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Originally Posted By krdt: Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that is in all likelihood a fake 4P. Real 4Ps don't have a pin pilot hole. Originally Posted By krdt: Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that is in all likelihood a fake 4P. Real 4Ps don't have a pin pilot hole. Originally Posted By DoctorLove: Try it first and see if it does hit the rail, if it does, just get a shim kit and use shims until it doesn’t. Problem solved EDIT: Pic thread 
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Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Gotcha. So my best bet is... get the f.p. cards ready, make out check, go to my dealer, fill out paperwork, take paper work with me, and send out all at once myself. I misread earlier. I thought you said send Cleo copy with other said paper work. Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Originally Posted By krdt: It's more of an easy bar of entry for first time NFA people in my opinion. It takes some of the intimidation factor out of it. Yes, the kiosk can take prints, but you can easily do those yourself at home. Once you have one or two good cards, they can be scanned and reused multiple times. There is no CLEO signature required, but there is a CLEO notification required. That consists of sending the pages marked "CLEO copy" on the F1 or F4 to the agency/person you listed on the form. There are multiple "ready-made" trusts available online, which is what Silencer Shop is offering. You can even use them for a basic trust package (or use one of the many paid or free NFA trust templates floating around out there). For the most part, unless you have special considerations or requirements, a trust is pretty straight-forward (and it can always be amended later if needed). Any plain black ink pad will work. I got mine at Office Max or Office Depot. Unfortunately, only Form 1 is available for eFile at the moment; ATF claims to be working on the F4 with a vague estimate of it going online sometime in 2019. I wouldn't hold your breath, lol. Yeah, I just meant when you mail off the packet to the ATF, mail the CLEO stuff at the same time. |
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Originally Posted By DoctorLove: I got the Cree bulb and replaced the bulbs in my hand held Surefires and it is great. I could not get it to fit into the 952. It was too wide. The Amazon reviews, some were able to get it to work in the 951 and others weren't. I tried with and without the outer spring |
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Originally Posted By Flyit14: Its actually a 3P i should have specified. I'm still dumping my spare change in to the SF4P jar, one day I'll get one haha. I will when the can is actually at the dealer. I just wanted to get the flash hider on and wasn't sure if there was a better way of knowing before I put the rockset on it. EDIT: Pic thread https://i.imgur.com/BJrdS6nl.jpg |
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Originally Posted By Flyit14:
Its actually a 3P i should have specified. I'm still dumping my spare change in to the SF4P jar, one day I'll get one haha. I will when the can is actually at the dealer. I just wanted to get the flash hider on and wasn't sure if there was a better way of knowing before I put the rockset on it. EDIT: Pic thread https://i.imgur.com/BJrdS6nl.jpg Originally Posted By Flyit14:
Originally Posted By krdt: Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that is in all likelihood a fake 4P. Real 4Ps don't have a pin pilot hole. Originally Posted By DoctorLove: Try it first and see if it does hit the rail, if it does, just get a shim kit and use shims until it doesn’t. Problem solved EDIT: Pic thread https://i.imgur.com/BJrdS6nl.jpg |
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Originally Posted By krdt:
Also, print out some photos; you can be fancy and use glossy photo paper or plain printer paper. If your FFL knows how, you can just send him photos and have him print it directly on the F4. Yeah, I just meant when you mail off the packet to the ATF, mail the CLEO stuff at the same time. Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Originally Posted By krdt: It's more of an easy bar of entry for first time NFA people in my opinion. It takes some of the intimidation factor out of it. Yes, the kiosk can take prints, but you can easily do those yourself at home. Once you have one or two good cards, they can be scanned and reused multiple times. There is no CLEO signature required, but there is a CLEO notification required. That consists of sending the pages marked "CLEO copy" on the F1 or F4 to the agency/person you listed on the form. There are multiple "ready-made" trusts available online, which is what Silencer Shop is offering. You can even use them for a basic trust package (or use one of the many paid or free NFA trust templates floating around out there). For the most part, unless you have special considerations or requirements, a trust is pretty straight-forward (and it can always be amended later if needed). Any plain black ink pad will work. I got mine at Office Max or Office Depot. Unfortunately, only Form 1 is available for eFile at the moment; ATF claims to be working on the F4 with a vague estimate of it going online sometime in 2019. I wouldn't hold your breath, lol. Yeah, I just meant when you mail off the packet to the ATF, mail the CLEO stuff at the same time. Well the cats cats out of the bag. My wife saw the credit card statement. I feel better about the purchase now, believe it or not. One more fam photo. It's hard to say goodbye. 
