Originally Posted By spoonrobot:
I don't know if this has been posted but same trend as the Haiti assassination:

The FBI Allegedly Used At Least 12 Informants In The Michigan Kidnapping Case https://t.co/ss2d9C9Y4f via @jvgarrison & @kenbensinger

Zoe Tillman  (@ZoeTillman) July 13, 2021

How many fuckin' people were involved in total?

At this point, only the most outlandish conspiracy theories seem unlikely

Originally Posted By tads:

Free Jacob Zuma. Or else...


Mr. Jacob Zuma, the former president of South Africa, refused to show up to a corruption hearing, and a warrant was issued for his arrest. Before turning himself over to the SA cops, he ordered his supporters to take the streets and a series of small protests began to escalate into full blown riots.

The protests and road blocks began in KwaZulu-Natal, (the Zulu homeland, also known as the KZN). These quickly spread to the city of Gauteng over the weekend, where 62 rioters were arrested. 30 trucks were torched on the N2 and N3 highways. The M2 to Johannesburg and the M7 to Durban and several smaller routes have all been systematically road blocked and the country has been brought to a complete stand still. This is not accidental. The Zuma boys are targeting heavy transport to destabilize the entire country. These are all strategic highways that carry essential goods and this is a systematic attack to their supply chain.

Mr. Zuma is a senior chief in the Zulu tribe hierarchy, and he is very close to the Zulu king. A supporting faction of the Zulus want Zuma freed because of tribal loyalties, and local popular support, hence the disaster starting in the KZN region.

The MK Veterans Association, the former military wing of the ANC (these guys are proper communists), is involved in the attacks. (Mr. Zuma is the former president of the ANC). The cities which are experiencing the violence have all had staged riots before. All of these attacks are being carried out by organized groups that have gone active. None of the violence is natural.

In response, the SA government raised their covid lockdown to level 4 to deal with the “Zuma variant”, and had serous clashes with rioters. Over the weekend the violence escalated.

Right now the violence is confined to roadblocks and a series of violent looting actions in most urban areas across SA. The dangerous thing about these riots is that thousands of poor people are joining them as a reaction to the heavy handed pandemic response and the lockdowns.

SA has had an alcohol ban, poverty has increased considerably for people who were already bellow the poverty line in 2019. Add a general state of mass hysteria and they have created fertile ground for a revolt to take place.

This escalation has reached Johannesburg, Durban and other cities, turning into a free for all in a 72 hour period. Given that there may be 20-50 casualties in the next 24 hours, things are set to get a lot worse.

Zuma is showing his power doing what communist trained leaders do best. But this is not about protest. This a subversion, and the goal is to erode government power by interrupting public order to incite a government repression to turn the people against the current president. In reality, this is an internal struggle between the interests that back Zuma and the Ramaphosa government.

There were reports of SA Police stations being systematically attacked. One police officer was shot and two others were injured in Alexandria. These are attacks are meant to dissuade police action and to collapse the state’s initial response capability. Amusingly, the SA Police are not really a force that can contain this mess. In fact quite a few of them have been filmed looting with the rioters.

Over the last 20 years, private security firms have become a parallel force in SA, relieving much of their work burden. (the combined private security sector has more personnel than the entire SA police force put together and it rivals the army in size).

Their cops simply do not have the man power to restore order and who ever is behind the violence knows this. The military has been deployed, but a state of exception has not been declared. The army is legally supporting police operations to restore order. They have not been deployed in full. They are being used in a deterring capacity in a show of force and riot operations in the worst areas.

The loyalty of the Army is now in play. The interesting thing will be to see what kind of deal the Zuma boys cut with the high command, because this could very easily end in a coup, if it is not already a coup in disguise.

The looting is a basic confrontation of rich against poor and it could escalate into a serious civil conflict. Given that white south africans control a large portion of the private economy, along with Indian, arab, chinese and other immigrants, who are seen as evil foreign capitalists, the possibility of an ethnic confrontation is very high. The Chinese presence is not seen in a healthy light, but since they may be involved, their interests may not be targeted as quite as heavily.

Most of the rioter’s messaging is actually calling for ethnic violence. The conflict is right now is mainly rural versus urban. With KZN being the focal point. The danger is escalating the conflict with the poor urban dwellers in the larger cities that have already destroyed the shopping malls. If they go against the middle class and affluent sectors, these will not be simple socioeconomic confrontations, but ethnic ones.

Communities are organizing themselves to defend their neighborhoods, tribal allegiances among the Zulu, Bantu and other groups are being formed, and the large population of poor and unemployed black south africans are being united by subversive elements into a common block with an angry mob mentality.

