/giphy.gif |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:42:57 AM EDT
[#25]
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Obviously if they're on board space"ships" it should be Naval rank but since it's under the Air Force I doubt that's going to happen. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:44:46 AM EDT
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People have a complete misunderstanding of what the Space Force does if they think this is necessary. 
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:50:12 AM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Exactly. A bunch of civilians with a handful of satellite “pilots” sitting in Colorado in flight suits wearing spings and doing a whole bunch of fuckall 99% of the time. It’s not exactly SSDG time.
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:50:21 AM EDT
[#28]
FPNI
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:50:45 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: He's calling spacecraft "ships" in a subliminal linguistic effort to legitimize navy fuckery innnnnn spaaaaaaace. Ain't nothing naval about space for the foreseeable future. Satellites and cool experimental tech, which the AF does well. We're not building a starship enterprise to kick reptilian dick nor send manned missions across the galaxy any time soon. No need, desire nor funds for naval fuckery. The space force is the air force's baby for now, until it grows wings. Until then, all the screeching you hear about Navy>AF only comes from a state of jealousy, and nothing pragmatic. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:53:55 AM EDT
[#30]
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No shit. Navy rank structure is some nonsensical shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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FPNI; Petition should be for the USN to adopt the other services rank structure. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 1:10:54 AM EDT
[#31]
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What makes a spacecraft a "ship" and an aircraft not a "ship"? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Obviously if they're on board space"ships" it should be Naval rank but since it's under the Air Force I doubt that's going to happen. In the end its just guys trying to bring about their childhood scifi fantasies into real life utilizing rank as a feel good measure. Current and forseeable future operations have nothing in common with navy culture. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 1:19:08 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No shit. Navy rank structure is some nonsensical shit. 
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Posted: 12/25/2019 1:29:44 AM EDT
[#33]
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Yup. In the end its just guys trying to bring about their childhood scifi fantasies into real life utilizing rank as a feel good measure. Current and forseeable future operations have nothing in common with navy culture. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Obviously if they're on board space"ships" it should be Naval rank but since it's under the Air Force I doubt that's going to happen. In the end its just guys trying to bring about their childhood scifi fantasies into real life utilizing rank as a feel good measure. Current and forseeable future operations have nothing in common with navy culture. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 1:33:24 AM EDT
[#34]
Navy ranks are fine but I think they should go to pre Sept1996 when O3 and under simply called "Mister". Or Miss/Misses as necessary these days.
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Posted: 12/25/2019 11:31:54 AM EDT
[#35]
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I agree. We also called dirigibles airships. The Navy will parse all they want but Space Force is the Air Force's child. The Navy needs to butt out and run their own service which they can't seem to do very well of late. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: He's calling spacecraft "ships" in a subliminal linguistic effort to legitimize navy fuckery innnnnn spaaaaaaace. Ain't nothing naval about space for the foreseeable future. Satellites and cool experimental tech, which the AF does well. We're not building a starship enterprise to kick reptilian dick nor send manned missions across the galaxy any time soon. No need, desire nor funds for naval fuckery. The space force is the air force's baby for now, until it grows wings. Until then, all the screeching you hear about Navy>AF only comes from a state of jealousy, and nothing pragmatic. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 11:35:19 AM EDT
[#36]
Spaceships
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Posted: 12/25/2019 11:43:39 AM EDT
[#37]
TC |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 11:46:23 AM EDT
[#38]
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That's not a good argument. Look what we've made of the "New World".  Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yes. For the same general reasons people were arguing for exporting people from Europe to the 'New World', a few centuries ago. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 11:46:44 AM EDT
[#39]
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As a former jarhead, IDGAF. Once a Marine, always a Marine unless you were deemed unworthy. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 11:49:45 AM EDT
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Maybe the Space Force could use a totally new idea for rank structures. As some examples:
Junior Storm Leader Senior Storm Leader Head Storm Leader Storm Unit Leader Senior Storm Leader etc. Or jump to the top ranks: Senior Group Leader These ranks have never been done before so therefore they would be super awesome. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 11:52:04 AM EDT
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Navy rank is dumb and you should feel dumb |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 11:52:43 AM EDT
[#42]
Airman
Seaman Spaceman Seems obvious. Unfortunately, women will ruin it. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 11:53:40 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted:
People have a complete misunderstanding of what the Space Force does if they think this is necessary. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 11:54:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The Space Force isn't Star Trek. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 11:55:12 AM EDT
[#45]
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Yes. You have to know the guy's job to actually call him the correct title. The Air Force we are just about as easy as it gets: - E1-E4: Airman - E5-E7: Sergeant - E8: Chief Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: When I was Army, my signature block was was something like: SGT GovtThug 1/502nd INF FTCKY DSN 867-5309 Navy was like: P@-2 Marinegirlfriend Somefuckingship DSN GoodLuckGettingInContactWithMe What the fuck is a P@-2? It's not on any rank equivalency chart. Is that your MOS? What the fuck is that? The Air Force we are just about as easy as it gets: - E1-E4: Airman - E5-E7: Sergeant - E8: Chief |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 11:57:17 AM EDT
[#46]
Only if Naval Construction Contract(s) [NCC] or Naval eXperimental contracts [NX] are used for building the fleet.
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Posted: 12/25/2019 12:01:10 PM EDT
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The Navy currently has fuckall to do with Space Force. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 1:01:09 PM EDT
[#48]
 Attached FileOuter space will be basically living in a Space Submarine therefore I'd say USN rank is in outer space appropriate. |
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Posted: 12/25/2019 1:06:17 PM EDT
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This coming from a yahoo calling himself Commander Salamander? What a fucking retard.
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Posted: 12/25/2019 1:08:44 PM EDT
[#50]
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Leave the PC crap out of this. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They must use gender neutral ranks, i.e. no airman, seaman ranks. Admiral, captain and commander are also problematic as they evoke the patriarchy. |
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