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Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Last family photo before I start sellin off my babies. http://i.imgur.com/L5WgYYQ.jpg 
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Originally Posted By wissota4:
This is actually true. Originally Posted By wissota4:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Friends don't let friends buy EXPS 2-0's. Stop rethinking your purchase. And never say never on NODs. I used to think that too. But if my broke ass can do it, so can you.  You never know! |
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Originally Posted By Flyit14:
No NODs for me. Got an exps 3-0. No Ragrets. You never know! Originally Posted By Flyit14:
Originally Posted By wissota4:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Friends don't let friends buy EXPS 2-0's. Stop rethinking your purchase. And never say never on NODs. I used to think that too. But if my broke ass can do it, so can you. You never know! 
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Originally Posted By eMc9001:
Aren't you one of those kids? Originally Posted By eMc9001:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
He's actually the prime example. Wissota has 87 kids with 87 different women, (meaning 87 different child support cases), and even his broke ass pulled it off.
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Last family photo before I start sellin off my babies. http://i.imgur.com/L5WgYYQ.jpg Anyone lookin or know someone lookin for an immaculate ta31 ecos/ su237 check the ee now! |
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Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Don't worry, the block 1 and block 2 aren't goin anywhere. I'm just lookin to sell one or two plus an optic or two. Gotta justify the rc somehow. Uppers posted in the EE plus my fde su-237. I think the prices are good considering the rarity of a lot of the parts that go into these builds. Anyone lookin or know someone lookin for an immaculate ta31 ecos/ su237 check the ee now! Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Last family photo before I start sellin off my babies. http://i.imgur.com/L5WgYYQ.jpg Anyone lookin or know someone lookin for an immaculate ta31 ecos/ su237 check the ee now!  
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Without blood, it doesn't count!
"A gun, like any other source of power, is a force for good or evil, being neither in itself, but dependent upon those who possess it."
"A gun, like any other source of power, is a force for good or evil, being neither in itself, but dependent upon those who possess it."
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Originally Posted By krdt:
Yep, spoke a little too soon on that one, lol. Ya quoted me before I got in the edit ;p. Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By Flyit14:
Originally Posted By krdt: Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but that is in all likelihood a fake 4P. Real 4Ps don't have a pin pilot hole. Originally Posted By DoctorLove: Try it first and see if it does hit the rail, if it does, just get a shim kit and use shims until it doesn’t. Problem solved EDIT: Pic thread https://i.imgur.com/BJrdS6nl.jpg |
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Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Don't worry, the block 1 and block 2 aren't goin anywhere. I'm just lookin to sell one or two plus an optic or two. Gotta justify the rc somehow. Uppers posted in the EE plus my fde su-237. I think the prices are good considering the rarity of a lot of the parts that go into these builds. Anyone lookin or know someone lookin for an immaculate ta31 ecos/ su237 check the ee now! |
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
How does one discern this?Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
Originally Posted By Flyit14: fake SF4Ps were a thing. How does one discern this?Some examples (all fake): 
The SF logos are blurred in some shots, but they are fully marked. ETA: I should add that as far as I know all the fakes have a "pilot" or set screw hole, but I'm not certain. ETA2: Apparently, they make fake SFMBs, SF3Ps and probably others as well. Crazy. |
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Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Don't worry, the block 1 and block 2 aren't goin anywhere. I'm just lookin to sell one or two plus an optic or two. Gotta justify the rc somehow. Uppers posted in the EE plus my fde su-237. I think the prices are good considering the rarity of a lot of the parts that go into these builds. Anyone lookin or know someone lookin for an immaculate ta31 ecos/ su237 check the ee now! |
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Originally Posted By JLAudio:
i wish i could have found the tano doctor mount/doctor version when i was looking for an anodized ecos. i ended up with an rmr on top instead. i am sure someone will scoop that up quickly, looks to be in great shape. Originally Posted By JLAudio:
Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Don't worry, the block 1 and block 2 aren't goin anywhere. I'm just lookin to sell one or two plus an optic or two. Gotta justify the rc somehow. Uppers posted in the EE plus my fde su-237. I think the prices are good considering the rarity of a lot of the parts that go into these builds. Anyone lookin or know someone lookin for an immaculate ta31 ecos/ su237 check the ee now! |
