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Posted: 6/30/2018 6:12:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are a Brit and Brits seem to have an issue satisfying their women. Next you will tell me is that Estonia is next to the mythical country of Latvia. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 6:30:27 PM EDT
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Wait is Estonia a real country? I legit thought it was made up. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Wait is Estonia a real country? I legit thought it was made up. 
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You would hate it. The women are all fat and smell of potatoes  |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 6:36:07 PM EDT
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He doesn't actually care about the spending, he's just looking for an excuse to pull out of it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Probably hard to do the job when the boss wants to destroy NATO. 
The President wants to destroy NATO by forcing all of the members to increase military spending to the point where they actually have a military. Once again you've pointed out that President Trump is a bad, bad, man and I'm almost sorry I didn't vote for Hillary Clinton like you did, keep it up however and you just might. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 6:36:47 PM EDT
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Lol. The Russians take territory that is technically already pro-Russia (after the EU romances them) and you shit your pants.  Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Which furthers the interests of the fellow that is busy invading eastern Europe, but whatever I guess. What did we form NATO for again? 
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Posted: 6/30/2018 6:38:00 PM EDT
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We are NATO basically. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Probably hard to do the job when the boss wants to destroy NATO. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 6:47:07 PM EDT
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Estonia is a real country. This is a real Estonian. http://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/15273006/1080full-anett-kontaveit.jpg Sorry, no. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wait is Estonia a real country? I legit thought it was made up. http://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/15273006/1080full-anett-kontaveit.jpg Quoted:
You would hate it. The women are all fat and smell of potatoes I live with an Estonian woman. My neighbor is an Estonian woman. Both of my sisters are Estonian women. Fat and smell of potatoes,also not very bright and ill tempered...terrible place for finding women. Likewise,I am fat and smell of beets. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 6:49:05 PM EDT
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He became Ambassador to Estonia in 2015. Which administration was in office in 2015? Such derangement. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What do you expect. Obama installed a lot of loyal people in his regime. Regime has changed, these people garner no pull with the new one. 
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Posted: 6/30/2018 6:53:02 PM EDT
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Yes. I live with an Estonian woman. My neighbor is an Estonian woman. Both of my sisters are Estonian women. Fat and smell of potatoes,also not very bright and ill tempered...terrible place for finding women. Likewise,I am fat and smell of beets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wait is Estonia a real country? I legit thought it was made up. http://ilarge.lisimg.com/image/15273006/1080full-anett-kontaveit.jpg Quoted:
You would hate it. The women are all fat and smell of potatoes I live with an Estonian woman. My neighbor is an Estonian woman. Both of my sisters are Estonian women. Fat and smell of potatoes,also not very bright and ill tempered...terrible place for finding women. Likewise,I am fat and smell of beets. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 6:56:49 PM EDT
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Estonia is a real country. This is a real Estonian. http://i.imgur.com/PTc88X6.jpg Sorry, no. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wait is Estonia a real country? I legit thought it was made up. http://i.imgur.com/PTc88X6.jpg Quoted:
You would hate it. The women are all fat and smell of potatoes  My SO and pretty much all of her friends attended the arts academy just beside it.
