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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:41:32 PM EDT
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Mine
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:41:44 PM EDT
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In on 3700
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:42:12 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:43:07 PM EDT
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come a long way
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:43:11 PM EDT
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 God Family Happy 3700! |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:43:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Ezel]
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In on 3700.
PBs still in DC? An encore of last night would be amazing. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:46:04 PM EDT
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https://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/world/2017-07/19/content_30176057.htm Arizona Governor Doug Ducey love China long time. "We have thousands of young people from China in our state's public universities … and we love the exchange programs, and we love having them as full-time students, and we want to expand that trade envelope," he said. Ducey believes there are lots of trade opportunities between China and Arizona, "including public and private partnerships in our semiconductor, electronics, aerospace, defense industry, mining and ores". "So I think from the franchise business to the aerospace and defense businesses, we would like to do more business with China, with China's businesspeople," he said. Ducey said he looks forward to Arizona building a closer relationship with China, because "when it comes to winning in the global marketplace, relationships matter". |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:46:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By tnriverluver: I'm up for a suicide mission should one become available just to end this pain.  
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:48:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RTX: A lot of GD is already doing this, right? best part of the meme is the semi-transparent pants so you can see the hand. 
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:48:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JCoop: It's not so much fun when the good guys start hitting back. Edit: Instagram not liking me today https://www.instagram.com/p/CIuqlYnA_DI/ This made my day! |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:50:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MRTsHaircut: From the election thread. @Hollywood_Shooter https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2900355842?pid=355842&utm_medium=shopping&utm_source=ammo-seek&utm_campaign=355842 Honestly I wouldn't buy Win white box at half that price.  (unless I had none) |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 4:50:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 36trap]
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I feel like a little kid on a road trip asking if we're there yet. So, are we there yet?
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:03:09 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:05:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Everybodygotone: It's great to see patriots standing up. I'm not there and y'all have more applicable experience with urban clashes than I do. I've only been to one riot and it was 28 years ago. Life and the political/legal climate are much different here. I support and appreciate my patriot brothers and sisters on the urban front lines, but from the outside looking in there's some (rhetorical) thoughts/questions rolling around in my mind... -Are pepper spray/paintball guns even worth it (see Lee Keltner). -Some of this seems like trying to beat the enemy at their own game rather than making them play yours. -Even in clear cases of self defense, big city DA's will try to ruin your life so why bother playing by the rules? -Playing by the rules when your opponent doesn't feels like quite a handicap, especially when big city LE have demonstrated they won't step in. -As much as I hate masks (don't even own one) there might be some benefits. -These events need some overwatch in case commies try to bullet hose a crowd of patriots. https://i.ibb.co/hfh4zxS/pepper-spray.jpg For every weapon & every tactic there is a time and place where they probably will / might be effective, and conversely situations where they would most likely would not be effective. The problem is the situations are very fluid and the rules of engagement are not in our favor. Sure -- if/when the proverbial switch is flipped - green light - pop mags - duck season! - and good reasonable people resort to their base instincts, business would get handled in short order. But to get to that point? To get to that point it would have to be clear to the average joe that rule of law had failed. Right now, the average joe doesn't even know Biden has a son named Hunter, let alone that Hunter had a laptop or ten. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By airmandaniel: My biggest takeaway from yesterday is our numbers. In areas such as here we simply don't have the turnout compared to antifa. We also didn't seem to have the staying power. They had people trickling into the area all morning and afternoon, it seemed a majority of our group showed up at once and then kind of scattered after that. They were distributed all over the city for parking and probably surveillance purposes. Our side seems to congregate and park in the same places every time. Once the main protest was over our side scattered fairly quickly, they stayed en mass. I observed one MAGA guy heading out of the area with a long gun, he was being paralleled by almost the entire black block protest group on the other side of the road. There was plenty of shit talking, but it seemed no one wanted to engage at that point. Echo squad of antifa was following him until he got out of the area. We need to organize and in a big way. Communication and planning ahead of time will make things more effective. Having a security element to counter their security elements is a must. We need to have a separation between brawlers and shooters. Our shooters get too involved in a fight which can lead to them firing shots. I know it runs counter to most of our thinking, but we need to be masking up while doing these events. I look at so many photos and videos of confrontations and the guys/gals on our side are almost always unmasked. There's a reason so many of their people are able to get away with stuff, you can't ID who they are without a hell of a lot of work. A good balaclava will hide your identity and prevent doxing. These guys seem to have a fairly sophisticated intel gathering, we need to try to counter that when we can bump. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:09:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: Honestly I wouldn't buy Win white box at half that price. (unless I had none)Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: Originally Posted By MRTsHaircut: From the election thread. @Hollywood_Shooter https://www.midwayusa.com/product/2900355842?pid=355842&utm_medium=shopping&utm_source=ammo-seek&utm_campaign=355842 Honestly I wouldn't buy Win white box at half that price. (unless I had none) |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:11:28 PM EDT
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innnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:12:22 PM EDT
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I missed the last few bigguns. In on 3700
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:15:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:17:13 PM EDT
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@GreasyEasy
Welcome back!!
