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Strength Determination Merciless Forever
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn: The local 600yd range is about done, debating on going back to the NX8 to have a little more fun past 400. Was debating on an atacr but I think it's gonna be over kill price wise on this rig. The Steiner is just so good at 1x. I'm torn. View Quote If it makes you feel better, I just sold my Steiner. Had to offset another mk4 leupy. I'm a long range junkie lol |
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Originally Posted By StevethePirate: Personal take on an updated Mk12 14.5" Centurion CHF middy 14" PRI Gen3 RazorIII Still needs a light and a backup sighting system, leaning toward offset 507c or a viz laser. https://i.imgur.com/tpc09bB.jpg View Quote How do you like the gen III razor? |
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Might be the best overall scope I've ever used. Previous favorite was the Kahles K16i.
Eye box is a little tight at 10x but what do you expect from a 10x range... Illumination is superb, bright in direct sun even not on max setting. Glass and eye box seems better than the Razor II. The hype seems very justified. |
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Originally Posted By StevethePirate: Might be the best overall scope I've ever used. Previous favorite was the Kahles K16i. Eye box is a little tight at 10x but what do you expect from a 10x range... Illumination is superb, bright in direct sun even not on max setting. Glass and eye box seems better than the Razor II. The hype seems very justified. View Quote If the low-end eye box is better in this than the Razor 1-6 I need to start saving pennies. |
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Its marginal, but my untrained eye says it is better. I dont know if I'd dump a razor ii e for one if I dodnt need the extra 4x, but buying new, hell yeah I'd take the III over the II E
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Originally Posted By StevethePirate: Its marginal, but my untrained eye says it is better. I dont know if I'd dump a razor ii e for one if I dodnt need the extra 4x, but buying new, hell yeah I'd take the III over the II E View Quote I'm not getting rid of the 1-6x on my 5.56 upper, but one of these days I'll be doing a Grendel version of what I've got. 1-10x might be good for that. |
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“. . . together through ages of the world we have fought the long defeat.”
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Swapped things around goofing off today…I like it but the you know I ain't changing this thing: Attached File |
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“. . . together through ages of the world we have fought the long defeat.”
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Criterion 12.5 greatness
I took the time to lap the receiver face and bed the barrel. Muzzle brake is perfectly timed and it just went together perfectly. Vltor A5 buffer system, ALG ACT with SOLGW LPK. Colt upper receiver. Turned out great. Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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NX8 inbound. Pretty pumped. Almost went atacr but came to my senses!
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Strength Determination Merciless Forever
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Originally Posted By 2Keylows: Poor Bois Aem5. (Real ones still pending) 14.5 barrel with a F1 that reflexes ~4in on the barrel. https://i.imgur.com/QZlC9fG.jpg View Quote DUDE! Who makes that RDS ring mount? |
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Originally Posted By StevethePirate: Personal take on an updated Mk12 14.5" Centurion CHF middy 14" PRI Gen3 RazorIII Still needs a light and a backup sighting system, leaning toward offset 507c or a viz laser. https://i.imgur.com/tpc09bB.jpg View Quote |
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Without blood, it doesn't count!
"A gun, like any other source of power, is a force for good or evil, being neither in itself, but dependent upon those who possess it." |
Originally Posted By ehudbengera: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/441788/33F611AC-D737-4BB0-8109-4E574A5BE3D4_jpe-1365949.JPG Swapped things around goofing off today…I like it but the you know I ain't changing this thing: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/441788/77769472-9904-4108-A038-A640E0D43306_jpe-1365950.JPG View Quote That's like some BHD setup that was hiding in the back corner of the arms room that someone found and slapped some new glass on. |
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Without blood, it doesn't count!
