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From memory, the news media coverage of ‘Russia flybys’ back in 2014/2015 was pushing propaganda to justify war.

From memory, Hillary talked up war with Russia in 2015 during the election season.

It seems the deep state and democrat party has wanted this war for 7+ years.

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It's all fake. Russia has never historically been an aggressor. It's just propaganda.

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Let us be clear.

Zelensky is 100% Puppet.  He was installed by a Regime Change operation, the "Orange Revolution" conducted by the US State Department and CIA under Obama and Clinton, and various George Soros funded organizations.  This is kind of like the old mobster thing, "we protect you and make sure you win, you gotta do some things for us".  It's the oldest kind of political maneuvering.  We installed him, then we get what we want out of the situation - which was, in this case, a Forward Operating Base from which to occupy the former Soviet satellite state with personnel that could be construed to be "US Forces" and conduct anti-Russian propaganda/psychological/destabilization ops, and possibly even some actual fighting via proxies in the Donbass region.  We have been conducting these operations ever since.  

You can't throw rocks at a guy from the top of a hill forever, eventually they are going to try and knock you off that hill.  They have done plenty to provoke Russia into the invasion.  The people in power aren't going to tell us what they did, BUT, follow the money, AND, understand why this propaganda effort against US is so necessary.  

Like I posted earlier, the State Department was spending BILLIONS in the Ukraine.  Judicial Watch was trying to get to the bottom of what they were actually funding with that money and got nowhere.  That money was being spent trying to politically and perhaps physically destabilize Russia's western flank.  Now that Russia invaded, those same elements have turned that money and attention to trying to propagandize US over the situation.

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It's all fake. Russia has never historically been an aggressor. It's just propaganda.

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Lol.

I was talking with my father how I feel bad for Poland because they’re not like the rest of Europe but fuck Europe. Russia is not a threat to us. Russia probably isn’t a threat to Europe. But if Russia is causing issues, Europe and Europe alone should take care of it.

It’s so hard to break the boomer.

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That is a good question and I don't know the answer.  Perhaps my timeline is off.  I have, however, heard the tapes of whats-her-name from the US State Department having the phone convo where they talk about Zelensky being their guy and how they needed to rally political support around him from some of the other countries who are pulling the strings there.  If the Obama State Department was supporting him, then there were strings attached.  And those strings involve supporting the larger agenda.  Take that to the bank.

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Russia is now talking about taking Alaska back from the US..............and the Alaskan governor told him to piss off

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I suspect we'll soon see arfcommers arguing that Alaska was unjustly stolen and needs to be returned, as the Russians were there first. We'll probably see some very creative twists in the history as well. Of course, anyone who offers a more realistic version is clearly in on it, as that version will have been the same one some Democrat no doubt espoused.

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I'll help you out.  It was 2019.  His entire campaign and election to the presidency of Ukraine occurred while Trump was in office.

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Russia is now talking about taking Alaska back from the US..............and the Alaskan governor told him to piss off

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It's not just Dems. Even the fucking Swiss took a side on this.

When Russian commies were killing millions of their own people and doing some ethnic cleansing, that was fine. When all the shit the Nazis did came out, no worries. China putting minorities into camps and harvesting their organs, that's their own business. Russian invasion of Afghanistan, Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, not a Swiss problem.

Russia invaded the Ukraine - that's over the line!

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I've been seeing a new thing pop up on Social Media "Putin won't stop at Ukraine"...."Poland knows it.........etc".

So I started going down the rabbit hole, since it's clearly a propaganda effort aimed at securing more support for war against Russia.  The name of the group sponsoring these paid ads is "Community Conversations for America".  It has all the hallmarks of the typical DNC/Soros/Other commie NGO efforts.  

- Misleading name
- Strong effort to appear "nuetral" and "unbiased" on one hand, while heavily promoting an extreme position elsewhere
- Frequent references to "threats" to "our democracy"
- Obvious big time funding

A peek at their website shows a group that is almost desperate in it's attempts to paint many Conservative viewpoints, even ones that have clear opportunity to come up organically due to strong evidence, as "misinformation", and portray itself as an organization dedicated to "non-partisan" influence in public discourse.

