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Link Posted: Yesterday 9:04:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By lorazepam:
Been a sad but enjoyable day on X. All the whiners have been reminded about Trump's advice about their militaries, and also reminded about how they enabled russia with oil purchases, then selling tech that helped them against Ukraine. I have to come here for any Ukraine news as they continue to block me. Fuck 'em, and their smug attitudes. Bottom line, they want Uncle Sam to bail them out yet again.
One guy started some article 5 bullshit and how they won't do it again because mean orange mussiloni doesn't want to defend them after they sacrificed lives for the US. My counter is I have an uncle in a cemetery in Italy for eternity, another Uncle that was disfigured for life defending their ungrateful asses, as well as my 2 year stint defending europe during the cold war.
We made a deal with Ukraine and we should honor that deal. I like the people there, and it would be a great place to live if it wasn't being attacked.
The rest of europe besides the based eastern countries can pretty much fuck off at this point. They built those socialist welfare states, they can reap the benefits. The eu is trying to stop farming through regulation and taxation, they don't drill for oil readily available, shutting down nuke plants instead of replacing them. They are doing what they can to destroy the continent, make horrible choices on just about everything.
Obama was very active in disarming Ukraine after the nuke deal, talking them out of thousands of pieces of equipment that would be mighty handy about now. He let the russians know he would be more flexible after his guaranteed second term kicked in. Between him and biden, they have been the ones to screw Ukraine the most. The bleeding out of the country is horrible, and we should be helping them crush the enemy and remove the threat.
Bagging on Trump is lame, and avoiding the root causes of why he is getting involved to begin with.
Europe doesn't have the means, or the balls to do the needful, or help Ukraine do it on their own.
This whole thing was facilitated by whoever was telling obammy what to do. They are much bigger fans of russia over Ukraine  and was a long time coming.
I don't get the whole focus on Trump.
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Excellent analysis!
Link Posted: Yesterday 9:13:47 PM EST
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Episodes of the assault on Russian positions in Kharkiv region through the eyes of the soldiers of the DIU "Artan" special unit
Link Posted: Yesterday 9:22:51 PM EST
[#3]
How Trump's Victory Begins a Countdown in Moscow
Link Posted: Yesterday 9:35:17 PM EST
[#4]
The RK Yars intercontinental ballistic missile was loaded into a silo launcher at the Kozelsky missile compound

The missile is installed in a silo launcher using a special transport and loading unit. Technological operations last for several hours.

The rearmament of the Strategic Missile Forces consists not only in equipping troops with new missile systems, but also in creating a new social infrastructure that provides better conditions for training duty forces, combat duty and recreation for personnel.

The implementation of planned measures to re-equip the Strategic Missile Forces will increase the share of modern strategic missile systems and increase the group’s capabilities to carry out assigned tasks.

🔹 Russian Ministry of Defense


https://t.me/mod_russia/45437


https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/22335501
Link Posted: Yesterday 10:05:01 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Orion_Shall_Rise:

In 4 years Poland and ukraines convetional military will be more capable then ours.
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Link Posted: Yesterday 10:24:39 PM EST
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Link Posted: Yesterday 11:00:29 PM EST
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Good to see them. Amazed they still have some. Say what you want about the Russian army, but IMO the Russian Air Force was an even weaker link. Complete inability to perform SEAD in any meaningful way which thankfully has allowed Ukraine the stay in the fight.
Link Posted: Yesterday 11:18:49 PM EST
[#8]
I honestly had not realized how deeply Euro TDS went. I've spent the past few hours marveling at how quickly his sort of tepid record as president now manifests as "literally Hitler!" in those obviously tangled neurons.

Drink a beer. Have a cigarette. Same as it ever was.
Link Posted: Yesterday 11:26:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
I honestly had not realized how deeply Euro TDS went. I've spent the past few hours marveling at how quickly his sort of tepid record as president now manifests as "literally Hitler!" in those obviously tangled neurons.

Drink a beer. Have a cigarette. Same as it ever was.
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Lol they are now just realizing that they actually have to spend money on defense. They lost their uncle sugar.  Too bad for them they are broke so they will have to cut welfare programs to fund their militaries. But if they do that then the people will revolt and they are out of power.  The elite in Europe are fucked and we are already seeing that.  Big changes coming to governments all across the EU.  Germany is up first.
Link Posted: Yesterday 11:31:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GoldenMead:


Lol they are now just realizing that they actually have to spend money on defense. They lost their uncle sugar.  Too bad for them they are broke so they will have to cut welfare programs to fund their militaries. But if they do that then the people will revolt and they are out of power.  The elite in Europe are fucked and we are already seeing that.  Big changes coming to governments all across the EU.  Germany is up first.
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Originally Posted By THOT_Vaccine:
I honestly had not realized how deeply Euro TDS went. I've spent the past few hours marveling at how quickly his sort of tepid record as president now manifests as "literally Hitler!" in those obviously tangled neurons.

