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Link Posted: 3/3/2023 2:59:51 PM EDT
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Send $10billion more so he can win.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 3:01:32 PM EDT
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No fuck Russia too?
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No, he openly hates freedom
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 3:02:52 PM EDT
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If leadership isn't confident that they can hold off an encirclement, yeah they should. I'm not sure how many men and how much equipment they have in the city, but I can't imagine they'd want to lose it all.
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I can't help but think of Stalingrad here. Hitler wouldn't let the 6th army leave, and they were destroyed in that city.  That example would seem to say that if they are in danger of being encircled, now is the time to pull back.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 3:03:24 PM EDT
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Maybe Ukraine should send Prigozin a participation trophy.

Packed in cotton of course.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 3:12:08 PM EDT
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When I said Ukr should negotiate a deal and surrender Crimea...I was called a Russia bot.  


Funny how that's exactly how it will end, regardless of whether Ukr negotiates.  It's like they want to prolong the war to get rich or something.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 3:28:01 PM EDT
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When I said Ukr should negotiate a deal and surrender Crimea...I was called a Russia bot.  


Funny how that's exactly how it will end, regardless of whether Ukr negotiates.  It's like they want to prolong the war to get rich or something.
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How the hell can you still advocate for this kind of stuff?  Vlad proved he wants at least half, but really all of Ukraine most likely when he invaded on 2/24/2022.  Most Ukrainians came to realize he wanted their country sometime between 2013-2015, after he took Crimea with his "little green men", flew in there, and gave a victory speech, and started funding an insurgency in the southeastern part of the country.  You give an inch, they'll take a mile.  You give Crimea and Donbas up, they'll take the rest of the country.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 3:35:31 PM EDT
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I hope this is sarcasm.



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I like the way she does her mouth!
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 4:42:41 PM EDT
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How the hell can you still advocate for this kind of stuff?  Vlad proved he wants at least half, but really all of Ukraine most likely when he invaded on 2/24/2022.  Most Ukrainians came to realize he wanted their country sometime between 2013-2015, after he took Crimea with his "little green men", flew in there, and gave a victory speech, and started funding an insurgency in the southeastern part of the country.  You give an inch, they'll take a mile.  You give Crimea and Donbas up, they'll take the rest of the country.
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When I said Ukr should negotiate a deal and surrender Crimea...I was called a Russia bot.  


Funny how that's exactly how it will end, regardless of whether Ukr negotiates.  It's like they want to prolong the war to get rich or something.


How the hell can you still advocate for this kind of stuff?  Vlad proved he wants at least half, but really all of Ukraine most likely when he invaded on 2/24/2022.  Most Ukrainians came to realize he wanted their country sometime between 2013-2015, after he took Crimea with his "little green men", flew in there, and gave a victory speech, and started funding an insurgency in the southeastern part of the country.  You give an inch, they'll take a mile.  You give Crimea and Donbas up, they'll take the rest of the country.



Because I understand the concept of end state.  

The thing that the Ukr Bros refuse to discuss....what happens next?  What is the end state and what are the second and third order effects?  


Putin 100% can not lose...he will be deposed, likely end up in prison or dead from his political rivals if he does.  He is only in office because the Russian people support him and the gauntlet has been thrown down.  He has a number of political rivals that are strong, capable, and want his job.  They are itching to end him...and they will if he loses popular support with the people.  His replacements are much worse than him in terms of being hard liners.  They consider him too soft.  

So...how do you "win" in a war where the opponent will be replaced with someone worse, should they lose the war?  That second order effect can turn victory into defeat.  

Putin has to win to some degree in order to keep Russian politics stable and prevent a larger war.  


The people thinking Russia will just quit and go home...are simply naive to the political situation in Russia and the ramifications of a Russian defeat.  


This war has to end in a way that doesn't include a hard line USSR style leader coming into power in Russia.  That victory would be worse than defeat.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 4:50:50 PM EDT
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I don't breath through my mouth. Nose all the way.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:25:43 PM EDT
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When I said Ukr should negotiate a deal and surrender Crimea...I was called a Russia bot.  


Funny how that's exactly how it will end, regardless of whether Ukr negotiates.  It's like they want to prolong the war to get rich or something.
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We should negotiate with Biden on the vaccine mandates and gun rights.

It will end up perfectly and he will honor the agreement
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:30:12 PM EDT
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Because I understand the concept of end state.  