"A gun, like any other source of power, is a force for good or evil, being neither in itself, but dependent upon those who possess it." |
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Originally Posted By slim0428: Partial breakdown shot of the 12.5", this mod button really helps streamline things up front. https://i.imgur.com/fyiT8sJ.jpg?1 View Quote Where did you find a Mk16 rail to fit perfectly with a 12.5”? That is a fantastic set up! |
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Strength Determination Merciless Forever
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Originally Posted By minion42: @SDMF_Rebel What makes you prefer the NX8 to something like the Razor HD? Seen a lot of complaints about the NF. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By minion42: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Nx8 is always the answer @SDMF_Rebel What makes you prefer the NX8 to something like the Razor HD? Seen a lot of complaints about the NF. The reticle is #1. Size and weight are #2. I was an nx8 skeptic. Comparing it to the Razor side by side, the razor appears to blow it away. Start throwing lead at distance and the nx8 comes to life. |
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Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: The reticle is #1. Size and weight are #2. I was an nx8 skeptic. Comparing it to the Razor side by side, the razor appears to blow it away. Start throwing lead at distance and the nx8 comes to life. View Quote Very very interesting! Most complaints I've heard and personal recommendations against it cite the reticle as the biggest downside, particularly at distance! Definitely can't beat it on size and weight. |
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Originally Posted By minion42: Very very interesting! Most complaints I've heard and personal recommendations against it cite the reticle as the biggest downside, particularly at distance! Definitely can't beat it on size and weight. View Quote Reticle is good for distance, the reticle is good for up close speed. The only thing it sucks at is shooting tiny groups at 100m. I honestly think bench shooting at 100m is where a lot of the complaints come from, I really dont like mine for that personally. Love it for practical shooting. |
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Originally Posted By RustedAce: Reticle is good for distance, the reticle is good for up close speed. The only thing it sucks at is shooting tiny groups at 100m. I honestly think bench shooting at 100m is where a lot of the complaints come from, I really dont like mine for that personally. Love it for practical shooting. View Quote Is the eyebox as tight as everyone says it is? That's what I like most about the razor, it's pretty easy to find no matter what. |
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Strength Determination Merciless Forever
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Originally Posted By minion42: Very very interesting! Most complaints I've heard and personal recommendations against it cite the reticle as the biggest downside, particularly at distance! Definitely can't beat it on size and weight. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By minion42: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: The reticle is #1. Size and weight are #2. I was an nx8 skeptic. Comparing it to the Razor side by side, the razor appears to blow it away. Start throwing lead at distance and the nx8 comes to life. Very very interesting! Most complaints I've heard and personal recommendations against it cite the reticle as the biggest downside, particularly at distance! Definitely can't beat it on size and weight. I'd wager it's coming from people who either don't shoot at distance, or suck at distance. I heard lots of "hold at distance because the dot is too big". On an 18" plate at 500yds the dot is no where near too big - I dial and use the dot. Disclaimer - I hold steadier with a fine dot as opposed to fine crosshair. |
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Originally Posted By htomeheb: Is the eyebox as tight as everyone says it is? That's what I like most about the razor, it's pretty easy to find no matter what. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By htomeheb: Originally Posted By RustedAce: Reticle is good for distance, the reticle is good for up close speed. The only thing it sucks at is shooting tiny groups at 100m. I honestly think bench shooting at 100m is where a lot of the complaints come from, I really dont like mine for that personally. Love it for practical shooting. Is the eyebox as tight as everyone says it is? That's what I like most about the razor, it's pretty easy to find no matter what. Yes and no. The razor spoiled everyone with an eyebox that would forgive all sins and let you forget all the basics of proper cheek weld. If you set the nx8 properly; as in when you set your cheekweld with eyes closed, open them, and you're in the eyebox, then you won't have any problems. Again, this is a case of being behind the gun vs playing with the optic in your hands. Playing with it in your hands the reaction is "holy fuck, this thing is a straw". Mounted on your gun with good cheekweld, no issue. Like I said, when I first got my nx8, I thought it was a 15 year old shitbox of dated tech. Now? I'm completely in love and don't miss my razors one bit. |
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Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: If you set the nx8 properly; as in when you set your cheekweld with eyes closed, open them, and you're in the eyebox, then you won't have any problems. Again, this is a case of being behind the gun vs playing with the optic in your hands. Playing with it in your hands the reaction is "holy fuck, this thing is a straw". Mounted on your gun with good cheekweld, no issue. View Quote Yep, mounting is main issue, lots of people seem to have just thrown it on there with no regards for their normal head placement. On distance I normally hold instead of dial, and Ive heard people even complain the lines were too thick. However I have no problem hitting 8in plate at 500m with gun pictured above. |
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Strength Determination Merciless Forever
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Originally Posted By RustedAce: Yep, mounting is main issue, lots of people seem to have just thrown it on there with no regards for their normal head placement. On distance I normally hold instead of dial, and Ive heard people even complain the lines were too thick. However I have no problem hitting 8in plate at 500m with gun pictured above. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RustedAce: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: If you set the nx8 properly; as in when you set your cheekweld with eyes closed, open them, and you're in the eyebox, then you won't have any problems. Again, this is a case of being behind the gun vs playing with the optic in your hands. Playing with it in your hands the reaction is "holy fuck, this thing is a straw". Mounted on your gun with good cheekweld, no issue. Yep, mounting is main issue, lots of people seem to have just thrown it on there with no regards for their normal head placement. On distance I normally hold instead of dial, and Ive heard people even complain the lines were too thick. However I have no problem hitting 8in plate at 500m with gun pictured above. I'd love to hit the 8" plate LOL. Every single time I go to the range there's a 20mph cross wind. I swear it's a wind tunnel. |