Drink a beer. Have a cigarette. Same as it ever was.


Lol they are now just realizing that they actually have to spend money on defense. They lost their uncle sugar.  Too bad for them they are broke so they will have to cut welfare programs to fund their militaries. But if they do that then the people will revolt and they are out of power.  The elite in Europe are fucked and we are already seeing that.  Big changes coming to governments all across the EU.  Germany is up first.



I will bet you a shiny new quarter that Trump ends up spending more money in Eastern Europe than daddy warbucks did. Furthermore, I will include that all defense spending will probably double.

T Dawg likes spending money... Did he not send you a check too?
Link Posted: Yesterday 11:32:42 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GoldenMead:


Lol they are now just realizing that they actually have to spend money on defense. They lost their uncle sugar.  Too bad for them they are broke so they will have to cut welfare programs to fund their militaries. But if they do that then the people will revolt and they are out of power.  The elite in Europe are fucked and we are already seeing that.  Big changes coming to governments all across the EU.  Germany is up first.
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Germany's govt is flaming out, GB is a mess with labor doing labor things, France is having issues. Ireland will be calling for elections.
Link Posted: Today 12:42:11 AM EST
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Governments all across EU failing, massive influx of hostile to EU culture military aged men, economic collapse of EU's major economies, RU influence meddling and sabotage... What could go wrong.
Link Posted: Today 1:37:08 AM EST
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Lol they are now just realizing that they actually have to spend money on defense.
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Or suck up to Russia and co.
Link Posted: Today 2:42:37 AM EST
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Daily Ukraine map thread for Wednesday 6th November 2024

Highlights: Ukrainian drone strikes on Kaspiysk, near where the Caspian Sea Flotilla is based where recorded. Unknown damage, if any

Russian forces advanced to Stepanivka near Illynka, and towards Trudove east of Bohoyavlenka.

Also a mechanized assault was geolocated west of Raihorodka near Pershotravneve, but it's likely from a week ago or so

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A MiG-29 pilot of the 114th Tactical Aviation Brigade throws several GBU-39 precision-guided bombs into trenches and dugouts with Russian personnel and company commanders in the Orikhiv area
Link Posted: Today 2:44:14 AM EST
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74 ENEMY UAVS were shot down

On the night of November 7, 2024 (from 9:00 p.m. on November 6), the enemy attacked with 106 "Shahed" type UAVs and unmanned aerial vehicles of an unknown type from the directions of Kursk, Primorsko-Akhtarsk, Orel - Russian Federation, TOT of Crimea.

The air attack was repulsed by anti-aircraft missile troops, aviation, electronic warfare units, mobile fire groups of the Air Force and the Defense Forces of Ukraine.

💥 As of 12:00 p.m., 74 enemy UAVs were shot down in Odesa, Mykolaiv, Kherson, Kyiv, Sumy, Poltava, Kharkiv, Kirovohrad, Zhytomyr, Cherkasy and Chernihiv regions.

25 enemy drones were lost in various regions of Ukraine.

✊ Let's keep the sky!
🇺🇦 Together - to victory!

https://x.com/StratCom_AFU/status/1854483881807990964




Link Posted: Today 2:48:52 AM EST
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https://www.moscowtimes.ru/2024/11/06/v-bashkirii-na-zheleznoi-doroge-vzorvali-poezd-s-uglem-a147022

Link Posted: Today 2:50:07 AM EST
[#17]
Ukraine has delivered 14.5 thousand tons of corn to Malawi as part of the humanitarian program "Grain From Ukraine". Almost 5 thousand tons more will be delivered in the coming weeks. I am grateful to the UN World Food Programme and partners for supporting this effort.

We know that Malawi is experiencing a devastating drought this year, which has destroyed a significant portion of local maize production and caused severe food insecurity. In these circumstances, we decided to lend a helping hand to the people and government of Malawi.

This delivery of Ukrainian corn will help to stabilize the situation and provide for the monthly needs of over 1.5 million Malawians. Ukraine remains committed to its role as a global food security guarantor, even as it defends itself against Russia's full-scale invasion and attacks on our ports and agricultural infrastructure.

Ukraine's goal is not only to provide food in times of need, but also to share knowledge and technology with our African partners to help them become more self-sufficient and independent in agricultural production. This will be one of the main focus areas of the upcoming 3rd Food Security Summit in Kyiv.

