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Posted: 2/21/2024 6:26:38 PM EDT
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Jumping back into carnivore next week.
Put on a lot of weight over the holidays that never came off. I am a sweets addict Did Carnivore for 30 days last year and felt amazing. |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 6:41:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lucky-Charm: I have watched the congressional hearings on adopting the pyramid and doctor after doctor said you are going to kill people and congress basically said yeah, but we are going to save quite a bit of money on food stamp programs. Question everything. The food pyramid is run by the Ag Dept trying to sell more of their farmers' grain. There are any books and articles on how the vegetarians on McGovern's staff started the whole mess in 1977 and it has been with us ever since. "Big Fat Surprise" is a GREAT book on this. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2024 6:43:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zeekh: I've read that many olive oil contain rape seed oli. Best source for olive oil is California. They have to be pure olive oil. Yes, many countries have different standards for "pure" or EEVO olive oil. You need to be careful about brands. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2024 6:51:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USCG_CPO: First let me apologize in case this has already been answered but I didn't read all 12 pages. You all seem to have good results with this diet and I wouldn't mind trying it. Are there some simple instructions or a site with simple rules to explain it so I don't have to read an entire book? Thanks Here you go: https://www.dietdoctor.com/se/wp-content/2014/10/no_sugar_no_starch_diet.pdf I would strongly recommend skipping anything (or as much as you can) with seed oils, including peanut oil. If you want to go full carnivore, skip the salad and veggies as well. |
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Posted: 2/21/2024 6:56:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/21/2024 7:37:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Merlin]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USCG_CPO: First let me apologize in case this has already been answered but I didn't read all 12 pages. You all seem to have good results with this diet and I wouldn't mind trying it. Are there some simple instructions or a site with simple rules to explain it so I don't have to read an entire book? Thanks  CARNIVORE Diet (Beginner's Guide) All You Need to Get Started - 2024  Carnivore Diet Checklist [Tips to start a Carnivore Diet] 2024  Carnivore For Beginners: How To Start A Carnivore Diet with Tips, Tricks, and Common Pitfalls That should get you started. I like the Dr. Berry videos because he doesn't waste time and he's organized, usually around lists. Each of his points has a definite beginning and definite ending and he doesn't just drone on and on and on like so many other YTers. |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2024 11:11:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: J4C3]
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Finished reading Starting Strength, and started the workouts this week. I'm surprised how well I'm recovering on carnivore diet. Normally my muscles feel shredded after restarting a strength plan, but nothing this time.
Next challenge is to eat 4500 calories each day. Planning to grind whole prime briskets for ~70/30 mix, and eat 3 lbs per day. Probably add a few eggs as well. Also quit electrolyte drink mix this week. The 5mg boron per day helps absorb electrolytes so well that salting meat is enough now. Excessive magnesium is not fun. |
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MH, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2024 3:30:53 PM EDT
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I think I'm developing an auto-immune disorder so I've been transitioning into this for a couple weeks. My wife decided to try too for other symptoms.
I've always just pan fried my steaks and burgers and such but with so much more cooking it's already getting old cleaning my cast iron and grease splatter from so much pan frying. I've never had a grill so I dunno what I should actually get. I don't need anything huge. Just enough for 3 people, several times per week or possibly daily. Mostly steaks (regular 1" ribeyes but also thinner breakfast style ones too), burger patties, various types of chicken, boneless ribs, pork steaks and chops, etc. I liked the idea of the Recteq Bullsye 350 but it's probably slower than I'd want for the vast majority of my daily cooking. I want to cook up a steak or burgers within a few minutes like I can do on my gas range in cast iron pans. Afterwards I don't want to clean a bunch of shit for longer than it took to cook and eat it. Do I just get a plain old, boring gas grill big enough for the amounts we'll cook each day? Or is a Blackstone-type griddle what I'm looking for since that will just be like a huge pan fryer to use outside? |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 3:34:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FaygoJoe: I think I'm developing an auto-immune disorder so I've been transitioning into this for a couple weeks. My wife decided to try too for other symptoms. I've always just pan fried my steaks and burgers and such but with so much more cooking it's already getting old cleaning my cast iron and grease splatter from so much pan frying. I've never had a grill so I dunno what I should actually get. I don't need anything huge. Just enough for 3 people, several times per week or possibly daily. Mostly steaks (regular 1" ribeyes but also thinner breakfast style ones too), burger patties, various types of chicken, boneless ribs, pork steaks and chops, etc. I liked the idea of the Recteq Bullsye 350 but it's probably slower than I'd want for the vast majority of my daily cooking. I want to cook up a steak or burgers within a few minutes like I can do on my gas range in cast iron pans. Afterwards I don't want to clean a bunch of shit for longer than it took to cook and eat it. Do I just get a plain old, boring gas grill big enough for the amounts we'll cook each day? Or is a Blackstone-type griddle what I'm looking for since that will just be like a huge pan fryer to use outside? Get a small Blackstone. You just basically scrape the left overs into a disposable tin in the back and hit it with a paper towel. Pretty easy |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 2/22/2024 8:23:27 PM EDT
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Blackstone or similar griddle.