The thing that the Ukr Bros refuse to discuss....what happens next?  What is the end state and what are the second and third order effects?  


Putin 100% can not lose...he will be deposed, likely end up in prison or dead from his political rivals if he does.  He is only in office because the Russian people support him and the gauntlet has been thrown down.  He has a number of political rivals that are strong, capable, and want his job.  They are itching to end him...and they will if he loses popular support with the people.  His replacements are much worse than him in terms of being hard liners.  They consider him too soft.  

So...how do you "win" in a war where the opponent will be replaced with someone worse, should they lose the war?  That second order effect can turn victory into defeat.  

Putin has to win to some degree in order to keep Russian politics stable and prevent a larger war.  


The people thinking Russia will just quit and go home...are simply naive to the political situation in Russia and the ramifications of a Russian defeat.  


This war has to end in a way that doesn't include a hard line USSR style leader coming into power in Russia.  That victory would be worse than defeat.
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Um, that's what Putin is.   The Russian military just sucks alot harder now and their chosen victim is alot tougher than unarmed czechs or polish civilians.

"Ukraine has to give up now or else Russia will wind up with a bad man in charge" is just silly.   We're already there.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:34:58 PM EDT
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Ukraine needs to withdraw from that city they are going to be encircled soon. They have held for months and bled the Russians dry there. They will retake it in a few months since Russia can't hold on to much anyway.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:42:31 PM EDT
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Ukraine needs to withdraw from that city they are going to be encircled soon. They have held for months and bled the Russians dry there. They will retake it in a few months since Russia can't hold on to much anyway.
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There are some indications that they're planning a withdrawal. To quote from today's ISW update:

"Ukrainian officials are setting informational conditions for a potential withdrawal from Bakhmut but have not indicated that Ukrainian forces intend to leave the city. Ukrainian Eastern Grouping of Forces Spokesperson Colonel Serhiy Cherevaty stated on March 2 that Ukrainian forces will conduct a tactical retreat from Bakhmut if there is a need to do so.[56] Cherevaty stated that Ukrainian forces’ main focus is to achieve strategic results and recalled that Ukrainian forces liberated large amounts of territory in Kharkiv Oblast and around Lyman, Donetsk Oblast following Russia’s costly offensive to capture Severodonetsk and Lysychansk in Luhansk Oblast."
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 5:44:26 PM EDT
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Um, that's what Putin is.   The Russian military just sucks alot harder now and their chosen victim is alot tougher than unarmed czechs or polish civilians.

"Ukraine has to give up now or else Russia will wind up with a bad man in charge" is just silly.   We're already there.
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But but Putin is a moderate

Link Posted: 3/3/2023 8:46:10 PM EDT
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Because I understand the concept of end state.  

The thing that the Ukr Bros refuse to discuss....what happens next?  What is the end state and what are the second and third order effects?  


Putin 100% can not lose...he will be deposed, likely end up in prison or dead from his political rivals if he does.  He is only in office because the Russian people support him and the gauntlet has been thrown down.  He has a number of political rivals that are strong, capable, and want his job.  They are itching to end him...and they will if he loses popular support with the people.  His replacements are much worse than him in terms of being hard liners.  They consider him too soft.  

So...how do you "win" in a war where the opponent will be replaced with someone worse, should they lose the war?  That second order effect can turn victory into defeat.  

Putin has to win to some degree in order to keep Russian politics stable and prevent a larger war.  


The people thinking Russia will just quit and go home...are simply naive to the political situation in Russia and the ramifications of a Russian defeat.  


This war has to end in a way that doesn't include a hard line USSR style leader coming into power in Russia.  That victory would be worse than defeat.
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How do you negotiate a treaty with a person who has already violated them against you?
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 8:54:48 PM EDT
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Ukraine needs to withdraw from that city they are going to be encircled soon. They have held for months and bled the Russians dry there. They will retake it in a few months since Russia can't hold on to much anyway.
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I sure hope they are watching the advance.  Ukraine hasn’t seem to be in the Stalin style “not one step back” plan.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 9:00:40 PM EDT
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Well, a native wrote that translation I'll bet.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 9:03:09 PM EDT
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But but Putin is a moderate

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If I know one thing for certain it is that things can always get worse.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 9:12:00 PM EDT
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Because I understand the concept of end state.  

The thing that the Ukr Bros refuse to discuss....what happens next?  What is the end state and what are the second and third order effects?  