From their site:

"Mission Statement
We are committed to addressing the growing civic divide that has left our nation more polarized than any time since the Civil War. This polarization poses an urgent threat to America that goes far beyond arguments at family dinner tables or bickering on social media. It puts our national security and the very foundation of our Democracy at risk.

By sewing disinformation into the fabric of our most personal conversations, our enemies are effectively exploiting, dividing, and distracting us from the real issues facing our nation and communities. That is why Community Conversations is a project for America. It brings Americans together to stop fighting and start listening because our country can’t afford to be pulled further apart. Our guiding principles are simple:

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“Out of Many, One” : America’s strength is built on compromise and collaboration. We won’t all agree all the time. And we shouldn’t. But we firmly believe that we can have different perspectives, cultures and opinions while still sharing the beliefs and ideals that define our democracy."


It's gaslighting alright, and pretty damned good.  They manage to avoid almost all of the "reeeeeee" that winds up underpinning Leftist propaganda, but just couldn't avoid the "our democracy" reference.  Boy they sure are married to that shit.

Link left cold on purpose:  https://communityconversationsforamerica.org/

That leads me to my next question: WHY is an organization that purports to have been founded to "combat the polarization of public discourse", running paid ads to slam Putin and generate support to fight him?

I would like to know who is actually behind this.  It kind of has a "Lincoln Project" stench about it......I also wonder if they aren't also funding pro-Ukraine shills on social media..........

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And it is not just Marxists.

The last time there was a true hot conflict in Europe there were basically three sides. (Simplified)

The German/Austrian/Italian "Axis" Totalitarian Facists - "National Socialists"
Hitler, Mussolini

The Russians - Totalitarian Collectivists - "Communists" Stalin

The UK/USA/French- Western Allies "Capitalists" Eisenhower, Churchill, FDR

It is becoming clear (at least to me) that the left has been infiltrated not by "Commies" although certain commie groups are used.

But rather a Central European glitterati  and their corporate partners that are actually influencing US policy (SEC,FDA,EPA, etc)

It is not "National Socialism" but "Global Socialism"

I am seeing a lot of references to this revelation these days: "Fourth industrial  revolution" ( anytime a son of a NAZI General publicly dreams of a FOURTH anything it is creepy AF)  "Liberal World Order" "rethinking capitalism" etc. etc.

We need Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, Patton, McArthur, and McCarthy to remind us that we view both the Totalitarian elitists and communists as adversaries.

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Marxists, national socialists, fascists, global socialists - it's all minor variations in the same thing. Authoritarian ideologues.

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It's not just Dems. Even the fucking Swiss took a side on this.

When Russian commies were killing millions of their own people and doing some ethnic cleansing, that was fine. When all the shit the Nazis did came out, no worries. China putting minorities into camps and harvesting their organs, that's their own business. Russian invasion of Afghanistan, Iraqi invasion of Kuwait, not a Swiss problem.

Russia invaded the Ukraine - that's over the line!

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How the fuck do full grown adults not know the term gaslighting?

You'd think on a site where everyone claims their spouse is BPD, everyone would know what it means.

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This is who owns the domain.

https://www.gmmb.com/

Their biggest customers are all gov.

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Its BS this isn't 1939 different world

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Fuck the Ukraine.

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Sounds like a Soros operation.

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Would the left hate Putin as much if they didn't think that he was besties with Trump?

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Would the left hate Putin as much if they didn't think that he was besties with Trump?

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That leads me to my next question: WHY is an organization that purports to have been founded to "combat the polarization of public discourse", running paid ads to slam Putin and generate support to fight him?

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War against Russia?

Russia invaded a indepentant country becuase Putin chose to follow loons revanchist like Dugin.

I feel sorry for the Russian people who once again bleed for the whims of their leaders. Putin support in the west is no different than supporting Nazi Germany or Imperial Japan.

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Would the left hate Putin as much if they didn't think that he was besties with Trump?