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Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: I'd love to hit the 8" plate LOL. Every single time I go to the range there's a 20mph cross wind. I swear it's a wind tunnel. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Originally Posted By RustedAce: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: If you set the nx8 properly; as in when you set your cheekweld with eyes closed, open them, and you're in the eyebox, then you won't have any problems. Again, this is a case of being behind the gun vs playing with the optic in your hands. Playing with it in your hands the reaction is "holy fuck, this thing is a straw". Mounted on your gun with good cheekweld, no issue. Yep, mounting is main issue, lots of people seem to have just thrown it on there with no regards for their normal head placement. On distance I normally hold instead of dial, and Ive heard people even complain the lines were too thick. However I have no problem hitting 8in plate at 500m with gun pictured above. I'd love to hit the 8" plate LOL. Every single time I go to the range there's a 20mph cross wind. I swear it's a wind tunnel. I have the same problem. ND is windy as is, but my range has a bit of a valley between the firing line and the steel beyond 200y, with a hill shielding the firing line from a portion of the wind. It can get a bit tricky when your position is experiencing light winds but halfway to the target the projectile could be seeing 20-30mph gusts. Full silhouettes at 500y are pretty easy, anything smaller is.......challenging. |
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Originally Posted By RJeff21: I have the same problem. ND is windy as is, but my range has a bit of a valley between the firing line and the steel beyond 200y, with a hill shielding the firing line from a portion of the wind. It can get a bit tricky when your position is experiencing light winds but halfway to the target the projectile could be seeing 20-30mph gusts. Full silhouettes at 500y are pretty easy, anything smaller is.......challenging. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RJeff21: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Originally Posted By RustedAce: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: If you set the nx8 properly; as in when you set your cheekweld with eyes closed, open them, and you're in the eyebox, then you won't have any problems. Again, this is a case of being behind the gun vs playing with the optic in your hands. Playing with it in your hands the reaction is "holy fuck, this thing is a straw". Mounted on your gun with good cheekweld, no issue. Yep, mounting is main issue, lots of people seem to have just thrown it on there with no regards for their normal head placement. On distance I normally hold instead of dial, and Ive heard people even complain the lines were too thick. However I have no problem hitting 8in plate at 500m with gun pictured above. I'd love to hit the 8" plate LOL. Every single time I go to the range there's a 20mph cross wind. I swear it's a wind tunnel. I have the same problem. ND is windy as is, but my range has a bit of a valley between the firing line and the steel beyond 200y, with a hill shielding the firing line from a portion of the wind. It can get a bit tricky when your position is experiencing light winds but halfway to the target the projectile could be seeing 20-30mph gusts. Full silhouettes at 500y are pretty easy, anything smaller is.......challenging. Y'all about have me sold on an NX8 to round out my optics. I have a Razor 1-6, Elcan 1&4, S&B Short Dot 1-4, Leupy 1.5-5 Mk4 and some red dots. Been wanting more mag to make 500 yd shots easier. I was really considering the 2.5-10x24 to swap around on the 18" SPR and maybe even the AR10, but the NX8 might be enough. Not really interested in the Razor III because of weight and cost (maybe used market one day). |
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Originally Posted By ForestRegion: Y'all about have me sold on an NX8 to round out my optics. I have a Razor 1-6, Elcan 1&4, S&B Short Dot 1-4, Leupy 1.5-5 Mk4 and some red dots. Been wanting more mag to make 500 yd shots easier. I was really considering the 2.5-10x24 to swap around on the 18" SPR and maybe even the AR10, but the NX8 might be enough. Not really interested in the Razor III because of weight and cost (maybe used market one day). View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By ForestRegion: Originally Posted By RJeff21: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: Originally Posted By RustedAce: Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: If you set the nx8 properly; as in when you set your cheekweld with eyes closed, open them, and you're in the eyebox, then you won't have any problems. Again, this is a case of being behind the gun vs playing with the optic in your hands. Playing with it in your hands the reaction is "holy fuck, this thing is a straw". Mounted on your gun with good cheekweld, no issue. Yep, mounting is main issue, lots of people seem to have just thrown it on there with no regards for their normal head placement. On distance I normally hold instead of dial, and Ive heard people even complain the lines were too thick. However I have no problem hitting 8in plate at 500m with gun pictured above. I'd love to hit the 8" plate LOL. Every single time I go to the range there's a 20mph cross wind. I swear it's a wind tunnel. I have the same problem. ND is windy as is, but my range has a bit of a valley between the firing line and the steel beyond 200y, with a hill shielding the firing line from a portion of the wind. It can get a bit tricky when your position is experiencing light winds but halfway to the target the projectile could be seeing 20-30mph gusts. Full silhouettes at 500y are pretty easy, anything smaller is.......challenging. Y'all about have me sold on an NX8 to round out my optics. I have a Razor 1-6, Elcan 1&4, S&B Short Dot 1-4, Leupy 1.5-5 Mk4 and some red dots. Been wanting more mag to make 500 yd shots easier. I was really considering the 2.5-10x24 to swap around on the 18" SPR and maybe even the AR10, but the NX8 might be enough. Not really interested in the Razor III because of weight and cost (maybe used market one day). An NX8 replaced my SpecterDR, which was pretty much useless beyond 300-400y in windy conditions, especially mixed wind. All I’ll say is I’m happy with it. |
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Ugh...now y'all are making me reconsider the NX8! I wanted one bad, then a friend convinced me to go for the Razor instead.