The fry pan is a fight. Generally cooks well but grease floats in the air. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 8:46:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By USCG_CPO: First let me apologize in case this has already been answered but I didn't read all 12 pages. You all seem to have good results with this diet and I wouldn't mind trying it. Are there some simple instructions or a site with simple rules to explain it so I don't have to read an entire book? Thanks Meat, eggs, and cheese. That’s it. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 8:47:28 PM EDT
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I would get a propane grill. Blackstone is great but a one trick pony.
With the grill you can get a cast plate if you want to sear. |
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Posted: 2/22/2024 8:50:41 PM EDT
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Thanks for the replies/info. It seems almost stupid simple so I should be able to do it
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Posted: 2/22/2024 11:29:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/23/2024 12:15:58 AM EDT
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They are fine if you're sick...
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Posted: 2/23/2024 1:11:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lucky-Charm: They are fine if you're sick... I don’t know about “sick,” but I do sometimes have a sore throat that comes and goes and can result in me going through a pack of 45 in 5-7 days. If that’s an issue (especially in the first month), I guess I could try one of the stronger brands that taste less like candy and more like cleaning chemicals. |
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Posted: 2/23/2024 3:45:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Would these cough drops be okay? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/IMG_6662_jpeg-3138302.JPG The main issue being that small dribbles eventually add up to a lot crap if you're combining it with additives in other processed 'foods' that you're consuming in a day. Anything besides just the stuff on the BBB&E diet will generally have stuff you came to carnivore trying to avoid. |
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Posted: 2/23/2024 10:31:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Would these cough drops be okay? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/IMG_6662_jpeg-3138302.JPG Even fake sugar is bad. Your body still treats it like sugar, to a degree. For cough, get a prescription for benzonatate, aka Tessalon. Cheap and super effective. |
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Posted: 2/23/2024 10:38:11 AM EDT
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@FaygoJoe the most common triggers for autoimmune disorders are nutrient deficiencies and allergies. Carnivore is whose because it eliminates most common food allergies but don't ignore any other allergen and pay attention to nutrients. The most common nutrient deficiencies are magnesium and selenium.