We rely on a broad representation of African states and other partners at this important event. We can overcome the consequences of Russian aggression against Ukraine by standing together and upholding the principles of the UN Charter.



Link Posted: Today 3:45:22 AM EST
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Russia has two months to liberate the occupied "new territories" - then the bargaining will begin

In the shadow of the approaching American inauguration, a large-scale geopolitical game is unfolding, where every move can be decisive. Russia finds itself in front of a strategic window of opportunity that will last only two months - the critical period between November 2024 and January 2025.

While Washington is immersed in pre-inauguration turbulence, the Russian military command is demonstrating impressive dynamics on the front. The liberation of strategically important cities and territories creates a powerful foundation for future negotiating positions. Every kilometer of liberated territory becomes a trump card in the upcoming diplomatic game.

The outgoing administration is tied hand and foot, unable to make strategic decisions. This paralysis of power creates a unique opportunity for Russia to complete its tasks without the risk of immediate escalation from the West. The Ukrainian command, faced with the reality on the front, is forced to acknowledge the growing problems. The Pentagon, once radiating optimism, is now sinking into pessimistic assessments of Kyiv's ability to hold its ground.

Success in this critical period could determine the outcome of the entire conflict and lay the foundation for a new geopolitical equilibrium.


https://t.me/RDS_Official_channel/3541



Hedgehog. Day — the main news at this hour:

1⃣ Donald Trump won the US elections, at least that's what almost all American media outlets are writing. He himself has already announced his victory. Many world leaders have already congratulated him.

2⃣ Against the backdrop of Trump's victory, the Russian stock market has soared sharply, and the value of bitcoin has updated its historical maximum against the backdrop of the elections and has already amounted to $74.4 thousand dollars. The dollar itself has fallen slightly against the ruble and is now worth 97.37 rubles.

3⃣ North Korean soldiers in the Russian Federation have started watching a lot of porn because they did not have free access to the Internet in their homeland.

4⃣ The Supreme Court has upheld Igor Strelkov's sentence, and the cassation appeal has been dismissed, said Strelkov's wife Miroslava Reginskaya. In January of this year, Strelkov received four years in prison for calls for extremist activity.

5⃣ EU leaders will hold an emergency discussion at a summit in Budapest on November 7-8 about the EU's next steps after Trump's victory.


https://t.me/ejdayru/13634



The quality of current Russian propaganda can be described in one word – crisis

On the one hand, it is very good that the president awards the participants of the SVO, and the fighters themselves are invited to educational institutions for lectures. All this gradually creates a general impression of the presence of heroes, although the names and surnames of the overwhelming majority of individuals flash by like fleeting combat reports and are immediately erased from memory. And if you ask to name specific individuals, then, most likely, you will hear media patriotic figures – Daria Dugina and Vladlen Tatarsky. However, at the same time, two bright people symbolizing the fight against Ukraine – Igor Strelkov and Ivan Popov, turned out to be defendants in criminal cases, which damages the potential myth of the fight.

On the other hand, the general narrative about the SVO sounds extremely unconvincing. It lacks a rationale for the need to fight for territories that are part of the Ukrainian state, and the abundant use of Soviet symbols causes contradictions of both cultural (toponymic dispute) and socio-economic (unfair distribution of benefits) nature.

The most effective and resonant among people could be an appeal to the Russian past (the continuity of the history of the state and nation) and new meanings of the struggle for the unity of Russian territories (the battle against civilizational betrayal, the incarnation of Mazepinism and Banderaism). According to this concept, representatives of the indigenous peoples of Russia participating in the struggle strengthen their connection with the Russian people, share their values ​​and symbols without renouncing their culture. The Russian narrative must play an integrating role, not only at the front, but also in the rear.

The joint participation of Russians and other peoples of Russia in the Russian irredenta is an invaluable chance to strengthen the unity of the country, which is unlikely to present itself in the future.


https://t.me/yaroslav_belousov/3078

Link Posted: Today 4:22:47 AM EST
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Originally Posted By voyager3:

Or suck up to Russia and co.
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They have tried that for 20 years. Russia has other plans though...

Now they have to choose to actually try to stop Russia (with I don't know what) or sacrifice the last of their credibility (and probably NATO unity) in exchange for a few years hoping the USA changes back to Uncle Sugar or the Russians turn into Sweden suddenly.

