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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:29:49 AM EST
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I'm not going to apologize for slowing traffic down to keep from getting hit by a car. My mom taught me not to play in traffic. It's a shame that isn't a lesson taught in elementary school. I always did what I could to get traffic running as quickly as possible, but if you want to compromise firefighter safety for inconvenienced commuters then you should apply for CHP. Those guys are incident command for everything on the highways for some dumb reason. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:37:07 AM EST
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LOL! Own expense? Now we know who doesn’t understand economics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The chrome is just a small part of it. Like flying half the department out, staying in separate rooms, to visit it while it's being built.  |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:37:27 AM EST
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LOL, OP is not from the land of 703. Enjoy the footage of no piece of equipment that is older than 10 years, mostly Fairfax with some Arlington and Alexandra thrown in. Red lights, Federal Q, air horns,Signal Stats, Roto Rays and shiny diamond plate. Enjoy  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ER3CGJUAfEg |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:37:30 AM EST
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The equivalent would be the PD showing up to a fire, throwing gas on every surrounding house until they were all burning, then high tailing away from the scene! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I'm not going to apologize for slowing traffic down to keep from getting hit by a car. My mom taught me not to play in traffic. It's a shame that isn't a lesson taught in elementary school. I always did what I could to get traffic running as quickly as possible, but if you want to compromise firefighter safety for inconvenienced commuters then you should apply for CHP. Those guys are incident command for everything on the highways for some dumb reason. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 10:43:57 AM EST
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Traffic pattern bub A crash in the #1 lane doesn’t mean the #1,2,3 need to be closed!! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Firefighters like to not be hit by cars. A crash in the #1 lane doesn’t mean the #1,2,3 need to be closed!! |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 11:58:10 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The equivalent would be the PD showing up to a fire, throwing gas on every surrounding house until they were all burning, then high tailing away from the scene! 
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Posted: 11/14/2018 12:41:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Traffic pattern bub A crash in the #1 lane doesn't mean the #1,2,3 need to be closed!! You really need to exercise some critical thinking. I know you mean well but you thought process is stuck in the dark ages. People have a value, citizens, FF's, and Cops, they all have value. Traffic sucks, to bad so sad. People lived with traffic. Some didn't when they got hit. THINK MAN THINK!!! |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 12:42:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The equivalent would be the PD showing up to a fire, throwing gas on every surrounding house until they were all burning, then high tailing away from the scene! |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 12:55:52 PM EST
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If you actually looked at one up close you would see just how big a piece of hammered crap they are. Lots of FD's are running 20 year old hand me down trucks held together with duct tape and spit. The sniny tends to hide that. you don't see many patrol cars going 20+ years of service. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 12:59:28 PM EST
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We closed down lane #1, BUB, and our cop got hit. So we had a change in the city wide rules. We will close down 2 lanes for a wreck in 1 lane. We will open the other lane as soon as it is safe. OUR COP that got his appreciated the change in rules after he left the trauma center. He got lucky. You really need to exercise some critical thinking. I know you mean well but you thought process is stuck in the dark ages. People have a value, citizens, FF's, and Cops, they all have value. Traffic sucks, to bad so sad. People lived with traffic. Some didn't when they got hit. THINK MAN THINK!!! |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 1:00:18 PM EST
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They've been bling items for quite some time.
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Posted: 11/14/2018 1:02:17 PM EST
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Give people something that they are proud of and they will probably take care of it. Give them crap and they will trash it. |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 1:06:31 PM EST
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Keeping them nice and shiny is nice downtime entertainment for those at the station. washing leads to increases familiarity with the equipment and it adds value to inspection, maintenance, and staging for the next event |
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Posted: 11/14/2018 3:34:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So how do you explain the medic sitting on the road for 20 minutes debating with the patient if they are going to go to the hospital since they got a little airbag powder in their eyes? MEanwhiles the cars have been cleared off the road so the only thing blocking the road is the engine and the medic. Wouldn't it be safer to pull off onto the berm or find the next parking lot/exit to pull onto to have that discussion instead of sitting in the lanes? Bottom line is yes make things as safe as you can, while inconveniencing people the least. Still no crime in blocking two lanes on the highway for a one lane wreck BOSS. I am just worried about your safety! 
