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Link Posted: 2/26/2023 12:35:59 PM EDT
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Republicans have done almost nothing to reach out to them.  The right message coming from the right person will bring black voters over in droves.  Trump was much more popular among blacks than the dems will ever admit.  The big cities are never going to flip but the numbers could change in a big way if republicans could make inroads among churchgoing families.  To do that they have to try and they really don't.
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?? ‘member president kushner’s “platinum plan”? Literally half a trillion dollars of gibs.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 12:37:19 PM EDT
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When I was in high school, I made decent grades and scored very high on both the SAT an ACT.  A black girl in my high school class had lower grades and significantly lower SAT an ACT scores.

I was awarded very modest scholarship to help with expenses for two semesters.   She got a full ride to UT.
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In 1980 as I was prepping to graduate high school, one of my teachers pushed me to apply for a scholarship in architectural drafting, He told me "your not Wright, but you've got a talent for it"...I applied, the only other person that applied in our area was a black girl, and she was awarded the scholarship...I told my teacher I guess she is just better than me.....he just "no"  leaves a bitter taste, but life goes on.    my legacy is a vacation home  that was built by a family member on my plans.



When I was in high school, I made decent grades and scored very high on both the SAT an ACT.  A black girl in my high school class had lower grades and significantly lower SAT an ACT scores.

I was awarded very modest scholarship to help with expenses for two semesters.   She got a full ride to UT.



I followed the business for a couple decades.....never saw anything with her name on it.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 12:46:58 PM EDT
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Was going to add that Dave Chappell lives in a rural part of Ohio that is probably all white
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Yellow Springs is more left than San Francisco. Just as NIMBY too.  African Americans in that town only have to fear tripping over the whites bowing down to them to show they aren't part of the straight white male patriarchy. It's a super liberal college town not a racist methbillyburg.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 12:52:46 PM EDT
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I have quite a few black friends.  I don't live in a segregated city that breeds racism against white black or brown people.  For those of you who think most black people secretly hate you it simply isnt true unless you live in a dominantly black urban area. Same shit as the blatant white racism in most places where there are very few black people and the only exposure to blacks is the crime news they see from urban areas.    If I was a black person in white rural Ohio I'd be just as scared as a white person in Baltimore. If you live somewhere that isn't segregated and monocultural by race you should make efforts to bridge this divide imo.  It's worth it.
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Since black people in the farmland are constantly being robbed, beaten, and murdered - right?
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 1:09:28 PM EDT
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It's funny to me how white people who haven't lived around large black populations tend to have different opinions than those of us who have.

I grew up in majority black areas, I went to majority black schools, I worked a few manual labor/construction jobs with majority black coworkers, etc. I've been in numerous fights with blacks that I didn't start, I've been jumped by blacks multiple times, I've had numerous blacks beg for money and get very aggressive when I said no, I've had a black coworker slash my tires, I've had my car broken into no less than six times, I've had valuables I made the mistake of leaving unattended for a few minutes get snatched up (like my fucking toolbox), I've had to deal with routine riots in my area every time a black criminal gets killed, etc.

This isn't even getting into the casual ethno-centrism that's normal among blacks. If they get into a position of power, 9/10 they'll demonstrate an obvious degree of racial nepotism. If there's a disagreement, they'll almost always pick sides on the basis of race, regardless of who's actually right or wrong. If you get into a disagreement with them that goes on long enough, it'll inevitably devolve into you getting called racist. If you're a white guy and you don't automatically bend over to them, they respond with rage and confusion.

This isn't a problem that's going to be fixed. The best solution is to just not live around large black populations.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 1:09:28 PM EDT
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He split from the whole fuckin' program.
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Which racism? I distinctly remember growing up in the 80's and getting the absolute shit kicked out of me damn near weekly by blacks. Your right in that racism is taught, they taught me to never be around them as it's dangerous to one's existence.

There are tons of white guys that have similar experiences and I would say it's only gotten worse since then.

I don't hate blacks as a whole, I would like them to get their shit toghther but I know that's asking for the impossible, So the best bet is to live in an area where there is hardly any of them.
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I don't dislike blacks as a whole either, but my experiences growing up and in my early twenties taught me that it's a bad idea to live around large black populations, and that groups of black males often pose a significant threat. It's just basic pattern recognition.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 1:36:11 PM EDT
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And just what, exactly is the "right message"?    should we make all sorts of promises of goodies and free shit to lure them in?   be specific.
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Here Scott talks to Hotep Jesus.

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Blacks are just barely on the other side of a paper wall.  They’re natural conservatives.  Only a good education stands in their way.  Teacher’s unions ARE systemic racism…in that they are complete failures.

Blacks should be GOA members.  Gays too.  How the left keeps them mesmerized against their better interests is quite the magic act.


Republicans have done almost nothing to reach out to them.  The right message coming from the right person will bring black voters over in droves.  Trump was much more popular among blacks than the dems will ever admit.  The big cities are never going to flip but the numbers could change in a big way if republicans could make inroads among churchgoing families.  To do that they have to try and they really don't.



