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Posted: 6/5/2018 9:48:27 PM EDT
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I want as many people with a pistol brace as possible. So that. Crank em out, Uncle Palmetto! 
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Posted: 6/5/2018 9:48:56 PM EDT
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SBR for me. Waiting on 2 stamps that should be here in July. To each their own. I personally think braces look gay as fuck but that’s just my opinion.
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Posted: 6/5/2018 9:54:11 PM EDT
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I have two braces, no SBRs. They were recently re-legalized in Iowa but I haven't taken the plunge yet. Out of curiosity, do you have to notify ATF if you cross state lines with an SBR'd lower but keep a 16" upper on it?
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Posted: 6/5/2018 9:58:18 PM EDT
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The only reason I'm not 100% sold is the potential for ATF ruling reversal down the road If you want to avoid things that *might* be banned someday just go ahead and get rid of your adjustable stocks, flash hiders, binary triggers, m855, "barrel shrouds", shoulder uppy things... |
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Posted: 6/5/2018 10:15:30 PM EDT
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I have both as well and say brace is better. My SB PDW brace feels as good as my SBRs, I think looks better, and there's no wait! If the ATF changes their mind I'll need to start mailing in forms annually to cross state lines and not have it concealed..... @RNB32 I believe you'd be violating the law with a once a rifle always a rifle by putting a pistol brace on a rifle lower. I believe that this applies to reconfiguring pistol->rifle->pistol. I intentionally build my ARs as pistols first to maintain compliance. That said, I've never needed to do so. |
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Posted: 6/5/2018 10:19:02 PM EDT
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I have two braces, no SBRs. They were recently re-legalized in Iowa but I haven't taken the plunge yet. Out of curiosity, do you have to notify ATF if you cross state lines with an SBR'd lower but keep a 16" upper on it? |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 1:32:25 AM EDT
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They are both sub-optimal for different reasons. Hence why I made this meme. "Gay" work-around vs Bootlicker permission slip. It's just a regular gun with a shorter barrel, and yet it's jail-worthy somehow if you don't dance the robot just right. At least machine guns and supressors do something unique to "deserve" to be regulated. (No I don't support regulating suppressors or MGs). https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/75400/IMG_7078-567047.JPG  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 1:36:38 AM EDT
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both
i have two sbr lowers for when im not traveling. have a PSA pistol lower sba3 for when crossing state lines because our gun laws were written by a retarded child. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 1:59:30 AM EDT
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What gun?
MP5? Need to SBR that bitch AR? Get both CZ Scorpion? Old school 32acp Vz61 SBR. New 9mm one brace is good, but I am going SBR just as a personal choice. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 2:19:55 AM EDT
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I'd rather have an SBR but until they are no longer regulated. This will have to do
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Posted: 6/6/2018 2:23:02 AM EDT
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They are both sub-optimal for different reasons. Hence why I made this meme. "Gay" work-around vs Bootlicker permission slip. It's just a regular gun with a shorter barrel, and yet it's jail-worthy somehow if you don't dance the robot just right. At least machine guns and supressors do something unique to "deserve" to be regulated. (No I don't support regulating suppressors or MGs). https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/75400/IMG_7078-567047.JPG I admit that pistol braces are kinda gay. But the NFA route is not really any better. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 2:29:24 AM EDT
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12" 6.5 Grendel with Maxim PDW Brace
 Works over the steel out to 800yds so far. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 2:41:11 AM EDT
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They are both sub-optimal for different reasons. Hence why I made this meme. "Gay" work-around vs Bootlicker permission slip. It's just a regular gun with a shorter barrel, and yet it's jail-worthy somehow if you don't dance the robot just right. At least machine guns and supressors do something unique to "deserve" to be regulated. (No I don't support regulating suppressors or MGs). https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/75400/IMG_7078-567047.JPG -Silencers allow people to defend themselves without having to worry about significant hearing loss. They will still most likely suffer hearing loss. Just not as much. -Machine guns allow people to defend themselves against just about any foreseeable threat on the individual level which is why they are the weapon of choice for the US Government. -DD's allow you to defend yourself in extreme circumstances against heavily armored invaders. In other words, anything that could help you protect yourself or your family from threats scaling from the common ghetto rat to a group of armed thugs trained to be soldiers (cough CARTELS cough) is heavily restricted or banned under the guise of "somebody bad could use it" and yet they aren't so terrible in and of themselves for the US government to stop using them. At the same time: -Real, actual violent criminals are given a slap on the wrist in our revolving door we call a legal system. -Our borders are left wide open and people are actually encouraged to flock here. -Our laws against illegals go unenforced or under-enforced. -A rather sizable chunk of "gun crimes" against real criminals either aren't prosecuted or are plead down to lesser charges. -More and more onerous laws are passed to prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves. It's almost like a pattern is emerging but I can't quite put my finger on it.    
