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2/22/2019 11:43:40 AM EDT
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Well, he did buy himself a badge in New Mexico.  That sort of encourages corrupt cops by you know, paying them for favors.
2/22/2019 11:44:47 AM EDT
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Yet Trijicon managed to get government business without donating....
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Sadly they did have to take off all the Bible quotes...
2/22/2019 11:47:01 AM EDT
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Pretty confident in BCM, but I have to ask....anyone checked them?
2/22/2019 12:00:06 PM EDT
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Trump donated to Democrats too.

2/22/2019 12:06:53 PM EDT
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I don't support XYZ because they don't do what I like.

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2/22/2019 12:10:51 PM EDT
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2/22/2019 12:15:02 PM EDT
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So surefire wont get any of my money now, streamlight seems to have questionable reliability. So who else is there to buy weapon lights from?
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Arisaka Defense. 100% US made, reliable, innovative ideas. The owner is solidly unwaveringly pro-2a.
2/22/2019 12:15:30 PM EDT
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I’ll still be buying an rc2. Its clone correct. What’s a guy to do? ???????
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@Rothperson87 It's not, the RC1 is.
2/22/2019 12:26:43 PM EDT
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Are there any companies that give a proud “fuck you” to the anti gun people while also not donating behind the scenes?  Who is ACTUALLY for gun rights and has the backbone to say it and mean it?  Who says I won’t give those gun grabbing sons of bitches a penny and really doesn’t?

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Check this one out @big_aug

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=&cycle=&state=&zip=&employ=midway+usa&cand=
2/22/2019 12:27:35 PM EDT
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Wow.  We need to make a master list.
2/22/2019 12:29:11 PM EDT
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Apparently so.
2/22/2019 12:29:56 PM EDT
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Inforce

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O-light

The don't have the same wide spread holster compatibility as Surefire and Streamlight, but you can still find holsters for them.
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Lol gonna protest surefire by buying O-light that’s fucking rich
2/22/2019 12:31:19 PM EDT
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Arisaka Defense. 100% US made, reliable, innovative ideas. The owner is solidly unwaveringly pro-2a.
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So surefire wont get any of my money now, streamlight seems to have questionable reliability. So who else is there to buy weapon lights from?
Arisaka Defense. 100% US made, reliable, innovative ideas. The owner is solidly unwaveringly pro-2a.
Arisaka is run by good people.
2/22/2019 12:32:09 PM EDT
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London Bridge Trading - CEO and Founder both heavily support Democrats.

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?cand=&cycle=&employ=london+bridge+trading&name=&order=desc&sort=D&state=&zip=
2/22/2019 12:38:03 PM EDT
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Trump donated to Democrats too.

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Trump donated to antigun Dems as well. Nearly everyone in a large enough business donates to whoever makes them money, that's the way it works in the system we have. I'm not mad at Trump for it because if you want to make money you play the game. You donate to the people on committees and that have oversight over what you care about.

It's just funny that everyone is freaking out about a few thousand dollars when this stuff goes on every day in much, much larger amounts. We have politicians introducing bills they've never even read that were written by lobbyists simply because the politician was paid to do so.

Does that make a company giving $10k or $15k to antigun politicians OK? Of course not. If you want to not support a company that does that then that's very understandable. Is it that big of a deal in light of what all actually goes on in the cesspool of politics and does this merit outrage? Nope.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. Drain the swamp if you want it fixed, until that's done this is the way things will be. The political class control the strings of power, you want that permit or contract you pay for it.
2/22/2019 12:38:47 PM EDT
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Lol gonna protest surefire by buying O-light that’s fucking rich
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I understand Surefire to be among the most made in america flashlights there are, I dont believe anyone is 100%. However, I understand some on the list above to be quite the contrary, being that they are largely Chinese.
2/22/2019 12:39:54 PM EDT
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I'm seeing way more money being given to Rs at that link.
2/22/2019 1:00:58 PM EDT
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Lol gonna protest surefire by buying O-light that’s fucking rich
Yeah, I'm not sure that protesting 2008 technology by purchasing 2018 technology is a good comparison.

BUT. I'd do it if I hadn't quit buying Surefire a decade ago.
2/22/2019 1:20:19 PM EDT
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2/22/2019 1:21:48 PM EDT
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Are there any companies that give a proud “fuck you” to the anti gun people while also not donating behind the scenes?  Who is ACTUALLY for gun rights and has the backbone to say it and mean it?  Who says I won’t give those gun grabbing sons of bitches a penny and really doesn’t?