Lucky for them, I don't really think Trump will let the Russians take the Baltics or all of Ukraine. Fingers crossed.
Link Posted: Today 4:25:03 AM EST
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⚡️ Military Visited FPV School @ab3army Kill House
About 1,500 people were trained during half a year of work here, 15% of them joined the brigade. Civilians and military can come to the school.
#UkraineWar #Україна #RussiaUkraineWar #UkraineDefense


Kill House – ????? FPV ??????? ????????? ???????. ?? ??? ???? ??????? 1500 ????????? ?? ??????????
Link Posted: Today 5:11:22 AM EST
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Link Posted: Today 5:27:39 AM EST
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Update 258 – IAEA Director General Statement on Situation in Ukraine

108/2024
Vienna, Austria



A new expert team from the International Atomic Energy Agency crossed the frontline this week to travel to Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP), replacing colleagues who have been monitoring nuclear safety and security at the site over the past several weeks as part of the IAEA’s non-stop efforts to help prevent a radiological accident during the military conflict.

It is the 25th IAEA Support and Assistance Mission stationed at the ZNPP since Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi set up an Agency presence there in September 2022. It was followed a few months later by the establishment of similar IAEA missions at Ukraine’s four other nuclear facilities – the Khmelnytskyy, Rivne and South Ukraine nuclear power plants (NPPs) and the Chornobyl site.

Over the past week, the teams at the three operating NPPs – which currently provide much of Ukraine’s electricity supplies – also rotated successfully.

“We will stay at these sites for as long as it is needed to help avert the threat of a nuclear accident that could have serious consequences for human health and the environment in Ukraine and beyond. As the nuclear safety and security situation remains highly challenging, our experts are continuing to play a crucial stabilizing role at all these facilities,” Director General Grossi said.

In their daily work, the IAEA teams assess nuclear safety and security at the five sites, provide relevant information to the public and the international community, and deliver on a comprehensive programme of technical support and assistance to Ukraine that includes nuclear safety and security-related equipment as well as expertise and advice. The IAEA also provides medical assistance.

At the ZNPP, reactor unit 1 was returned to cold shutdown mode on 2 November after welding and radiography tests were successfully completed on one leaking impulse line, as reported last week. The plant continues to analyse the underlying cause of the defect, which had no direct nuclear safety impact.

Over the past week, the IAEA team members examined the current power configuration at the ZNPP, an area which remains a deep source of concern for nuclear safety and security. They were informed that two backup transformers had resumed operation after successful high voltage testing in late October, and that maintenance would be carried out on the four remaining backup transformers by the end of the year.

With the ZNPP, they have also discussed the plant’s preparations for the cold winter months, receiving confirmation that all six reactors will remain in cold shutdown, with required heating provided by on-site boilers instead.

The IAEA team also visited the reactor and containment building of unit 4 without identifying any nuclear safety and security issues, as well as some of the emergency diesel generators of units 1 and 5.

During the past week, the team has continued to hear frequent explosions, some distance away from the ZNPP. No damage to the ZNPP was reported.

The IAEA teams at the Khmelnytskyy, Rivne and South Ukraine NPPs and the Chornobyl site reported that nuclear safety and security is being maintained despite the effects of the ongoing conflict, including air raid alarms for several days over the past week.

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/update-258-iaea-director-general-statement-on-situation-in-ukraine

Link Posted: Today 5:37:28 AM EST
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🇺🇸🇺🇦 Trump's team is discussing a new plan to end the war in Ukraine, — WSJ

📍Trump's advisers recommend freezing the war — consolidating Russia's conquest of approximately 20% of Ukraine's territory.
📍Kyiv promises not to join NATO for at least 20 years. In return, the US will continue to supply Ukraine with weapons to deter a future Russian attack.
📍The front line will remain in place, and both sides will agree on a 1,200-kilometer demilitarized zone.
📍We do not send American men and women to maintain peace in Ukraine. And we don't pay for it. Let the Poles, the Germans, the British and the French do it, said one member of Trump's team.


what a joke.
Link Posted: Today 5:50:46 AM EST
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An 8-Hour Russian Drone Barrage Keeps Kyiv on Edge as the War in Ukraine Nears 1,000 Days

Associated Press | By Hanna Arhirova
Published November 07, 2024 at 5:35 am


KYIV, Ukraine — Dozens of Russian drones targeted the Ukrainian capital Kyiv in a nighttime attack that lasted eight hours, authorities said Thursday, as Russia kept up its relentless pounding of Ukraine after almost 1,000 days of war.

Russian forces fired lone drones and swarms of drones that entered Ukrainian airspace from various directions and at a variety of altitudes, officials said, in an apparent attempt to stretch air defense systems and unnerve city residents.

Ukrainian air defenses “neutralized” three dozen drones, but falling debris caused damage to a hospital and residential and office buildings in the capital, local authorities said, including a blaze on the 33rd floor of an apartment building.

