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Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:24:01 PM EDT
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Less heroin and more fentanyl.
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And more fentanyl means more OD deaths....which brings up some other considerations.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:25:16 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:31:42 PM EDT
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Obama will get it for them in Pa-Key-Ston.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:34:52 PM EDT
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Taliban is better at the war on drugs
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Maybe they're just better at war.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:36:21 PM EDT
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Can't the Afghan farmers learn to code instead?
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:36:44 PM EDT
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"... and that's a bad thing!"


Witness the logic of Globohomo and our establishment. There will never be an end to drugs. The Southern border will never be closed.

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“The Taliban is bad because they…cut off the supply of heroin and started killing the pedophiles again!”
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:37:29 PM EDT
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You mean they banned everyone from growing it, except themselves?
There is a difference between maintaining the Rule of Law and brutality.
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You mean they banned everyone from growing it, except themselves?
There is a difference between maintaining the Rule of Law and brutality.




That is rule of law.

It either involves the threat of brutality or the use of brutality
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:38:04 PM EDT
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Sounds like a neocon wet dream.

Re-invade to reestablish production, then invade China to provide a market.
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Uh they don’t need to invade anywhere for the market. They got the biggest one here in the good old USA.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:38:58 PM EDT
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You can't stop the signal, Mal.


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Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:39:19 PM EDT
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Just makes fentenyl that much cheaper in comparison.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:40:28 PM EDT
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Have they eradicated anally gang-raping young boys?  Because I remember that being a thing with U.S. allies.
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Funny story, the Taliban actually rose to power in the 90s and stopped that practice. It experienced a resurgence when the US refused to stop it for fear of alienating the Afghans.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:41:16 PM EDT
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Damn, the last thing we need is to cutoff the supply of heroin.

Popular music is bad enough as it is, and a big part of that is musicians and songwriters not using heroin anymore.

If you remove all of the classic albums going back to the 60’s that weren’t written by some heroin addict, you are left with some really cheesy, bottom of the barrel pop.

Think Rebecca Black ‘Friday’.

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Or anything by Taylor Swift.

Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:41:27 PM EDT
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Had enough of Bydone yet?
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:43:33 PM EDT
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Whoever wrote that article is a complete fucking putz
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:43:51 PM EDT
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It's not hard to win if you're willing to put dealers and smugglers to a swift death sentence.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:45:55 PM EDT
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They don't worry about pesky things like due process, and such.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:47:33 PM EDT
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It's not hard to push a narrative when your country is a mostly unaccountable tribal shithole. It's cute that the Taliban is saying this. I'd bet 99% of Afghanis are still smoking hashish.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 8:49:02 PM EDT
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Sounds like a neocon wet dream.

Re-invade to reestablish production, then invade China to provide a market.
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Link Posted: 8/16/2023 9:00:21 PM EDT
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Are Poppy's that difficult to grow that it only works in that region?  Or is some other entrepreneurial country going to fill the need?  I guess with fentanyl the market is smaller.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 9:00:52 PM EDT
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"... and that's a bad thing!"


Witness the logic of Globohomo and our establishment. There will never be an end to drugs. The Southern border will never be closed.

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When you have a giant apparatus dedicated to stopping the flow of drugs, the flow of drugs must be maintained. Governments seek first and foremost to maintain their own existences, and they do this through maintenance of the status quo.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 9:01:24 PM EDT
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It's not hard to push a narrative when your country is a mostly unaccountable tribal shithole. It's cute that the Taliban is saying this. I'd bet 99% of Afghanis are still smoking hashish.
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Don't know man, every journalist seems to verify the claims.
https://www.voanews.com/a/taliban-s-war-on-drugs-going-strong-for-now-/7219105.html

I'm inclined to believe it, and I say good for them.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 9:02:18 PM EDT
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People will just grow it somewhere else.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 9:06:59 PM EDT
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Don't know man, every journalist seems to verify the claims.
https://www.voanews.com/a/taliban-s-war-on-drugs-going-strong-for-now-/7219105.html

I'm inclined to believe it, and I say good for them.
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Interesting.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 9:10:43 PM EDT
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That last part is important. For the progressives to rule, they need people to be poor enough to be dependent on government for their existence, but not so desperate that they start to blame the government for their problems. They also benefit from mass addiction to stupifying substances. They NEED those poppy fields. They just can't say it out loud.
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I guess they fucked themselves by putting the Taliban in charge again.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 9:14:10 PM EDT
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Bingo,we have a winner.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 9:17:51 PM EDT
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Bingo,we have a winner.
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Bingo,we have a winner.