And just what, exactly is the "right message"?    should we make all sorts of promises of goodies and free shit to lure them in?   be specific.


I suspect that some conservatives think that the 'right message' will somehow convince black voters that they are being used by democrats, and that republican policies will allow them opportunities to improve themselves through their own work.

Honestly, that may work with some, but if a person has any doubts that it will never work with others, they should just go looking for 'EBT haul' videos on youtube, watch those videos, and read the comments.  That group doesn't want to be suckers who work and have to pay taxes so the government will spend their money on other people, and they've already found a low effort way to prevent that (voting for republican policies is NOT something they see as being good for them).
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I suspect that some conservatives think that the 'right message' will somehow convince black voters that they are being used by democrats, and that republican policies will allow them opportunities to improve themselves through their own work.

Honestly, that may work with some, but if a person has any doubts that it will never work with others, they should just go looking for 'EBT haul' videos on youtube, watch those videos, and read the comments.  That group doesn't want to be suckers who work and have to pay taxes so the government will spend their money on other people, and they've already found a low effort way to prevent that (voting for republican policies is NOT something they see as being good for them).
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It's a symbiotic relationship and not a victimization.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 1:52:30 PM EDT
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Yellow Springs is more left than San Francisco. Just as NIMBY too.  African Americans in that town only have to fear tripping over the whites bowing down to them to show they aren't part of the straight white male patriarchy. It's a super liberal college town not a racist methbillyburg.
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Was going to add that Dave Chappell lives in a rural part of Ohio that is probably all white



Yellow Springs is more left than San Francisco. Just as NIMBY too.  African Americans in that town only have to fear tripping over the whites bowing down to them to show they aren't part of the straight white male patriarchy. It's a super liberal college town not a racist methbillyburg.


Yes, I think I heard that, but wanted add to the point that plenty of blacks don't want to live in black areas and that the most lefty cities around tend to be pretty damn white but the lefty whites don't talk about that.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 2:08:34 PM EDT
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Yes, I think I heard that, but wanted add to the point that plenty of blacks don't want to live in black areas and that the most lefty cities around tend to be pretty damn white but the lefty whites don't talk about that.
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Was going to add that Dave Chappell lives in a rural part of Ohio that is probably all white



Yellow Springs is more left than San Francisco. Just as NIMBY too.  African Americans in that town only have to fear tripping over the whites bowing down to them to show they aren't part of the straight white male patriarchy. It's a super liberal college town not a racist methbillyburg.


Yes, I think I heard that, but wanted add to the point that plenty of blacks don't want to live in black areas and that the most lefty cities around tend to be pretty damn white but the lefty whites don't talk about that.


Here is another inconsistency you'll see in social debates.

We are supposed to accept that redlining or any historical eminent domain action for infrastructure was fundamentally white supremacy, and not just classism. Because, even though there were plenty of poorer white people and other groups involved in this, it "disproportionately" impacted black people relative to their populations in those cities. As such, you will constantly here the narrative advanced that these things targeted "black neighborhoods" even when there is zero evidence race was on any of the minds of those making the decisions.

This idea that "disproportionately black" can and should be expressed with the shorthand "black" is used in many other contexts, but only in so far as the idea is to paint the residents as victims of systemic racism. In fact, trying to remind people that those policies impactes poor white people as well will be viewed as an attempt (probably rooted in your white privilege) to minimize the reality of white supremacy.

The moment the context changes and, say, someone is arguing for why we need section 8 programs in suburban neighborhoods, you are no longer able to suggest the argument is, at its core, suggesting people are better off not being in black neighborhoods. In these cases. Even suggest this is "racist." Instead, people will go to great pains to point out that the fundamental issue is socioeconomic status and that those areas they don't want section 8 limited to are just incidentally disproportionately black. Of course, the reason those areas are is once again "systemic racism."

Pay attention to these policy debates for any length of time and you will see this inherent inconsistency.



Link Posted: 2/26/2023 3:46:25 PM EDT
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The murder rate in Baltimore is 58 per 100,000 people annually.

The murder rate in Ohio is 7 per 100,000 annually.  In rural Ohio it is probably less.
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Don't use facts.  It will confuse him.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 4:09:58 PM EDT
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The "melting pot" idea was created by a British socialist.

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The desire to kill the melting pot and balkanize the USA is in full swing.

The "melting pot" idea was created by a British socialist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_pot


Muh BlAnK sLaTe
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You haven’t met a racist until you have dated a black girl. The mother is the worst, followed by all the young bucks at movie theaters who get pissed at you for stealing a good block woman…. Mind you, it’s ok for them to knock up PAWGs but don’t you dare take one of theirs….
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Believe it or not the most racist people I have ever met in my life are not white. Not even close. Ill leave it at that.



You haven’t met a racist until you have dated a black girl. The mother is the worst, followed by all the young bucks at movie theaters who get pissed at you for stealing a good block woman…. Mind you, it’s ok for them to knock up PAWGs but don’t you dare take one of theirs….


Oh god yes.