At least two people were reported injured.

Drone attacks on Kyiv have recently been occurring almost daily, with the nighttime explosions and the continuous buzzing sound of drones keeping the city on edge. Russia is deploying about 10 times more Iranian-made Shahed drones than it was this time last year, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said earlier this week.

Ukraine’s forces are struggling to match the might of Russia’s military, which is much bigger and better equipped. Western support is crucial for Ukraine to sustain the costly war of attrition. The uncertainty over how long that aid will continue has deepened, however, with the election of Donald Trump as the next president of the United States. He has repeatedly taken issue with U.S. aid to Ukraine.

Russia, meanwhile, is trying to grind down Ukraine’s appetite for the fight and sap the West’s support for Kyiv by drawing out the conflict.

The Russian barrages mostly involve Shahed drones. They are suited to terrorizing civilians, according to Andrii Kovalenko, head of the state Center for Countering Disinformation.

Russia is aiming to save and stockpile its missiles, which are much more powerful than drones, Kovalenko claimed Thursday. Russia has used missiles effectively in its campaign to knock out Ukraine’s power grid.

Also, the drone attacks gradually wear down Ukraine’s air defenses, making it more vulnerable to future missile launches.

Power outages were reported in the Zhytomyr region, which borders Kyiv to the west, following a Russian attack there, according to the energy company Zhytomyroblenergo.

Another Russian drone attack injured one person in the southern city of Odesa, regional Gov. Oleh Kiper said, as drone debris damaged an 11-story residential building.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2024/11/07/8-hour-russian-drone-barrage-keeps-kyiv-edge-war-ukraine-nears-1000-days.html



Link Posted: Today 5:53:50 AM EST
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Syrian Channels are reporting a Significant Deployment of U.S. Military Assets to Bases in Northeastern Syria, with at least 6 C-17 and C-130 Military Transports having landed at both Kharab al-Jir Airbase and the Rumalyn Landing Zone in the last 48 Hours. The Aircraft are said to have contained Air Defense Systems, American Personnel, and other Military Equipment.
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Likely Kurakhove direction.
Baluhub shows 5 apparently newly destroyed or abandoned🇷🇺BTR-82A and many 'deadniks', the results of what looks like a messed-up RuAF attack.
So UAF are busy. No time on the front line to doom about the US elections and a possible loss of aid, they have to keep fighting.
So, a suggestion, quit dooming and rather up your donations to whichever UAF unit or units you think needs help. They all do.
Note, no substantial info given with the pics. Pic 3 and 4 maybe from a different location to pic 1 and 2.
Update edit: I was subsequently informed that there are further 3 destroyed/abandoned 🇷🇺BTR-82A closeby in a nearby field.  
https://t.me/BaluHub777/15559
https://t.me/BaluHub777/15557
https://t.me/BaluHub777/15555
https://t.me/BaluHub777/15554


Link Posted: Today 7:00:00 AM EST
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I expect Putin is looking forward to having a 4 year breather to rebuild the Soviet military machine after the battle lines are frozen. 4 years.
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This sounds about right.  But what is it that he has over FDT?  Is this history’s biggest blackmail case?


Link Posted: Today 7:50:23 AM EST
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Link Posted: Today 8:11:24 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Trump's team is discussing a new plan to end the war in Ukraine,   WSJ

Trump's advisers recommend freezing the war   consolidating Russia's conquest of approximately 20% of Ukraine's territory.
Kyiv promises not to join NATO for at least 20 years. In return, the US will continue to supply Ukraine with weapons to deter a future Russian attack.
The front line will remain in place, and both sides will agree on a 1,200-kilometer demilitarized zone.
We do not send American men and women to maintain peace in Ukraine. And we don't pay for it. Let the Poles, the Germans, the British and the French do it, said one member of Trump's team.


what a joke.
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That's ridiculous/disappointing/infuriating/...

Rewarding Russia for their invasion. Let's hope that Trump's "advisors" aren't necessarily speaking for him. That's a sucker's deal.


Link Posted: Today 8:16:46 AM EST
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🇺🇦👀 We need sufficient weapons, not support in negotiations, - Zelensky

▪️We cannot yet know what specific actions Trump will take. But we hope that America will become stronger;
▪️North Korea is now, in fact, waging a war in Europe;
▪️Some of those present here strongly advocated for Ukraine to make "concessions" to Putin. This is unacceptable for Ukraine and suicide for all of Europe;
▪️Hugging Putin will not help. Some of you have been hugging him for 20 years, and things are only getting worse.