 
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:17:39 PM EDT
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Afternoon squad. How is 3700 treating everyone?
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CT, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:21:29 PM EDT
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I'm on 3700!
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:21:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse: One thing we have to remember is that many (maybe most) of these Antifa/BLM folks, who are willing to be aggressive, also live together 24/7 in communal squat type environments. They know each other, have pre-event planning meetings, coordinate their movements, and AAR's. But they also go home to the same places and live with their comrades. They also know their AO and don't care if they get arrested or not. In short, they know what each other are thinking and are capable of. We don't really have that advantage. We are spread out and like minded, but don't know one another's true capabilities or determination. I was struck yesterday by the mentally ill, childishness, and drug addled mob whining about smoke grenades affecting their health. Moments later 2 of them are in the street begging to be killed. Predictability is a weakness for us, just as unpredictably of the drug addicted, mentally ill mentality make them more dangerous than they would otherwise appear to be. JMHO |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:22:27 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:24:23 PM EDT
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Very valid point |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:29:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:29:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MotorMouth: Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MotorMouth: Originally Posted By Everybodygotone: -Are pepper spray/paintball guns even worth it (see Lee Keltner). More tools in the toolbox, but understand their limitations. -Some of this seems like trying to beat the enemy at their own game rather than making them play yours. Yes, don't play their game. Set your own game up where you define the rules. -Even in clear cases of self defense, big city DA's will try to ruin your life so why bother playing by the rules? Don't get caught. -Playing by the rules when your opponent doesn't feels like quite a handicap, especially when big city LE have demonstrated they won't step in. Yep, accept the handicap or don't play by the rules. Do what you're comfortable with doing. -As much as I hate masks (don't even own one) there might be some benefits. Shemaghs, and gas masks also conceal ones identity so long as your tattoos or other markings are covered up as well. Please leave your smartphone at home as well as your titled vehicles. -These events need some overwatch in case commies try to bullet hose a crowd of patriots. Don't go alone. Organize with like minded friends and family. Have a goal, have a plan to achieve that goal, have secondary and tertiary goals, have an exfil plan, have back up (QRF), have places to go when you can't go home straight away . . . https://i.ibb.co/hfh4zxS/pepper-spray.jpg back-up/QRF would go a long way to countering them currently. overwatch would be great too, for intel gathering as it's still a little early yet for sending the hate. The thing is -- right now patriots are mostly showing up on a lark -- "let's go to the trump thing tonight! wanna go?" -- essentially - they're tourists without a plan -- Republican sheep, essentially -- who are easily picked off once the crowd dies down. That has to change. Look back to May and June -- at the early BLM protests -- when there was a much higher number of SJW do-gooders who were middle-of-the-road folk trying to get on the protest bandwagon, not hardcore marxists or anarchists. Look back to BLM events where transpo was provided and large numbers of rioters were moved efficiently and effectively over vast distances. Even the CHOP/CHAZ encampments were getting material support. But as the violence ratched up, those milquetoast folk faded back into their suburban lives, leaving only the loyal black bloc. At this point, they've had 7 months of training, networking, field craft, battle drills. They're o.r.g.a.n.i.z.e.d. Logistics. Right now - the majority of ANTIFA attending these clashes are essentially trained (to the level of their childish tactics) in harassment, assault, battery, theft, arson, but more importantly -- they have gained discipline in their formations and movements. Sure, they don't move in nice straight lines like NFAC, but they're also not knee capping each other either. The point is -- antifa is sending 'soldiers' (sic) and we're sending tourists. This needs to change. We need to organize hard ass pipe hitting mother lovers, in advance, and with a reserve, spotters/scouts, intel --- these rallies need to be attended by Patriots like they've got a battle plan, not a party plan. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:32:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EpIB4N2U8AE_g3p.jpg:large What're we supposed to be seeing here? |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:33:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MotorMouth: Mine respect. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:34:03 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:37:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Hollywood_Shooter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BethanyHatch: Seems like we need to all move into a commune together. I call dibs on a bottom bunk.  Attached FileCorner room, elevated position, northern exposure, please - thanks.  |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:37:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Fantomas]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RSG:
I spoke to my Mom today it will start on Wednesday - only what they deem essential will be able to stay open no more Christmas Shopping / all Malls will be closed next they are thinking about curfew |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:40:26 PM EDT
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If we do move into a commune, the basement will have to be 3x the footprint of the building.
