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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:09:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:10:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So this is helping thaw relations with Russia? |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:10:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they've been attacking their neighbors and annexing chunks for two decades. It's pretty clear they won't stop until they've rebuilt Russia to the USSR's former size. They're pretty open about it. This is the cheap way of dealing with them, because they won't stop and eventually will end up causing a bigger mess and more expensive price. That logic would work if Ukraine was actually winning, but they are not. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:11:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Russia doesnt want good relations, it wants to take territory. Your cowardice on this subject is hilarious. Cowardice lol. Ok Chief. It’s borderline hilarious watching all the Uke Bros meltdown when you say you want Americans put before Ukrainians. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:12:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they've been attacking their neighbors and annexing chunks for two decades. It's pretty clear they won't stop until they've rebuilt Russia to the USSR's former size. They're pretty open about it. This is the cheap way of dealing with them, because they won't stop and eventually will end up causing a bigger mess and more expensive price. And where has the EU been in all that time? They’ve seen the threat, knew it was coming and had at least 20 years to prepare, but as always it falls on Uncle Sugar and by extension the American tax payer to foot the bill. With the exception of Poland none of the European countries have done a darn thing to prepare, and that includes Ukraine, who above all others should have been ready. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:14:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And where has the EU been in all that time? They’ve seen the threat, knew it was coming and had at least 20 years to prepare, but as always it falls on Uncle Sugar and by extension the American tax payer to foot the bill. With the exception of Poland none of the European countries have done a darn thing to prepare, and that includes Ukraine, who above all others should have been ready. They were too busy spending wrecklesslynon socialist programs because they knew the US would foot the defense bill. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:17:26 PM EDT
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Russian propaganda!
Russian talking points! When did you start hating America??? Russian troll farm! If we let the Russians take the Ukrainian village of Bhbprtjlgjlvljrov, they are going to take Texas and Wyoming next! Putin cock-gobbler! |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:18:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they've been attacking their neighbors and annexing chunks for two decades. It's pretty clear they won't stop until they've rebuilt Russia to the USSR's former size. They're pretty open about it. This is the cheap way of dealing with them, because they won't stop and eventually will end up causing a bigger mess and more expensive price. Who cares, not our problem. USSR days are over, no matter how many shitholes they invade. Cheap way of dealing with them, cheap?!  You believe the money is all going to the right thing, no corruption? Money well spent? Couple trillion in tax dollars. Do you believe in the tooth fairy too? What's our national debt again?! I'm sure the same folks that got us in this debt are doing the right thing here. Many of which are somehow worth millions after a lifetime in politics. You guys are unreal. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:30:14 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:31:18 PM EDT
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Yet we can’t afford to hire armed security to put in schools to minimize shootings. I don’t mean a 350 pound deputy like the one at my kids school who stays in his truck with the AC cranked up 99% of the day.
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:31:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:31:41 PM EDT
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Making our kids debt slaves for an Eastern European shithole.
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:33:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That will be a Russian problem. I hope so. But, I’m afraid we’re gonna jump in with both feet. There’s gonna be a shit ton of rich concrete guys. How much reconstruction did we do after the unnecessary war in Iraq? |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:33:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And you don't think $900 is a cheap price to absolutely destroy the Russian military? That price will only go up. You are also making the assumption that it is going to absolutely destroy the Russian military. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:34:15 PM EDT
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I want about 10 acres in Ruskraine then for my donation....
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:37:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: But we don’t have the money to build a wall to protect our own borders. we have the money, we just don't have the will (or the right administration to build it) |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:38:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We should be angry. You should be angry. Joe Biden has us involved in a war we have no business being involved in. It's costing us dearly and making America less safe. And, for SOME reason, they’ve suckered a whole lot of Conservatives into wild eyed warmonger mode. I don’t get it. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:41:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I doubt you have any true concern on that. I've read enough of you post that it's clear you just want division between posters here. Well, if you mean he’s not willing to blindly jump on the Uke bandwagon, count me in. We don’t want division. But, even more, we don’t want to be involved in another never ending war (which this is shaping up to be). |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:42:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bullshit. You know we’re gonna jump in with both feet. There’s gonna be a shit ton of rich concrete guys. How much reconstruction did we do after the unnecessary war in Iraq? Not if Russia wins. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:43:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you a "All taxation is theft Conservative"? By this Government? Yes. It is theft. By a government of the People and by the People? No, it’s necessary to maintain the Common Defense and facilitate trade between the sovereign states. But, THIS Government? Pffft… |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:46:18 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:47:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Get some guts and post the name. He’s not a scumbag Arock’er. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:49:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That logic would work if Ukraine was actually winning, but they are not. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because they've been attacking their neighbors and annexing chunks for two decades. It's pretty clear they won't stop until they've rebuilt Russia to the USSR's former size. They're pretty open about it. This is the cheap way of dealing with them, because they won't stop and eventually will end up causing a bigger mess and more expensive price. That logic would work if Ukraine was actually winning, but they are not. Actually by this logic Ukraine winning is irrelevant, what matters is if Russia's military is depleted sufficiently to render them incapable of invading neighbors for a generation. It's not there yet, but that outcome certainly is possible given how deep Russia is having to dig into it's cold war leftovers. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:53:30 PM EDT
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In the meantime...