They definitely aren't involved in smuggling fentanyl into the US with the cartels!
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 10:05:49 PM EDT
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It's not hard to push a narrative when your country is a mostly unaccountable tribal shithole. It's cute that the Taliban is saying this. I'd bet 99% of Afghanis are still smoking hashish.
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According to the article:

"Satellite imagery analyzed by Alcis and associated research by David Mansfield, an independent researcher who has conducted extensive fieldwork and analysis on Afghanistan's opium sector and rural economy for more than a quarter-century, show that the Taliban opium ban, announced in April 2022, has been remarkably successful in sharply reducing opium poppy cultivation. In Helmand, by far Afghanistan's largest opium-producing province, the area of poppy cultivation was cut from over 129,000 hectares (ha) in 2022 to only 740 ha as of April 2023. The reduction in Nangarhar, another long-standing opium producing province, is also impressive   only 865 ha this year compared to over 7,000 ha in 2022."
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 10:08:14 PM EDT
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According to the article:

"Satellite imagery analyzed by Alcis and associated research by David Mansfield, an independent researcher who has conducted extensive fieldwork and analysis on Afghanistan's opium sector and rural economy for more than a quarter-century, show that the Taliban opium ban, announced in April 2022, has been remarkably successful in sharply reducing opium poppy cultivation. In Helmand, by far Afghanistan's largest opium-producing province, the area of poppy cultivation was cut from over 129,000 hectares (ha) in 2022 to only 740 ha as of April 2023. The reduction in Nangarhar, another long-standing opium producing province, is also impressive   only 865 ha this year compared to over 7,000 ha in 2022."
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I missed the satellite imagery part. Makes sense now.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 10:12:18 PM EDT
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They’re willing to do things we are not.
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That gap is pretty close
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 10:14:15 PM EDT
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So we were the baddies?
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 10:17:59 PM EDT
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its interesting because american intervention in afghanistan resulted in the country becoming the largest exporter of heroin. the taliban banned it before, but supposedly used the income for some period of time and apparently are banning it again. chopping peoples heads off to convince them not to be in the illegal drug business is apparently effective. imagine if every drug dealer captured was taken to the football (not soccer) field in this country and beheaded during public events.... might win the war on drugs. might put a cramp on places like kengsington pa..
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 10:22:29 PM EDT
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How're you going to stop them?
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If poor people are making money at something, even if it's illegal and harmful and generally considered "bad" by the rest of the planet, we must allow them to continue doing that thing.
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How're you going to stop them?



I'd introduce some fentanyl.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 10:27:04 PM EDT
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No mention of the democrat led international war on women?
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 10:28:11 PM EDT
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Funny story, the Taliban actually rose to power in the 90s and stopped that practice. It experienced a resurgence when the US refused to stop it for fear of alienating the Afghans.
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Have they eradicated anally gang-raping young boys?  Because I remember that being a thing with U.S. allies.

Funny story, the Taliban actually rose to power in the 90s and stopped that practice. It experienced a resurgence when the US refused to stop it for fear of alienating the Afghans.


The Taliban seems less and less nutty by the day, in comparison to Globohomo acolytes.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 10:31:06 PM EDT
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Opium jonesing intensifies.

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Link Posted: 8/16/2023 10:46:45 PM EDT
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Opium is a store of value.  Its like stockpiling gold, except its bricks of opium.  The rich and powerful have large stockpiles of opium.  After all, they are the ones in the export business.  Not some simple illiterate farmer working 20 acres of poppies to feed his family.  
Production traditionally exceeds what they can export.  So, reduce new supply, demand remains the same, and guess what, the price of the commodity goes up.  Meanwhile, only poor farmers are adversely impacted by a new prohibition on growing.    