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Posted: 6/6/2018 2:47:47 AM EDT
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I have a serious hankering for an SBA3. I have no SBRs. More on principle than anything else. If you want to spend $200 + stock price you do you. Bur this whole, "braces are gay" shit really should stop. Makes you look like a petulant middle schooler. We're on the same team. I only do SBR's and will never own a pistol. Not worth it to me and it's a waste of my money and resources. I don't care if anyone wants to do a pistol. You do you, and don't worry about what I do or the other SBR fans think or feel. Fair is fair and that's the only way to meet a compromise. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 2:54:17 AM EDT
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Registered or non- Registered; which is "better"?
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Posted: 6/6/2018 2:54:30 AM EDT
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-SBRs and SBS allow home owners to defend themselves better against threats in enclosed spaces. -Silencers allow people to defend themselves without having to worry about significant hearing loss. They will still most likely suffer hearing loss. Just not as much. -Machine guns allow people to defend themselves against just about any foreseeable threat on the individual level which is why they are the weapon of choice for the US Government. -DD's allow you to defend yourself in extreme circumstances against heavily armored invaders. In other words, anything that could help you protect yourself or your family from threats scaling from the common ghetto rat to a group of armed thugs trained to be soldiers (cough CARTELS cough) is heavily restricted or banned under the guise of "somebody bad could use it" and yet they aren't so terrible in and of themselves for the US government to stop using them. At the same time: -Real, actual violent criminals are given a slap on the wrist in our revolving door we call a legal system. -Our borders are left wide open and people are actually encouraged to flock here. -Our laws against illegals go unenforced or under-enforced. -A rather sizable chunk of "gun crimes" against real criminals either aren't prosecuted or are plead down to lesser charges. -More and more onerous laws are passed to prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves. It's almost like a pattern is emerging but I can't quite put my finger on it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They are both sub-optimal for different reasons. Hence why I made this meme. "Gay" work-around vs Bootlicker permission slip. It's just a regular gun with a shorter barrel, and yet it's jail-worthy somehow if you don't dance the robot just right. At least machine guns and supressors do something unique to "deserve" to be regulated. (No I don't support regulating suppressors or MGs). https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/75400/IMG_7078-567047.JPG -Silencers allow people to defend themselves without having to worry about significant hearing loss. They will still most likely suffer hearing loss. Just not as much. -Machine guns allow people to defend themselves against just about any foreseeable threat on the individual level which is why they are the weapon of choice for the US Government. -DD's allow you to defend yourself in extreme circumstances against heavily armored invaders. In other words, anything that could help you protect yourself or your family from threats scaling from the common ghetto rat to a group of armed thugs trained to be soldiers (cough CARTELS cough) is heavily restricted or banned under the guise of "somebody bad could use it" and yet they aren't so terrible in and of themselves for the US government to stop using them. At the same time: -Real, actual violent criminals are given a slap on the wrist in our revolving door we call a legal system. -Our borders are left wide open and people are actually encouraged to flock here. -Our laws against illegals go unenforced or under-enforced. -A rather sizable chunk of "gun crimes" against real criminals either aren't prosecuted or are plead down to lesser charges. -More and more onerous laws are passed to prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves. It's almost like a pattern is emerging but I can't quite put my finger on it. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 2:58:30 AM EDT
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And the whole tax stamps are a waste of money or no needing a permission slip is just as equally petulant as a middle schooler. Neither side has the higher ground here. You're all just out to burn those that you perceive as heritics to the 2A as you envision it. We're on the same team. I only do SBR's and will never own a pistol. Not worth it to me and it's a waste of my money and resources. I don't care if anyone wants to do a pistol. You do you, and don't worry about what I do or the other SBR fans think or feel. Fair is fair and that's the only way to meet a compromise. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have a serious hankering for an SBA3. I have no SBRs. More on principle than anything else. If you want to spend $200 + stock price you do you. Bur this whole, "braces are gay" shit really should stop. Makes you look like a petulant middle schooler. We're on the same team. I only do SBR's and will never own a pistol. Not worth it to me and it's a waste of my money and resources. I don't care if anyone wants to do a pistol. You do you, and don't worry about what I do or the other SBR fans think or feel. Fair is fair and that's the only way to meet a compromise. We are all on the same side. SBR people should support how braces are making the restrictions on <16" ARs and similar moot. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 2:58:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Again, I agree with you 100%. I don't support the NFA in any waynot even for DDs. I think I worded that post improperly. My point was only that MGs and suppressors have a function that's different from a title I firearm. Not that said function is somehow actually more "evil." I read your post, thought how accurate your meme was, got pissed* at its accuracy, and decided to bark at the clouds. I still miss your bump fire videos (no homo).
*Edit: Pissed at the government and the people who support those policies; not you. 
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Posted: 6/6/2018 3:04:22 AM EDT
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Both
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Posted: 6/6/2018 4:15:05 AM EDT
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95 people have SBRs and are jelly
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Posted: 6/6/2018 4:30:33 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/6/2018 4:34:21 AM EDT
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I hate to say it but aside for a few, the brace has made the SBR obsolete. 