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:56:57 PM EDT
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Way to reduce a rather complex issue into a worthless dollar figure.
But I guess it makes it easy for windowlickers to “converse” on the subject. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 7:58:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not if Russia wins. Well, there is THAT.  I amended my original post you quoted. It was the IPA talking. 
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:01:29 PM EDT
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.0035 cents per dead commie
Not bad…..not bad |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:28:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And you don't think $900 is a cheap price to absolutely destroy the Russian military? Unlike Ukraine Russia has a large domestic military industry and they can make their own stuff to replace their losses. And before you say "but muh sanctions!" it's becoming obvious that with the help of the Chinese, Indians, and other countries, they're evading sanctions and getting US-made parts without a problem . So at this point my $900 hasn't bought me anything but a higher national debt and increased chances of a worldwide war. We're at about the 1964 point in the Viet Nam War , where it became obvious the South Vietnamese couldn't cut the mustard but our leaders promised if we just gave more support victory would be around the corner. How much more do you want to spend? |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:30:17 PM EDT
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(4) pages, lol...
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:31:53 PM EDT
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One thing I will give the Russians credit for, is they are, and always have been, very good at disinformation.
The switch in so many conservatives is a real alternate-universe head trip. A country that has spent the last 80 years actively threatening and creating war around the world is getting it's ass handed to it by a country everybody thought would roll over in a few days. Russian war doctrine is straight out of the middle ages. Brutality, rape, murder - it's standard practice. There are dozens of confirmed cases in Bucha where kids 12 years old and younger were raped repeatedly and murdered. The conservatives and republicans that have always stood against this brutality are now ignoring it because FJB!!! If Trump were to suddenly support Ukraine, GD would explode with the sudden switch in sides. If you want an economic argument, the money and gear spent on Ukraine is literally a drop in the bucket compared to cold war spending. There is another cold war ramping up, and it's with China. Leaving Ukraine to be butchered by the Russians would embolden China more than anything else we could do. GD complains about China treating us like their bitch, what do you think they would do if we suddenly acted like Russia's bitch? If you want to make a moral argument against helping Ukraine, you just can't. There's nothing moral about watching the little kid on the playground get abused when you're one of the big kids. Ukraine was strong armed into giving up most of their military with a promise to protect them. We aren't sending our soldiers to die on their battlefields (and we won't). Ukraine doesn't want our soldiers on their battlefields either, just the ammo to fight their own battles. It's a freaking win-win economically and morally. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:39:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they've been attacking their neighbors and annexing chunks for two decades. It's pretty clear they won't stop until they've rebuilt Russia to the USSR's former size. They're pretty open about it. This is the cheap way of dealing with them, because they won't stop and eventually will end up causing a bigger mess and more expensive price. Tell me, how did our propping up a corrupt, incompetent, unpopular regime in South Viet Nam in the late 50s/early 60s 1) prevent greater costs to the US down the road, and 2) stop the spread of Communism in Southeast Asia? |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:40:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ukraine doesn't want our soldiers on their battlefields either, just the ammo to fight their own battles.     
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:40:08 PM EDT
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FJB, fuck Russia and fuck Ukraine. We have our own problems with an invasion. Why aren't European nations sending us billions of dollars????