Link Posted: Today 8:25:19 AM EST
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That frag pattern looked pretty brutal. Surprised those two ran off. Probably leaking though.
Link Posted: Today 8:29:11 AM EST
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short video in tweet. ha.
Link Posted: Today 8:31:22 AM EST
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Update 258 – IAEA Director General Statement on Situation in Ukraine

108/2024
Vienna, Austria



A new expert team from the International Atomic Energy Agency crossed the frontline this week to travel to Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP), replacing colleagues who have been monitoring nuclear safety and security at the site over the past several weeks as part of the IAEA’s non-stop efforts to help prevent a radiological accident during the military conflict.

It is the 25th IAEA Support and Assistance Mission stationed at the ZNPP since Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi set up an Agency presence there in September 2022. It was followed a few months later by the establishment of similar IAEA missions at Ukraine’s four other nuclear facilities – the Khmelnytskyy, Rivne and South Ukraine nuclear power plants (NPPs) and the Chornobyl site.

Over the past week, the teams at the three operating NPPs – which currently provide much of Ukraine’s electricity supplies – also rotated successfully.

“We will stay at these sites for as long as it is needed to help avert the threat of a nuclear accident that could have serious consequences for human health and the environment in Ukraine and beyond. As the nuclear safety and security situation remains highly challenging, our experts are continuing to play a crucial stabilizing role at all these facilities,” Director General Grossi said.

In their daily work, the IAEA teams assess nuclear safety and security at the five sites, provide relevant information to the public and the international community, and deliver on a comprehensive programme of technical support and assistance to Ukraine that includes nuclear safety and security-related equipment as well as expertise and advice. The IAEA also provides medical assistance.

At the ZNPP, reactor unit 1 was returned to cold shutdown mode on 2 November after welding and radiography tests were successfully completed on one leaking impulse line, as reported last week. The plant continues to analyse the underlying cause of the defect, which had no direct nuclear safety impact.

Over the past week, the IAEA team members examined the current power configuration at the ZNPP, an area which remains a deep source of concern for nuclear safety and security. They were informed that two backup transformers had resumed operation after successful high voltage testing in late October, and that maintenance would be carried out on the four remaining backup transformers by the end of the year.

With the ZNPP, they have also discussed the plant’s preparations for the cold winter months, receiving confirmation that all six reactors will remain in cold shutdown, with required heating provided by on-site boilers instead.

The IAEA team also visited the reactor and containment building of unit 4 without identifying any nuclear safety and security issues, as well as some of the emergency diesel generators of units 1 and 5.

During the past week, the team has continued to hear frequent explosions, some distance away from the ZNPP. No damage to the ZNPP was reported.

The IAEA teams at the Khmelnytskyy, Rivne and South Ukraine NPPs and the Chornobyl site reported that nuclear safety and security is being maintained despite the effects of the ongoing conflict, including air raid alarms for several days over the past week.

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/update-258-iaea-director-general-statement-on-situation-in-ukraine

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Ukraine is still getting electricity from the ZNPP?! I thought we were assured that the nuke part was cold. The Russians surround and occupy a Ukrainian NPP that is operating and supplying electricity to Ukraine, while Russia is bombing Ukrainian electrical grids? That is a very frightening and absurd situation.

Meanwhile the USA is buying refined Uranium from Russia and NATO is buying Russian gas, all paying them billions a year.

Link Posted: Today 8:34:20 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
🇺🇸🇺🇦 Trump's team is discussing a new plan to end the war in Ukraine, — WSJ

📍Trump's advisers recommend freezing the war — consolidating Russia's conquest of approximately 20% of Ukraine's territory.
📍Kyiv promises not to join NATO for at least 20 years. In return, the US will continue to supply Ukraine with weapons to deter a future Russian attack.
📍The front line will remain in place, and both sides will agree on a 1,200-kilometer demilitarized zone.
📍We do not send American men and women to maintain peace in Ukraine. And we don't pay for it. Let the Poles, the Germans, the British and the French do it, said one member of Trump's team.


what a joke.
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After all the hundreds of thousands of lives destroyed!! The worst part is it was all so preventable. Xiden so totally FUBAR'ed this whole mess I don't blame Trump for going in this direction. Lets see if anyone agreed to this though.
Link Posted: Today 9:08:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
Trump's team is discussing a new plan to end the war in Ukraine,   WSJ

Trump's advisers recommend freezing the war   consolidating Russia's conquest of approximately 20% of Ukraine's territory.
Kyiv promises not to join NATO for at least 20 years. In return, the US will continue to supply Ukraine with weapons to deter a future Russian attack.
The front line will remain in place, and both sides will agree on a 1,200-kilometer demilitarized zone.
We do not send American men and women to maintain peace in Ukraine. And we don't pay for it. Let the Poles, the Germans, the British and the French do it, said one member of Trump's team.


what a joke.
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Trump has a mandate to avoid war, so imo threats of escalation from Trump will be seen purely as a bluff by FVP and easily called. On the flip side, I don't think Trump wants as his legacy "total collapse of Ukraine" because he totally hung them out to dry.