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Posted: 2/23/2024 10:41:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Hunter-Killer]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Clarinath: Even fake sugar is bad. Your body still treats it like sugar, to a degree. For cough, get a prescription for benzonatate, aka Tessalon. Cheap and super effective. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Clarinath: Originally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Would these cough drops be okay? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/258158/IMG_6662_jpeg-3138302.JPG Even fake sugar is bad. Your body still treats it like sugar, to a degree. For cough, get a prescription for benzonatate, aka Tessalon. Cheap and super effective. It’s a sore throat, but there usually isn’t much coughing. I guess I could just stock the stronger “cleaning chemicals” cough drops. Those taste so nasty that an average sore throat is damn near preferable to consuming them. |
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Posted: 2/23/2024 1:36:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: It’s a sore throat, but there usually isn’t much coughing. I guess I could just stock the stronger “cleaning chemicals” cough drops. Those taste so nasty that an average sore throat is damn near preferable to consuming them. I have had (and recommend socially but not professionally) that a sore throat is well treated by gargling grain alcohol. Don't swallow it. But it kills the cells that are releasing their "hurt everything around me" chemicals, plus it's a numbing agent. It's got calories but no carbs so it's kinda ok from some keto/carnivore perspectives. |
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MH, USA
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Posted: 2/24/2024 1:10:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By QueenDeNile: @FaygoJoe the most common triggers for autoimmune disorders are nutrient deficiencies and allergies. Carnivore is whose because it eliminates most common food allergies but don't ignore any other allergen and pay attention to nutrients. The most common nutrient deficiencies are magnesium and selenium. Thanks. After an ongoing problem, then an ER visit I followed up with my primary doc and an allergist. Both don't think I haven anything based on the test results. The symptoms came back after awhile and I'm thinking something might actually be wrong. My wife is convinced I have something. If it's likely not allergies, and a nutrient thing, I'll have to experiment to try an narrow it down. All I know is something isn't quite right. As far as the carnivore diet goes, I've already been a pretty low carb diet for almost a year with intermittent fasting. It's been pretty good but I think carnivore could help with other stuff. People seem to get off of medications, lose more weight, have better skin, etc. so I thought I'd give it a try for those things along with what I first heard of using it for auto-immune stuff and trying to figure out what's wrong with me. I figured it can't hurt to try it for a few months if I can make it. |
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Posted: 2/24/2024 1:48:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Plucky_Purcell]
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I weigh in every morning right after my morning restroom visit. Tracking has been very encouraging. Note that the first big drop was definitely water weight. I'm 64 and 6'0" and my goal weight is 195. We'll see once I'm there. Started on normal carnivore "eat until you're full, two meals" but once I was in full ketosis and not feeling hungry I went down to 3 eggs for breakfast and nothing else on most days. I supplement with fish oil, Centrum Silver, Mg, and K. I do 30 min on the eliptical and strength training on alternate days. I'm down 40 lbs, feel really good, and my wife is really happy.
 
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Posted: 2/24/2024 6:58:19 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/25/2024 1:06:15 AM EDT
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Pick one of the following to use for cooking ribeyes on a cast iron skillet:
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Posted: 2/25/2024 1:21:08 AM EDT
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either, but, jus get the pan hot the ribeye has plenty of fat.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/25/2024 1:46:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plucky_Purcell: I weigh in every morning right after my morning restroom visit. Tracking has been very encouraging. Note that the first big drop was definitely water weight. I'm 64 and 6'0" and my goal weight is 195. We'll see once I'm there. Started on normal carnivore "eat until you're full, two meals" but once I was in full ketosis and not feeling hungry I went down to 3 eggs for breakfast and nothing else on most days. I supplement with fish oil, Centrum Silver, Mg, and K. I do 30 min on the eliptical and strength training on alternate days. I'm down 40 lbs, feel really good, and my wife is really happy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/487105/Weight_Record_2-23-24-3139481.jpg 
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Posted: 2/25/2024 2:01:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Plucky_Purcell: I weigh in every morning right after my morning restroom visit. Tracking has been very encouraging. Note that the first big drop was definitely water weight. I'm 64 and 6'0" and my goal weight is 195. We'll see once I'm there. Started on normal carnivore "eat until you're full, two meals" but once I was in full ketosis and not feeling hungry I went down to 3 eggs for breakfast and nothing else on most days. I supplement with fish oil, Centrum Silver, Mg, and K. I do 30 min on the eliptical and strength training on alternate days. I'm down 40 lbs, feel really good, and my wife is really happy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/487105/Weight_Record_2-23-24-3139481.jpg Are you saying that for most days you have 3 eggs and nothing else for BREAKFAST or 3 eggs and nothing else FOR THE REST OF THE DAY? |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 2:03:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lucky-Charm: either, but, jus get the pan hot the ribeye has plenty of fat. I was curious which one people prefer for taste. I prefer salted butter over non-salted, but I’ve never had Himalayan pink salt before so I have no idea what it tastes like. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 2:08:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zeekh: I've read that many olive oil contain rape seed oli. Best source for olive oil is California. They have to be pure olive oil. I saw an article about how the Italian mafia is controlling the olive oil industry and using cheaper oils with food coloring in them to look right. I had a bottle of an Italian maker (Filippo Berio?) and ordered a bottle of California oil. The minute I opened the California oil, smelled it, and felt the texture, I knew the Italian bottle was a ripoff. There was a noticeable difference. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 2:19:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaximusEmanatus: I saw an article about how the Italian mafia is controlling the olive oil industry and using cheaper oils with food coloring in them to look right. I had a bottle of an Italian maker (Filippo Berio?) and ordered a bottle of California oil. The minute I opened the California oil, smelled it, and felt the texture, I knew the Italian bottle was a ripoff. There was a noticeable difference. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaximusEmanatus: Originally Posted By zeekh: I've read that many olive oil contain rape seed oli. Best source for olive oil is California. They have to be pure olive oil. I saw an article about how the Italian mafia is controlling the olive oil industry and using cheaper oils with food coloring in them to look right. I had a bottle of an Italian maker (Filippo Berio?) and ordered a bottle of California oil. The minute I opened the California oil, smelled it, and felt the texture, I knew the Italian bottle was a ripoff. There was a noticeable difference.  |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 4:19:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Are you saying that for most days you have 3 eggs and nothing else for BREAKFAST or 3 eggs and nothing else FOR THE REST OF THE DAY? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Hunter-Killer: Originally Posted By Plucky_Purcell: I weigh in every morning right after my morning restroom visit. Tracking has been very encouraging. Note that the first big drop was definitely water weight. I'm 64 and 6'0" and my goal weight is 195. We'll see once I'm there. Started on normal carnivore "eat until you're full, two meals" but once I was in full ketosis and not feeling hungry I went down to 3 eggs for breakfast and nothing else on most days. I supplement with fish oil, Centrum Silver, Mg, and K. I do 30 min on the eliptical and strength training on alternate days. I'm down 40 lbs, feel really good, and my wife is really happy. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/487105/Weight_Record_2-23-24-3139481.jpg Are you saying that for most days you have 3 eggs and nothing else for BREAKFAST or 3 eggs and nothing else FOR THE REST OF THE DAY? Nothing else for the rest of the day. |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 8:41:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MaximusEmanatus: I saw an article about how the Italian mafia is controlling the olive oil industry and using cheaper oils with food coloring in them to look right. I had a bottle of an Italian maker (Filippo Berio?) and ordered a bottle of California oil. The minute I opened the California oil, smelled it, and felt the texture, I knew the Italian bottle was a ripoff. There was a noticeable difference. We've been using Califonia olive oli exclusively for quite a few years. Prior to that we bought the Italian brand because they know olive oil 
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Posted: 2/25/2024 1:34:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WorkDroid]
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Todays dinner this morning:
Pan fried tri-tip in butter. Topped with garlic feta sprinkled with sea salt.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/25/2024 3:17:35 PM EDT
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It's always a struggle when I visit my husband's family. They eat whatever the opposite of low carb is. A high carb, low protein diet. We're spending 4 days-day 3 and my stomach thinks it's dying.
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Posted: 2/25/2024 3:21:49 PM EDT
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@FaygoJoe can you share what labs you have had? I'm not an expert but I have learned to eliminate 3 of my autoimmune disorders and am slowly reducing the other two.
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Posted: 2/25/2024 10:12:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By steviesterno16: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/455820/IMG_6456_jpeg-3140166.JPG Bacon wrapped shrimp with spicy cream cheese and some butter. How do you work it so that the bacon is cooked before the shrimp gets overcooked? |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 12:54:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zeekh: We've been using Califonia olive oli exclusively for quite a few years. Prior to that we bought the Italian brand because they know olive oil There are a few different olive oil sources that are credible, what is available in the stores is not. That's because the ones that bottle the good stuff, isn't in enough volume to supply all of the stores. California ranch used to be good, but the demand was such that they now are blended with olive oils from different sources. As for me, I get bariani from California, and kouzini from Greece. I get the early harvest oils, which is rich in polyphenols, but also stronger tasting and more bitter. I used to get early harvest plus the regular stuff but I've acquired a taste for actual olive oil, which is spicy and a little bitter. If you read the labels of the grocery store stuff, you can see that it's not really extra virgin olive oil, it's olive oil mixed with other oil, to tone it down, because Americans don't like the taste of real food. |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 6:45:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fulcrum-5: How do you work it so that the bacon is cooked before the shrimp gets overcooked? Thick shrimp and skinny bacon. Plus the shrimp were a little tough but the flavor was great. |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 8:04:00 PM EDT
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Par cook the bacon in the oven....