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:42:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One thing I will give the Russians credit for, is they are, and always have been, very good at disinformation. The switch in so many conservatives is a real alternate-universe head trip. A country that has spent the last 80 years actively threatening and creating war around the world is getting it's ass handed to it by a country everybody thought would roll over in a few days. Russian war doctrine is straight out of the middle ages. Brutality, rape, murder - it's standard practice. There are dozens of confirmed cases in Bucha where kids 12 years old and younger were raped repeatedly and murdered. The conservatives and republicans that have always stood against this brutality are now ignoring it because FJB!!! If Trump were to suddenly support Ukraine, GD would explode with the sudden switch in sides. If you want an economic argument, the money and gear spent on Ukraine is literally a drop in the bucket compared to cold war spending. There is another cold war ramping up, and it's with China. Leaving Ukraine to be butchered by the Russians would embolden China more than anything else we could do. GD complains about China treating us like their bitch, what do you think they would do if we suddenly acted like Russia's bitch? If you want to make a moral argument against helping Ukraine, you just can't. There's nothing moral about watching the little kid on the playground get abused when you're one of the big kids. Ukraine was strong armed into giving up most of their military with a promise to protect them. We aren't sending our soldiers to die on their battlefields (and we won't). Ukraine doesn't want our soldiers on their battlefields either, just the ammo to fight their own battles. It's a freaking win-win economically and morally. Well "lukus" has spoken. Time for 70% of arfcom that is tired of taxpayer money being given to ukraine to admit we're all wrong! |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:42:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cowardice lol. Ok Chief. It’s borderline hilarious watching all the Uke Bros meltdown when you say you want Americans put before Ukrainians. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Russia doesnt want good relations, it wants to take territory. Your cowardice on this subject is hilarious. Cowardice lol. Ok Chief. It’s borderline hilarious watching all the Uke Bros meltdown when you say you want Americans put before Ukrainians. Isn’t it funny how they have to try and instill inferiority when people have their own opinions? FYI I’m a coward. I will fight scared as hell. |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:44:48 PM EDT
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I'd rather put that money towards securing our boarders. Don't give a crap about Russia or Ukraine, not our fight not our problem.
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:45:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We aren't sending our soldiers to die on their battlefields (and we won't). Lyndon Baines Johnson, October 21, 1964 |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:46:16 PM EDT
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Wonder how many warnings and bans we'll get. Only a specific group will get them, that much I'm sure of.
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:48:42 PM EDT
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We should just let the Russians have an easy win, that way we can have another cold war and the limited wars that went with it, we didn't spend THAT much in Vietnam or Korea, and it does't cost THAT much to build those v wing stealth bombers ($203 billion for a fleet of 100 B-21s) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Grumman_B-21_Raider or all the other costs that will go into fighting a resurgent Soviet Union fresh off an easy win in Ukraine.
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:51:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Cowardice lol. Ok Chief. It’s borderline hilarious watching all the Uke Bros meltdown when you say you want Americans put before Ukrainians. Lol, those posts are always self defeating because the bits they add trying to peer pressure or shame people just make it sound unpleasant and annoying. Maybe they can have their HOA send Russia a letter of reprimand or something |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 8:55:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The only thing Uke bros love more than gazing at photos of Volodymyr in green 5.11s is the report button.  Attached File |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:03:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The only thing Uke bros love more than gazing at photos of Volodymyr in green 5.11s is the report button. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/F84A650C-2406-46C9-B3D1-D3F7D7319381-693.gif lol, Zelensky could have skipped the war and become a model for LA Police Gear's petite section 
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:08:42 PM EDT
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It’s funny as shit watching all of you guys get so upset about Ukraine and knowing that you can’t do shit about it.
Just sitting on the internet for 18 months now yelling at the clouds. 
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:11:42 PM EDT
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emergency according to the world's biggest liar
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:20:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "We are not about to send American boys 9 or 10 thousand miles away from home to do what Asian boys ought to be doing for themselves." Lyndon Baines Johnson, October 21, 1964 So? Are you saying we're about to send an expeditionary force to Ukraine? |
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:23:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course not. You really get triggered by Ukraine "news." I think you actually post more than FadedSun, if that's possible. You should consider hobbies other than shitposting. 
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:24:14 PM EDT
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I’m good with that personally, I know others feel differently. I’m forced to spend a lot more for welfare rats, BS “scientific” studies, etc. At least this is grinding Russia down. Seems pretty cheap to me.
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:24:52 PM EDT
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I doubt most of the uke bros have ever been there. They probably don't have a Ukraine visa in their old passport.
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:26:08 PM EDT
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Russians did horrible things to my people for generations. Russians deaths are at about 50,000. That's about 2 pennies per dead sob Russian. Fuck em. How can I send more money?
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Posted: 8/10/2023 9:26:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You really get triggered by Ukraine "news." I think you actually post more than FadedSun, if that's possible. You should consider hobbies other than shitposting. His (and others) obsession with fadedsun is more disturbing than anything. The guy hasn't even posted in this thread and they somehow managed to make it about him. 
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