The combination of Trump's election rhetoric on Ukraine (which I think a large portion was to cater to his base) plus the democrats shitsandwich handling of the war the past 3 years has put Trump in a weak negotiating position. The only wildcard, is if Putin is satisfied (for now) with the land he took in Ukraine, but his original goals have unequivocally not been met.
Link Posted: Today 9:20:56 AM EST
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Ukraine is still getting electricity from the ZNPP?! I thought we were assured that the nuke part was cold. The Russians surround and occupy a Ukrainian NPP that is operating and supplying electricity to Ukraine, while Russia is bombing Ukrainian electrical grids? That is a very frightening and absurd situation.

Meanwhile the USA is buying refined Uranium from Russia and NATO is buying Russian gas, all paying them billions a year.

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Originally Posted By Prime:
Update 258 – IAEA Director General Statement on Situation in Ukraine

108/2024
Vienna, Austria



A new expert team from the International Atomic Energy Agency crossed the frontline this week to travel to Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP), replacing colleagues who have been monitoring nuclear safety and security at the site over the past several weeks as part of the IAEA’s non-stop efforts to help prevent a radiological accident during the military conflict.

It is the 25th IAEA Support and Assistance Mission stationed at the ZNPP since Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi set up an Agency presence there in September 2022. It was followed a few months later by the establishment of similar IAEA missions at Ukraine’s four other nuclear facilities – the Khmelnytskyy, Rivne and South Ukraine nuclear power plants (NPPs) and the Chornobyl site.

Over the past week, the teams at the three operating NPPs – which currently provide much of Ukraine’s electricity supplies – also rotated successfully.

“We will stay at these sites for as long as it is needed to help avert the threat of a nuclear accident that could have serious consequences for human health and the environment in Ukraine and beyond. As the nuclear safety and security situation remains highly challenging, our experts are continuing to play a crucial stabilizing role at all these facilities,” Director General Grossi said.

In their daily work, the IAEA teams assess nuclear safety and security at the five sites, provide relevant information to the public and the international community, and deliver on a comprehensive programme of technical support and assistance to Ukraine that includes nuclear safety and security-related equipment as well as expertise and advice. The IAEA also provides medical assistance.

At the ZNPP, reactor unit 1 was returned to cold shutdown mode on 2 November after welding and radiography tests were successfully completed on one leaking impulse line, as reported last week. The plant continues to analyse the underlying cause of the defect, which had no direct nuclear safety impact.

Over the past week, the IAEA team members examined the current power configuration at the ZNPP, an area which remains a deep source of concern for nuclear safety and security. They were informed that two backup transformers had resumed operation after successful high voltage testing in late October, and that maintenance would be carried out on the four remaining backup transformers by the end of the year.

With the ZNPP, they have also discussed the plant’s preparations for the cold winter months, receiving confirmation that all six reactors will remain in cold shutdown, with required heating provided by on-site boilers instead.

The IAEA team also visited the reactor and containment building of unit 4 without identifying any nuclear safety and security issues, as well as some of the emergency diesel generators of units 1 and 5.

During the past week, the team has continued to hear frequent explosions, some distance away from the ZNPP. No damage to the ZNPP was reported.

The IAEA teams at the Khmelnytskyy, Rivne and South Ukraine NPPs and the Chornobyl site reported that nuclear safety and security is being maintained despite the effects of the ongoing conflict, including air raid alarms for several days over the past week.

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/update-258-iaea-director-general-statement-on-situation-in-ukraine


Ukraine is still getting electricity from the ZNPP?! I thought we were assured that the nuke part was cold. The Russians surround and occupy a Ukrainian NPP that is operating and supplying electricity to Ukraine, while Russia is bombing Ukrainian electrical grids? That is a very frightening and absurd situation.

Meanwhile the USA is buying refined Uranium from Russia and NATO is buying Russian gas, all paying them billions a year.



Lots of money still going both ways on many things.  It allows the rest of the world to continue on their merry way with as little disruption as possible, and I suppose it leave some measures on the table to still be taken at a later time.