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:42:05 PM EDT
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Oh - and I prefer covered parking.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:43:03 PM EDT
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Maybe someone needs to figure out where these communes are. They will be targeting us, our families and homes soon if they haven’t yet
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:43:16 PM EDT
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Just woke up from nap in time..................In on 3,700.....Any good protests/riots going on today ?????....................
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:43:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:44:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hollywood_Shooter: back-up/QRF would go a long way to countering them currently. overwatch would be great too, for intel gathering as it's still a little early yet for sending the hate. The thing is -- right now patriots are mostly showing up on a lark -- "let's go to the trump thing tonight! wanna go?" -- essentially - they're tourists without a plan -- Republican sheep, essentially -- who are easily picked off once the crowd dies down. That has to change. Look back to May and June -- at the early BLM protests -- when there was a much higher number of SJW do-gooders who were middle-of-the-road folk trying to get on the protest bandwagon, not hardcore marxists or anarchists. Look back to BLM events where transpo was provided and large numbers of rioters were moved efficiently and effectively over vast distances. Even the CHOP/CHAZ encampments were getting material support. But as the violence ratched up, those milquetoast folk faded back into their suburban lives, leaving only the loyal black bloc. At this point, they've had 7 months of training, networking, field craft, battle drills. They're o.r.g.a.n.i.z.e.d. Logistics. Right now - the majority of ANTIFA attending these clashes are essentially trained (to the level of their childish tactics) in harassment, assault, battery, theft, arson, but more importantly -- they have gained discipline in their formations and movements. Sure, they don't move in nice straight lines like NFAC, but they're also not knee capping each other either. The point is -- antifa is sending 'soldiers' (sic) and we're sending tourists. This needs to change. We need to organize hard ass pipe hitting mother lovers, in advance, and with a reserve, spotters/scouts, intel --- these rallies need to be attended by Patriots like they've got a battle plan, not a party plan. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:48:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MotorMouth: What're we supposed to be seeing here? Certificates to Governors from the People's Republic of China. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:50:39 PM EDT
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Afternoon Riot Squad.
In on 3700. Stay sharp! |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:55:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Master_Shake]
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3700!!
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:56:27 PM EDT
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This should be interesting...if you can understand him. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 5:59:42 PM EDT
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Who saw that coming? 
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:00:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TeamDoh]
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Dupe
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:00:47 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:02:37 PM EDT
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@Mr_Psmith and other comms folks....
I'm trying not to leave the thread to look - every time I do, I increase my blood pressure or decrease my bank account. To be fair, this thread has hurt my wallet as well. I have an SDR that has just sat for a year. I was hoping I could get my son interested, no luck. I understand triangulation in general, but how do I do it with 2+ laptop/SDR rigs? What would be the simplest method of recording opposition comms, editing down to soundbites w/their voices/callsigns, and rebroadcasting on something like FRS or Baofang? Things like calls for backup or medic to a location from other days? |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:04:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cecenrse:
Who saw that coming? for context  |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:07:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BethanyHatch: Seems like we need to all move into a commune together. I call dibs on a bottom bunk. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BethanyHatch: Originally Posted By Cecenrse: One thing we have to remember is that many (maybe most) of these Antifa/BLM folks, who are willing to be aggressive, also live together 24/7 in communal squat type environments. They know each other, have pre-event planning meetings, coordinate their movements, and AAR's. But they also go home to the same places and live with their comrades. They also know their AO and don't care if they get arrested or not. In short, they know what each other are thinking and are capable of. We don't really have that advantage. We are spread out and like minded, but don't know one another's true capabilities or determination. I was struck yesterday by the mentally ill, childishness, and drug addled mob whining about smoke grenades affecting their health. Moments later 2 of them are in the street begging to be killed. Predictability is a weakness for us, just as unpredictably of the drug addicted, mentally ill mentality make them more dangerous than they would otherwise appear to be. JMHO I hear there's some property available outside of Waco. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:08:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 30calTBLkid: If we do move into a commune, the basement will have to be 3x the footprint of the building. |
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Posted: 12/13/2020 6:08:37 PM EDT
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