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Link Posted: 7/15/2010 8:14:00 PM EST
[#1]
Originally Posted By LongTrang:
Well guys here is my update.   Finally after a very long time, I acquired an ACOG.  It is the TA31F model which jives with my FN barrel date and what my buddy carried in '04.  My buddy gave me his stock pouch that he used in AR Ramadi.  All I need now is a peq 2 or a peq15.  Or both!!  By the way, the red stripe denotes 1Plt, K 2/5 1st MARDIV.  Semper Fi!

http://i833.photobucket.com/albums/zz251/whitefeather_2009/P1200017.jpg

Congrats on the ACOG!

I'll have one some day.
Link Posted: 7/15/2010 8:32:21 PM EST
[#2]
Thanks Plinkr!!  You will have one!!!  It took me forever to finally get this one but I managed.  Of course I'm eating top ramen for a couple months.
Link Posted: 7/16/2010 6:33:00 PM EST
[#3]
my A4 rock river lower, BCM upper, I put an aimpoint comp ML2 on it
Link Posted: 7/20/2010 8:28:30 PM EST
[#4]
Heres mine. Ive been putting it together piece by piece for a few months and just got it put together tonight. Now I can move onto my AR10 project

-CMMG 20" Government upper
-Preban Colt Sporter II lower
-RRA NM trigger
-KAC M5 RIS
-Acog TA31 with a tenabrex killflash and TA71 caps/ Larue 4X DOS mount
-Wilderness tactical giles sling
-Spec Ops mag pouch




Link Posted: 7/21/2010 12:44:12 AM EST
[#5]



Took my Sabre A4gery out shooting tonight - shot 04 dated LC M855 out of it. For some reason, the rifle did NOT like the rounds at all - would group about 6" at 100yds with every fourth or fifth shot flinging out of the rifle near sideways that'd open the group up to like, 20"! I realized after a magazine that the rounds sounded different each time, guess I got a bad lot of M855 or something, because my dad's Bushmaster didn't like it, either. I tried some of his 55gr Prvi and had a 2" group which was acceptable enough to me knowing I'm using a service rifle with non-precision ammunition.
Link Posted: 7/23/2010 7:46:18 PM EST
[Last Edit: mbinky] [#6]
I love this thread

First, let me apologize for the crappy pics.  All I have with me is my cell.

The skinny:
Colt MT6700 lower
Colt M4 upper
SDI Gov. Profile barrel, M4 ramps, 1/7, "F" FSB

This is not the final configuration for this lower.  I actually built this upper for my factory A2 stocked LMT lower.  I have a 20" gov. profile Colt barrel I am going to install on the original MT6700 upper.
I put the peel washer on the barrel, it came with a crush washer.  I just like the peel type
Even though the M4 ramps would have worked with the rifle upper, I am a stickler.  Besides, it gave me a reason to build this upper for a different rifle
I have an M5 RAS, but could not for the life of me get it to go under the slip ring at the rear.  I was frustrated, so I'll try again later.
I put it together in my hotel room, hence my impromptu vice

Original HBAR had a date of 10/08.  Lower has the large FGC pins and screw type front take down.  Gonna get that fixed at Adco :) (the front take down pin)

Luv them A4's!










Link Posted: 7/25/2010 1:53:44 AM EST
[#7]
Originally Posted By mbinky:
I love this thread

First, let me apologize for the crappy pics.  All I have with me is my cell.

The skinny:
Colt MT6700 lower
Colt M4 upper
SDI Gov. Profile barrel, M4 ramps, 1/7, "F" FSB

This is not the final configuration for this lower.  I actually built this upper for my factory A2 stocked LMT lower.  I have a 20" gov. profile Colt barrel I am going to install on the original MT6700 upper.
I put the peel washer on the barrel, it came with a crush washer.  I just like the peel type
Even though the M4 ramps would have worked with the rifle upper, I am a stickler.  Besides, it gave me a reason to build this upper for a different rifle
I have an M5 RAS, but could not for the life of me get it to go under the slip ring at the rear.  I was frustrated, so I'll try again later.
I put it together in my hotel room, hence my impromptu vice

Original HBAR had a date of 10/08.  Lower has the large FGC pins and screw type front take down.  Gonna get that fixed at Adco :) (the front take down pin)

Luv them A4's!