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Posted: 11/15/2018 5:06:14 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: to answer the original question, chrome fixtures are more resistant to corrosion. washing leads to increases familiarity with the equipment and it adds value to inspection, maintenance, and staging for the next event |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 5:10:05 AM EST
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Depends on the situation. But I do not disagree with you. That is the way we handle things here, BOSS. Just sounds like you work around some guys who aren't quite up to date. Paramedics have a duty to act though. That is ingrained in them. And if they leave somebody complaining of something behind it can be scary for them sometimes. You gotta document and get the signatures. Bottom line is yes make things as safe as you can, while inconveniencing people the least. Still no crime in blocking two lanes on the highway for a one lane wreck BOSS. I am just worried about your safety! I suspect boss is either using one odd ball event where the medic really thought the patient should be seen by a doc, or he’s being creative with his time estimate. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 6:06:52 AM EST
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Do we need huge chrome bumpers and mirror like perfect glassy paint? Coat the fire truck in rhino liner on the exterior and you'd never have to wash it. If police did the same things as fire , cops would be driving driving Rolls Royce Phantoms. No, seriously, I just wondered why fire trucks are always so blingy when it seems like wasted money versus being practical and function over form. I know cities take pride in perfectly clean, shiny fire trucks, but why? |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 10:08:16 AM EST
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Not how we deal with them too. After ten minutes on scene for a medical run you better have a justification in your narrative as to why you on scene for so long. At twenty minutes you'd be explaining your scene time to the ems supervisor. I suspect boss is either using one odd ball event where the medic really thought the patient should be seen by a doc, or he's being creative with his time estimate. 
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Posted: 11/15/2018 2:56:01 PM EST
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It would seem that the "boss" is either trolling, or bitter about not getting hired by a fire department. Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, our department has had a blocking unit hit on the good old DC beltway at least once a year. This has undoubtedly save lives. Many years ago, I saw one of our people get hit after a drunk drove around the accident scene and into her. That being said, believe me when I say, most of us want a no frills fire truck. I just want the basics to do the job. Bells and whistles only equate to mechanical issues. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 3:00:22 PM EST
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LOL! Own expense? Now we know who doesn't understand economics. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The chrome is just a small part of it. Like flying half the department out, staying in separate rooms, to visit it while it's being built. |
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Posted: 11/15/2018 3:10:01 PM EST
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There's some chrome and diamond plate. Beyond that they aren't that fancy. 
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Posted: 11/15/2018 3:11:44 PM EST
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Now we know why SmilingBandit is shitting all over cops in the "security guard" thread. He's a fucking fire wienie!
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Posted: 11/15/2018 3:15:20 PM EST
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Now we know why SmilingBandit is shitting all over cops in the "security guard" thread. He's a fucking fire wienie!
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Posted: 11/15/2018 3:51:51 PM EST
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He is just a volly I think, he just has a hard on for LEO threads Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Now we know why SmilingBandit is shitting all over cops in the "security guard" thread. He's a fucking fire wienie! |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 5:14:23 AM EST
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I don't see why you use a $1 million fire truck to block traffic and let it get destroyed by some drunk asshole. In Texas you could use old dump trucks, paint them red and yellow, hang some reject light bar on it and fill it with sand. So when some drunk asshole hits it, at most you're out a $100,000 pos that's not critical to the safety of your community. And when we have those freak ice storms, those bitches can be out spreading sand. 
Your idea sounds even better if the city is willing to transfer the equipment between departments. Saving money is good 
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Posted: 11/18/2018 5:39:53 AM EST
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If you want practical fire fighting machines, look to the airports or Europe.
I agree with OP. It's a waste. These look 100 times better to my eyes 
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Posted: 11/18/2018 5:40:10 AM EST
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The primary engine at my volunteer station when I joined.
 A few years later "we" bought this.  There are considerable cost savings for a small Department to go with a commercial cab truck instead of a custom cab, although we used SUVs for medical calls so the engine did not get the wear and tear that a large municipal department has to endure. The custom can makes sense for them. |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 6:21:51 AM EST
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 Army Private Nicolas Adame, bought a fire truck. Here is his NCO's reaction to it. |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 6:52:39 AM EST
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I can tell you that they are expensive! |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 7:15:58 AM EST
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 now you guys are hating firefighters.
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Posted: 11/18/2018 8:02:31 AM EST
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The thin red line is strong in here. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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now you guys are hating firefighters. |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 8:04:09 AM EST
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GD hates anything public sector. |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 8:17:24 AM EST
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Come look at our trucks. Dents, rust and scratches. One is from the '70's. We don't have the money for that shinny shit, or the desire to polish it.
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Posted: 11/18/2018 8:43:38 AM EST
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Because stupid taxpayers want to see that they are getting what they paid for. Pimp my firetruck, yo. And let's not forget the police cars while we're at it. 'Police' on the door, a judiciously applied siren, and one flashing light on top is all it takes to get the point across. We are not trying to signal the ISS here.
