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Posted: 2/22/2019 11:43:40 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: well that troll attempt fell flat pretty quickly. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 11:44:47 AM EDT
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BINGO! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yet Trijicon managed to get government business without donating.... |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 11:47:01 AM EDT
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Pretty confident in BCM, but I have to ask....anyone checked them?
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:00:06 PM EDT
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Trump donated to Democrats too.
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:06:53 PM EDT
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I don't support XYZ because they don't do what I like.
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:10:51 PM EDT
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Trump donated to Democrats too. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:15:02 PM EDT
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So surefire wont get any of my money now, streamlight seems to have questionable reliability. So who else is there to buy weapon lights from? |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:15:30 PM EDT
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I’ll still be buying an rc2. Its clone correct. What’s a guy to do? ??????? |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:26:43 PM EDT
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Are there any companies that give a proud “fuck you” to the anti gun people while also not donating behind the scenes? Who is ACTUALLY for gun rights and has the backbone to say it and mean it? Who says I won’t give those gun grabbing sons of bitches a penny and really doesn’t? I want to buy their shit. https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=&cycle=&state=&zip=&employ=midway+usa&cand= |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:27:35 PM EDT
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Wow. We need to make a master list.
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:29:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you unable to read the thread title? |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:29:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Inforce Elzetta O-light The don't have the same wide spread holster compatibility as Surefire and Streamlight, but you can still find holsters for them. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:31:19 PM EDT
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Arisaka Defense. 100% US made, reliable, innovative ideas. The owner is solidly unwaveringly pro-2a. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So surefire wont get any of my money now, streamlight seems to have questionable reliability. So who else is there to buy weapon lights from? |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:32:09 PM EDT
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London Bridge Trading - CEO and Founder both heavily support Democrats.
https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?cand=&cycle=&employ=london+bridge+trading&name=&order=desc&sort=D&state=&zip= |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:38:03 PM EDT
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Are you unable to read the thread title? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump donated to Democrats too.  Trump donated to antigun Dems as well. Nearly everyone in a large enough business donates to whoever makes them money, that's the way it works in the system we have. I'm not mad at Trump for it because if you want to make money you play the game. You donate to the people on committees and that have oversight over what you care about. It's just funny that everyone is freaking out about a few thousand dollars when this stuff goes on every day in much, much larger amounts. We have politicians introducing bills they've never even read that were written by lobbyists simply because the politician was paid to do so. Does that make a company giving $10k or $15k to antigun politicians OK? Of course not. If you want to not support a company that does that then that's very understandable. Is it that big of a deal in light of what all actually goes on in the cesspool of politics and does this merit outrage? Nope. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Drain the swamp if you want it fixed, until that's done this is the way things will be. The political class control the strings of power, you want that permit or contract you pay for it. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:38:47 PM EDT
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Lol gonna protest surefire by buying O-light that’s fucking rich |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 12:39:54 PM EDT
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London Bridge Trading - CEO and Founder both heavily support Democrats. https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?cand=&cycle=&employ=london+bridge+trading&name=&order=desc&sort=D&state=&zip= |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 1:00:58 PM EDT
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Lol gonna protest surefire by buying O-light that’s fucking rich Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Inforce Elzetta O-light The don't have the same wide spread holster compatibility as Surefire and Streamlight, but you can still find holsters for them. BUT. I'd do it if I hadn't quit buying Surefire a decade ago. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 1:20:19 PM EDT
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Well that sucks. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 1:21:48 PM EDT
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Check this one out @big_aug https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=&cycle=&state=&zip=&employ=midway+usa&cand= Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Are there any companies that give a proud “fuck you” to the anti gun people while also not donating behind the scenes? Who is ACTUALLY for gun rights and has the backbone to say it and mean it? Who says I won’t give those gun grabbing sons of bitches a penny and really doesn’t? I want to buy their shit. https://www.opensecrets.org/donor-lookup/results?name=&cycle=&state=&zip=&employ=midway+usa&cand= |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 1:56:40 PM EDT
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In this thread we learn what crony capitalism is.
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Posted: 2/22/2019 2:00:17 PM EDT
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I think theres a hidden elephant no one wants to talk about.