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Originally Posted By JLAudio: i wish i could have found the tano doctor mount/doctor version when i was looking for an anodized ecos. i ended up with an rmr on top instead. i am sure someone will scoop that up quickly, looks to be in great shape. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Definitely the coolest TA31 ever made |
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Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Great price for that package. Originally Posted By DontBuryMe:
Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Don't worry, the block 1 and block 2 aren't goin anywhere. I'm just lookin to sell one or two plus an optic or two. Gotta justify the rc somehow. Uppers posted in the EE plus my fde su-237. I think the prices are good considering the rarity of a lot of the parts that go into these builds. Anyone lookin or know someone lookin for an immaculate ta31 ecos/ su237 check the ee now! |
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Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Its def gonna hurt a little to let that go. I don't have kids but I was happy as f@#$ when that baby arrived on my doorstep! Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Originally Posted By JLAudio: i wish i could have found the tano doctor mount/doctor version when i was looking for an anodized ecos. i ended up with an rmr on top instead. i am sure someone will scoop that up quickly, looks to be in great shape. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Definitely the coolest TA31 ever made |
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Originally Posted By Bhavin22:
Ambi safety came in today. Looks like I got lucky and everything looks correct with all parts included! https://i.imgur.com/241Ebkr.jpg 
I can't believe they actually wrapped one correctly 
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Originally Posted By Bhavin22:
Ambi safety came in today. Looks like I got lucky and everything looks correct with all parts included! https://i.imgur.com/241Ebkr.jpg I emailed them asking about the issue people had. There response was I'll receive what's in the picture online so we'll see. |
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Originally Posted By compuvette:
Sorry you gotta sell some stuff. It'll all be worth it when your can shows up. Originally Posted By compuvette:
Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Originally Posted By JLAudio: i wish i could have found the tano doctor mount/doctor version when i was looking for an anodized ecos. i ended up with an rmr on top instead. i am sure someone will scoop that up quickly, looks to be in great shape. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Definitely the coolest TA31 ever made Have there been pics of the rc on a block 1 or 1.5? |
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Originally Posted By krdt:
If I were looking for a new SF muzzle device I'd probably just get an SFCT and call it a day (unless a 4P fell into my lap at a great price). Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Originally Posted By DoctorLove:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/324355/0089F8AF-38D4-45DA-8861-AC28512F0CD2_jpeg-1022856.JPG Mod O is best O. Anyone have recommendations for a good LED conversation for M951? . That's very nice of you. I had considered letting someone here take it and going for the 5.56sd, but I'm not sure anyone would be interested  . For clone sake, and for thread cred, I'm happy with my purchase. I just wish the damn thing came with a 4p. That'd sooth me some. Or any muzzle device at that.i see now that the closed tine war comp pushes the suppressor further from the rail. No bueno. |
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Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
Don't worry, the block 1 and block 2 aren't goin anywhere. I'm just lookin to sell one or two plus an optic or two. Gotta justify the rc somehow. Uppers posted in the EE plus my fde su-237. I think the prices are good considering the rarity of a lot of the parts that go into these builds. Anyone lookin or know someone lookin for an immaculate ta31 ecos/ su237 check the ee now!
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Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
It may be a difference in the bezel. They made 3 different styles. The only diff from 951 to 952 is a qd Mount. |
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Originally Posted By Rothperson87: Damn I wish this would've come up in a few weeks. I don't suppose you offer layaway? Originally Posted By DoctorLove: I got it to work. I just needed to stretch the spring. It is really bright. I just ordered a few more cree bulbs for some G2s. That little $4 bulbs puts out some serious light. |
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Originally Posted By Flyit14: Ha no problem. Also I didn't even know fake SF4Ps were a thing. ONLY buy the ones HAO is selling. He actually worked with someone from this thread to secure a real 4P to copy, everyone else copied him. He did it as a favor, normally he only does them in 14mm airsoft threading. CNC machined from 4140 bar stock steel (same thing a lot of flash hiders are made from) with DLC coating and they come laser engraved with the correct markings BUT I wore mine off swapping a Warden and Trainer on and off. The guy who makes them is a master machinist with a fully modernized CNC machine shop. He said its important to note that he made them by copying a real SF 4P BUT he does not recommend you run a real can on them simply because he would not want to be responsible for a baffle strike. I had a real one, new in the baggy but I sold it when they got stupid expensive. 