Putin 100% can not lose...he will be deposed, likely end up in prison or dead from his political rivals if he does.  He is only in office because the Russian people support him and the gauntlet has been thrown down.  He has a number of political rivals that are strong, capable, and want his job.  They are itching to end him...and they will if he loses popular support with the people.  His replacements are much worse than him in terms of being hard liners.  They consider him too soft.  

So...how do you "win" in a war where the opponent will be replaced with someone worse, should they lose the war?  That second order effect can turn victory into defeat.  

Putin has to win to some degree in order to keep Russian politics stable and prevent a larger war.  


The people thinking Russia will just quit and go home...are simply naive to the political situation in Russia and the ramifications of a Russian defeat.  


This war has to end in a way that doesn't include a hard line USSR style leader coming into power in Russia.  That victory would be worse than defeat.
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If you let Putin have any part of Ukraine, he'll just use it to attack again later.  And Putin is likely to have a successor in the next decade regardless of the Ukraine outcome.  If the successor is going to be more hardline, that's just one less reason to cede territory.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 9:14:54 PM EDT
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Cool, but there are objectively less Ukrainians than Russians, and in not long if not already Russia could leave and there'd be barely any actual Ukrainians. A genocide of that nation.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 9:44:18 PM EDT
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Actually it didnt.

Russian propagandists claimed it would take 2 days to take Kyiv and they also declared victory over Ukraine on day 2 of the invasion.  

@ryan_ruck post your memes please
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That came from General Milleys mouth


Actually it didnt.

Russian propagandists claimed it would take 2 days to take Kyiv and they also declared victory over Ukraine on day 2 of the invasion.  

@ryan_ruck post your memes please

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Straight from Russian state media: The offensive of Russia and the new world - February 26, 2022

A new world is being born before our eyes. Russia's military operation in Ukraine has ushered in a new era - and in three dimensions at once. And of course, in the fourth, internal Russian. Here begins a new period both in ideology and in the very model of our socio-economic system - but this is worth talking about separately a little later.

Russia is restoring its unity - the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a great cost, yes, through the tragic events of a virtual civil war, because now brothers, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies, are still shooting at each other, but there will be no more Ukraine as anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness, gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together - in its entirety of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians. If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, then we would not only betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land.
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Now this problem is gone - Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state of part of the Russian world. Within what borders, in what form will the alliance with Russia be fixed (through the CSTO and the Eurasian Union or the Union State of Russia and Belarus )? This will be decided after the end is put in the history of Ukraine as anti-Russia. In any case, the period of the split of the Russian people is coming to an end.

And here begins the second dimension of the coming new era - it concerns Russia's relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting in geopolitical terms as a single whole. These relations have entered a new stage - the West sees the return of Russia to its historical borders in Europe . And he is loudly indignant at this, although in the depths of his soul he must admit to himself that it could not be otherwise.
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Link Posted: 3/3/2023 10:07:31 PM EDT
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He's 61 in actuality.

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He spent a decade or two in prison.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 10:08:26 PM EDT
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Straight from Russian state media: The offensive of Russia and the new world - February 26, 2022

A new world is being born before our eyes. Russia's military operation in Ukraine has ushered in a new era - and in three dimensions at once. And of course, in the fourth, internal Russian. Here begins a new period both in ideology and in the very model of our socio-economic system - but this is worth talking about separately a little later.

Russia is restoring its unity - the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a great cost, yes, through the tragic events of a virtual civil war, because now brothers, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies, are still shooting at each other, but there will be no more Ukraine as anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness, gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together - in its entirety of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians. If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, then we would not only betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land.
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Now this problem is gone - Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state of part of the Russian world. Within what borders, in what form will the alliance with Russia be fixed (through the CSTO and the Eurasian Union or the Union State of Russia and Belarus )? This will be decided after the end is put in the history of Ukraine as anti-Russia. In any case, the period of the split of the Russian people is coming to an end.

And here begins the second dimension of the coming new era - it concerns Russia's relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting in geopolitical terms as a single whole. These relations have entered a new stage - the West sees the return of Russia to its historical borders in Europe . And he is loudly indignant at this, although in the depths of his soul he must admit to himself that it could not be otherwise.
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You always come through
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 10:14:10 PM EDT
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@fadedsun

Straight from Russian state media: The offensive of Russia and the new world - February 26, 2022

A new world is being born before our eyes. Russia's military operation in Ukraine has ushered in a new era - and in three dimensions at once. And of course, in the fourth, internal Russian. Here begins a new period both in ideology and in the very model of our socio-economic system - but this is worth talking about separately a little later.

