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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:38:47 PM EDT
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What about the Cranberries singer? |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:38:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ETA: you also don't know if he wasn't prescribed in another country by a physician there. Again, he probably didn't know about the drug interactions. |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:41:34 PM EDT
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@NavyDoc1 This is something I've learned over the past year or so. That combo right there is what seems to kill most people - not the prescription opiates alone. It seems like just about every time you really look into it, they're also taking prescribed benzos. Really sad. I'm not a doctor, so I'll ask you - is this something doctors should be really thinking carefully about? As in, should this prescribed combo be extremely rare to non-existent? |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:47:20 PM EDT
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Damn, that's some bad shit he mixed. Accident, suuuuuuuuuurrre it was. I think he (and his doc if this was all prescribed) had just worked himself up to a dose where the difference between "works/feels good" and "dead" was very narrow. In the end, that "therapeutic window" closed to zero. |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:47:24 PM EDT
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Damn, that's some bad shit he mixed. Accident, suuuuuuuuuurrre it was. |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:48:54 PM EDT
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Yeah, considering he didn't get that acetylfentenyl from any doctor. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Damn, that's some bad shit he mixed. Accident, suuuuuuuuuurrre it was. |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:50:20 PM EDT
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ZFG
...what he loved. |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:51:14 PM EDT
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ZFG ...what he loved. |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:52:34 PM EDT
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I wonder how many of those drugs ol Tom had a legit prescription for and which ones were 'acquired.'
I've only seen Fentanyl patches on old folks and cancer patients. Junkies like to chew on them, I've pulled them out of code patients' mouths a few times over the years. |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:52:51 PM EDT
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That's a shame. I have fond memories of seeing him live.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TDdKeb_94Q
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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:53:49 PM EDT
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The ironic thing is that everyone says that during the heyday of the Heartbreakers in the 70s and 80s he was as clean as a whistle with respect to drugs. Didn't pick up the habit until sometime in the 1990s when he went through a divorce. |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:55:21 PM EDT
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He knew more about drugs than most MDs. I don't blame the drugs, he knew exactly what he was doing.
He lived, hard, fast and was rock and rolling to the end. He killed himself. RIP Mr Petty. |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:56:01 PM EDT
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Hmmmm! I never got the “accidental” part of an overdose figured out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What constitutes a "Massive" accidentally drug OD? They get a fentanyl patch that is a long term timed release drug. As the term gets toward the end of a release cycle, the patient starts to feel pain. They have a bunch of pain relievers, heavy duty stuff, so they take a prescribed dose. So now they have a heavy load of other opioids on board and their fentanyl patch dumps a dose. Goodnight Gracie. |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 10:59:05 PM EDT
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Who the fuck takes fentanyl and oxy for emphysema? Isn't that a little overkill?
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Posted: 1/19/2018 11:03:20 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2018 11:04:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: well like i already posted, sounds like a misuse of legal prescription drugs. if you are implying street drugs, in todays world aint nobody got the details worked and and it aint happening. as long as dealers get fentanyl and carfentanyl and add that crap to everything including fake vicodin, percoset, powder (heroin) and even cocaine, you buy powder of pills off the street you are playing russian roulette. down here in ga they had 3 farily well off folks kick off one weekend each at home when they snorted what they thought was coke, but it was either coke cut with fentanyl or fentanyl doctored to look like coke. then there are the folks getting what they think are vicodin tabs and its fake with fentanyl and they are drt. and i dont see how this shit is gonna stop. carfentanyl is so potent you could probably smuggle enough in a thousand ways to make money. |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 11:04:39 PM EDT
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Fentanyl too I think, possible suicide. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What about the Cranberries singer? |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 11:12:15 PM EDT
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life can be really hard, hope he found his peace
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Posted: 1/19/2018 11:12:41 PM EDT
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What about the Cranberries singer? |
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Posted: 1/19/2018 11:59:32 PM EDT
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I wonder how many of those drugs ol Tom had a legit prescription for and which ones were 'acquired.' I've only seen Fentanyl patches on old folks and cancer patients. Junkies like to chew on them, I've pulled them out of code patients' mouths a few times over the years. It sucks to lose anyone to abuse of these drugs, but they have a legitimate use and some people really need them. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 12:59:03 AM EDT
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Down he goes for all the wrong reasons.
Between this and Chris Cornell, f$$$ 2017. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:04:05 AM EDT
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No cares.Play dumb,die dumb
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:05:47 AM EDT
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Wow, that's really weird. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Like to expand on that? It is a shame if he did "accidentally" OD when he did that he did not want even a bit of his final days to be spent with his family and grandchildren. Sad for them, knowing all Dad/Grandpa's talk of looking forward to being able to spend time with the family off the road once he retired for good was just so much talk, and the drugs would win so quickly. What a shame. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:07:10 AM EDT
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Now only if his music was actually good.
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:07:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:10:23 AM EDT
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Rock n Roll
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:12:29 AM EDT
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One of the very few musicians I wish I could have seen live.