This is a pretty strange high-intensity conflict, neither side has even done a general mobilization.
Link Posted: Today 9:25:25 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
🇺🇸🇺🇦 Trump's team is discussing a new plan to end the war in Ukraine, — WSJ

📍Trump's advisers recommend freezing the war — consolidating Russia's conquest of approximately 20% of Ukraine's territory.
📍Kyiv promises not to join NATO for at least 20 years. In return, the US will continue to supply Ukraine with weapons to deter a future Russian attack.
📍The front line will remain in place, and both sides will agree on a 1,200-kilometer demilitarized zone.
📍We do not send American men and women to maintain peace in Ukraine. And we don't pay for it. Let the Poles, the Germans, the British and the French do it, said one member of Trump's team.


what a joke.
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Link Posted: Today 9:31:47 AM EST
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Link Posted: Today 9:37:57 AM EST
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This sounds about right.  But what is it that he has over FDT?  Is this history’s biggest blackmail case?


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Blackmail? Trump has publicly been kind of warm to Putin and said we are wasting money helping Ukraine. Trump has said zelensky should have taken a deal with Putin because it is hopeless for Ukraine to try to stop Russia.
Link Posted: Today 10:05:25 AM EST
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Link Posted: Today 10:24:03 AM EST
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Good. I like Tom Cotton but I don’t believe in yanking good senators out of powerful positions for temporary White House jobs.

Case in point was Jeff Sessions, reliable conservative senator to disappointing atty geneneral. Big mistake.
Link Posted: Today 10:32:21 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
🇺🇸🇺🇦 Trump's team is discussing a new plan to end the war in Ukraine, — WSJ

📍Trump's advisers recommend freezing the war — consolidating Russia's conquest of approximately 20% of Ukraine's territory.
📍Kyiv promises not to join NATO for at least 20 years. In return, the US will continue to supply Ukraine with weapons to deter a future Russian attack.
📍The front line will remain in place, and both sides will agree on a 1,200-kilometer demilitarized zone.
📍We do not send American men and women to maintain peace in Ukraine. And we don't pay for it. Let the Poles, the Germans, the British and the French do it, said one member of Trump's team.


what a joke.
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Why would Ukrainians ever believe them considering we fucked them over last time when they demilitarized.


Then baltics and the Scandinavian peninsula will go nuclear powers within two years.
Link Posted: Today 10:34:26 AM EST
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Also absolutely BEAHAHHAHAHHAH at all the simpletons who thought trump team would be different from what they had been saying.


Absolutely laughing here.
Link Posted: Today 10:35:28 AM EST
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Originally Posted By trapsh00ter99:
Trump has a mandate to avoid war, so imo threats of escalation from Trump will be seen purely as a bluff by FVP and easily called. On the flip side, I don't think Trump wants as his legacy "total collapse of Ukraine" because he totally hung them out to dry.

The combination of Trump's election rhetoric on Ukraine (which I think a large portion was to cater to his base) plus the democrats shitsandwich handling of the war the past 3 years has put Trump in a weak negotiating position. The only wildcard, is if Putin is satisfied (for now) with the land he took in Ukraine, but his original goals have unequivocally not been met.
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I think everyone is ignoring the fact that Ukraine also has a say in the matter.

Zelensky may just decide to take a pass on Trumps proposed solution and continue on with increased European support.
Link Posted: Today 10:37:13 AM EST
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Originally Posted By stgdz:

Why would Ukrainians ever believe them considering we fucked them over last time when they demilitarized.


Then baltics and the Scandinavian peninsula will go nuclear powers within two years.
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This.



CMOS
Link Posted: Today 11:05:18 AM EST
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I think everyone is ignoring the fact that Ukraine also has a say in the matter.

Zelensky may just decide to take a pass on Trumps proposed solution and continue on with increased European support.
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They won't make it without our support.
Link Posted: Today 11:19:01 AM EST
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Originally Posted By HIPPO:
🇺🇸🇺🇦 Trump's team is discussing a new plan to end the war in Ukraine, — WSJ

📍Trump's advisers recommend freezing the war — consolidating Russia's conquest of approximately 20% of Ukraine's territory.
📍Kyiv promises not to join NATO for at least 20 years. In return, the US will continue to supply Ukraine with weapons to deter a future Russian attack.
📍The front line will remain in place, and both sides will agree on a 1,200-kilometer demilitarized zone.
📍We do not send American men and women to maintain peace in Ukraine. And we don't pay for it. Let the Poles, the Germans, the British and the French do it, said one member of Trump's team.


what a joke.
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Does it include freezing the lines around Kursk though? This part was a masterstroke by Ukraine precisely for this reason.
I don't think anyone is surprised by Trump putting forth this kind of proposal. I think most theories on what happens next were around what happens when Russia or Ukraine or both reject it or Putin pretends to accept it, then tries to pull another blitzkrieg.
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