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Posted: 2/26/2024 8:05:12 PM EDT
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3rd week back on carnivore.
Amazing. AMA. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 2/26/2024 8:20:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: jchewie1]
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Ran 3 miles tonight. Felt great. Cooking an 18 oz burger for dinner.
ETA, who has a tip for flipping a 8 inch diameter burger in a skillet  without splattering grease on the ceiling.
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Posted: 2/26/2024 8:40:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jchewie1: Ran 3 miles tonight. Felt great. Cooking an 18 oz burger for dinner. ETA, who has a tip for flipping a 8 inch diameter burger in a skillet without splattering grease on the ceiling.Ninja Airfryer is your best friend, now and forever more. |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 9:21:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jchewie1: Ran 3 miles tonight. Felt great. Cooking an 18 oz burger for dinner. ETA, who has a tip for flipping a 8 inch diameter burger in a skillet without splattering grease on the ceiling.Flip outside... I do all my cooking outdoors now of course it doesn't hurt living in South Florida.... |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 2/26/2024 9:50:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Lucky-Charm: Flip outside... I do all my cooking outdoors now of course it doesn't hurt living in South Florida.... I would if I could, however I'm a little ways west of the opposite end of I75. |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 9:53:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By burnprocess: 3rd week back on carnivore. Amazing. AMA. Why did you get off carnivore? What did you eat when you were off? SAD? Keto? What is the most notable side effect? |
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Posted: 2/26/2024 10:58:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jchewie1: I would if I could, however I'm a little ways west of the opposite end of I75. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jchewie1: Originally Posted By Lucky-Charm: Flip outside... I do all my cooking outdoors now of course it doesn't hurt living in South Florida.... I would if I could, however I'm a little ways west of the opposite end of I75. You act like we don’t run out to the smoker in a snow storm. |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 12:38:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jchewie1: Ran 3 miles tonight. Felt great. Cooking an 18 oz burger for dinner. ETA, who has a tip for flipping a 8 inch diameter burger in a skillet without splattering grease on the ceiling.Pick up handle and let grease run to bottom . Flip burger. Set handle back down on burner. Aprons come in handy as well for keeping grease stains off of your clothes. |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 1:37:09 AM EDT
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Sardines. Breakfast of champions. Zero prep, easy cleanup.
King Oscar brand, skinless & boneless, in olive oil. There's a slightly pricier one in EVOO I haven't tried yet. |
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Posted: 2/27/2024 8:17:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jchewie1: Why did you get off carnivore? What did you eat when you were off? SAD? Keto? What is the most notable side effect? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jchewie1: Originally Posted By burnprocess: 3rd week back on carnivore. Amazing. AMA. Why did you get off carnivore? What did you eat when you were off? SAD? Keto? What is the most notable side effect? Laziness and social obligations. I was always out and about (not anymore), and the whole “a little cheat now won’t hurt,” but it did, since a cheat on one day led to an easier cheat the next day, etc. like working out, NEVER rest more than a day unless you absolutely have to. I still ate fairly clean; I’ve never been a big proponent of processed foods like cereals, packaged meats, etc. I’ve always read labels. I guess you could consider what I went to as more a paleo diet but with “outing” foods added regularly - a burger, a burrito, etc. Of course I cannot dictate what a restaurant puts in their foods - I assume it’s processed stuff when they can use it. The effects were pretty significant. Definitely gained weight, but not to obesity. I got “fuller.” Not in a bulky, swole way. My energy started fluctuating more and tiredness would creep in again. My knees would feel warm and crackly - lots of joint issues when I take in carbs/greens. The food tasted good and made social situations a little easier but in reality it was impacting my health. I can do OK on something like paleo, but something about carnivore makes my body feel positively incredible. It really does feel like a superpower sometimes. |
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