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Originally Posted By Roadblock:
It is a thing, $60.00 dollars. ONLY buy the ones HAO is selling. He actually worked with someone from this thread to secure a real 4P to copy, everyone else copied him. He did it as a favor, normally he only does them in 14mm airsoft threading. CNC machined from 4140 bar stock steel (same thing a lot of flash hiders are made from) with DLC coating and they come laser engraved with the correct markings BUT I wore mine off swapping a Warden and Trainer on and off. The guy who makes them is a master machinist with a fully modernized CNC machine shop. He said its important to note that he made them by copying a real SF 4P BUT he does not recommend you run a real can on them simply because he would not want to be responsible for a baffle strike. I had a real one, new in the baggy but I sold it when they got stupid expensive. https://live.staticflickr.com/4721/38871785145_b6e84f51c5_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/4748/24900958847_7f24e59e30_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/4435/35837213104_2492843134_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48341851192_e66a35cd81_c.jpg Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By Flyit14: Ha no problem. Also I didn't even know fake SF4Ps were a thing. ONLY buy the ones HAO is selling. He actually worked with someone from this thread to secure a real 4P to copy, everyone else copied him. He did it as a favor, normally he only does them in 14mm airsoft threading. CNC machined from 4140 bar stock steel (same thing a lot of flash hiders are made from) with DLC coating and they come laser engraved with the correct markings BUT I wore mine off swapping a Warden and Trainer on and off. The guy who makes them is a master machinist with a fully modernized CNC machine shop. He said its important to note that he made them by copying a real SF 4P BUT he does not recommend you run a real can on them simply because he would not want to be responsible for a baffle strike. I had a real one, new in the baggy but I sold it when they got stupid expensive. https://live.staticflickr.com/4721/38871785145_b6e84f51c5_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/4748/24900958847_7f24e59e30_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/4435/35837213104_2492843134_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48341851192_e66a35cd81_c.jpg
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You should think it's stupid, because it is. Because some people are too cheap they sought after a company to knock off another company's product. Then, like anyone with half a brain could have seen coming, it would lead to people being scammed thinking they were buying real made firearm parts. |
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Originally Posted By ECPrevatte:
You should think it's stupid, because it is. Because some people are too cheap they sought after a company to knock off another company's product. Then, like anyone with half a brain could have seen coming, it would lead to people being scammed thinking they were buying real made firearm parts. Pretty soon people are gonna be posting mk18's with shitty clone optics from wish.com
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Originally Posted By Roadblock:
It is a thing, $60.00 dollars. ONLY buy the ones HAO is selling. He actually worked with someone from this thread to secure a real 4P to copy, everyone else copied him. He did it as a favor, normally he only does them in 14mm airsoft threading. CNC machined from 4140 bar stock steel (same thing a lot of flash hiders are made from) with DLC coating and they come laser engraved with the correct markings BUT I wore mine off swapping a Warden and Trainer on and off. The guy who makes them is a master machinist with a fully modernized CNC machine shop. He said its important to note that he made them by copying a real SF 4P BUT he does not recommend you run a real can on them simply because he would not want to be responsible for a baffle strike. I had a real one, new in the baggy but I sold it when they got stupid expensive. https://live.staticflickr.com/4721/38871785145_b6e84f51c5_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/4748/24900958847_7f24e59e30_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/4435/35837213104_2492843134_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48341851192_e66a35cd81_c.jpg Originally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By Flyit14: Ha no problem. Also I didn't even know fake SF4Ps were a thing. ONLY buy the ones HAO is selling. He actually worked with someone from this thread to secure a real 4P to copy, everyone else copied him. He did it as a favor, normally he only does them in 14mm airsoft threading. CNC machined from 4140 bar stock steel (same thing a lot of flash hiders are made from) with DLC coating and they come laser engraved with the correct markings BUT I wore mine off swapping a Warden and Trainer on and off. The guy who makes them is a master machinist with a fully modernized CNC machine shop. He said its important to note that he made them by copying a real SF 4P BUT he does not recommend you run a real can on them simply because he would not want to be responsible for a baffle strike. I had a real one, new in the baggy but I sold it when they got stupid expensive. https://live.staticflickr.com/4721/38871785145_b6e84f51c5_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/4748/24900958847_7f24e59e30_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/4435/35837213104_2492843134_c.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48341851192_e66a35cd81_c.jpg ETA I just read the rest of your post. At least that's just a trainer apparently |
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Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
I wasn’t sure if this was real or a joke. And I wasnt sure if he just admitted to ripping someone off with a knock-off 4p when the prices were really high? That and why would anyone come into this thread to essentially brag about a knock-off part. We spend lots of time and money tracking down the hard to find authentic parts. Wrong thread buddy.
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
He did the same thing with an air soft 99051 a few years ago. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By Dyzastr:
I wasn't sure if this was real or a joke. And I wasnt sure if he just admitted to ripping someone off with a knock-off 4p when the prices were really high? That and why would anyone come into this thread to essentially brag about a knock-off part. We spend lots of time and money tracking down the hard to find authentic parts. Wrong thread buddy. To change the subject... Should I keep the surefire on and sell the tan led m3x, or use the m3x and sell the surefire? 
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