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Posted: 6/30/2018 6:57:56 PM EDT
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Lol. The Russians take territory that is technically already pro-Russia (after the EU romances them) and you shit your pants. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: Which furthers the interests of the fellow that is busy invading eastern Europe, but whatever I guess. What did we form NATO for again? |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 7:00:05 PM EDT
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These are the facts: 1) NATO couldn't fight its way out of a wet bag. 2) The American Century is over. 3) New powers arise in the world. 4) Adapt or perish. Toomas Ilves lived in a dreamworld, and the dream is now over. The current Estonian government needs to consider a realpolitikal approach to a world, in which America is just another country and not some all-powerful hegemon. Barack Obama, Donald Trump, or Bruce Springsteen aren't going to save Estonia from Russia. What now? That is the question for the policy-makers in Tallinna. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 7:02:03 PM EDT
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True but I also don’t think the US could win a major war either. Americans are so used to minimal casualties that there would be too much public uproar from the left and right saying “Japan/ROK/whomever isn’t worth it”. Russia is best left to its own devices,whose harm makes the greater harm Russia could cause minimized. On one hand,I wish Russians could be as good of neighbors as everyone else but they don’t have that in them. Therefore,I would rather see all the detriments of a shitty Russia than the detriments of a successful Russia and for that I’m strangely happy with Putin vs a capable alternative. Nobody would stop them from taking the Baltics barring that tiny risk of there may be something other than nasty words at the UN.,like cutting off porn and hooker exports or something more meaningful than the sanctions over Ukraine or fucking around with the US. What would be hilarious would be all the GD experts who would furiously read Wikipedia and RT articles about how they were historically part of Russia until being made pawns of Wall Street Jews and the like. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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These are the facts: 1) NATO couldn't fight its way out of a wet bag. 2) The American Century is over. 3) New powers arise in the world. 4) Adapt or perish. Toomas Ilves lived in a dreamworld, and the dream is now over. The current Estonian government needs to consider a realpolitikal approach to a world, in which America is just another country and not some all-powerful hegemon. Barack Obama, Donald Trump, or Bruce Springsteen aren't going to save Estonia from Russia. What now? That is the question for the policy-makers in Tallinna. Russia is best left to its own devices,whose harm makes the greater harm Russia could cause minimized. On one hand,I wish Russians could be as good of neighbors as everyone else but they don’t have that in them. Therefore,I would rather see all the detriments of a shitty Russia than the detriments of a successful Russia and for that I’m strangely happy with Putin vs a capable alternative. Nobody would stop them from taking the Baltics barring that tiny risk of there may be something other than nasty words at the UN.,like cutting off porn and hooker exports or something more meaningful than the sanctions over Ukraine or fucking around with the US. What would be hilarious would be all the GD experts who would furiously read Wikipedia and RT articles about how they were historically part of Russia until being made pawns of Wall Street Jews and the like. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 7:07:26 PM EDT
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Just remember that when China takes parts of Siberia. 
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Posted: 6/30/2018 7:11:48 PM EDT
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Wait is Estonia a real country? I legit thought it was made up. 
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Posted: 6/30/2018 7:12:58 PM EDT
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Isn't that a Tom Clancy book? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just remember that when China takes parts of Siberia. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 7:20:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: True but I also don’t think the US could win a major war either. Americans are so used to minimal casualties that there would be too much public uproar from the left and right saying “Japan/ROK/whomever isn’t worth it”. Russia is best left to its own devices,whose harm makes the greater harm Russia could cause minimized. On one hand,I wish Russians could be as good of neighbors as everyone else but they don’t have that in them. Therefore,I would rather see all the detriments of a shitty Russia than the detriments of a successful Russia and for that I’m strangely happy with Putin vs a capable alternative. Nobody would stop them from taking the Baltics barring that tiny risk of there may be something other than nasty words at the UN.,like cutting off porn and hooker exports or something more meaningful than the sanctions over Ukraine or fucking around with the US. What would be hilarious would be all the GD experts who would furiously read Wikipedia and RT articles about how they were historically part of Russia until being made pawns of Wall Street Jews and the like. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 7:22:37 PM EDT
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China has long had an avarice eye on Siberia and all its natural resources. That could be the next big war.
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Posted: 6/30/2018 7:26:42 PM EDT
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Isn't Estonia where they have all those really hot women?