Russia is restoring its unity - the tragedy of 1991, this terrible catastrophe in our history, its unnatural dislocation, has been overcome. Yes, at a great cost, yes, through the tragic events of a virtual civil war, because now brothers, separated by belonging to the Russian and Ukrainian armies, are still shooting at each other, but there will be no more Ukraine as anti-Russia. Russia is restoring its historical fullness, gathering the Russian world, the Russian people together - in its entirety of Great Russians, Belarusians and Little Russians. If we had abandoned this, if we had allowed the temporary division to take hold for centuries, then we would not only betray the memory of our ancestors, but would also be cursed by our descendants for allowing the disintegration of the Russian land.
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Now this problem is gone - Ukraine has returned to Russia. This does not mean that its statehood will be liquidated, but it will be reorganized, re-established and returned to its natural state of part of the Russian world. Within what borders, in what form will the alliance with Russia be fixed (through the CSTO and the Eurasian Union or the Union State of Russia and Belarus )? This will be decided after the end is put in the history of Ukraine as anti-Russia. In any case, the period of the split of the Russian people is coming to an end.

And here begins the second dimension of the coming new era - it concerns Russia's relations with the West. Not even Russia, but the Russian world, that is, three states, Russia, Belarus and Ukraine, acting in geopolitical terms as a single whole. These relations have entered a new stage - the West sees the return of Russia to its historical borders in Europe . And he is loudly indignant at this, although in the depths of his soul he must admit to himself that it could not be otherwise.
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You should add the Pentagon to your meme list. As I recall, their estimates were similar.
Link Posted: 3/3/2023 10:17:31 PM EDT
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Yep, Ukraine doesn't have long. Russia is really putting it to them and will probably be in Kiev by April if not sooner.
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Yeah, this is contrary to what I’m being fed by the MSM. Hmmm…

Yep, Ukraine doesn't have long. Russia is really putting it to them and will probably be in Kiev by April if not sooner.

Do you remember who it was on here that predicted Ukraine’s army failing any Zelensky being ousted by 1 Mar?
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Do you remember who it was on here that predicted Ukraine’s army failing any Zelensky being ousted by 1 Mar?
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Probably ac365
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Our own fucking Generals were saying that shit pre invasion. Of course, I don’t think they believed Russia was actually going to invade, so they were still representing the Russian military as near peer in an effort to justify all the money we spend defending the Eurofags and enriching all the friends of the program.

It should be blatantly obvious to everyone how duped US taxpayers have been by spending trillions to defend the Europussies from Cold War era scrap metal hardware, floating shipwrecks and jets that fall from the sky from the use of any modern AA weapon.

These guys just keep getting fucked over by politicians, including the politicians that wear uniforms with stars on them.

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Ukraine is definitely on the ropes now!
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Yeah, this is contrary to what I’m being fed by the MSM. Hmmm…


Ukraine is definitely on the ropes now!


Industrial Military Machine will make sure it continues... Never fear
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I love the propaganda wars.

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Yup
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A staple food for the wet-brained incels of Arfcom.
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Our own fucking Generals were saying that shit pre invasion. Of course, I don’t think they believed Russia was actually going to invade, so they were still representing the Russian military as near peer in an effort to justify all the money we spend defending the Eurofags and enriching all the friends of the program.

It should be blatantly obvious to everyone how duped US taxpayers have been by spending trillions to defend the Europussies from Cold War era scrap metal hardware, floating shipwrecks and jets that fall from the sky from the use of any modern AA weapon.

These guys just keep getting fucked over by politicians, including the politicians that wear uniforms with stars on them.

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Do you remember who it was on here that predicted Ukraine’s army failing any Zelensky being ousted by 1 Mar?


Our own fucking Generals were saying that shit pre invasion. Of course, I don’t think they believed Russia was actually going to invade, so they were still representing the Russian military as near peer in an effort to justify all the money we spend defending the Eurofags and enriching all the friends of the program.

It should be blatantly obvious to everyone how duped US taxpayers have been by spending trillions to defend the Europussies from Cold War era scrap metal hardware, floating shipwrecks and jets that fall from the sky from the use of any modern AA weapon.

