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Posted: 7/3/2023 1:57:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. It don't have a goddam thing to do with what any democrat says about him, it's his own actions and words against Trump, |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 1:59:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Look at what countied voted Democrat during gov race 2018: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Florida_gubernatorial_election#:~:text=After%20the%20recount%20was%20complete,over%2050%25%20of%20the%20vote. And then look at what counties voted dem during 2016 2020 presidential race and get back to me with your nonsense. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Democrats turned out to vote en masse in 2018 BECAUSE of Trump. They gained 41 seats in the house and 7 governorships. His endorsement likely hurt in the general election (although probably helped in the primary). Look at what countied voted Democrat during gov race 2018: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Florida_gubernatorial_election#:~:text=After%20the%20recount%20was%20complete,over%2050%25%20of%20the%20vote. And then look at what counties voted dem during 2016 2020 presidential race and get back to me with your nonsense. No correlation whatsoever. Look what counties went his way in 2022. ETA: are you trying to claim that Trump was not the driving force for the “blue wave” in 2018? |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:14:06 PM EDT
[#3]
That's not how elections and voting works. Apathy makes people stay at home, not vote for the other candidate.
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:14:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Trump was bashing DeSantis for months including three days before his reelection. DeSantis owes Trump nothing at this point. Trump being the egotistical twat that he is couldn't stand DeSantis being popular. DeSantis hasn't said anything about Trump that's not true. He goes after trumps rino record while Trump makes up stupid nicknames and attacks him for being too conservative. The election was in 2018, and it's the ONLY reason he was elected in the first place. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:17:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ok sure. Followed the polling closely of a gubernatorial race in another state. And we’re back to believing polls again? I think you're mixing shit up. Go look at that link that I posted and see how close the election was. Ron won ONLY because of Trump's STRONG endorsement and rallying for him. Ron picked a hell of a way to repay that help, and don't think the entire country didn't notice how poorly Ron choose afterwards, to throw his hat in agaisnt Trump. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:17:46 PM EDT
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He reminds me of a used car dealer I used to know.
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:18:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The election was in 2018, and it's the ONLY reason he was elected in the first place. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Trump was bashing DeSantis for months including three days before his reelection. DeSantis owes Trump nothing at this point. Trump being the egotistical twat that he is couldn't stand DeSantis being popular. DeSantis hasn't said anything about Trump that's not true. He goes after trumps rino record while Trump makes up stupid nicknames and attacks him for being too conservative. The election was in 2018, and it's the ONLY reason he was elected in the first place.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:18:59 PM EDT
[#8]
Who is Rob DeSantis?
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:22:49 PM EDT
[#9]
I know you Florida guys love him and it seems others do to so why isn’t he leading in the polls?
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:23:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't vote for him in the primaries, didn't know much about him. Since he's been in office, nothing but win after win! He not only talks the talk, he walks the walk. Much smarter than Trump, better. He was much better than Adam Putnam in the primary. Putnam was the RPOF's swamp pick @PR361. DeSantis was a dark horse candidate that ruined Putnam's run. DeSantis originally was going to run for the Senate, Maro Rubio's seat. The problem is Rubio chickened out in 2016, so DeSantis instead ran for Governor. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:24:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. You weren't paying attention to the polling at that time I see. I was. Trump got him elected. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Democrats turned out to vote en masse in 2018 BECAUSE of Trump. They gained 41 seats in the house and 7 governorships. His endorsement likely hurt in the general election (although probably helped in the primary). Lol. You weren't paying attention to the polling at that time I see. I was. Trump got him elected. I have him blocked for a reason. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:25:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not how elections and voting works. Apathy makes people stay at home, not vote for the other candidate. Bingo |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:25:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I know you Florida guys love him and it seems others do to so why isn't he leading in the polls? I mean, they are the ones claiming that the guy being attacked by every leftist inside and outside the country is a RINO. Hell, even the government of Mexico is attacking him, so he must be a RINO. 
