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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:46:00 PM EDT
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Because Russia needs them for stealth aircraft
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:51:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I stripped a torx on a Walther optic plate with just my fingers on the Allen wrench. I don’t know what head is best Why were you using Allen on a Torx? |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:55:38 PM EDT
[#3]
Go for the Arthur head screws instead!
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:55:43 PM EDT
[#4]
From a production standpoint they make sense, read up
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Posted: 4/21/2024 8:57:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I stripped a torx on a Walther optic plate with just my fingers on the Allen wrench. I don’t know what head is best I’ve done the same thing, as have many many people. That is why they have since redesigned torx to torx plus, and then to torx paralobe, because the “perfect” bits like to strip like a motherfucker. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:01:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:06:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bring back slotted screws  Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Meh. I can get behind you if you want to bitch about slotted screws. Quality Phillips with the correct driver are fine. Can't say I've seen many Phillips in high-torque applications though They at least still have a purpose in Healthcare, restaurants, etc, in that you can clean the slot easier. I'm with op. It's time that we move past Phillips. |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:07:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bring back slotted screws  " />
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:08:50 PM EDT
[#9]
Because if torx all the things, someone will figure out a way to fuck that up too.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:10:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why were you using Allen on a Torx? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I stripped a torx on a Walther optic plate with just my fingers on the Allen wrench. I don’t know what head is best Why were you using Allen on a Torx? I misspoke. I used the supplied torx wrench. Walther uses pot metal screws. Torx strips too easily iMHO |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:53:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2024 9:58:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bring back slotted screws Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Meh. I can get behind you if you want to bitch about slotted screws. Quality Phillips with the correct driver are fine. Can't say I've seen many Phillips in high-torque applications though  |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:03:13 PM EDT
[#13]
Great question
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:14:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:26:43 PM EDT
[#15]
Bust a phillips head on my Milwaukie impact every other week.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:28:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's not that they exist again. It's that we are asking the question again. Math is hard mkay If he has read about this trivial issue before, why bring it up.......again? |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:38:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because they are better than tri wing or 4 wing torq screws. Are those the same as the airbus nazi screws? |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:40:32 PM EDT
[#18]
Don't forget Reed Prince drivers.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:47:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bring back slotted screws Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Meh. I can get behind you if you want to bitch about slotted screws. Quality Phillips with the correct driver are fine. Can't say I've seen many Phillips in high-torque applications though Gross |
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Posted: 4/21/2024 10:55:54 PM EDT
[#20]
Pozidriv works
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Posted: 4/21/2024 11:00:54 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryWhy not both? And flathead too? 
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Posted: 4/21/2024 11:12:59 PM EDT
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Torx drive is not the end all answer. They break or strip in high torque applications all the time. The SO bits that fit really tight and cost a fortune are the best by far about getting a stubborn torx screw out, but even they don't work every time. At least with philips, you don't break a bit flush with the fastener and spend all day working to get it out when it won't drill and you can't weld something to the head to turn it out. Torx is fine for low torque, but they are often overtorqued. Also for trim or drywall, square drive is much more convenient.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 11:41:25 PM EDT
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They exist because of early automatic screwdrivers. It was easier to create a head that automatically disengaged (cams out) than creating one with an automatic clutch. The linked article did not mention it, but there was also a version of the x slotted screw that did not have the tapers that encourage the Phillips cam out.