I want to buy their shit.
Check this one out @big_aug

https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=&cycle=&state=&zip=&employ=midway+usa&cand=
Well that explains their outrageous shipping costs
2/22/2019 1:56:40 PM EDT
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In this thread we learn what crony capitalism is.
2/22/2019 2:00:17 PM EDT
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I think theres a hidden elephant no one wants to talk about.

All your favorite gun/tactical gear manufacturers would rather sell stuff to the police and military. From their perspective civilians should not have access to firearms.
2/22/2019 2:09:06 PM EDT
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I understand Surefire to be among the most made in america flashlights there are, I dont believe anyone is 100%. However, I understand some on the list above to be quite the contrary, being that they are largely Chinese.
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Exactly, going to them to avoid surefire giving money to democrats is fucking dumb. GD is virtue signaling.
2/22/2019 2:10:40 PM EDT
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Yeah, I'm not sure that protesting 2008 technology by purchasing 2018 technology is a good comparison.

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It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese.
2/22/2019 2:13:48 PM EDT
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It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese.
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I'm sorry, I don't own any Olights, but is China giving money to Democrats who introduce antigun bills?
2/22/2019 2:21:31 PM EDT
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I'm sorry, I don't own any Olights, but is China giving money to Democrats who introduce antigun bills?
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Do you doubt that they are? Please tell me how giving money to Chinese commies that actually want to destroy you is better than American commies.
2/22/2019 2:24:25 PM EDT
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It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese.
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Yeah, I'm not sure that protesting 2008 technology by purchasing 2018 technology is a good comparison.

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It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese.
Order a Chinese light from Amazon. For freedom.

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It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese.
I'm sorry, I don't own any Olights, but is China giving money to Democrats who introduce antigun bills?
I'd bet money on it. We know Chinese money went to the Clinton Foundation, it's not exactly a stretch for them to grease any palm that's held out if a bribe would further their goals. The ChiComs DGAF about our internal laws, rules, or regs unless it benefits them.
2/22/2019 2:49:09 PM EDT
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1-800-828-8809 and ask them. I left a nice message explaining what I was calling for.  Really it was a nice one since I do want someone to call me back.
2/22/2019 2:50:27 PM EDT
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Pretty confident in BCM, but I have to ask....anyone checked them?
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Looks like Paul donated to one Republican
2/22/2019 2:52:54 PM EDT
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100% Republican and the exclusive fundraiser for Nolo.

Already checked twice. From a "putting your money where your mouth is" perspective, Mark LaRue is the gold standard.
well that troll attempt fell flat pretty quickly.
Between a company that donates to Dems, or a guy that can't figure out how to TURN OFF CAPS LOCK WHEN POSTING ON A FORUM I'm lost.
2/22/2019 2:53:57 PM EDT
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They are the gods of flashlights.
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they seem overpriced for flashlights anyway IMO
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How many Yeti stickers do you own?
2/22/2019 2:54:53 PM EDT
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Lol gonna protest surefire by buying O-light that’s fucking rich
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I was just posting other companies. You can but whatever you want.
2/22/2019 2:59:48 PM EDT
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Thanks!! I owe you one Miami!

And thanks again for fighting the good fight in Florida!

@Miami_JBT
2/22/2019 3:01:27 PM EDT
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It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese.
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Yeah, I'm not sure that protesting 2008 technology by purchasing 2018 technology is a good comparison.

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It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese.
I will take the Red Chinese over back stabbing money hungry companies any day.  One of them has principles, whether you agree with them or not, the other will lie to your face and sell you out for a buck.
Who cares where they are made as long as it is a good product.  I switched from an F150 to aTitan HD since Nissan offers the engine I wanted, and ford played stupid games.  Why the hell should I be "loyal"  to someone who tells me to me face I cannot trust them?

We need the guy in the Red suit meme "Give money to china" "Give money to American Company that will turn the USA socialist "
2/22/2019 3:02:28 PM EDT
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Is this just a greasing of the local politician, or ideological support?
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Does it really fucking matter?  The end result is the same, our rights are being curtailed with the financial support of this company...
2/22/2019 3:08:01 PM EDT
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I will take the Red Chinese over back stabbing money hungry companies any day.  One of them has principles, whether you agree with them or not, the other will lie to your face and sell you out for a buck.
Who cares where they are made as long as it is a good product.  I switched from an F150 to aTitan HD since Nissan offers the engine I wanted, and ford played stupid games.  Why the hell should I be "loyal"  to someone who tells me to me face I cannot trust them?