These guys just keep getting fucked over by politicians, including the politicians that wear uniforms with stars on them.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/240604/5C5CF0C6-7CB5-4F4A-BE4A-2D6B65832E34_jpe-2732925.JPG

I personally want a military that can monkey stomp any potential adversary.  Being “just strong enough” sounds like a good way to get into a war.
Link Posted: 3/4/2023 9:00:36 PM EDT
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My buddy says:

"Simple solutions for simple problems. Declare part or all of Ukraine a no fly zone, including artillery, drones, missles, rockets, in addition to fixed and rotary wing aircraft. For each breach of the no fly zone Putin commits, they receive a reciprocal response. No official boots on the ground, and removes any edge Ivan might have. With total air superiority, Ukraine would be free to effectively use some lend lease A-10s and AC-130s to stack some conscripted peasant/village communists.

Ukraine should charge Putin to return each dead communists to mother Russia."
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I personally want a military that can monkey stomp any potential adversary.  Being “just strong enough” sounds like a good way to get into a war.
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Do you remember who it was on here that predicted Ukraine’s army failing any Zelensky being ousted by 1 Mar?


Our own fucking Generals were saying that shit pre invasion. Of course, I don’t think they believed Russia was actually going to invade, so they were still representing the Russian military as near peer in an effort to justify all the money we spend defending the Eurofags and enriching all the friends of the program.

It should be blatantly obvious to everyone how duped US taxpayers have been by spending trillions to defend the Europussies from Cold War era scrap metal hardware, floating shipwrecks and jets that fall from the sky from the use of any modern AA weapon.

These guys just keep getting fucked over by politicians, including the politicians that wear uniforms with stars on them.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/240604/5C5CF0C6-7CB5-4F4A-BE4A-2D6B65832E34_jpe-2732925.JPG

I personally want a military that can monkey stomp any potential adversary.  Being “just strong enough” sounds like a good way to get into a war.


The Europussies, and their $18T GDP(EU only), can pay for their own monkey stomping of Russia’s garbage military.

These guys have been paying for it long enough.

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It would've held if we'd sent moar money.

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WELL JFC MAN WE NEED TO SEND THEM MORE MONEY!
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The Europussies, and their $18T GDP(EU only), can pay for their own monkey stomping of Russia’s garbage military.

These guys have been paying for it long enough.

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The Europeans aren’t a homogenous group.

They are doing their part, especially the Baltics, Poland, CZ, England, and germany
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The Europeans aren’t a homogenous group.

They are doing their part, especially the Baltics, Poland, CZ, England, and germany
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The Europussies, and their $18T GDP(EU only), can pay for their own monkey stomping of Russia’s garbage military.

These guys have been paying for it long enough.

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The Europeans aren’t a homogenous group.

They are doing their part, especially the Baltics, Poland, CZ, England, and germany


They share a very weak backbone and collectively just enough wits to take advantage of the incessant need for US politicians to prove that they care the most about…everything…with the use of these guys’ money.

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I’m not even going to bother asking you to define “their part”, because that type of mental gymnastics should be relegated to the big circle jerk thread.

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The Europussies, and their $18T GDP(EU only), can pay for their own monkey stomping of Russia’s garbage military.

These guys have been paying for it long enough.

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Do you remember who it was on here that predicted Ukraine’s army failing any Zelensky being ousted by 1 Mar?


Our own fucking Generals were saying that shit pre invasion. Of course, I don’t think they believed Russia was actually going to invade, so they were still representing the Russian military as near peer in an effort to justify all the money we spend defending the Eurofags and enriching all the friends of the program.

It should be blatantly obvious to everyone how duped US taxpayers have been by spending trillions to defend the Europussies from Cold War era scrap metal hardware, floating shipwrecks and jets that fall from the sky from the use of any modern AA weapon.

These guys just keep getting fucked over by politicians, including the politicians that wear uniforms with stars on them.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/240604/5C5CF0C6-7CB5-4F4A-BE4A-2D6B65832E34_jpe-2732925.JPG

I personally want a military that can monkey stomp any potential adversary.  Being “just strong enough” sounds like a good way to get into a war.


The Europussies, and their $18T GDP(EU only), can pay for their own monkey stomping of Russia’s garbage military.

These guys have been paying for it long enough.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/240604/7C9FE5E9-B876-4A58-BD7A-347101828543_jpe-2734601.JPG



Unionistas? They voted for it.
Link Posted: 3/5/2023 2:52:56 PM EDT
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They share a very weak backbone and collectively just enough wits to take advantage of the incessant need for US politicians to prove that they care the most about…everything…with the use of these guys’ money.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/240604/000E0685-7E30-4C46-B8D2-5AC214956C01_jpe-2734959.JPG

I’m not even going to bother asking you to define “their part”, because that type of mental gymnastics should be relegated to the big circle jerk thread.