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Posted: 6/6/2018 4:36:19 AM EDT
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I probably have about 10 braced pistols in different calibers and lengths. I use stamp money for cans and I can't have loaded rifles in vehicles in pa
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Posted: 6/6/2018 4:43:07 AM EDT
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I probably have about 10 braced pistols in different calibers and lengths. I use stamp money for cans and I can't have loaded rifles in vehicles in pa https://blog.princelaw.com/2014/02/17/the-great-pennsylvanian-trunk-gun/ |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 4:44:08 AM EDT
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SBR's are cooler, and you get to use a VFG.
However I really like the ability to travel freely with a suppressed pistol. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 4:46:33 AM EDT
[#26]
Get both.
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Posted: 6/6/2018 10:21:52 AM EDT
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Meh, I get to legally have my SBR or any rifle locked and loaded, even concealed in the front seat in my state.
I'd rather and do have a 14.5 pinned to 16 for this task. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 10:26:18 AM EDT
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Get both. Both have their advantages
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Posted: 6/6/2018 10:26:50 AM EDT
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I can take my "pistol" out of state without having to jump through lots of hoops and paperwork......not true with an SBR. That does it for me.
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Posted: 6/6/2018 10:28:21 AM EDT
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This shit and threads like it aren't even funny anymore OP, and they only serve to add trash to a pretty good forum overall.
A.W.D. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 10:32:14 AM EDT
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All the guys saying braces look gay, yet they pay Uncle Sam $200 to gargle his balls. I dunno.
I have 2 pistols, an AR and Zenith MP5. I do want to SBR the Zenith, but the brace works fine and dandy. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 10:34:18 AM EDT
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What happens if der furher atf decides to crack down on pistol braces and classify them as sbrs since apparently bump stock = machine gun for some retarded reason?
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Posted: 6/6/2018 10:35:08 AM EDT
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If you remove the legal bull shit. A proper SBR is better...
but there is the legal bull shit to deal with. In that regard, a braced pistol is better; because an SBR required begging the government to allow you to take it across state lines. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 10:37:44 AM EDT
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I split my time between Fl and our cabin in NC, so brace.
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Posted: 6/6/2018 10:38:12 AM EDT
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Have two SBR AR lowers and now a sba3... As long as the law stays as is no more tax stamps for me(except more cans)
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Posted: 6/6/2018 10:44:34 AM EDT
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What happens if der furher atf decides to crack down on pistol braces and classify them as sbrs since apparently bump stock = machine gun for some retarded reason? If the gov decides to legislate braces into an illegal possession, then I reckon I’ll have to give Uncle Sam that $200 handjob. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 10:58:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What if the ATF decided to crack down on SBRs, because some kook shot up a nursery school with one? It’s a shame that we’re just a few penstrokes away from having gun laws altered on a whim. If the gov decides to legislate braces into an illegal possession, then I reckon I’ll have to give Uncle Sam that $200 handjob. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 11:03:45 AM EDT
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I do not have an SBR. I have an AR pistol, so I voted pistol.
I would really like to have an SBR but given the wait times for ATF approval plus $200 it just doesn't seem worth the hassle to me. A lot of people have AR and other pistols. What would happen if the ATF reversed its stance on pistol braces? Would there be some kind of grandfathering arrangement or would we all become criminals overnight? |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 11:04:24 AM EDT
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They're about the same and a matter of preference.
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Posted: 6/6/2018 12:05:29 PM EDT
[#40]
Functionally, I'd prefer a stock on an SBR versus a brace.
But, I don't like the legal bullshit involved with an SBR. Tax stamps and braces both make baby Jesus cry. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 12:08:52 PM EDT
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I own 7 SBRs.
I'll never do another one as long as pistol braces are legal. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 12:11:14 PM EDT
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A real stock is better
But due to .Gov being .gov tho brace makes more sense |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 12:15:28 PM EDT
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Sbr for utility. Brace for convenience.
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Posted: 6/6/2018 12:15:52 PM EDT
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I have 5 SBRs and I say brace is better. Does everything an SBR does but also can ride in the vehicle as a concealed weapon and travel over state lines without permission from BATFE. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 12:16:07 PM EDT
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12" 6.5 Grendel with Maxim PDW Brace http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j422/LRRPF52/20180528_171005_zpsom3n21iw.jpg Works over the steel out to 800yds so far. 
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Posted: 6/6/2018 12:16:23 PM EDT
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I probably have about 10 braced pistols in different calibers and lengths. I use stamp money for cans and I can't have loaded rifles in vehicles in pa |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 12:17:59 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/6/2018 12:18:38 PM EDT
[#48]
80% lower 7 inch pistol with sig MPX brace.
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Posted: 6/6/2018 12:21:23 PM EDT
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SBR.
Those silly brace things are gayer than Freddie Mercury rollerblading in cutoffs. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 12:24:56 PM EDT
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In the middle of an 8.5” 300 blackout build. It’s getting a Maxim brace.
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