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:26:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Lol. It don't have a goddam thing to do with what any democrat says about him, it's his own actions and words against Trump, a guy who literally is the only reason that Desantis beat that drug riddled democrat shoe-in whatever his name was several years ago. The big tall strong black guy that would've wiped the floor with Desantis had Trump not endorsed him. The same guy found passed out naked with drugs and shit all over, and his gay lover. This guy: What happened to Andrew Gillum? On May 4, after a nearly three-week trial, jurors acquitted Gillum on a single count of making false statements but couldn't reach a verdict on 18 other conspiracy and wire fraud counts against both defendants.May 15, 2023 And lol@all the desantis "rino" pussyhurt. Take it as a figure of speech and not literal. He's a "rino". He did himself with his clownish actions against the presumptive nominee, Trump, who is the best we got right now. The thing is, Putnam was polling worse than DeSantis was against Gillum. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:28:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yet be won in 22 by 20 points with Trump attacking him. Won counties Trump lost. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/114465/1000002201_jpg-2872373.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Trump was bashing DeSantis for months including three days before his reelection. DeSantis owes Trump nothing at this point. Trump being the egotistical twat that he is couldn't stand DeSantis being popular. DeSantis hasn't said anything about Trump that's not true. He goes after trumps rino record while Trump makes up stupid nicknames and attacks him for being too conservative. The election was in 2018, and it's the ONLY reason he was elected in the first place. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/114465/1000002201_jpg-2872373.JPG You are comparing a presidential election year vs an off year. 
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:29:43 PM EDT
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I'm a realist.
One man, even the President, in the course of eight years is not going to be able to single handed fixed all of our problems that are the result of over a century of progressive leftism. However, DeSantis will likely accomplish one or perhaps even two signature pieces of legislation while President since he will not be limited to just four years and can run again for a second term if elected. Unlike Trump, who is a lame duck president if he wins since a President can only serve two terms. I also think that DeSantis has a better chance of getting something done in the Congress than Trump, because unlike Trump the Congress has not impeached him multiple times and he does not have a purely adversarial relationship with them. Primarily, I think it's time to turn the page in this Republic's story and close out the Boomer Chapter. Boomers have had over 30+ years and I think it's extremely clear that the Republic is far worse off than it was when they took over. I'll concede that there are number of factors that go into that, but at the end of the day these negative changes have occurred under Boomer leadership. It's time for the next generation to step up. In short, you did your best Pa Pa, go rest now Gen X has it from here. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:29:44 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know you Florida guys love him and it seems others do to so why isn't he leading in the polls?  |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:31:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not how elections and voting works. Apathy makes people stay at home, not vote for the other candidate. I assume that’s a response to me. And 2020 directly contradicts your assertion. People turned out in droves to vote against Trump, not for Biden. Democrats turned out in 2018 to vote against republicans as they saw them as an extension of Trump. Is your position the house republicans were so disliked in their own districts as to lose 41seats in 2018 and Trump didn’t motivate them whatsoever? |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:37:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anyone who voted "just another RINO" is a fucking moron with zero critical thinking skills who mindlessly parrots whatever Trump tells them to believe. +1 |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:38:58 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Because Trump has them addicted to his bullshit. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmM7sDPVoAA-lZK.jpg:large That's a good graphic, because Trump is so geriatric it's probably only a matter of time before he needs a CPAP machine just like Biden is apparently using right now. Enough with the geriatrics folks. If a man in his late 70's or 80's was going to save America, he would have done so long ago. Boomers have had the presidency since Clinton in 1992 and their time to be in charge has come and gone. We need leaders who are in their cognitive and professional prime. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:41:58 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: As opposed to an anti-2a NY liberal populist? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: A RINO wrapped in a populist, culture warrior hologram. As opposed to an anti-2a NY liberal populist? The question wasn't as opposed to anyone. It is my opinion based on what I see, hear and read based on the circles he runs in, who he serves and who runs and advises his campaign. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:42:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are comparing a presidential election year vs an off year. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Trump was bashing DeSantis for months including three days before his reelection. DeSantis owes Trump nothing at this point. Trump being the egotistical twat that he is couldn't stand DeSantis being popular. DeSantis hasn't said anything about Trump that's not true. He goes after trumps rino record while Trump makes up stupid nicknames and attacks him for being too conservative. The election was in 2018, and it's the ONLY reason he was elected in the first place. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/114465/1000002201_jpg-2872373.JPG You are comparing a presidential election year vs an off year. Your boy, who he is responding to, just did the same thing. Quoted: Look at what countied voted Democrat during gov race 2018: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_Florida_gubernatorial_election#:~:text=After%20the%20recount%20was%20complete,over%2050%25%20of%20the%20vote. And then look at what counties voted dem during 2016 2020 presidential race and get back to me with your nonsense. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:45:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The question wasn't as opposed to anyone. It is my opinion based on what I see, hear and read based on the circles he runs in, who he serves and who runs and advises his campaign. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: A RINO wrapped in a populist, culture warrior hologram. As opposed to an anti-2a NY liberal populist? The question wasn't as opposed to anyone. It is my opinion based on what I see, hear and read based on the circles he runs in, who he serves and who runs and advises his campaign. He isn’t a RINO, he is GOPe now. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:48:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because Trump has them addicted to his bullshit. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmM7sDPVoAA-lZK.jpg:large Come on. I don’t buy that bullshit for 2 seconds and neither do you really. You can say what you want but if it’s one thing I know Trump supporters TRUST him. Maybe it’s unfounded, maybe it’s misplaced, maybe it’s stupid, I don’t know but I do know this. Where I’m at I saw people that never voted before, people that hadn’t voted since Reagen and others registered to vote for Trump. I know that, I helped them and heard their stories. They TRUST the guy, for all his bullshit, all his mistakes, all the imperfections, all the crap they TRUST him. And here’s the fact. They will never trust DeSantis and they won’t lift a finger to vote for him. To them he’s just another RINO republican shill. That’s just the way it is. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:50:39 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know you Florida guys love him and it seems others do to so why isn’t he leading in the polls?  Living Colour - Cult Of Personality (Official Video) |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:51:03 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: That's not how elections and voting works. Apathy makes people stay at home, not vote for the other candidate. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:52:40 PM EDT
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I like him.