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The Czech Republic and Poland sent hundreds of tanks and AFVs.

They are also acting as repair facilities for broken and damaged ukrainain equipment

Compare it by GDP which is a more accurate measure.

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Zelensky wants Americans to die for U-Crane.

I'm willing to volunteer Antifa(ct), Bowel Loose Moment and other progressive leftists there.
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Link Posted: 3/9/2023 3:28:57 AM EDT
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3/9/23 and bakhmut is still in its proper hands.
Link Posted: 3/9/2023 3:47:09 AM EDT
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The Europussies, and their $18T GDP(EU only), can pay for their own monkey stomping of Russia’s garbage military.

These guys have been paying for it long enough.

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Do you remember who it was on here that predicted Ukraine’s army failing any Zelensky being ousted by 1 Mar?


Our own fucking Generals were saying that shit pre invasion. Of course, I don’t think they believed Russia was actually going to invade, so they were still representing the Russian military as near peer in an effort to justify all the money we spend defending the Eurofags and enriching all the friends of the program.

It should be blatantly obvious to everyone how duped US taxpayers have been by spending trillions to defend the Europussies from Cold War era scrap metal hardware, floating shipwrecks and jets that fall from the sky from the use of any modern AA weapon.

These guys just keep getting fucked over by politicians, including the politicians that wear uniforms with stars on them.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/240604/5C5CF0C6-7CB5-4F4A-BE4A-2D6B65832E34_jpe-2732925.JPG

I personally want a military that can monkey stomp any potential adversary.  Being “just strong enough” sounds like a good way to get into a war.


The Europussies, and their $18T GDP(EU only), can pay for their own monkey stomping of Russia’s garbage military.

These guys have been paying for it long enough.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/240604/7C9FE5E9-B876-4A58-BD7A-347101828543_jpe-2734601.JPG




LOL.  All hail the proletariat!  I swear, a lot of you guys were closet Leftists.
Link Posted: 3/9/2023 6:17:55 AM EDT
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Our own fucking Generals were saying that shit pre invasion. Of course, I don’t think they believed Russia was actually going to invade, so they were still representing the Russian military as near peer in an effort to justify all the money we spend defending the Eurofags and enriching all the friends of the program.

It should be blatantly obvious to everyone how duped US taxpayers have been by spending trillions to defend the Europussies from Cold War era scrap metal hardware, floating shipwrecks and jets that fall from the sky from the use of any modern AA weapon.

These guys just keep getting fucked over by politicians, including the politicians that wear uniforms with stars on them.

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Is this guys name "Trigger"?  Is he on ARF.com?  he should be..
Link Posted: 3/9/2023 6:30:17 AM EDT
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The Europussies, and their $18T GDP(EU only), can pay for their own monkey stomping of Russia’s garbage military.

These guys have been paying for it long enough.

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Cry me a river. Democrats straight up said out loud they intended to destroy coal, petroleum, hell every blue collar industry the country is based on… and what did the union boys in hard hats do? Voted D, overwhelmingly
Link Posted: 3/9/2023 6:40:01 AM EDT
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Pull back 10 miles to the next town, straighten your lines. Repeat. Bleed them out.
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How many ukraine kids are dead now? Oh it's a secret Haven't they both lost the majority of older experienced at this point ?
Link Posted: 3/9/2023 6:54:21 AM EDT
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He gave another speech today at the center of Bakhmut, asking Zelensky to get civilians out of the city and the surrounding towns and warning about upcoming offenses. I don't know how he has survived this long going to the front lines, he loves to troll but the dude is on borrowed time.

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He gave another speech today at the center of Bakhmut, asking Zelensky to get civilians out of the city and the surrounding towns and warning about upcoming offenses. I don't know how he has survived this long going to the front lines, he loves to troll but the dude is on borrowed time.

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He's had more than one Telegram video event cut short by shelling.  Even odds whether its the Russian mil tipping off the Ukrainians or just good intel.
Link Posted: 3/9/2023 6:25:29 PM EDT
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You can't starve out Russia dumbass. Your not going to bled them out either. It's going to boil down to the Russian population and how bad they want it.
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