All your favorite gun/tactical gear manufacturers would rather sell stuff to the police and military. From their perspective civilians should not have access to firearms. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 2:09:06 PM EDT
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I understand Surefire to be among the most made in america flashlights there are, I dont believe anyone is 100%. However, I understand some on the list above to be quite the contrary, being that they are largely Chinese. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 2:10:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, I'm not sure that protesting 2008 technology by purchasing 2018 technology is a good comparison. BUT. I'd do it if I hadn't quit buying Surefire a decade ago. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 2:13:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 2:21:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm sorry, I don't own any Olights, but is China giving money to Democrats who introduce antigun bills? |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 2:24:25 PM EDT
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It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yeah, I'm not sure that protesting 2008 technology by purchasing 2018 technology is a good comparison. BUT. I'd do it if I hadn't quit buying Surefire a decade ago. Quoted:
Quoted: It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 2:49:09 PM EDT
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1-800-828-8809 and ask them. I left a nice message explaining what I was calling for. Really it was a nice one since I do want someone to call me back.
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Posted: 2/22/2019 2:50:27 PM EDT
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Pretty confident in BCM, but I have to ask....anyone checked them? 
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Posted: 2/22/2019 2:52:54 PM EDT
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Check Larue. Quoted: 100% Republican and the exclusive fundraiser for Nolo. Already checked twice. From a "putting your money where your mouth is" perspective, Mark LaRue is the gold standard. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 2:53:57 PM EDT
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They are the gods of flashlights. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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they seem overpriced for flashlights anyway IMO |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 2:54:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol gonna protest surefire by buying O-light that’s fucking rich |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 2:59:48 PM EDT
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Lumenfactory.com @dreiwhit They have LED upgrades. And thanks again for fighting the good fight in Florida! @Miami_JBT |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:01:27 PM EDT
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It’s cause olight is made in fucking China and fucking Nancy boys are thinking they’re making a point buying them instead of Surefires. At least they’re made in America and not by the Red Chinese. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Yeah, I'm not sure that protesting 2008 technology by purchasing 2018 technology is a good comparison. BUT. I'd do it if I hadn't quit buying Surefire a decade ago. Who cares where they are made as long as it is a good product. I switched from an F150 to aTitan HD since Nissan offers the engine I wanted, and ford played stupid games. Why the hell should I be "loyal" to someone who tells me to me face I cannot trust them? We need the guy in the Red suit meme "Give money to china" "Give money to American Company that will turn the USA socialist " |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:02:28 PM EDT
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Is this just a greasing of the local politician, or ideological support? The end result is the same, our rights are being curtailed with the financial support of this company...
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:08:01 PM EDT
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I will take the Red Chinese over back stabbing money hungry companies any day. One of them has principles, whether you agree with them or not, the other will lie to your face and sell you out for a buck. Who cares where they are made as long as it is a good product. I switched from an F150 to aTitan HD since Nissan offers the engine I wanted, and ford played stupid games. Why the hell should I be "loyal" to someone who tells me to me face I cannot trust them? We need the guy in the Red suit meme "Give money to china" "Give money to American Company that will turn the USA socialist " Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Quoted: Yeah, I'm not sure that protesting 2008 technology by purchasing 2018 technology is a good comparison. BUT. I'd do it if I hadn't quit buying Surefire a decade ago. Who cares where they are made as long as it is a good product. I switched from an F150 to aTitan HD since Nissan offers the engine I wanted, and ford played stupid games. Why the hell should I be "loyal" to someone who tells me to me face I cannot trust them? We need the guy in the Red suit meme "Give money to china" "Give money to American Company that will turn the USA socialist " |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:12:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Both are clean. As is Magpul. On the other hand, I won't be buying any 5.11 or Tactical Tailor stuff going forward. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:12:15 PM EDT
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And yet the majority of their donations are going to Republicans.