This revolt is being funded and it is very systematic. Food, Fuel and supplies have been cut off to the cities, and the main looting targets have all been high profile commercial centers. Their destruction is intended to create terror and panic. Other targets have been more specific, but they are mainly economic. Critical infrastructure has not been attacked yet. Thats the next escalation. If they start messing with basic services in large urban areas, its lights out and insanity ensues.
Learn about this process because it may come to a city near you in the future, courtesy of the new world order.

The rioters and looters are being bussed into urban areas in large groups, and leadership elements are directing them, because they are not local. There are also imbedded cells mobilizing poor folks from the townships and poor neighborhoods. The crowds are large because people are genuinely angry. The resources and logistics needed to mobilize these people and to man the national road block effort indicates that there is a considerable war chest that is being used and that there are seriously vested interests at work.

Zuma’s support base is in the KZN and in impoverished rural areas. He has choked the entire country with roadblocks. The attacks on the cities have a strong rural element that is being trucked in and they are gathering support in the poorer townships.

For now the unrest is being controlled by the zuma boys and the violence is essentially staged, meaning the conflict has not taken a life of its own. Symbolic targets are being destroyed, and government credibility is being eroded.
The looters are being led by hard core rioters and criminals, they are not acting out of need or desperation. Yet.

Given the reported damage and the current level of unrest, SA is looking at a partial but reparable supply chain interruption in the next few days. The danger lies in this interruption creating secondary and tertiary effects that may lead to real discontent, shortages and more unrest. With the current poverty levels and the general dissatisfaction in the population, the situation could be very difficult to contain. if food supplies are seriously interrupted, restoring order will take several weeks.

Poor people live day to day and do not have a long term food supply in their fridge. They cannot last more than a week without their local market and the supply trucks running. When supply chains are interrupted, prices naturally rise. If these supply chains are not fully restored, the roadblocks and food distribution centers become violent focal points, and poor people in urban areas will turn to violence and looting to get fed. If that happens, they will require a complete military deployment and an airlift just to feed the population.

Economically, it will take at least a year for SA to recover, and with the lockdowns, this recovery will be hindered considerably. People stop spending, businesses are lost and unemployment rises. Everyone was already on the brink with the pandemic, and social discontent will just get worse. It is not in Zuma’s interest to escalate things to a tipping point, because if the supply chain is interrupted for a prolonged period, restoring order becomes difficult for the army and who ever leads the next government. Escalating the violence to an ethnic confrontation benefits no one because it will reach a point where the violence becomes uncontrollable.

Color revolts always reach this tipping point and are scaled back to achieve a political solution. Unless the goal is to bring SA under military control, a settlement will be reached between the government and the zuma boys. That said, if this is a new world order sponsored colored revolt, the violence will be brought to a series of new peaks to systematically destroy the economy and to get a Ramaphosa resignation. If Ramaphosa falls, the situation ends up in a constitutional crisis with a transitional military government.

The worse case scenario is for the conflict to take on an ethnic dimension in the process. After that, things can take a life of their own.

Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
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Originally Posted By tads:

Free Jacob Zuma. Or else...

Originally Posted By tads:

Part 2

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So either:

a.- Its the Chinese that are going to sweep everything up because the riot bill is going to be in the gazillions.

b. This is being set up for a UN led intervention effort. (funded by the Chinese so its nit so in your face).

c.- It is the template for the great reset of  the SA population so that they will own nothing and be happy.

More concerning is the fact that this may be the type of build back better strategy that will be used to destroy independent economies throughout the world to really place us in a state of poverty.

Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Some lessons learned is to protect your infrastructure.  That is the job of the state, if they fail, then militias would have to step up.  Won't be pretty.

CD

Originally Posted By tads:

Part 2

The way things are developing, this does not look like a colored revolt, but an an action designed to destroy the entire South African economy. If it were simply about freeing Zuma, a negotiation would have already taken place, and the attacks to strategic targets would have been stood down. We would see sporadic looting today and more symbolic protests, but what we are witnessing is a series of strategic attacks against the supply chain and the economy.

The concerning thing about these attacks is that the supply chain interruption that they intend to pull off goes beyond basic food distribution centers. They hit container facilities in Durban and food warehousing facilities everywhere else. The KZN is a total hell hole now. These actions were completely unnecessary, since they already control the highway system and they have already shutdown heavy transport.

The impact on SA exports will be tremendous. (This will also affect global food prices to some extent.) The real proof in the pudding for this theory will be when they systematically start going for farms, and that is inevitable at this point, because the population is going to go hungry and weather it was intended by accident or design they will have to forage for food in the country side. When that happens, we are looking at a total South African apocalypse.

A chemical plant was set on fire and they are going after large factories and South African corporations. their choice of targets is not random or opportunistic, but seems to serve a greater economic purpose. Confirming this theory will depend on what targets they hit today. The fact that they hit a water treatment plant and that they began to attack infrastructure indicates this is not going to end well for the current government.