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Posted: 6/30/2018 7:28:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's been attacking NATO ever since he went to Moscow in the 80s. He's still completely ignorant about how it works decades later. https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-07/10/17/enhanced/webdr02/original-12123-1436563121-15.png?downsize=715:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto Now he wants to take our troops out of Germany? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-assessing-cost-of-keeping-troops-in-germany-as-trump-battles-with-europe/2018/06/29/94689094-ca9f-490c-b3be-b135970de3fc_story.html?utm_term=.3d5082d8d6b7 |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 8:02:20 PM EDT
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Just another country that exports CNG and has BMD covering much of Europe? Admittedly that doesn’t do much for Estonia since they’re so close. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 8:12:55 PM EDT
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On 16 July Vladimir Putin and his American peer are going to meet in Helsinki. Now it is quite possible that Estonians are going to get sold out that day. Don't panic, historically Americans do this to all of their "allies", it's inevitable when you deal with those people. Instead adapt a reactive and proactive contingency-policy that seeks closer co-operation with the Nordic countries, Germany, and Poland. When you do this, remember two key things: 1) Estonia and the Baltic Countries are not high-priority targets for Russia's aggressive foreign policy, Russia is tied up with its own systemic shittiness elsewhere, 2) You are not alone no matter what Vladimir Putin or the regime in Washington tell you. It will be alright if you continue economical and political integration with the neighbouring western countries. There might well be a Lavrov-Pompeo Pact, but this isn't 1939 anymore; the world has changed. There will be a future Europe with an independent Estonia in it. I don’t have any actual fear of a Russian invasion but know that Russian meddling is a part of life. This is probably something Americans should get used to again rather than so many still refusing to understand that it means far more than election tampering. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 8:14:25 PM EDT
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33 years...O'Bama was not in place 33 years ago... Where do I need to go to college so when I graduate my first job is ambassador? |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 8:25:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He's been attacking NATO ever since he went to Moscow in the 80s. He's still completely ignorant about how it works decades later. https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-07/10/17/enhanced/webdr02/original-12123-1436563121-15.png?downsize=715:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto Now he wants to take our troops out of Germany? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-assessing-cost-of-keeping-troops-in-germany-as-trump-battles-with-europe/2018/06/29/94689094-ca9f-490c-b3be-b135970de3fc_story.html?utm_term=.3d5082d8d6b7 Now it is being put front and center to get more substantial contributions from the nations that will benefit the most from our soldiers. While Europe has been conducting social experiments the US has been their shield, the status quo is changing and in the future more nations will have to be truly independent militarily to protect their people. Especially as resources are depleted. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 9:04:30 PM EDT
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China has long had an avarice eye on Siberia and all its natural resources. That could be the next big war. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 9:05:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had to google CNG and BMD. Your point about Compressed Natural Gas is dubious, your point about Bernese Mountain Dogs escaped me. The US has so much NG they're shutting down nuclear power because they can't compete with NG economically. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 9:16:33 PM EDT
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Estonia was a lot of fun last year especially when the Baltic Air Police would roll by and nobody had a bad thing to say about us or what we were doing there. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 9:21:35 PM EDT
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Wait is Estonia a real country? I legit thought it was made up. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 9:23:31 PM EDT
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Your kidding? Just off the coast of Estonia is the small island resort of Lilliput. Surely you remember the Winter games at Lillehammer? It's along the Norwegian coast about halfway between Lillehammer and Estonia. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Wait is Estonia a real country? I legit thought it was made up. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 9:25:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No you aren't. Please discuss Non US NATO military power. Please show your work. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 10:12:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Which furthers the interests of the fellow that is busy invading eastern Europe, but whatever I guess. What did we form NATO for again? |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 10:18:30 PM EDT
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Wait is Estonia a real country? I legit thought it was made up. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 10:24:09 PM EDT
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To be a multinational group where the resources of each country are pooled to help protect Europe. What your dumbass is negating to mention is that US is the majority of it while the rest leech off us so they can inflate their welfare state. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 6/30/2018 10:26:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Neice is part Estonian. Estonian is a language. 
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Posted: 6/30/2018 10:26:14 PM EDT
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I'd like to nominate Jeff Sessions as his replacement.
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Posted: 6/30/2018 10:27:13 PM EDT
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I'd like to nominate Jeff Sessions as his replacement. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 10:29:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No you aren't. I'm a graduate of the Oberamergau Senior Officer course, btw. Whats your knowledge base? Interesting to note you don't say "we" when speaking of the US. Do you not consider yourself an american or was this merely an acknowledgement that you have never served in the military so "we" is reserved for those who actually served their country? |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 10:42:28 PM EDT
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Sucking the .gov teat for 33 years, cushy gig, bye! I think this had something to do with it. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 10:44:39 PM EDT
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Yes we are. I'm a graduate of the Oberamergau Senior Officer course, btw. Whats your knowledge base? Interesting to note you don't say "we" when speaking of the US. Do you not consider yourself an american or was this merely an acknowledgement that you have never served in the military so "we" is reserved for those who actually served their country? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Posted: 6/30/2018 10:55:57 PM EDT
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He was talking to tsg68 who routinely posts Russian talking points. As explained (at great pains by the quasi-gay French instructor) NATO is a solar system and America is the sun. Without US support, NATO is nothing more than a national guard. French can't conduct operations in Africa without US logistical support. The budgets reflect this reality. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 11:04:39 PM EDT
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but he isn't wrong about NATO. As explained (at great pains by the quasi-gay French instructor) NATO is a solar system and America is the sun. Without US support, NATO is nothing more than a national guard. French can't conduct operations in Africa without US logistical support. The budgets reflect this reality. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He was talking to tsg68 who routinely posts Russian talking points. As explained (at great pains by the quasi-gay French instructor) NATO is a solar system and America is the sun. Without US support, NATO is nothing more than a national guard. French can't conduct operations in Africa without US logistical support. The budgets reflect this reality.