However right now I'm leaning more towards Vivek |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:58:50 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Come on. I don’t buy that bullshit for 2 seconds and neither do you really. You can say what you want but if it’s one thing I know Trump supporters TRUST him. Maybe it’s unfounded, maybe it’s misplaced, maybe it’s stupid, I don’t know but I do know this. Where I’m at I saw people that never voted before, people that hadn’t voted since Reagen and others registered to vote for Trump. I know that, I helped them and heard their stories. They TRUST the guy, for all his bullshit, all his mistakes, all the imperfections, all the crap they TRUST him. And here’s the fact. They will never trust DeSantis and they won’t lift a finger to vote for him. To them he’s just another RINO republican shill. That’s just the way it is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because Trump has them addicted to his bullshit. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmM7sDPVoAA-lZK.jpg:large Come on. I don’t buy that bullshit for 2 seconds and neither do you really. You can say what you want but if it’s one thing I know Trump supporters TRUST him. Maybe it’s unfounded, maybe it’s misplaced, maybe it’s stupid, I don’t know but I do know this. Where I’m at I saw people that never voted before, people that hadn’t voted since Reagen and others registered to vote for Trump. I know that, I helped them and heard their stories. They TRUST the guy, for all his bullshit, all his mistakes, all the imperfections, all the crap they TRUST him. And here’s the fact. They will never trust DeSantis and they won’t lift a finger to vote for him. To them he’s just another RINO republican shill. That’s just the way it is. Not saying you’re wrong, but I know people you describe in your third paragraph that did the same to vote AGAINST Trump in 2020. He is certainly a polarizing figure and motivated people to vote who ordinarily would not have. The question is which side does he motivate more? |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:59:11 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like him. However right now I'm leaning more towards Vivek Listen to his podcast with Mike Rowe (Ep. 308). I listened today, which is the first time I really sat and listened to him. He makes sense, seems to be principled, is going even to black neighborhoods and LISTENING to the voters (Not too many Conservatives do this), and I see good things for him if not now, in the future. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 2:59:53 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Like when Trump told voters in Georgia's 2021 run-off-elections for the Senate to stay home since the system was rigged? Republicans then sure stayed home and that gave the Democrats TWO FUCKING SEATS. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: That's not how elections and voting works. Apathy makes people stay at home, not vote for the other candidate. Apathy is not a word I would use to describe voters when it comes to Trump. He does a good job motivating democrats to the polls. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:00:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He isn’t a RINO, he is GOPe now. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A RINO wrapped in a populist, culture warrior hologram. As opposed to an anti-2a NY liberal populist? The question wasn't as opposed to anyone. It is my opinion based on what I see, hear and read based on the circles he runs in, who he serves and who runs and advises his campaign. He isn’t a RINO, he is GOPe now. You're right. I even thought that after I posted it but I didn't want to edit after I was quoted. To be clear though I will still vote for the guy if he gets the nomination. Also though, it is intriguing to me how most of the Desantis supporters/believers are tearing down the support structure Desantis would need to win the general by being so pissy about how Trump, and the massive grass roots support he garners, is absolutely stomping a mud hole in his bid. It's absolutely counterproductive to attack Trump supporters as brainwashed idiots when Desantis would need everyone of them for a chance to win. If Desantis has the better ideas, platform, policies, surely he will pull ahead and win. Case and point Vivek. I put him as my first choice if I thought he had a chance. There is no cult of Trump holding back DeSantis. DeSantis has GOPe stink on him and we are smelling it IMO. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:00:48 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Why the fuck you asking our opinion without throwing your own?? This thread wreaks of shareblue or whatever the fuck they call themselves these days. Yep, shit thread from a shit poster. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:06:53 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Come on. I don’t buy that bullshit for 2 seconds and neither do you really. You can say what you want but if it’s one thing I know Trump supporters TRUST him. Maybe it’s unfounded, maybe it’s misplaced, maybe it’s stupid, I don’t know but I do know this. Where I’m at I saw people that never voted before, people that hadn’t voted since Reagen and others registered to vote for Trump. I know that, I helped them and heard their stories. They TRUST the guy, for all his bullshit, all his mistakes, all the imperfections, all the crap they TRUST him. And here’s the fact. They will never trust DeSantis and they won’t lift a finger to vote for him. To them he’s just another RINO republican shill. That’s just the way it is. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Because Trump has them addicted to his bullshit. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmM7sDPVoAA-lZK.jpg:large Come on. I don’t buy that bullshit for 2 seconds and neither do you really. You can say what you want but if it’s one thing I know Trump supporters TRUST him. Maybe it’s unfounded, maybe it’s misplaced, maybe it’s stupid, I don’t know but I do know this. Where I’m at I saw people that never voted before, people that hadn’t voted since Reagen and others registered to vote for Trump. I know that, I helped them and heard their stories. They TRUST the guy, for all his bullshit, all his mistakes, all the imperfections, all the crap they TRUST him. And here’s the fact. They will never trust DeSantis and they won’t lift a finger to vote for him. To them he’s just another RINO republican shill. That’s just the way it is. Yes, Trump supporters TRUST him. With the 2A. After his anti-2A actions.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:27:52 PM EDT
[#34]
I have been told that he is literally Hitler.
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:29:55 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I like him. However right now I'm leaning more towards Vivek I like Vivek's positions. But if he was to become POTUS, the deep state would run rings around him for 4 years. Mr. Smith Goes To Washington was a fantasy. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:31:25 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Not saying you’re wrong, but I know people you describe in your third paragraph that did the same to vote AGAINST Trump in 2020. He is certainly a polarizing figure and motivated people to vote who ordinarily would not have. The question is which side does he motivate more? I saw them too. Saw the same thing for FBHO. The difference was the ones voting against him in 2020 were hate motivated. The ones voting for FBHO in 09 and 12 thought he was going to pay their rent and remodel the kitchen. The ones voting for Trump were excited to vote to support him and help the country. Different things. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:34:42 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes, Trump supporters TRUST him. With the 2A. After his anti-2A actions. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/thefbomb-182.gif Where did I say anything about 2A stuff? A lot of the people I registered and spoke to couldn’t tell you one end of a gun from the other. It may come as a shock but not all people vote according to 2A issues. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:35:47 PM EDT
[#38]
I just to like DeSantis, not any more, he is some one who needs to become smart for the rrest of the country, he feels that been mean is the way, not for him.
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:40:15 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're right. I even thought that after I posted it but I didn't want to edit after I was quoted. To be clear though I will still vote for the guy if he gets the nomination. Also though, it is intriguing to me how most of the Desantis supporters/believers are tearing down the support structure Desantis would need to win the general by being so pissy about how Trump, and the massive grass roots support he garners, is absolutely stomping a mud hole in his bid. It's absolutely counterproductive to attack Trump supporters as brainwashed idiots when Desantis would need everyone of them for a chance to win. If Desantis has the better ideas, platform, policies, surely he will pull ahead and win. Case in point Vivek. I put him as my first choice if I thought he had a chance. There is no cult of Trump holding back DeSantis. DeSantis has GOPe stink on him and we are smelling it IMO.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:47:37 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Where did I say anything about 2A stuff? A lot of the people I registered and spoke to couldn’t tell you one end of a gun from the other. It may come as a shock but not all people vote according to 2A issues. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, Trump supporters TRUST him. With the 2A. After his anti-2A actions. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/thefbomb-182.gif Where did I say anything about 2A stuff? A lot of the people I registered and spoke to couldn’t tell you one end of a gun from the other. It may come as a shock but not all people vote according to 2A issues. You said, "They TRUST the guy, for all his bullshit" I was simply agreeing with you and providing an example of his bullshit. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:51:15 PM EDT
[#41]
I like him but would never suck his nuts, some people like to suck politicians' nuts.