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:13:17 PM EDT
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Are you unable to read the thread title? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump donated to Democrats too. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:14:26 PM EDT
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Outlet50
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:14:46 PM EDT
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Trump donated to antigun Dems as well. Nearly everyone in a large enough business donates to whoever makes them money, that's the way it works in the system we have. I'm not mad at Trump for it because if you want to make money you play the game. You donate to the people on committees and that have oversight over what you care about. It's just funny that everyone is freaking out about a few thousand dollars when this stuff goes on every day in much, much larger amounts. We have politicians introducing bills they've never even read that were written by lobbyists simply because the politician was paid to do so. Does that make a company giving $10k or $15k to antigun politicians OK? Of course not. If you want to not support a company that does that then that's very understandable. Is it that big of a deal in light of what all actually goes on in the cesspool of politics and does this merit outrage? Nope. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Drain the swamp if you want it fixed, until that's done this is the way things will be. The political class control the strings of power, you want that permit or contract you pay for it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Trump donated to Democrats too. Trump donated to antigun Dems as well. Nearly everyone in a large enough business donates to whoever makes them money, that's the way it works in the system we have. I'm not mad at Trump for it because if you want to make money you play the game. You donate to the people on committees and that have oversight over what you care about. It's just funny that everyone is freaking out about a few thousand dollars when this stuff goes on every day in much, much larger amounts. We have politicians introducing bills they've never even read that were written by lobbyists simply because the politician was paid to do so. Does that make a company giving $10k or $15k to antigun politicians OK? Of course not. If you want to not support a company that does that then that's very understandable. Is it that big of a deal in light of what all actually goes on in the cesspool of politics and does this merit outrage? Nope. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Drain the swamp if you want it fixed, until that's done this is the way things will be. The political class control the strings of power, you want that permit or contract you pay for it. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:15:38 PM EDT
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In this thread we learn what crony capitalism is. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:16:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Donating to both sides to get government contracts makes more business sense than keeping the civilian market happy. Then again, Trijicon, Aimpoint, Nightforce, LaRue Tactical, Geissele Automatics, Streamlight, and many others have managed to be successful without paying tribute to those that deplore freedom. Maybe just making a quality product and standing behind your product works? |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:16:32 PM EDT
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You're really going to hold up the counterfeit capital of the world as an example of honorable and upfront business practices? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:18:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump donated to antigun Dems as well. Nearly everyone in a large enough business donates to whoever makes them money, that's the way it works in the system we have. I'm not mad at Trump for it because if you want to make money you play the game. You donate to the people on committees and that have oversight over what you care about. It's just funny that everyone is freaking out about a few thousand dollars when this stuff goes on every day in much, much larger amounts. We have politicians introducing bills they've never even read that were written by lobbyists simply because the politician was paid to do so. Does that make a company giving $10k or $15k to antigun politicians OK? Of course not. If you want to not support a company that does that then that's very understandable. Is it that big of a deal in light of what all actually goes on in the cesspool of politics and does this merit outrage? Nope. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Drain the swamp if you want it fixed, until that's done this is the way things will be. The political class control the strings of power, you want that permit or contract you pay for it. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:22:39 PM EDT
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Careful... you don't want to upset people's little boy love affair with their Master who likes gun control. This post is all about tearing down a top player, not holding their elected representatives accountable for their actions that have led us to where we are in 2019 with this political mess. They just want Trump daddy to tread harder so they can tell you why bump stocks are stupid. Carry on! Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Trump donated to antigun Dems as well. Nearly everyone in a large enough business donates to whoever makes them money, that's the way it works in the system we have. I'm not mad at Trump for it because if you want to make money you play the game. You donate to the people on committees and that have oversight over what you care about. It's just funny that everyone is freaking out about a few thousand dollars when this stuff goes on every day in much, much larger amounts. We have politicians introducing bills they've never even read that were written by lobbyists simply because the politician was paid to do so. Does that make a company giving $10k or $15k to antigun politicians OK? Of course not. If you want to not support a company that does that then that's very understandable. Is it that big of a deal in light of what all actually goes on in the cesspool of politics and does this merit outrage? Nope. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Drain the swamp if you want it fixed, until that's done this is the way things will be. The political class control the strings of power, you want that permit or contract you pay for it. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:23:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: All of this sheds light on how fucked this country is. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:24:19 PM EDT
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I'm Probably going to get shamed for this but, who cares what surefire does behind closed doors? As long as there products are A++ then I don't have a problem. I wasn't a big fan of Kevin Birmingham when he was with AAC but yet I still bought AAC suppressors. Same goes with surefire.
Corruption lurks within everything. Brands, Companies, Organizations, People. We could all Boycott these companies making dirty underhanded decisions, but at the end of the day they're still going to be filthy rich Aholes sipping martinis on there Yachts in the Caribbean. That's just my view on it. |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:26:49 PM EDT
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And yet the majority of their donations are going to Republicans. https://i.ibb.co/4jq4Zw8/IMG-6942.jpg Does that make up for supporting those that would strip you of your rights? What ratio makes it ok? 3 to 1? 10 to 1? |
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Posted: 2/22/2019 3:35:14 PM EDT
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And your point would be? Does that make up for supporting those that would strip you of your rights? What ratio makes it ok? 3 to 1? 10 to 1? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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And yet the majority of their donations are going to Republicans. https://i.ibb.co/4jq4Zw8/IMG-6942.jpg Does that make up for supporting those that would strip you of your rights? What ratio makes it ok? 3 to 1? 10 to 1? |
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