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Originally Posted By minion42: Ugh...now y'all are making me reconsider the NX8! I wanted one bad, then a friend convinced me to go for the Razor instead. View Quote Razors are great (haven't used the 1-10) but I strongly prefer the nx8 for real world use. If you're a bench shooter or an occasional tactical shooter and want something that's easy to use razor is king. If you need an optical tool, nx8 is far superior. Ymmv |
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Strength Determination Merciless Forever
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I wouldn't proclaim the nx8 king yet. The reticle was the failing of the razor, however, in the 1-10 they basically adopted the nx8 reticle. If the new razor is half as good as the old, I'd take it over an nx8.
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Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: I wouldn't proclaim the nx8 king yet. The reticle was the failing of the razor, however, in the 1-10 they basically adopted the nx8 reticle. If the new razor is half as good as the old, I'd take it over an nx8. View Quote I was very tempted to try the 1-10 razor. It was $600 more than the Nx8 I picked up, so I passed for now. I knew what I was getting with the Nx8 as I had it on my 300BLK mini. I got it out to 600-700 yards on it's furthest outing, that was with 300 also. I hold at distance 90% of the time when I go shoot on all my rifles. Unless there is high wind or it's a <2 moa target. The NX8 on 1x is not nearly as good as the Steiner on 1x but like you said once it's in the right spot it's really really good. NX8 shines at 8x shooting past 100 for sure. The eye box is tight on 8x but if your in some weird ass shooting position where you don't have perfect cheek weld your not gonna be on 8x shooting past 100. As far as the 1.25 moa dot at distance. If your dialing for 400 yards and out and there is any more than a 5mph crosswind with 223 your on the fine sub tensions across the windage line anyways. So the big dot is a non issue. I am still very intrigued by the EBR9 reticle as its pretty much transparent. I really like the idea of that! I'm pumped to get the Nx8 on there. Having the same weight with double the mag and mil/mil is going to be great. That 4x at 400 and beyond was really rough on my 7x10 steel plates. |
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Originally Posted By Maack: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-h7psIu9hM8M/XpXxg8KKd6I/AAAAAAAAI50/II0jISH8H0ggUmiLStdq2z7UoUojvIvIgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/3F3C6619-E72F-4D67-B0E3-DD51C91931AF.jpeg https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f-5kmxrrWZQ/XpXxh2DnEFI/AAAAAAAAI54/qU8CefdQcr4XFr2pVL5ENPUUV4jmi8KlACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/744569FA-E970-485F-8DE2-DBCD925746A4.jpeg View Quote I feel like that S&B would match my Taupe SR15 perfect. Love that rig man. |
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Originally Posted By eMc9001: I feel like that S&B would match my Taupe SR15 perfect. Love that rig man. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By eMc9001: Originally Posted By Maack: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-h7psIu9hM8M/XpXxg8KKd6I/AAAAAAAAI50/II0jISH8H0ggUmiLStdq2z7UoUojvIvIgCLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/3F3C6619-E72F-4D67-B0E3-DD51C91931AF.jpeg https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-f-5kmxrrWZQ/XpXxh2DnEFI/AAAAAAAAI54/qU8CefdQcr4XFr2pVL5ENPUUV4jmi8KlACLcBGAsYHQ/s1600/744569FA-E970-485F-8DE2-DBCD925746A4.jpeg I feel like that S&B would match my Taupe SR15 perfect. Love that rig man. If you're ever in the market- Scopelist was pretty fair to me. Seems like a good use of some stimulus money maybe..? It's nice to have a small center dot on 8x and have a bright dot on 1x. I finally got the specs on the MDR-T6 reticle and the center dot is 4.5 MOA on 1x and 0.56 MOA on 8x. Makes it nice to be able to get out to 500 easy and still be able to do everything up close. |
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Originally Posted By Maack: If you're ever in the market- Scopelist was pretty fair to me. Seems like a good use of some stimulus money maybe..? It's nice to have a small center dot on 8x and have a bright dot on 1x. I finally got the specs on the MDR-T6 reticle and the center dot is 4.5 MOA on 1x and 0.56 MOA on 8x. Makes it nice to be able to get out to 500 easy and still be able to do everything up close. View Quote 0.56 at 8x is pretty nice for precise work. I've been using a K16i for the time being but always been curious how the S&B offerings are. Thanks for the info dude. |
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