Big picture, its a huge immediate win for the warlords and the Taliban's financial backers in Afghan and Paki.  Best thing that has happened for them since the last prohibition when the Taliban was in charge.  They become richer and more powerful, and the people are reduced to absolute poverty.  

Absolute poverty means none of the kids go to "real" school.  The only school opportunity is a religious madrassa.  Where they read only the Koran and related texts, and grow up to be Taliban.  Taught to hate to the West and the modern world.  So, the Taliban wins too.  

Just because they primitive, and shit in a hole, that does not mean they are stupid.  They are very clever, and understand full well the impacts of policy decisions like this.  And, its not to form a new agrarian economy focused upon feeding the nation or legal exports.  Its to insure a long term theocracy that the rich and powerful can exploit.
Link Posted: 8/16/2023 10:49:56 PM EDT
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For all their barbarity You must admit that Cutting off Hands & Heads does send a pretty clear message.

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Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:02:21 AM EDT
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Fentanyl is 100% synthetic.  Same as Demerol and Propoxyphene.

Morphine and Codeine are 100% natural and make up a percentage of opium.

Heroin (diacetylmorphine) is semi-synthetic.  Start with a natural opioid and modify it to be more potent.  Same as Dilauded, oxycodone, etc.
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@c-4 - So Chynuh is shipping the chemicals to the cartels to make the stuff?
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:02:58 AM EDT
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According to the article:

"Satellite imagery analyzed by Alcis and associated research by David Mansfield, an independent researcher who has conducted extensive fieldwork and analysis on Afghanistan's opium sector and rural economy for more than a quarter-century, show that the Taliban opium ban, announced in April 2022, has been remarkably successful in sharply reducing opium poppy cultivation. In Helmand, by far Afghanistan's largest opium-producing province, the area of poppy cultivation was cut from over 129,000 hectares (ha) in 2022 to only 740 ha as of April 2023. The reduction in Nangarhar, another long-standing opium producing province, is also impressive   only 865 ha this year compared to over 7,000 ha in 2022."
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It's not hard to push a narrative when your country is a mostly unaccountable tribal shithole. It's cute that the Taliban is saying this. I'd bet 99% of Afghanis are still smoking hashish.
According to the article:

"Satellite imagery analyzed by Alcis and associated research by David Mansfield, an independent researcher who has conducted extensive fieldwork and analysis on Afghanistan's opium sector and rural economy for more than a quarter-century, show that the Taliban opium ban, announced in April 2022, has been remarkably successful in sharply reducing opium poppy cultivation. In Helmand, by far Afghanistan's largest opium-producing province, the area of poppy cultivation was cut from over 129,000 hectares (ha) in 2022 to only 740 ha as of April 2023. The reduction in Nangarhar, another long-standing opium producing province, is also impressive   only 865 ha this year compared to over 7,000 ha in 2022."


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Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:14:13 AM EDT
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They're just more committed to results.
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They're just more committed to results.

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Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:16:25 AM EDT
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Less heroin and more fentanyl.
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That was my first thought.  Don’t worry, addicts. China has this shit on lock!
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:18:38 AM EDT
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The same place that the US gets it’s amphetamines for making ADD meds. A lab.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:22:37 AM EDT
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Obama will get it for them in Pa-Key-Ston.
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Obama will get it for them in Pa-Key-Ston.


Probably through the embassy secured by the Marine Corpse
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:23:49 AM EDT
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More like complete ban except for Taliban owned fields and crops!

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This was my other first thought. I thought the taliwackers used poppies to fund the organization.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:27:06 AM EDT
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We could be better at it too if we secured the border and rounded up all Cartel members that have spread out amongst the states.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:30:33 AM EDT
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We built girls' schools while allowing our native allies to butt fuck underage boys and only half-heartedly suppressed opium production.

Taliban burns down the girls' schools, bans pederasty & heroin.  50/50?
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:44:57 AM EDT
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40 years after the fall of Saigon, you see American vets moving there to retire.

Maybe 40 years from now, Afghanistan will be the same.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:49:56 AM EDT
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Cause it's actually a WAR. not just a marketing slogan
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 12:54:10 AM EDT
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I mean.. any legit organization could get a lot of shit done operating under the Taliban's ROE.
Link Posted: 8/17/2023 1:21:53 AM EDT
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