We need the guy in the Red suit meme "Give money to china" "Give money to American Company that will turn the USA socialist "
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Yeah, I'm not sure that protesting 2008 technology by purchasing 2018 technology is a good comparison.

BUT. I'd do it if I hadn't quit buying Surefire a decade ago.
It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese.
I will take the Red Chinese over back stabbing money hungry companies any day.  One of them has principles, whether you agree with them or not, the other will lie to your face and sell you out for a buck.
Who cares where they are made as long as it is a good product.  I switched from an F150 to aTitan HD since Nissan offers the engine I wanted, and ford played stupid games.  Why the hell should I be "loyal"  to someone who tells me to me face I cannot trust them?

We need the guy in the Red suit meme "Give money to china" "Give money to American Company that will turn the USA socialist "
You're really going to hold up the counterfeit capital of the world as an example of honorable and upfront business practices?
2/22/2019 3:12:06 PM EDT
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Both are clean. As is Magpul.

On the other hand, I won't be buying any 5.11 or Tactical Tailor stuff going forward.
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I find it hard to believe Glock doesn't pay European politicians...
2/22/2019 3:12:15 PM EDT
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And yet the majority of their donations are going to Republicans.

2/22/2019 3:13:17 PM EDT
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Trump donated to Democrats too.

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And just like that, a nerve was struck.
2/22/2019 3:14:26 PM EDT
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Outlet50
2/22/2019 3:14:46 PM EDT
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Trump donated to antigun Dems as well. Nearly everyone in a large enough business donates to whoever makes them money, that's the way it works in the system we have. I'm not mad at Trump for it because if you want to make money you play the game. You donate to the people on committees and that have oversight over what you care about.

It's just funny that everyone is freaking out about a few thousand dollars when this stuff goes on every day in much, much larger amounts. We have politicians introducing bills they've never even read that were written by lobbyists simply because the politician was paid to do so.

Does that make a company giving $10k or $15k to antigun politicians OK? Of course not. If you want to not support a company that does that then that's very understandable. Is it that big of a deal in light of what all actually goes on in the cesspool of politics and does this merit outrage? Nope.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. Drain the swamp if you want it fixed, until that's done this is the way things will be. The political class control the strings of power, you want that permit or contract you pay for it.
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Trump donated to Democrats too.

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Trump donated to antigun Dems as well. Nearly everyone in a large enough business donates to whoever makes them money, that's the way it works in the system we have. I'm not mad at Trump for it because if you want to make money you play the game. You donate to the people on committees and that have oversight over what you care about.

It's just funny that everyone is freaking out about a few thousand dollars when this stuff goes on every day in much, much larger amounts. We have politicians introducing bills they've never even read that were written by lobbyists simply because the politician was paid to do so.

Does that make a company giving $10k or $15k to antigun politicians OK? Of course not. If you want to not support a company that does that then that's very understandable. Is it that big of a deal in light of what all actually goes on in the cesspool of politics and does this merit outrage? Nope.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. Drain the swamp if you want it fixed, until that's done this is the way things will be. The political class control the strings of power, you want that permit or contract you pay for it.
All of this sheds light on how fucked this country is.
2/22/2019 3:15:38 PM EDT
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Bingo
2/22/2019 3:16:01 PM EDT
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Donating to both sides to get government contracts makes more business sense than keeping the civilian market happy.

Then again, Trijicon, Aimpoint, Nightforce, LaRue Tactical, Geissele Automatics, Streamlight, and many others have managed to be successful without paying tribute to those that deplore freedom.

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Location, location, location..
2/22/2019 3:16:32 PM EDT
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Yeah, I'm not sure that protesting 2008 technology by purchasing 2018 technology is a good comparison.

BUT. I'd do it if I hadn't quit buying Surefire a decade ago.
It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese.
I will take the Red Chinese over back stabbing money hungry companies any day.  One of them has principles, whether you agree with them or not, the other will lie to your face and sell you out for a buck.
Who cares where they are made as long as it is a good product.  I switched from an F150 to aTitan HD since Nissan offers the engine I wanted, and ford played stupid games.  Why the hell should I be "loyal"  to someone who tells me to me face I cannot trust them?

