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Originally Posted By vmpglenn: Twitter livestream right before the launch, during which Elon mentioned a 10m extension for Starship. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By vmpglenn: Originally Posted By Utahshooting: Really?? Hadn't heard that reported. Wonder if it's yet another floor for occupant, propellent, or both. I watched a good video that discussed ideas for layout of crew and storage areas on Starship. Imagine a space going "capsule" with more interior volume than the Intl. Space station?!? Where did you hear that? Twitter livestream right before the launch, during which Elon mentioned a 10m extension for Starship. |
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Originally Posted By Chokey: https://i.redd.it/byxbry0wvtva1.jpg View Quote OK, that was funny. |
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The road to Hell is paved with presidential candidates.
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Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FufSrs4XwAMbqoU?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FufSrssXgAgcfyt?format=jpg&name=large https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FufSrsrXsAEJghc?format=jpg&name=large @DK-Prof https://starbaseoutfitters.com/starbase-scale-models/ View Quote Don't tempt me!!! |
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“A real man does not think of victory or defeat. He plunges recklessly towards an irrational death. By doing this, you will awaken from your dreams.” -- Tsunetomo Yamamoto
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Not sure if this has been posted or not.....gives a sense of the amount of debris flying.
[60fps] Rover 2 Cam Survives Armageddon During Launch of Starship Superheavy |
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EP429: Today's lesson - Don't provoke ARFCOM. People will see your butthole.
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FAA Grounds SpaceX Starship Program but it's OK...| Elon to Host Starship Flight 1 Review on Friday |
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Originally Posted By realwar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4VyHMKLEbg View Quote |
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I've seen better riots at Walmart on a black Friday - SrBenelli
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Originally Posted By shooter_gregg: Is that a good source? I tend to discount channels that fit Spacex into their name. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By shooter_gregg: Originally Posted By realwar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4VyHMKLEbg I tend to discount any channels that use computer-generated voices instead of human narrators. |
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[4K] [HEADPHONES] Starship Launch - High Fidelity Audio |
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#NZinforma Launch of the space rocket #SpaceX Starship seen from Bagdad beach in #Matamoros , Mexico. It lifted off successfully from the Boca Chica Space Center, Texas, located less than 40 kilometers NE of the Mexican border city. View Quote
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Good thread
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Spectators watch SpaceX's Starship launch |
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The world's most powerful rocket takes off in 4K 120fps |
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Originally Posted By t75fnaco3pwzhd: I do think its going to be awhile. But I think you guys are expecting a complete repair before the next launch. Like they're going to bring all the infrastructure back to new condition. I think they're going to slap a bandaid on it and keep going. For example, I suspect they'll leave the dents in the tank farm and just weld up holes in place. They've already demonstrated how tough those tanks are. So they'll just plug any holes and keep going. They'll just repair the launch mount in a similar fashion. View Quote |
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If Michelle Obama weren't a man, she'd have a yatch.
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24/365's skidmark
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Fortunately the draw works itself is protected by the tower. Those holes have corresponding holes in the face shielding of the dog house.
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I've seen better riots at Walmart on a black Friday - SrBenelli
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No one cared who I was until I put on the mask
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Originally Posted By Furloaf: Those are outer shells. They're there for insulation but probably prevented the tanks from being damaged or pierced. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Furloaf: Originally Posted By wwace: ADD some pressure and the dents will pop right out. Those are outer shells. They're there for insulation but probably prevented the tanks from being damaged or pierced. One of the LOX tanks appeared to have been pierced |
"It's dangerous to be right when the government is wrong"
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Someone uploaded Elon's pre-launch twitter space.
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KF7WNX If you want a picture of the future, imagine Clownshoes stomping on a human face—for ever.
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Holy cow above graphic gives me that excited feeling deep down like a kid before Christmas.
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Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large View Quote Not a hair on Elon's sack if he doesn't re-brand Starship 2 as Big Chungus. |
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Originally Posted By HermanSnerd:
In reality, those two hot chicks that you just met that want you to come home with them for "a good time", are merely the bait for the huge guy hiding in the closet wearing a Batman suit. |
KF7WNX If you want a picture of the future, imagine Clownshoes stomping on a human face—for ever.
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Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large View Quote This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? |
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname: This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? View Quote They are non-folding structural catch points for the chopsticks. |
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Originally Posted By HermanSnerd:
In reality, those two hot chicks that you just met that want you to come home with them for "a good time", are merely the bait for the huge guy hiding in the closet wearing a Batman suit. |
Originally Posted By CleverNickname: This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CleverNickname: Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? |
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“There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens.”
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname: This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CleverNickname: Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? Why did #SpaceX keep #Starship’s Grid Fins out on ascent? |
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname: This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CleverNickname: Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? They determined it didn't really affect aerodynamics that much. Folding is another thing to break. The best part is no part. SpaceX engineering a summary. |
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Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large View Quote AIUI, 12-meter Starship/SH is still the “unofficially official” next step, after Starship is operational. |
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In regards to the giant crater under the launch pad... could they just pack it full of already cured concrete blocks and pour a reinforced concrete slab over it? Or are they going to have to find a way to keep the high water table from saturating the concrete causing future steam explosions?