First time meeting the family I hear her mom shout “You better not be giving me no white grandbabies.”
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This obsession with chasing black voters is weird and counterproductive. They're poor, their share of the population is dropping, they're responsible for most of the violent crime and disorder, and chasing them only alienates WWC and Hispanics, who are larger, growing, and actually persuadable.

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Here Scott talks to Hotep Jesus.

https://www.youtube.com/live/oeFA-n3SMRw?feature=share

Blacks are just barely on the other side of a paper wall.  They're natural conservatives.  Only a good education stands in their way.  Teacher's unions ARE systemic racism in that they are complete failures.

Blacks should be GOA members.  Gays too.  How the left keeps them mesmerized against their better interests is quite the magic act.


Republicans have done almost nothing to reach out to them.  The right message coming from the right person will bring black voters over in droves.  Trump was much more popular among blacks than the dems will ever admit.  The big cities are never going to flip but the numbers could change in a big way if republicans could make inroads among churchgoing families.  To do that they have to try and they really don't.


This obsession with chasing black voters is weird and counterproductive. They're poor, their share of the population is dropping, they're responsible for most of the violent crime and disorder, and chasing them only alienates WWC and Hispanics, who are larger, growing, and actually persuadable.



Because Evola was right about America - especially post-Civil Rights America?

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Link Posted: 2/26/2023 4:19:47 PM EDT
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He also fought an "affordable housing" development in his community. Dave knows the kind of culture that comes with subsidized housing and doesn't want it either.
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Was going to add that Dave Chappell lives in a rural part of Ohio that is probably all white

He also fought an "affordable housing" development in his community. Dave knows the kind of culture that comes with subsidized housing and doesn't want it either.


Steph Curry too.

Clearly because of internalized white supremacy. /s
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doesn't he have a smoking hot gf half his age?


Wife, but rumor is they are divorcing.

African American?


Nope, basic white bitch, California-born insta-THOT.

THIS 63 YEAR OLD CARTOONIST HAS A 30 YEAR OLD INSTAGRAM MODEL WIFE



Jeez, they have been divorced for a while.  He's now 65, do the math.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 5:27:05 PM EDT
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i think it has had the desired 'Barbara Streisand' effect for him.

His Twitter followers are up, his paid cult members on Locals is up.  Like the numbers on Youtube and podcast downloads are up too.  At least for a while.

He's lapping up the publicity
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Here is another inconsistency you'll see in social debates.

We are supposed to accept that redlining or any historical eminent domain action for infrastructure was fundamentally white supremacy, and not just classism.

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  The last couple of years have really forced me to look at much of the history of the civil rights movement as simply gaslighting for a good cause. Look at the witchita race massacre. Supposedly 300 killed and airplanes used to drop bombs. No matter how much effort is spent no mass graves are ever found, just new headlines that mass graves may have been identified, followed by a dig, followed by nothing. In a 100 years people will actually believe that there was a huge rash of white on Aisan hate crimes in New York and San Fran.
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  The last couple of years have really forced me to look at much of the history of the civil rights movement as simply gaslighting for a good cause. Look at the witchita race massacre. Supposedly 300 killed and airplanes used to drop bombs. No matter how much effort is spent no mass graves are ever found, just new headlines that mass graves may have been identified, followed by a dig, followed by nothing. In a 100 years people will actually believe that there was a huge rash of white on Aisan hate crimes in New York and San Fran.
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Here is another inconsistency you'll see in social debates.

We are supposed to accept that redlining or any historical eminent domain action for infrastructure was fundamentally white supremacy, and not just classism.



  The last couple of years have really forced me to look at much of the history of the civil rights movement as simply gaslighting for a good cause. Look at the witchita race massacre. Supposedly 300 killed and airplanes used to drop bombs. No matter how much effort is spent no mass graves are ever found, just new headlines that mass graves may have been identified, followed by a dig, followed by nothing. In a 100 years people will actually believe that there was a huge rash of white on Aisan hate crimes in New York and San Fran.



Many of those racial events were contrived from the start.....the Rosa Parks incident most notably, did they serve a noble purpose? who knows for sure.
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  The last couple of years have really forced me to look at much of the history of the civil rights movement as simply gaslighting for a good cause. Look at the witchita race massacre. Supposedly 300 killed and airplanes used to drop bombs. No matter how much effort is spent no mass graves are ever found, just new headlines that mass graves may have been identified, followed by a dig, followed by nothing. In a 100 years people will actually believe that there was a huge rash of white on Aisan hate crimes in New York and San Fran.
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Here is another inconsistency you'll see in social debates.

We are supposed to accept that redlining or any historical eminent domain action for infrastructure was fundamentally white supremacy, and not just classism.



  The last couple of years have really forced me to look at much of the history of the civil rights movement as simply gaslighting for a good cause. Look at the witchita race massacre. Supposedly 300 killed and airplanes used to drop bombs. No matter how much effort is spent no mass graves are ever found, just new headlines that mass graves may have been identified, followed by a dig, followed by nothing. In a 100 years people will actually believe that there was a huge rash of white on Aisan hate crimes in New York and San Fran.