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2692/jul230008.jpg



Are they issuing M16A4s with M4 feed ramps now?
Link Posted: 7/25/2010 9:44:40 AM EST
[#8]
No they are not.  There is no need for M4 ramps in an A4
Link Posted: 7/25/2010 9:54:17 AM EST
[#9]
added some magpul pron to mine

I really like the AFG! I shoot alot better in the standing using it!
Link Posted: 7/25/2010 10:08:17 AM EST
[#10]
this is the best pic thread by far. i wish more people would post here.
Link Posted: 7/25/2010 8:35:58 PM EST
[#11]
Originally Posted By mbinky:
I love this thread

First, let me apologize for the crappy pics.  All I have with me is my cell.

The skinny:
Colt MT6700 lower
Colt M4 upper
SDI Gov. Profile barrel, M4 ramps, 1/7, "F" FSB

This is not the final configuration for this lower.  I actually built this upper for my factory A2 stocked LMT lower.  I have a 20" gov. profile Colt barrel I am going to install on the original MT6700 upper.
I put the peel washer on the barrel, it came with a crush washer.  I just like the peel type
Even though the M4 ramps would have worked with the rifle upper, I am a stickler.  Besides, it gave me a reason to build this upper for a different rifle
I have an M5 RAS, but could not for the life of me get it to go under the slip ring at the rear.  I was frustrated, so I'll try again later.
I put it together in my hotel room, hence my impromptu vice

Original HBAR had a date of 10/08.  Lower has the large FGC pins and screw type front take down.  Gonna get that fixed at Adco :) (the front take down pin)

Luv them A4's!

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/5220/jul230001.jpg
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/5528/jul230004.jpg
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/6449/jul230005.jpg
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2097/jul230006.jpg
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2692/jul230008.jpg
http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/2730/jul230010.jpg





Maybe I'm not seeing this right or not getting it, but in one of your pics, it looks like you've got an upper w/ M4 cuts + a barrel with a rifle extension.  Isn't the lack of M4 cuts in the barrel extension going to be a problem?

Nice gun & love the bayonet.
Link Posted: 7/25/2010 9:06:41 PM EST
[#12]
Both the upper and barrel have M4 cuts.  The upper is a Colt M4, and the SDI barrel has an M4 extension.
I agree they are not necessary, but most barrels come with them now.
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 3:21:51 PM EST
[#13]
I finally pulled the trigger on a TA-31RCO-A4CP ACOG to complete my M16A4 clone.  Here is my A4 with the ACOG

LOWER
LRB Arms receiver
Armalite LPK
Colt A2 stock w/ buffer & spring
Colt A2 grip

UPPER
LRB Arms receiver
Colt BCG
Colt CH
Sabre Defence 1/7 CL 20" gov't profile barrel
KAC M5 rails w/ panels
KAC VFG

OPTICS
Trijicon ACOG TA-31RCO-A4CP
LT-681 RCO mount

SLING
Specter 3-point tactical sling





Link Posted: 8/5/2010 8:21:01 PM EST
[#14]
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/LegumeOfTerror/IMG_3237-1.jpg

My BCM upper on a Spikes lower with a Specter 3 point sling. Im not one for rails.
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 8:24:42 PM EST
[#15]
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 9:10:28 PM EST
[#16]
Originally Posted By legumeofterror:
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/LegumeOfTerror/IMG_3237-1.jpg

My BCM upper on a Spikes lower with a Specter 3 point sling. Im not one for rails.

I think they look good as well with A2 handguards.
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 9:16:27 PM EST
[Last Edit: nobodyspecial] [#17]


 
Link Posted: 8/5/2010 11:41:50 PM EST
[Last Edit: StretchMaK] [#18]
My parts all showed up in the last 2 days.

ARFCOM lower
Stag LPK
Bravo 20" gov upper with BCG
Stag A2 buttstock
KAC M5 RAS  these are very tight for rails held in by the delt ring
Matech 600m BUIS
ERGO grip because I hate the issue type grips
Magpul Trigger gaurd because I like to use the bottom of the trigger.
I have not made up my mind on a sling yet
Saving for the ACOG





Link Posted: 8/10/2010 12:35:16 AM EST
[#19]
Whats the correct mount for the acog?
Link Posted: 8/10/2010 12:37:34 AM EST
[#20]
The one that comes with it... TA51 mount if I remember right.
Link Posted: 8/10/2010 7:00:42 PM EST
[#21]
good, one less thing to buy...
Link Posted: 8/10/2010 7:14:37 PM EST
[#22]
Originally Posted By DocBach:
The one that comes with it... TA51 mount if I remember right.