We need the guy in the Red suit meme "Give money to china" "Give money to American Company that will turn the USA socialist "
You're really going to hold up the counterfeit capital of the world as an example of honorable and upfront business practices?
Compared to what surefire, and others like them, are doing yes I do.    You don't like that I choose China over a democrat?   I voted for Trump so it's not time the first time I've chosen the lesser of two evils.
2/22/2019 3:18:21 PM EDT
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Trump donated to antigun Dems as well. Nearly everyone in a large enough business donates to whoever makes them money, that's the way it works in the system we have. I'm not mad at Trump for it because if you want to make money you play the game. You donate to the people on committees and that have oversight over what you care about.

It's just funny that everyone is freaking out about a few thousand dollars when this stuff goes on every day in much, much larger amounts. We have politicians introducing bills they've never even read that were written by lobbyists simply because the politician was paid to do so.

Does that make a company giving $10k or $15k to antigun politicians OK? Of course not. If you want to not support a company that does that then that's very understandable. Is it that big of a deal in light of what all actually goes on in the cesspool of politics and does this merit outrage? Nope.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. Drain the swamp if you want it fixed, until that's done this is the way things will be. The political class control the strings of power, you want that permit or contract you pay for it.
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Careful... you don't want to upset people's little boy love affair with their Master who likes gun control. This post is all about tearing down a top player, not holding their elected representatives accountable for their actions that have led us to where we are in 2019 with this political mess. They just want Trump daddy to tread harder so they can tell you why bump stocks are stupid. Carry on!
2/22/2019 3:22:39 PM EDT
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Careful... you don't want to upset people's little boy love affair with their Master who likes gun control. This post is all about tearing down a top player, not holding their elected representatives accountable for their actions that have led us to where we are in 2019 with this political mess. They just want Trump daddy to tread harder so they can tell you why bump stocks are stupid. Carry on!
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Trump donated to antigun Dems as well. Nearly everyone in a large enough business donates to whoever makes them money, that's the way it works in the system we have. I'm not mad at Trump for it because if you want to make money you play the game. You donate to the people on committees and that have oversight over what you care about.

It's just funny that everyone is freaking out about a few thousand dollars when this stuff goes on every day in much, much larger amounts. We have politicians introducing bills they've never even read that were written by lobbyists simply because the politician was paid to do so.

Does that make a company giving $10k or $15k to antigun politicians OK? Of course not. If you want to not support a company that does that then that's very understandable. Is it that big of a deal in light of what all actually goes on in the cesspool of politics and does this merit outrage? Nope.

Don't hate the player, hate the game. Drain the swamp if you want it fixed, until that's done this is the way things will be. The political class control the strings of power, you want that permit or contract you pay for it.
Careful... you don't want to upset people's little boy love affair with their Master who likes gun control. This post is all about tearing down a top player, not holding their elected representatives accountable for their actions that have led us to where we are in 2019 with this political mess. They just want Trump daddy to tread harder so they can tell you why bump stocks are stupid. Carry on!
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2/22/2019 3:23:00 PM EDT
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2/22/2019 3:24:19 PM EDT
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I'm Probably going to get shamed for this but, who cares what surefire does behind closed doors? As long as there products are A++ then I don't have a problem. I wasn't a big fan of Kevin Birmingham when he was with AAC but yet I still bought AAC suppressors. Same goes with surefire.

Corruption lurks within everything. Brands, Companies, Organizations, People. We could all Boycott these companies making dirty underhanded decisions, but at the end of the day they're still going to be filthy rich Aholes sipping martinis on there Yachts in the Caribbean.

That's just my view on it.
2/22/2019 3:26:49 PM EDT
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And your point would be?

Does that make up for supporting those that would strip you of your rights? What ratio makes it ok?

3 to 1?
10 to 1?
2/22/2019 3:35:14 PM EDT
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Does that make up for supporting those that would strip you of your rights? What ratio makes it ok?

3 to 1?
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And your point would be?

Does that make up for supporting those that would strip you of your rights? What ratio makes it ok?

3 to 1?
10 to 1?
The point here is the whole system is fucked with this pay to play shit. The bigger picture is to stop voting in fuckers who are bought and paid for. That’s what we should be mad about IMHO. Our entire political system needs a cleansing.

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