The "stop Asian hate" meme died off really quick as more and more videos surfaced, and the public more and more saw that the consistent pattern of ethnicity wasn't the victims, but that of the perpetrators.

Back on topic, that was one of Scott's main points. But he isn't allowed to say that.
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Republicans have done almost nothing to reach out to them.  The right message coming from the right person will bring black voters over in droves.  Trump was much more popular among blacks than the dems will ever admit.  The big cities are never going to flip but the numbers could change in a big way if republicans could make inroads among churchgoing families.  To do that they have to try and they really don't.
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Reach out to them? What does that even mean? What more could possibly be done for them? What more could they possibly be given?
America has created, specifically for them, a society in which it is almost impossible for them to fail. All that is required of them is a modicum of effort.
Honestly, what more is there? We've gone beyond what any society in human history has done to elevate their underclass.
What else is there? Reach out to them... and do... what?
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Look… I’m gonna get in front of this and just say, for the record…. Scott Adams did not kill himself.
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Here Scott talks to Hotep Jesus.

https://www.youtube.com/live/oeFA-n3SMRw?feature=share

Blacks are just barely on the other side of a paper wall.  They’re natural conservatives.  Only a good education stands in their way.  Teacher’s unions ARE systemic racism…in that they are complete failures.

Blacks should be GOA members.  Gays too.  How the left keeps them mesmerized against their better interests is quite the magic act.


It’s not magic and they aren’t retarded. They don’t want to be part of the civil society that is established by WASPs. They want to do exactly what they are doing or they wouldn’t live where they live and vote how they vote.

They want to be paid to vote for someone and they want someone to blame for their actions.

It’s not complicated.

You don’t get up and work and pay taxes and vote for people to use your taxes to keep your community safe and clean because someone tricked you into it.

What makes you think that black peoples choices are the product of deception?


Lying democrat politicians.




You aren’t tricked. I’m not tricked.

The lefties want the juice but not the squeeze. That’s all. It’s a transaction. Nobody is being fooled.

We got fooled by politicians telling us one thing and then doing another.  That’s what Republican politicians s do.

Lefty politicians sell voters your money and offer you up as the Judas goat for their voters to blame for the choices their voters make.

The people buying  want your money and to shit on you.

They already hate us, but with a little help from politicians they get 40% of our wealth too.



Maybe you’re right…
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/1818/64255F71-CC36-4470-9E12-1E51D9AD3066_jpe-2725943.JPG

Yeah. I have accepted that people who say that they are my enemy are my enemy.

I didn’t make them that way. I don’t owe them anything. I can’t change them. I don’t want to. I want them to stay away from me and leave me, and people like me alone.

America is a great big place and there’s room for everyone in it somewhere. If they are coming at me or people like me it’s not by accident or misunderstanding.

I don’t require anything from them. I won’t pretend that they are more than what they are. Honesty is the best policy.

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Reach out to them? What does that even mean? What more could possibly be done for them? What more could they possibly be given?
America has created, specifically for them, a society in which it is almost impossible for them to fail. All that is required of them is a modicum of effort.
Honestly, what more is there? We've gone beyond what any society in human history has done to elevate their underclass.
What else is there? Reach out to them... and do... what?
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Republicans have done almost nothing to reach out to them.  The right message coming from the right person will bring black voters over in droves.  Trump was much more popular among blacks than the dems will ever admit.  The big cities are never going to flip but the numbers could change in a big way if republicans could make inroads among churchgoing families.  To do that they have to try and they really don't.
Reach out to them? What does that even mean? What more could possibly be done for them? What more could they possibly be given?
America has created, specifically for them, a society in which it is almost impossible for them to fail. All that is required of them is a modicum of effort.
Honestly, what more is there? We've gone beyond what any society in human history has done to elevate their underclass.
What else is there? Reach out to them... and do... what?


str8 facts

and to answer your question, I have no idea. I wish I did have an answer.
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Here is another inconsistency you'll see in social debates.

We are supposed to accept that redlining or any historical eminent domain action for infrastructure was fundamentally white supremacy, and not just classism. Because, even though there were plenty of poorer white people and other groups involved in this, it "disproportionately" impacted black people relative to their populations in those cities. As such, you will constantly here the narrative advanced that these things targeted "black neighborhoods" even when there is zero evidence race was on any of the minds of those making the decisions.

This idea that "disproportionately black" can and should be expressed with the shorthand "black" is used in many other contexts, but only in so far as the idea is to paint the residents as victims of systemic racism. In fact, trying to remind people that those policies impactes poor white people as well will be viewed as an attempt (probably rooted in your white privilege) to minimize the reality of white supremacy.

The moment the context changes and, say, someone is arguing for why we need section 8 programs in suburban neighborhoods, you are no longer able to suggest the argument is, at its core, suggesting people are better off not being in black neighborhoods. In these cases. Even suggest this is "racist." Instead, people will go to great pains to point out that the fundamental issue is socioeconomic status and that those areas they don't want section 8 limited to are just incidentally disproportionately black. Of course, the reason those areas are is once again "systemic racism."