They also look best, in my opinion.
Link Posted: 8/10/2010 8:34:07 PM EST
[#23]
This thread is so 'Full of Win'.
Link Posted: 8/15/2010 2:54:16 PM EST
[#24]
Link Posted: 8/15/2010 4:46:15 PM EST
[#25]
Just curious, on average, how much are you guys dropping for these clones (Acog not included).
Link Posted: 8/15/2010 5:04:25 PM EST
[#26]
Originally Posted By LedZeppelin:
Just curious, on average, how much are you guys dropping for these clones (Acog not included).


Bushmaster lower assm. $300
Bushy Tax Time upper      $395
KAC  M5 rail                      $150
Matech                              $50.
Link Posted: 8/15/2010 5:52:18 PM EST
[#27]
Originally Posted By LedZeppelin:
Just curious, on average, how much are you guys dropping for these clones (Acog not included).


Complete Preban Lower: $500
Complete Upper w/ RIS & Panels: $800
Sling/buttstock mag pouch & misc. stuff: $100

Link Posted: 8/15/2010 9:15:06 PM EST
[Last Edit: saleen] [#28]
Well, dammit, now I have a new project to do.  I stumbled on this thread last week on vacation, and that got the wheels turning.  Within a few hours I had an M5 rail system headed my way, and the day I got back I picked up a TA31F and a new MATECH.  Now I'm trying to figure out what upper to use, and considering ordering an Armalite lower instead of using one of the RRA or Stag lowers I have laying around.

Looks like it's going to be pretty easy eating through that check the Army sent to apologize for the involuntary extension / stop loss thing back in 2005

Anyone care to opine over the option of building on a new FN barrel or a BCM one?  I would assume that their accuracy would be more or less identical, but maybe I'm assuming too much.


Saleen
Link Posted: 8/19/2010 11:04:57 PM EST
[#29]
My first picture post on AR15 ahhaha. This is how it all started for me...reading the M16a4 clone thread.  So here's my BCM upper and Rock River lower.  

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3536/3835971125_a5fa70c59f.jpg
Link Posted: 8/21/2010 3:22:55 AM EST
[#30]
What BUIS does the military use on their A4s?
Link Posted: 8/21/2010 5:09:41 AM EST
[#31]
Originally Posted By crazed_ss:
What BUIS does the military use on their A4s?


Matech mostly
Link Posted: 8/21/2010 3:04:29 PM EST
[#32]
I thought I was done adding to my rifle collection after recently finishing a MK12 mod 0.  I'm now working on an M16A4.  Lower is basically done and upper will be in on Monday.  Does anyone know of a good source for the handguard other than ordering directly from KAC?  BCM is the only online source I've found and they're out and don't know when more will be in.
Link Posted: 8/21/2010 3:07:00 PM EST
[#33]
Originally Posted By kona2004:
I thought I was done adding to my rifle collection after recently finishing a MK12 mod 0.  I'm now working on an M16A4.  Lower is basically done and upper will be in on Monday.  Does anyone know of a good source for the handguard other than ordering directly from KAC?  BCM is the only online source I've found and they're out and don't know when more will be in.


You can find them in the EE fairly regularly & you can check with operationparts.com.
Link Posted: 8/21/2010 3:07:58 PM EST
[Last Edit: Postal0311] [#34]
About a month ago CDNN was sale pricing new M5 RAS for $150.  I don't know what their normal price is now.
Link Posted: 8/23/2010 12:54:00 AM EST
[#35]
Originally Posted By saleen:
Well, dammit, now I have a new project to do.  I stumbled on this thread last week on vacation, and that got the wheels turning.  Within a few hours I had an M5 rail system headed my way, and the day I got back I picked up a TA31F and a new MATECH.  Now I'm trying to figure out what upper to use, and considering ordering an Armalite lower instead of using one of the RRA or Stag lowers I have laying around.

Looks like it's going to be pretty easy eating through that check the Army sent to apologize for the involuntary extension / stop loss thing back in 2005

Anyone care to opine over the option of building on a new FN barrel or a BCM one?  I would assume that their accuracy would be more or less identical, but maybe I'm assuming too much.