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Originally Posted By memsu: They determined it didn't really affect aerodynamics that much. Folding is another thing to break. The best part is no part. SpaceX engineering a summary. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By memsu: Originally Posted By CleverNickname: Originally Posted By elcope:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FumvKTPXgAQwhjd?format=jpg&name=large This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? They determined it didn't really affect aerodynamics that much. Folding is another thing to break. The best part is no part. SpaceX engineering a summary. Yeah, if everything goes right and the rocket stays in the proper AoA. Once it slips out it is very difficult if not impossible to recover. I expect on a a future booster it will have folding grid fins and aft base fins. |
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Preferred Pronoun: Space Lord Mutherfucker
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Originally Posted By CleverNickname: This graphic has the Super Heavy grid fins folded against the body of the rocket, whereas the launch last week had them extended during launch. Does anyone know if they'll only have them extended the whole time during that first launch (sort of like the first flight of a new aircraft design where the landing gear stays down the whole time), or if they'll be extended for all Super Heavy launches? View Quote They are no longer foldable |
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Originally Posted By mort: In regards to the giant crater under the launch pad... could they just pack it full of already cured concrete blocks and pour a reinforced concrete slab over it? Or are they going to have to find a way to keep the high water table from saturating the concrete causing future steam explosions? View Quote My guess-and I did go through engineering a long time ago is that will not work. There is a new tool out that if I remember right uses a blast of heat and something else(pulses of some kind) to cut through solid granite, its basically a mini rocket engine. This rocket is acting very much like that new tool but on such a massive scale nobody knows how to deal with it yet. I have no doubt somebody will figure it out soon. |
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Starship Test Flight 1 // 4K Slow Mo Supercut w/ Tracking and Incredible Audio |
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Starship Launch Aftermath
Starship Launch Aftermath The aftermath of the first Starship Super Heavy launch around the launch complex, shot a couple days after launch once the public road was opened back up. The liftoff on April 20 caused significant damage to the pad, surrounding refuge & even the rocket itself. The rocket proceeded into ascent & Max Q, before tumbling & being self-destructed. |
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I am curious to see what the fix/retrofit for Boca Chica stage 0 will be.
How far along is the launch mount/stage 0 at cape canaveral? I haven't been paying attention. Hopefully they can integrate the lessons learned in Boca Chica there without too much pain. |
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Never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be. - Adm James Stockdale
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Originally Posted By Obo2: There are pins for the catch. They dont fols cause extra weight/complexity and they are most aerodynamic when extended anyway. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Obo2: Originally Posted By dmnoid77: They are non-folding structural catch points for the chopsticks. There are pins for the catch. They dont fols cause extra weight/complexity and they are most aerodynamic when extended anyway. My mistake. May have been thinking of the early versions. |
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Originally Posted By HermanSnerd:
In reality, those two hot chicks that you just met that want you to come home with them for "a good time", are merely the bait for the huge guy hiding in the closet wearing a Batman suit. |
Wednesday Slideshow: Laser Scanner on OLP, SpaceX Starbase, Boca Chica, TX, April 26, 2023 |
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Originally Posted By 1Andy2: I am curious to see what the fix/retrofit for Boca Chica stage 0 will be. How far along is the launch mount/stage 0 at cape canaveral? I haven't been paying attention. Hopefully they can integrate the lessons learned in Boca Chica there without too much pain. View Quote Crews pretty much stopped work on the launch mount at the Cape about 2 months ago to go to BC and help out there with the Starship launch. No telling when they will be back until a rebuild plan is put in place and set in motion at Boca Chica. |
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It's a strange, strange world we live in, Master Jack
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Originally Posted By MtnMusic: IMHO, the closer other programs get to providing viable orbital launch services for the fedgov, the more they are going to tighten the screws down on There's a possibility that Starship may never fly again (at least from a US launch site). View Quote |
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If Michelle Obama weren't a man, she'd have a yatch.
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Originally Posted By Dagger41: Crews pretty much stopped work on the launch mount at the Cape about 2 months ago to go to BC and help out there with the Starship launch. No telling when they will be back until a rebuild plan is put in place and set in motion at Boca Chica. View Quote Yeah, kinda feels like they need to nail down the stage 0 design before they get too far along building stage 0 at canaveral. I don't think NASA will appreciate volkswagen sized concrete chunks landing all over the facility. |
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Never confuse faith that you will prevail in the end—which you can never afford to lose—with the discipline to confront the most brutal facts of your current reality, whatever they might be. - Adm James Stockdale
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Build Site, SpaceX Starbase, Boca Chica, TX April 27, 2023 |
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