Pay attention to these policy debates for any length of time and you will see this inherent inconsistency.



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Was going to add that Dave Chappell lives in a rural part of Ohio that is probably all white



Yellow Springs is more left than San Francisco. Just as NIMBY too.  African Americans in that town only have to fear tripping over the whites bowing down to them to show they aren't part of the straight white male patriarchy. It's a super liberal college town not a racist methbillyburg.


Yes, I think I heard that, but wanted add to the point that plenty of blacks don't want to live in black areas and that the most lefty cities around tend to be pretty damn white but the lefty whites don't talk about that.


Here is another inconsistency you'll see in social debates.

We are supposed to accept that redlining or any historical eminent domain action for infrastructure was fundamentally white supremacy, and not just classism. Because, even though there were plenty of poorer white people and other groups involved in this, it "disproportionately" impacted black people relative to their populations in those cities. As such, you will constantly here the narrative advanced that these things targeted "black neighborhoods" even when there is zero evidence race was on any of the minds of those making the decisions.

This idea that "disproportionately black" can and should be expressed with the shorthand "black" is used in many other contexts, but only in so far as the idea is to paint the residents as victims of systemic racism. In fact, trying to remind people that those policies impactes poor white people as well will be viewed as an attempt (probably rooted in your white privilege) to minimize the reality of white supremacy.

The moment the context changes and, say, someone is arguing for why we need section 8 programs in suburban neighborhoods, you are no longer able to suggest the argument is, at its core, suggesting people are better off not being in black neighborhoods. In these cases. Even suggest this is "racist." Instead, people will go to great pains to point out that the fundamental issue is socioeconomic status and that those areas they don't want section 8 limited to are just incidentally disproportionately black. Of course, the reason those areas are is once again "systemic racism."

Pay attention to these policy debates for any length of time and you will see this inherent inconsistency.





We've had our disagreements in the past but this is right on.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 8:38:48 PM EDT
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Slight off topic, some of you might want to reas up on men like Manning Johnson and also reconsider what you think you know about COINTELPRO.

Oh, and this is always a good read.

The danger here is to realize that the schemings and twisting of the Kremlin does not in any way undermine the legitimacy of the unfair social and legal realities they exploit.

The additional danger is to accept and understand that these processes continue, and have expanded to all groups feeling marginalized, including...

Link Posted: 2/26/2023 8:49:02 PM EDT
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str8 facts

and to answer your question, I have no idea. I wish I did have an answer.
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Republicans have done almost nothing to reach out to them.  The right message coming from the right person will bring black voters over in droves.  Trump was much more popular among blacks than the dems will ever admit.  The big cities are never going to flip but the numbers could change in a big way if republicans could make inroads among churchgoing families.  To do that they have to try and they really don't.
Reach out to them? What does that even mean? What more could possibly be done for them? What more could they possibly be given?
America has created, specifically for them, a society in which it is almost impossible for them to fail. All that is required of them is a modicum of effort.
Honestly, what more is there? We've gone beyond what any society in human history has done to elevate their underclass.
What else is there? Reach out to them... and do... what?


str8 facts

and to answer your question, I have no idea. I wish I did have an answer.
I've heard the "reach out" line before, but it's never explained exactly what that entails.

Link Posted: 2/26/2023 8:53:47 PM EDT
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I've heard the "reach out" line before, but it's never explained exactly what that entails.

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Republicans have done almost nothing to reach out to them.  The right message coming from the right person will bring black voters over in droves.  Trump was much more popular among blacks than the dems will ever admit.  The big cities are never going to flip but the numbers could change in a big way if republicans could make inroads among churchgoing families.  To do that they have to try and they really don't.
Reach out to them? What does that even mean? What more could possibly be done for them? What more could they possibly be given?
America has created, specifically for them, a society in which it is almost impossible for them to fail. All that is required of them is a modicum of effort.
Honestly, what more is there? We've gone beyond what any society in human history has done to elevate their underclass.
What else is there? Reach out to them... and do... what?


str8 facts

and to answer your question, I have no idea. I wish I did have an answer.
I've heard the "reach out" line before, but it's never explained exactly what that entails.


The only thing that makes any sense is literally militarization of black areas and systematically removing anyone who engages in violence or vice.

That’s exactly the opposite of what black communities want.

Black Americans vote 90% for what they want. It’s what they have now, but without cops or any other authority. And according to this poll 50% of them aren’t sure if it’s ok for white people to exist.

It is what it is.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 9:00:02 PM EDT
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Many of those racial events were contrived from the start.....the Rosa Parks incident most notably, did they serve a noble purpose? who knows for sure.
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Here is another inconsistency you'll see in social debates.

We are supposed to accept that redlining or any historical eminent domain action for infrastructure was fundamentally white supremacy, and not just classism.



  The last couple of years have really forced me to look at much of the history of the civil rights movement as simply gaslighting for a good cause. Look at the witchita race massacre. Supposedly 300 killed and airplanes used to drop bombs. No matter how much effort is spent no mass graves are ever found, just new headlines that mass graves may have been identified, followed by a dig, followed by nothing. In a 100 years people will actually believe that there was a huge rash of white on Aisan hate crimes in New York and San Fran.