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Posted: 11/18/2018 8:45:28 AM EST
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Because stupid taxpayers want to see that they are getting what they paid for. Pimp my firetruck, yo. And let's not forget the police cars while we're at it. 'Police' on the door, a judiciously applied siren, and one flashing light on top is all it takes to get the point across. We are not trying to signal the ISS here. 
Good luck with that. |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 8:47:35 AM EST
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We used to have to cover the engine compartment with a moving blanket to keep from getting burned in our fancy rig.
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Posted: 11/18/2018 9:32:39 AM EST
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Let's focus on the real problem, Blinky flashy tow trucks.
They have all sorts of stupid strobe lights and shit |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 9:34:09 AM EST
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There is supposedly only 1 manufacturer of ladder trucks in the US. I find that hard to believe. Anyone know if there is any truth to that?
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Posted: 11/18/2018 9:39:34 AM EST
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Fire trucks have high maintenance finishes on them such as large amounts of chrome work and polished aluminum so that the fireman on station have something to do. Otherwise they would just masturbate all damn day long. If you see a dirty unkempt firetruck, well then you can figure it out.
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Posted: 11/18/2018 10:12:27 AM EST
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Depends on the situation. But I do not disagree with you. That is the way we handle things here, BOSS. Just sounds like you work around some guys who aren't quite up to date. Paramedics have a duty to act though. That is ingrained in them. And if they leave somebody complaining of something behind it can be scary for them sometimes. You gotta document and get the signatures. Bottom line is yes make things as safe as you can, while inconveniencing people the least. Still no crime in blocking two lanes on the highway for a one lane wreck BOSS. I am just worried about your safety! |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 10:22:17 AM EST
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One time I drove by a trailer Tyre fire.
Truck blocking the right lane. Vehicles in the center median grass area. The flatbed trailer was under hitched and they had pulled the tow vehicle forward The fire was out and no one was near the trailer Everyone was standing bullshitting in the grass as traffic crawled by. |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 10:22:22 AM EST
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Because stupid taxpayers want to see that they are getting what they paid for. Pimp my firetruck, yo. And let's not forget the police cars while we're at it. 'Police' on the door, a judiciously applied siren, and one flashing light on top is all it takes to get the point across. We are not trying to signal the ISS here. But rhino-lining a fire engine? That would add a bunch of weight to an already heavy vehicle and make it look like shit like every rhino lined vehicle I have ever seen. I have no issue with fancy looking fire apparatus. Tradition and esprit de corps are good things in a community. On a side note: They don’t give FFs swords any more, looking at pics from old FDs around here, back in the 1800s to around the turn of the century they had swords for some reason, like everyone in the picture had one...now only the honor guard just has some shiny chrome axes. |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 10:30:45 AM EST
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There is supposedly only 1 manufacturer of ladder trucks in the US. I find that hard to believe. Anyone know if there is any truth to that? |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 10:34:13 AM EST
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If you want practical fire fighting machines, look to the airports or Europe. I agree with OP. It's a waste. These look 100 times better to my eyes https://i.ytimg.com/vi/X6BMpv-8e0U/maxresdefault.jpg 
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Posted: 11/18/2018 10:37:03 AM EST
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It's not just those shiny rims and big greeeel, my little VFD has top notch everything..... commercial kitchen with lady aux to cook, gym, massive hall and huge paved parking lot...... it's a hoot if your in the clique or get invited to the social. |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 10:37:05 AM EST
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There is supposedly only 1 manufacturer of ladder trucks in the US. I find that hard to believe. Anyone know if there is any truth to that? |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 10:52:30 AM EST
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I bet some of you guys stroke out over how nice things like court houses, schools, and capitol buildings are
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Posted: 11/18/2018 11:55:34 AM EST
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Fire trucks have high maintenance finishes on them such as large amounts of chrome work and polished aluminum so that the fireman on station have something to do. Otherwise they would just masturbate all damn day long. If you see a dirty unkempt firetruck, well then you can figure it out. |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 11:58:21 AM EST
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No, there aren't a ton, but there are at least 5 or 6. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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There is supposedly only 1 manufacturer of ladder trucks in the US. I find that hard to believe. Anyone know if there is any truth to that? |
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Posted: 11/18/2018 12:23:11 PM EST
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Did you try a search? ETA: Tallest building we have in town is 4 stories. Chief says we need a $500k truck for that...I'm thinking we can get a barely used one for a bit cheaper. FFS we are a population of less than 5000 - we can't exactly spend that kind of money! From what I'm seeing online, it looks like he may not be far off - but damn. Anyone in the know have any idea on how much a ladder truck like that would run? Cheapest I saw was $300k. |
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