Despite the drugs and all. Just cause. 80's 90's Music. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:28:58 AM EDT
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Accidental prescription opioid overdoses usually occur with people who have a ton of prescriptions and a whole lot of pain. They get a fentanyl patch that is a long term timed release drug. As the term gets toward the end of a release cycle, the patient starts to feel pain. They have a bunch of pain relievers, heavy duty stuff, so they take a prescribed dose. You are never supposed to mix any other opioid and fentanyl. So now they have a heavy load of other opioids on board and their fentanyl patch dumps a dose. Goodnight Gracie. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What constitutes a "Massive" accidentally drug OD? They get a fentanyl patch that is a long term timed release drug. As the term gets toward the end of a release cycle, the patient starts to feel pain. They have a bunch of pain relievers, heavy duty stuff, so they take a prescribed dose. You are never supposed to mix any other opioid and fentanyl. So now they have a heavy load of other opioids on board and their fentanyl patch dumps a dose. Goodnight Gracie. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:34:56 AM EDT
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Damnit TMZ just reported it. It usually takes MSM a little bit to catch up. 
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:35:29 AM EDT
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The question is not, how did Tom Petty die, but rather, how in the fuck did he live that long?
That's enough shit to sit 6 elephants on their fucking asses. Here's your sign, Tommy!! |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:39:00 AM EDT
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The ironic thing is that everyone says that during the heyday of the Heartbreakers in the 70s and 80s he was as clean as a whistle with respect to drugs. Didn't pick up the habit until sometime in the 1990s when he went through a divorce. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:41:54 AM EDT
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He was talking about his life and career and band mates as though it was past tense... like he was already gone. It was all very positive and one of the best shows I've ever seen... But he spent at least 5 minutes per band member explaining his relationship with them, how they met, etc... they were the words of a very appreciative, dying man who had nothing else to prove. I'll cherish that show forever as I knew it was his goodbye. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Like to expand on that? |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:46:01 AM EDT
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I love TP regardless.
Still just as sorry he is gone. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:56:21 AM EDT
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I've been in drug houses in East Cleveland were the big time dealers (The walking talking exigent circumstance mortherfuckers) would have a prepacked bags ready to go called the HDC (HEAVY DUTY CONCOCTION). Heroin, Dilaudid, Cocaine, mixed into I believed an $80 bag. They'd even wrapped a fresh clean rig (needle) around the bag with a tourniquet holding everything together so you had everything to need to find a Wendy's bathroom and make it their problem.
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Posted: 1/20/2018 1:57:24 AM EDT
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What constitutes a "Massive" accidentally drug OD? Sad to learn he had so many medical issues, but time, bad moves, & bad luck are another kind of toxic cocktail. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 2:07:57 AM EDT
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I miss him.
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Posted: 1/20/2018 2:27:19 AM EDT
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The big question is how he made it so long. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 2:29:28 AM EDT
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"Accidental?"
 Do we have "Accidental" DUI's where the drunks "Accidentally" drink the fuckin' liquor? And how does that differ exactly from the intentional and deliberate use of drugs? I liked the guy's music for sure. Very gifted artist. However he will go down in my book as another fucking shithead. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 4:03:14 AM EDT
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Very sad. I like his music. I almost overdosed just reading that list of shit he was on.
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Posted: 1/20/2018 4:34:30 AM EDT
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Good Lord, he was taking all that? He was the walking dead and his brain just caught up.
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Posted: 1/20/2018 4:38:31 AM EDT
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Spend more time with post-op patients for whom dilaudid in a PCA might as well be saline. After a day of agony and delusions they slapped a fentanyl patch on me, put me back on morphine, and thank god for it. Last thing I remembered after they switched me was being very apologetic to everyone in the room but that I was very tired and then finally being able to sleep. It sucks to lose anyone to abuse of these drugs, but they have a legitimate use and some people really need them. When I had back surgery it was one of those times where it "shouldn't" be that bad, but even as they were pumping me full of dilaudid I was ready for death. Out patent surgery turned into 3 days in the hospital to get my pain under control. From what i remember we never did fentanyl though because i was also taking muscle relaxers and using valium as a muscle relaxer/to keep me calm. Could be wrong though, those few days are pretty fussy. so i absolutely agree that these drugs have a very legitimate use. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 5:21:25 AM EDT
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I'd shit talk the edgelords but I know I did WAY worse in the STP threads. And every FFDP thread. And at any mention of Nickleback. And A7X...
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Posted: 1/20/2018 6:16:16 AM EDT
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Tom's autopsy report shows the singer was on several pain meds, including Fentanyl patches, oxycodone, temazepam, alprazolam, citalopram, acetylfentanyl and despropionyl fentanyl. The reason doctors prescribed the meds was because of a number of medical problems, including emphysema, knee problems and a fractured hip. Opiates strike again |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 8:28:16 AM EDT
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Now only if his music was actually good. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 10:13:18 AM EDT
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He didn't inject marijuana? 
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Posted: 1/20/2018 10:16:18 AM EDT
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Breaking news when a rock star dies from other than an OD.
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Posted: 1/20/2018 10:17:44 AM EDT
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pretty sure we all knew that even though it wasn't confirmed. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 11:32:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It’s called a drug addiction. None of those drugs are indicated for any of his listed issues. It is too bad, I enjoyed his music. I wish he hadn’t gone out that way. Developed into a full on break. Probably a little painful. |
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Posted: 1/20/2018 11:41:50 AM EDT
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Well, thats usually what happens to druggies.
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Posted: 1/20/2018 11:53:47 AM EDT
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I am sure there were other problems.
I saw Tom Petty drink an entire 1.75 liter bottle of Jack Daniels in concert once. 
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