Many of those racial events were contrived from the start.....the Rosa Parks incident most notably, did they serve a noble purpose? who knows for sure.



Pretty sure there hasn't been any benefit to it in concrete terms, since getting to feel virtuous is abstract, and a lot of detriments. Also pretty sure if the situation had somehow been reversed there would have been no civil rights movement, b/c it would have been brutally suppressed with an unconcerned public, and no civil war, either.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 9:02:13 PM EDT
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Reach out to them? What does that even mean? What more could possibly be done for them? What more could they possibly be given?
America has created, specifically for them, a society in which it is almost impossible for them to fail. All that is required of them is a modicum of effort.
Honestly, what more is there? We've gone beyond what any society in human history has done to elevate their underclass.
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Republicans have done almost nothing to reach out to them.  The right message coming from the right person will bring black voters over in droves.  Trump was much more popular among blacks than the dems will ever admit.  The big cities are never going to flip but the numbers could change in a big way if republicans could make inroads among churchgoing families.  To do that they have to try and they really don't.
Reach out to them? What does that even mean? What more could possibly be done for them? What more could they possibly be given?
America has created, specifically for them, a society in which it is almost impossible for them to fail. All that is required of them is a modicum of effort.
Honestly, what more is there? We've gone beyond what any society in human history has done to elevate their underclass.
What else is there? Reach out to them... and do... what?

Never mind
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 9:10:17 PM EDT
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Some people seem eager to get this thread locked, as well as to justify the unfair accusations against Scott.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 9:11:22 PM EDT
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The only thing that makes any sense is literally militarization of black areas and systematically removing anyone who engages in violence or vice.

That’s exactly the opposite of what black communities want.

Black Americans vote 90% for what they want. It’s what they have now, but without cops or any other authority. And according to this poll 50% of them aren’t sure if it’s ok for white people to exist.

It is what it is.
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Link Posted: 2/26/2023 9:15:38 PM EDT
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I've heard the "reach out" line before, but it's never explained exactly what that entails.

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Republicans have done almost nothing to reach out to them.  The right message coming from the right person will bring black voters over in droves.  Trump was much more popular among blacks than the dems will ever admit.  The big cities are never going to flip but the numbers could change in a big way if republicans could make inroads among churchgoing families.  To do that they have to try and they really don't.
Reach out to them? What does that even mean? What more could possibly be done for them? What more could they possibly be given?
America has created, specifically for them, a society in which it is almost impossible for them to fail. All that is required of them is a modicum of effort.
Honestly, what more is there? We've gone beyond what any society in human history has done to elevate their underclass.
What else is there? Reach out to them... and do... what?


str8 facts

and to answer your question, I have no idea. I wish I did have an answer.
I've heard the "reach out" line before, but it's never explained exactly what that entails.



I think for Scott it is all education based and he pretty much hates the teacher’s unions so vouchers and maybe charter schools.  
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 9:17:18 PM EDT
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Pretty sure there hasn't been any benefit to it in concrete terms, since getting to feel virtuous is abstract, and a lot of detriments. Also pretty sure if the situation had somehow been reversed there would have been no civil rights movement, b/c it would have been brutally suppressed with an unconcerned public, and no civil war, either.
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Here is another inconsistency you'll see in social debates.

We are supposed to accept that redlining or any historical eminent domain action for infrastructure was fundamentally white supremacy, and not just classism.



  The last couple of years have really forced me to look at much of the history of the civil rights movement as simply gaslighting for a good cause. Look at the witchita race massacre. Supposedly 300 killed and airplanes used to drop bombs. No matter how much effort is spent no mass graves are ever found, just new headlines that mass graves may have been identified, followed by a dig, followed by nothing. In a 100 years people will actually believe that there was a huge rash of white on Aisan hate crimes in New York and San Fran.



Many of those racial events were contrived from the start.....the Rosa Parks incident most notably, did they serve a noble purpose? who knows for sure.



Pretty sure there hasn't been any benefit to it in concrete terms, since getting to feel virtuous is abstract, and a lot of detriments. Also pretty sure if the situation had somehow been reversed there would have been no civil rights movement, b/c it would have been brutally suppressed with an unconcerned public, and no civil war, either.


I’m sure that there has been a lot of positive things to come from affirmative action. But I think that its use to artificially reduce the ability of white people to get into schools and careers is destructive.

Expand the pool. It’s crazy that there are capable people being passed over for vital roles in society because of their parentage. We need every professional we can get.

Artificially blocking black peoples contributions to society, when the want to participate is nuts.

Artificially blocking white peoples contributions to society because there aren’t enough black people participating in the pool is nuts. The white people have no control over how black people choose to live.

All that being said this is an equally valid point.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 9:22:48 PM EDT
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It's funny to me how white people who haven't lived around large black populations tend to have different opinions than those of us who have.