No one person is going to change the direction of this country, but the right leader might help to a small extent . |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:54:02 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I know you Florida guys love him and it seems others do to so why isn’t he leading in the polls? Same polls that said it was Hillarys turn. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:54:20 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You said, "They TRUST the guy, for all his bullshit" I was simply agreeing with you and providing an example of his bullshit. Agreed. What I’m saying is all people don’t care about 2A things no matter how much we would like them to. And they don’t vote on it either. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 3:56:57 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Same polls that said it was Hillarys turn. You’re comparing this to Hillary? Man, that’s REALLY reaching. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 4:09:31 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I saw them too. Saw the same thing for FBHO. The difference was the ones voting against him in 2020 were hate motivated. The ones voting for FBHO in 09 and 12 thought he was going to pay their rent and remodel the kitchen. The ones voting for Trump were excited to vote to support him and help the country. Different things. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not saying you're wrong, but I know people you describe in your third paragraph that did the same to vote AGAINST Trump in 2020. He is certainly a polarizing figure and motivated people to vote who ordinarily would not have. The question is which side does he motivate more? I saw them too. Saw the same thing for FBHO. The difference was the ones voting against him in 2020 were hate motivated. The ones voting for FBHO in 09 and 12 thought he was going to pay their rent and remodel the kitchen. The ones voting for Trump were excited to vote to support him and help the country. Different things. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 4:11:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Where did I say anything about 2A stuff? A lot of the people I registered and spoke to couldn't tell you one end of a gun from the other. It may come as a shock but not all people vote according to 2A issues. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yes, Trump supporters TRUST him. With the 2A. After his anti-2A actions. /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/thefbomb-182.gif Where did I say anything about 2A stuff? A lot of the people I registered and spoke to couldn't tell you one end of a gun from the other. It may come as a shock but not all people vote according to 2A issues. Obama voters voted for free shit, Trump voters voted for free shit. The difference was the manner that free shit was handed out. One was through direct government welfare and the other was through crony capitalism and artificial inflation of the stock market. Both got what they wanted, more money. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 4:11:38 PM EDT
[#47]
Florida Man thread.
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Posted: 7/3/2023 4:13:35 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You're right. I even thought that after I posted it but I didn't want to edit after I was quoted. To be clear though I will still vote for the guy if he gets the nomination. Also though, it is intriguing to me how most of the Desantis supporters/believers are tearing down the support structure Desantis would need to win the general by being so pissy about how Trump, and the massive grass roots support he garners, is absolutely stomping a mud hole in his bid. It's absolutely counterproductive to attack Trump supporters as brainwashed idiots when Desantis would need everyone of them for a chance to win. If Desantis has the better ideas, platform, policies, surely he will pull ahead and win. Case and point Vivek. I put him as my first choice if I thought he had a chance. There is no cult of Trump holding back DeSantis. DeSantis has GOPe stink on him and we are smelling it IMO. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: A RINO wrapped in a populist, culture warrior hologram. As opposed to an anti-2a NY liberal populist? The question wasn't as opposed to anyone. It is my opinion based on what I see, hear and read based on the circles he runs in, who he serves and who runs and advises his campaign. He isn't a RINO, he is GOPe now. You're right. I even thought that after I posted it but I didn't want to edit after I was quoted. To be clear though I will still vote for the guy if he gets the nomination. Also though, it is intriguing to me how most of the Desantis supporters/believers are tearing down the support structure Desantis would need to win the general by being so pissy about how Trump, and the massive grass roots support he garners, is absolutely stomping a mud hole in his bid. It's absolutely counterproductive to attack Trump supporters as brainwashed idiots when Desantis would need everyone of them for a chance to win. If Desantis has the better ideas, platform, policies, surely he will pull ahead and win. Case and point Vivek. I put him as my first choice if I thought he had a chance. There is no cult of Trump holding back DeSantis. DeSantis has GOPe stink on him and we are smelling it IMO. The truth is, on the state level, all the GOPe folks are Trump folks. |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 4:19:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And here’s the fact. They will never trust DeSantis and they won’t lift a finger to vote for him. To them he’s just another RINO republican shill. That’s just the way it is. That’s fine. And perhaps they get their wish and trump is the nominee. But we should not have to hear a word from that point forward ever again about stolen election or any other nonsense though. If trump is the guy the right puts up he will lose, again. Maybe that’s what his voters really want so they can spend another 4 years playing the victim without having to put down the bus light and get off the couch. My life won’t change in any tangible way with trump or Biden’s corpse in the WH so I’m caring less and less. My gun collection certainly doesnt care……gun control passed by a Republican is equal to that passed by a democrat. I’m not going to comply with either so if you all want to watch another 4 years of pants shitter and his gender confused cabinet go for it. Make no mistake though, trump will get crushed in the primary. Hopefully you will be able to help fund his retirement with stop the steal 2.0 |
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Posted: 7/3/2023 4:33:10 PM EDT
[#50]
Appears to be a decent governor for his state and that's the only positive opinion I have of him right now.
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