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Posted: 4/21/2024 11:53:20 PM EDT
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After we solve this, can we do why needle valves still exist? They should be replaced with ball valves.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:01:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: We need variety in our screws. Different holes need different screws to get the best effect. And who doesn't like a large variety of head? I would be quite upset if I could only get it one way. Whoa, Gary! Reel it the fuck in |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:04:59 AM EDT
[#26]
Hex and Posidrive really are fucking awesome. But Torx is best.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:22:58 AM EDT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-2NzVBJ8gg
because murican engineering (provably shit but maintains pride). |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:24:28 AM EDT
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I drive screws all day and rarely fuck up a phillips.might blow up a bit twice a year. 20v dewalt 1/4" impact. Gotta lean in fellas.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:26:45 AM EDT
[#29]
lol, who knew there were screw head master race types
I guess I should have known, but it still makes me laugh |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:30:32 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Please provide your business model for replacing every Phillips head screw on Earth with a Torx bolt as well as the estimated cost of doing so. Thanks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: And why do they keep using it for high torque applications? And why is square or torx drive special order and Phillips is stocked?  Please provide your business model for replacing every Phillips head screw on Earth with a Torx bolt as well as the estimated cost of doing so. Thanks. Costs less than a war in Ukraine, a southern invasion or an assault on the Branch Davidian Compound with better public health results. Any other questions? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:49:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Torx all the screws!!! Everything else should be banned now I fell in love with them when i did a porch remodel a couple of years back. I've driven thousands of 16 penny nails in my life, but the impact and T25s are the shit! Matter of fact, bought a 25 lb box of them yesterday. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:50:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: New production russian hypersonic missiles use an assortment including flathead. I am shocked |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:52:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I stripped a torx on a Walther optic plate with just my fingers on the Allen wrench. I don't know what head is best |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:57:38 AM EDT
[#34]
They need to ban flat head screw drivers
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Posted: 4/22/2024 12:58:40 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:00:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I stripped a torx on a Walther optic plate with just my fingers on the Allen wrench. I don't know what head is best /media/mediaFiles/sharedAlbum/crazykat-330.gif I stripped one of those little fuckers too and it's because the torx profile is like 3/4mm deep. Not the fault of the profile |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:10:50 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/22/2024 1:53:43 AM EDT
[#38]
I prefer flat heads, you can always find something flat.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:21:12 AM EDT
[#39]
Square bits suck.
Torx are best. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:36:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Meh. I can get behind you if you want to bitch about slotted screws. Quality Phillips with the correct driver are fine. Can’t say I’ve seen many Phillips in high-torque applications though There are some scope bases that are still sent out with slotted screws like it was 1955.  |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 3:50:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:
Someone recently gave me a big box of Phillips deck screws. I thanked them nicely, took them home and put them directly in the garbage. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:21:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryIt took me years to discover this was a thing. Far superior design. And JIS drivers work better in Phillips than Phillips does. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 4:24:30 AM EDT
[#43]
Phillips by design is supposed to strip with over torque.
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Posted: 4/22/2024 5:09:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Because if torx all the things, someone will figure out a way to fuck that up too. They make deck screws that will take either the square drive or phillips. Need one that takes a Torx or square drive, thought I saw them in deck screws with the big star in center but not sure which type they were (#2 square and either phillips or Torx to outer edge). I think they were made by Spax? |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 5:15:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bust a phillips head on my Milwaukie impact every other week. Thats seems excessive, are they cheap bits? I seem to rarely snap bits, but I also use #2R phillips instead of #2. The ones I am really disliking are the combo Phillips/slotted, Roberts found on electrical items. They dont seem to be designed to use standard Klein 8 in 1 screwdrivers. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 6:02:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know why anyone would use a phillips screw for anything. Torx all day. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 7:07:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If I ran for high public office I’d propose signature legislation to put a tax on all Phillips head screw production. We’d use the money to subsidize torx bits.  Attached FileI can't stand phillips head screws either. Square and Torx FTW. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 7:08:12 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My 1939 house has slotted screws all over the effing place  Change them. I have been. My house is from 1947. |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:31:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Change them. I have been. My house is from 1947. Oh I am. Just a little bit at a time. Click To View Spoiler |
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Posted: 4/22/2024 8:38:22 AM EDT
[#50]
Then you have all the "looks like a Phillips, but isn't" bullshit.
Reed and Prince Pozidriv ISO Etc All this shit |
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