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Posted: 6/30/2018 11:25:02 PM EDT
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He's been attacking NATO ever since he went to Moscow in the 80s. He's still completely ignorant about how it works decades later. https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-07/10/17/enhanced/webdr02/original-12123-1436563121-15.png?downsize=715:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto Now he wants to take our troops out of Germany? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-assessing-cost-of-keeping-troops-in-germany-as-trump-battles-with-europe/2018/06/29/94689094-ca9f-490c-b3be-b135970de3fc_story.html?utm_term=.3d5082d8d6b7 Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Probably hard to do the job when the boss wants to destroy NATO.  https://img.buzzfeed.com/buzzfeed-static/static/2015-07/10/17/enhanced/webdr02/original-12123-1436563121-15.png?downsize=715:*&output-format=auto&output-quality=auto Now he wants to take our troops out of Germany? https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-assessing-cost-of-keeping-troops-in-germany-as-trump-battles-with-europe/2018/06/29/94689094-ca9f-490c-b3be-b135970de3fc_story.html?utm_term=.3d5082d8d6b7 The Pentagon is analyzing the cost and impact of a large-scale withdrawal or transfer of American troops stationed in Germany, amid growing tensions between President Trump and German Chancellor Angela Merkel, according to people familiar with the work.
The effort follows Trump’s expression of interest in removing the troops, made during a meeting earlier this year with White House and military aides, U.S. officials said. Trump was said to have been taken aback by the size of the U.S. presence, which includes about 35,000 active-duty troops, and complained that other countries were not contributing fairly to joint security or paying enough to NATO. Word of the assessment has alarmed European officials, who are scrambling to determine whether Trump actually intends to reposition U.S. forces or whether it is merely a negotiating tactic ahead of a NATO summit in Brussels, where Trump is again likely to criticize U.S. allies for what he deems insufficient defense spending. |
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Posted: 6/30/2018 11:48:36 PM EDT
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For the most part, ambassador are a useless relic of the past and should be eliminated.
In the days of sailing ships and long voyages they served a purpose. In these days of technology and near instant communication, they're not needed. |
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Posted: 7/1/2018 2:59:43 AM EDT
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Yes. I live with an Estonian woman. My neighbor is an Estonian woman. Both of my sisters are Estonian women. Fat and smell of potatoes,also not very bright and ill tempered...terrible place for finding women. Likewise,I am fat and smell of beets. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You would hate it. The women are all fat and smell of potatoes I live with an Estonian woman. My neighbor is an Estonian woman. Both of my sisters are Estonian women. Fat and smell of potatoes,also not very bright and ill tempered...terrible place for finding women. Likewise,I am fat and smell of beets.
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Posted: 7/1/2018 4:35:34 AM EDT
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This strikes me as one of those threads where forcing people to pass a simple ten question geography and history test before posting would have significantly improved the discourse.
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Posted: 7/1/2018 4:42:41 AM EDT
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I'm a graduate of the Oberamergau Senior Officer course, btw. |
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Posted: 7/1/2018 11:51:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm a graduate of the Oberamergau Senior Officer course, btw. |
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Posted: 7/1/2018 11:52:48 PM EDT
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This strikes me as one of those threads where forcing people to pass a simple ten question geography and history test before posting would have significantly improved the discourse. |
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Posted: 7/1/2018 11:53:51 PM EDT
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Wait is Estonia a real country? I legit thought it was made up. |
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Posted: 7/1/2018 11:56:03 PM EDT
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He was right, I’m not tired of winning yet. Toe the line or beat feet. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/06/29/politics/us-ambassador-estonia-resign-trump/index.html https://media.giphy.com/media/3oKIPf1BaBDILVxbYA/giphy.gif |
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Posted: 7/2/2018 3:56:29 AM EDT
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Did you ever read the blog by one of the few conservatives in the State Department, who did the same thing with State Employees? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This strikes me as one of those threads where forcing people to pass a simple ten question geography and history test before posting would have significantly improved the discourse. |
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