I grew up in majority black areas, I went to majority black schools, I worked a few manual labor/construction jobs with majority black coworkers, etc. I've been in numerous fights with blacks that I didn't start, I've been jumped by blacks multiple times, I've had numerous blacks beg for money and get very aggressive when I said no, I've had a black coworker slash my tires, I've had my car broken into no less than six times, I've had valuables I made the mistake of leaving unattended for a few minutes get snatched up (like my fucking toolbox), I've had to deal with routine riots in my area every time a black criminal gets killed, etc.

This isn't even getting into the casual ethno-centrism that's normal among blacks. If they get into a position of power, 9/10 they'll demonstrate an obvious degree of racial nepotism. If there's a disagreement, they'll almost always pick sides on the basis of race, regardless of who's actually right or wrong. If you get into a disagreement with them that goes on long enough, it'll inevitably devolve into you getting called racist. If you're a white guy and you don't automatically bend over to them, they respond with rage and confusion.

This isn't a problem that's going to be fixed. The best solution is to just not live around large black populations.
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This ,    grew up in a city w/ a sizeable black population, lots of problems,  you stayed out of that part of the city .   Lived in two small towns w/ colleges since then , had  black students .    The students act like black teenagers but know absolutely no one will take their shit.
Link Posted: 2/26/2023 10:18:54 PM EDT
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Read Dilbert today in the paper. I was surprised to see it in there. Our paper is very liberal over all.
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I'm sure dude has made fuck you money, but it still takes balls.

He's right.
Link Posted: 2/27/2023 7:22:51 AM EDT
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The left really hates truths.
I am especially glad he is not backing down.    Most of the time, the shrieking left forces weak people to back down and apologize for offending their tender little asses with true statements they don't want to hear.
Link Posted: 2/27/2023 7:27:28 AM EDT
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Growing up in New Orleans, he's right about black people being a hate group.


The ghetto thugs will be overtly racist and hostile. The educated blacks will be clique-ish and stab you in the back.


I get why there is bad blood, but blacks have no desire to get along with whites once they get power.


Link Posted: 2/27/2023 8:25:23 AM EDT
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You haven’t met a racist until you have dated a black girl. The mother is the worst, followed by all the young bucks at movie theaters who get pissed at you for stealing a good block woman…. Mind you, it’s ok for them to knock up PAWGs but don’t you dare take one of theirs….
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Believe it or not the most racist people I have ever met in my life are not white. Not even close. Ill leave it at that.


You haven’t met a racist until you have dated a black girl. The mother is the worst, followed by all the young bucks at movie theaters who get pissed at you for stealing a good block woman…. Mind you, it’s ok for them to knock up PAWGs but don’t you dare take one of theirs….


As a white guy I feel somewhat lucky that a few Asian friends I got closer with gave me a glimpse into their household and mindset when growing up.

They do get a surprising amount of random shit comments from both white and black people while minding their own business, but one buddy of mine grew up in a house with a first generation Chinese father who basically called everyone who wasn't Asian, either a "Black Devil" or a "White Devil".

The other surprising thing to me as a white guy was how much racism there is among Asians for other Asians.  A Korean friend of mine went to work in Taiwan for a while, and everyone at the hotel he was staying at assumed he was just there to do janitorial/menial labor level work- no way a Korean would be there as an engineer doing complex equipment modifications.  That was for Asian races higher in the food chain.


Link Posted: 2/27/2023 8:43:31 AM EDT
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I understand however .

It was a poll, it doesn't represent the entire Black community.

Just another way to widen the divide in America, and he fell for it.

You can't judge gun owners for every shooting no more than you can blame Black Americans for every worldstar video.

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You really don't want to dig into stats RE: blacks.  Crime, education, IQ, health, generational welfare, etc.  You really don't.
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You should pay attention to what he says rather than what other people say about what he says.
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As a white guy I feel somewhat lucky that a few Asian friends I got closer with gave me a glimpse into their household and mindset when growing up.

They do get a surprising amount of random shit comments from both white and black people while minding their own business, but one buddy of mine grew up in a house with a first generation Chinese father who basically called everyone who wasn't Asian, either a "Black Devil" or a "White Devil".

The other surprising thing to me as a white guy was how much racism there is among Asians for other Asians.  A Korean friend of mine went to work in Taiwan for a while, and everyone at the hotel he was staying at assumed he was just there to do janitorial/menial labor level work- no way a Korean would be there as an engineer doing complex equipment modifications.  That was for Asian races higher in the food chain.


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Believe it or not the most racist people I have ever met in my life are not white. Not even close. Ill leave it at that.


You haven’t met a racist until you have dated a black girl. The mother is the worst, followed by all the young bucks at movie theaters who get pissed at you for stealing a good block woman…. Mind you, it’s ok for them to knock up PAWGs but don’t you dare take one of theirs….


As a white guy I feel somewhat lucky that a few Asian friends I got closer with gave me a glimpse into their household and mindset when growing up.

They do get a surprising amount of random shit comments from both white and black people while minding their own business, but one buddy of mine grew up in a house with a first generation Chinese father who basically called everyone who wasn't Asian, either a "Black Devil" or a "White Devil".