Saleen


As far as quality, I think BCM is as good as FN.  However, the BCM barrel extension has M4 feed-ramps, so this would be a minor deviation from spec, if that is important to you.  From what I'm told, they don't make it feed any better in the M16A4, so it doesn't have them.  Otherwise, I think it would be functionally identical, and unless you looked inside you wouldn't be able to tell the difference other than the roll marks.
Link Posted: 8/23/2010 8:42:21 AM EST
[#36]
Well, according to the tracking numbers, the Big Brown Truck should drop off my new Armalite lower and BCM upper for this build today.  If the post man cooperates and brings the Matech rear sight, all will be well in the world and I can maybe put some holes in the target on Friday when I'm off work.


Saleel
Link Posted: 8/23/2010 8:52:25 AM EST
[#37]
Lots of talking, not many pictures.



Link Posted: 8/23/2010 9:43:01 AM EST
[#38]


It looks too clean and shiny .  Beautiful rifle.
Link Posted: 8/23/2010 10:07:18 AM EST
[#39]
Originally Posted By FAB-10_Guy:


It looks too clean and shiny .  Beautiful rifle.

Thank you.

It's my first ever build.
Link Posted: 8/23/2010 3:58:38 PM EST
[#40]
A4 sorta..rail is coming.



Link Posted: 8/23/2010 7:55:44 PM EST
[#41]
Guys, I depend on this thread to get through my day to day, so please post pictures!

Thanks to everyone that already has.
Link Posted: 8/24/2010 1:31:08 AM EST
[#42]
Originally Posted By Postal0311:
About a month ago CDNN was sale pricing new M5 RAS for $150.  I don't know what their normal price is now.


Link?
Link Posted: 8/24/2010 10:05:18 AM EST
[#43]
Originally Posted By plinkr415:
Guys, I depend on this thread to get through my day to day, so please post pictures!

Thanks to everyone that already has.


Plinkr,
I hear ya buddy.  I need to throw up some more pics of mine.  This is one of the best threads on here.
Link Posted: 8/24/2010 11:44:05 AM EST
[#44]
Project complete.

Armalite lower
BCM 20" Govt profile upper
Knights M5 RAS
Matech BUIS
Trijicon TA31F

Maybe I'll get to shoot it Friday





Forgive my amateurish staging attempts.....


Saleen
Link Posted: 8/24/2010 12:18:37 PM EST
[#45]
Originally Posted By Jasongar8:
Originally Posted By Postal0311:
About a month ago CDNN was sale pricing new M5 RAS for $150.  I don't know what their normal price is now.


Link?

I looked as soon as I saw that and couldn't find them.  Kind of torn at the moment.  Love the look of the A4 but don't know if I want to spend near $400 just for looks.  Thinking of keeping mine set up as an A2.
Link Posted: 8/24/2010 12:31:28 PM EST
[#46]
Originally Posted By kona2004:
Originally Posted By Jasongar8:
Originally Posted By Postal0311:
About a month ago CDNN was sale pricing new M5 RAS for $150.  I don't know what their normal price is now.


Link?

I looked as soon as I saw that and couldn't find them.  Kind of torn at the moment.  Love the look of the A4 but don't know if I want to spend near $400 just for looks.  Thinking of keeping mine set up as an A2.

M5 RAS's sell even cheaper than that in the EE. You won't have to spend near $400 for one if you search there.
Link Posted: 8/24/2010 12:32:03 PM EST
[#47]
Originally Posted By LongTrang:
Originally Posted By plinkr415:
Guys, I depend on this thread to get through my day to day, so please post pictures!

Thanks to everyone that already has.


Plinkr,
I hear ya buddy.  I need to throw up some more pics of mine.  This is one of the best threads on here.

Best threads indeed!
Link Posted: 8/24/2010 8:24:47 PM EST
[#48]
Not an exact clone because of the rail, but still an A4.



Link Posted: 8/25/2010 11:40:15 AM EST
[#49]
These purdy A4s are looking good guys!!
Link Posted: 8/25/2010 2:54:00 PM EST
[#50]
Very cool, I'll be working on mine soon as I get my upper from CMMG and pick up my CMMG lower, I picked up a new Colt Gov't Profile barrel 20" w/o FSB Chrome lined 1:7 for $165 and a brand new KAC rail with three panels for $100, that was the deal of the day I thought.

I had an A4 set up, but I sold it, stupid, stupid, stupid, shoulda woulda coulda as they say.

Frank
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