Color revolts are designed to capture a countries resources, infrastructure and it’s economic system intact. Regime leaders live off of payoffs and baksheesh. It is not in their interest to destroy the goose that lays the golden eggs. This is nit a simple colored revolt. This is something else.

Their target-set is not merely symbolic, they are going to cause serious structural problems for the population in the long term. No aspiring regime could undertake that level of reconstruction on its own. The bill is going to be enormous, and given how the pandemic has already hit SA, they will require serious foreign aid. Also, who ever takes over will have to use a disproportionate amount of force to restore order when everyone starts going hungry.

There are rumors that this is an EFF coup (those are the red beret guys). But no one in their right mind would want to take over a social disaster of the size of what is being created, unless the intention is to completely destroy the economic order pol pot style.

If it was a coup, all they would have to do is keep pressure on the cities for another week and the government falls. Their main fuel refinery just shut down, when that happens in this game you are toast, because without fuel your cannot mobilize anything and your days are numbered because people will start going hungry. Instead of mounting political pressure, they are systematically destroying a supply chain that will take years to restore, and damaging an economy to a point where it will be beyond repair.

What we are seeing is something more consistent with an unrestricted warfare action by a foreign actor that is capable of taking over the damage, or not interested in repairing the damage at all.

So either:

a.- Its the Chinese that are going to sweep everything up because the riot bill is going to be in the gazillions.

b. This is being set up for a UN led intervention effort. (funded by the Chinese so its nit so in your face).

c.- It is the template for the great reset of  the SA population so that they will own nothing and be happy.

More concerning is the fact that this may be the type of build back better strategy that will be used to destroy independent economies throughout the world to really place us in a state of poverty.

Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret:


In watching things unfold in the SA thread, I kind of suspected this is exactly what was happening.
This is a destabilization hit being billed as riots over a former leader.

In exchange for their participation, the players will be allowed to engage in some wholesale ethnic cleansing.

And this is likely a template will be used in other countries, much in the same way as the "Arab Spring" was.

And yes, I believe that it could be tried here, with aspects of our own government (blue city/state legislators, police etc) being on the same side as the rioters and looters.

Trigger could be anything from a high profile, Floyd(esque) police incident, election audit results, terrorist attack or merely the growing battle between the states and the feds over extended unemployment compensation.
Not sure how one would prepare for an event like this or what the counter would be. Especially in blue states.

Originally Posted By Mariner82:
I don't see those as "either" choices.  b. leads to a. which results in c.  The only wrench would be that every single UN force in history has been the US plus some token contribution by others.  China obviously wouldn't want the US involved, and frankly I don't think the US public will support it in any event, so that works out for China.

Originally Posted By HBAR16:


Clear and cogent.  Best backgrounder on the situation I've found.  Kudos tads!

Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Some lessons learned is to protect your infrastructure.  That is the job of the state, if they fail, then militias would have to step up.  Won't be pretty.

CD

Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret:


In watching things unfold in the SA thread, I kind of suspected this is exactly what was happening.
This is a destabilization hit being billed as riots over a former leader.

In exchange for their participation, the players will be allowed to engage in some wholesale ethnic cleansing.

And this is likely a template will be used in other countries, much in the same way as the "Arab Spring" was.

And yes, I believe that it could be tried here, with aspects of our own government (blue city/state legislators, police etc) being on the same side as the rioters and looters.

Trigger could be anything from a high profile, Floyd(esque) police incident, election audit results, terrorist attack or merely the growing battle between the states and the feds over extended unemployment compensation.
Not sure how one would prepare for an event like this or what the counter would be. Especially in blue states.

Originally Posted By AZNetEng:
It's time for a road trip!

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Originally Posted By tnriverluver:
Chalk one up for the good guys/gals

Woman accused of running over George Floyd protester found not guilty of assault

Damn good hit at that!!!  Video in Tweet.

Running over a nonviolent protester should be illegal. Law statement: ”the driver must be ’exercising due care,’ and the person in the roadway must be there to protest and be purposefully blocking the vehicles.” @COJudiciaryComm #Colorado #Coleg pic.twitter.com/LuD0blWLRb

— ?OS??? ?E?E? (@Joshuajered) July 6, 2020

Originally Posted By colossians323:


meh, and you could still tow a jeep if you feel the need

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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
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Originally Posted By Win1300:



Locally there are no militias.  Just local gov.  Seeing how they responded to the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy I have no doubt they will fail miserably should the time come where infrastructure needs defending.

Random thought.  How many like minded individuals would you need to lock down and secure a costco/bj's/sam's club type warehouse?  Aside from loading docks, main entrance, auto repair bays, and fire exits the skylights are the only other obvious points of entry.