The other surprising thing to me as a white guy was how much racism there is among Asians for other Asians.  A Korean friend of mine went to work in Taiwan for a while, and everyone at the hotel he was staying at assumed he was just there to do janitorial/menial labor level work- no way a Korean would be there as an engineer doing complex equipment modifications.  That was for Asian races higher in the food chain.




Asians generally don’t like anyone not their own specific brand of Asian or white. Have never been able to understand why, but that’s how it seems.
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I’m black.  I’m cool with the whites.

That’s my anecdote.

I don’t know how someone can say it’s not OK to be what you were born as.  Seems like a bizarre poll question itself.  Some the generate twitter clicks and outrage
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Agree.  I have always wondered how homosexuals could have it both ways.  They say that being gay is genetic.  And they also say want me to acknowledge their "pride" in being gay.

No.  I don't give anyone special treatment for something that was a chance of birth.  If they make straight "A"s, build a business, produce a respectable family.  I will give props. Respect, and acknowledge achievements.

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As a white guy I feel somewhat lucky that a few Asian friends I got closer with gave me a glimpse into their household and mindset when growing up.

They do get a surprising amount of random shit comments from both white and black people while minding their own business, but one buddy of mine grew up in a house with a first generation Chinese father who basically called everyone who wasn't Asian, either a "Black Devil" or a "White Devil".

The other surprising thing to me as a white guy was how much racism there is among Asians for other Asians.  A Korean friend of mine went to work in Taiwan for a while, and everyone at the hotel he was staying at assumed he was just there to do janitorial/menial labor level work- no way a Korean would be there as an engineer doing complex equipment modifications.  That was for Asian races higher in the food chain.


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I have a close friend that is Vietnamese......he says really bad stuff about Chinese.
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I have quite a few black friends.  I don't live in a segregated city that breeds racism against white black or brown people.  For those of you who think most black people secretly hate you it simply isnt true unless you live in a dominantly black urban area. Same shit as the blatant white racism in most places where there are very few black people and the only exposure to blacks is the crime news they see from urban areas.    If I was a black person in white rural Ohio I'd be just as scared as a white person in Baltimore. If you live somewhere that isn't segregated and monocultural by race you should make efforts to bridge this divide imo.  It's worth it.
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Wow, how on earth did I miss this gem? I'm sorry, but you're going to have to clarify some things for me.

As to the part highlighted in red:
Are you suggesting
A) That the black person in Ohio is in as much danger as the white person in Baltimore?
or
B) That the white person in Baltimore is being as irrational as the black person in Ohio?

As to the part highlighted in blue:
You seem to be saying that blacks hatred of whites comes out when they (blacks) are the dominant majority.
I'm sure you can see how that might not make white people feel better.

As to the part highlighted in green:
As a white person, I am privy to the things that white people say about blacks when there are no blacks around.
Based on my experiences over the last half century or so, the white people most likely to hold negative opinions or views of blacks are the ones who live/grew up around them.
Frankly, it's not even close. Whites I knew who grew up in the city couldn't stand blacks. Many openly hated them... and were not shy about expressing those feelings.
On the other hand, whites from the suburbs where there were few or no blacks, took a more... "liberal"... view. People are people, content of character, we're all human, blah, blah, blah.
Nothing more than some unscientific anecdotal evidence, but that's what I've seen. (Oh, and I can't speak for how whites in rural areas feel. Never lived or worked in one.)

Finally, as to the part highlighted in purple:
While you may have black friends, the bottom line is, you're not black.
What makes you think your black friends are as honest with you as they are with each other?
How would you know how blacks truly feel about... well, anything?



Link Posted: 2/27/2023 9:51:35 AM EDT
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I have nothing to add to this conversation other than my own naivety.

I went into the Army 3 days after HS, as a young isolated farm kid. I had literally never spoke to a black person.

Almost immediately, I was surrounded by other young recruits, about 25% of them black. Although I wasn't "best friends" with all of them, during my time in the Army I had many black friends, a few that remain close 40 years later. I NEVER had a racial issue with any of them.

Imagine my fucking SHOCK when I got out of the Army and slowly realized that blacks were as racist as we (whites) had been accused of. I have noticed that rural blacks are completely different than city blacks.

Just recently I drove from Florida to Michigan and back. It was like a social experiment. Rural blacks at a gas station in southern Georgia acted COMPLETELY different than the ones I met in Atlanta. The folks I met in rural Georgia were just regular folks. I helped one guy back his trailer, chatted with his wife....we were just normal people communicating.

In Atlanta, I was asked for money by a guy who was trying REALLY hard to be scary (LOL). The hotel clerks and people in the restaurant were kinda off....like fake-polite/schemers. Any time we were in a crowd, the vibe was threatening. The glares and stares were odd. I hated it.

I have tried all of my life to consciously NOT be a racist.....having been raised by Archie Bunker type bigots. I have always HEARD that blacks are racist, but experiencing it was kinda disappointing. Back to the woods for me....you folks can have the fucking city.
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