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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2024 5:08:54 PM EST
[Last Edit: bboehme]
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@DoubleARon
I have 2 of the 16" govt profile cut for the ops system and they shoot very well. Can’t figure out how to post a picture, but about 1/2 MOA with the good ol’ Magtech mk262 clone stuff. Same with BH 77gr. |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2024 5:16:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Recon nav-spec/ army spec? Those will still command a premium Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By cebiNg: $3900 was the highest I saw one for on ebay. Not sure if it sold for that price or not but it hung around awhile. That one I am not sure but the two currently listed aren’t marked as such. One is 2015 reproduction and the other says it comes in a triangular box (not sure of that significance). $3699 and $3400 respectively. |
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Posted: 6/4/2024 5:51:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cebiNg: That one I am not sure but the two currently listed aren’t marked as such. One is 2015 reproduction and the other says it comes in a triangular box (not sure of that significance). $3699 and $3400 respectively. They’re smoking crack. A recon nav-spec will sit around a while at those prices I’ve seen a few sell in the $2500 territory though |
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Posted: 6/4/2024 5:51:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cebiNg: That one I am not sure but the two currently listed aren't marked as such. One is 2015 reproduction and the other says it comes in a triangular box (not sure of that significance). $3699 and $3400 respectively. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2024 6:01:06 PM EST
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So what are the over 10x issued optics seen itw or at the sniper comp? Im building a MK12 and have a MK6 3-18 I was planning on running.
What I've seen over the years. Mk6 3-18 on the state department guns Mk5 3.6-18 on the sniper comps 3-15 premier on the sniper comp NXS 3-15 on the rattle canned rifle. Are there any other over 10x I'm missing? |
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Posted: 6/4/2024 7:11:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: revottuneda4]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: So what are the over 10x issued optics seen itw or at the sniper comp? Im building a MK12 and have a MK6 3-18 I was planning on running. What I've seen over the years. Mk6 3-18 on the state department guns Mk5 3.6-18 on the sniper comps 3-15 premier on the sniper comp NXS 3-15 on the rattle canned rifle. Are there any other over 10x I'm missing?  Attached FilePretty sure this is a mk4 6.5-20x50? |
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Posted: 6/4/2024 7:12:25 PM EST
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Wasn’t there an ERT 6.5-20 on a mod 1? I think @Shlouf may have done one but can’t remember for sure. Would have to look for the pic.
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Posted: 6/4/2024 7:13:23 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By revottuneda4: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/181541/image_jpg-3232443.JPG Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By revottuneda4: Originally Posted By Eyekahn: So what are the over 10x issued optics seen itw or at the sniper comp? Im building a MK12 and have a MK6 3-18 I was planning on running. What I've seen over the years. Mk6 3-18 on the state department guns Mk5 3.6-18 on the sniper comps 3-15 premier on the sniper comp NXS 3-15 on the rattle canned rifle. Are there any other over 10x I'm missing? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/181541/image_jpg-3232443.JPG  |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/4/2024 7:45:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By revottuneda4: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/181541/image_jpg-3232443.JPG Pretty sure this is a mk4 6.5-20x50? Very cool! Forgot about that one. I think the mk6 makes the most sense. It's really light for an 18x optic and pretty compact. |
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Posted: 6/4/2024 10:38:13 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: Had one on my H. Could never get a group better than about 2" no matter what ammo I used. IIRC @Haveblue83 has/had one that did really well for him. |
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Posted: 6/5/2024 5:53:59 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: 12.5 and 14.5 builds so far. BA is either awesome or 1.5-2". But they are cheap. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HaveBlue83: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: Had one on my H. Could never get a group better than about 2" no matter what ammo I used. IIRC @Haveblue83 has/had one that did really well for him. The one saving grace of that barrel (other than price) was that it would group cheap ball ammo just as well as match ammo. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 6/5/2024 6:07:36 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell: The one saving grace of that barrel (other than price) was that it would group cheap ball ammo just as well as match ammo. You should see how my $500 Krieger 1/7.7 18" groups with that cheap Winchester M855 with the off-centered 'penetrators.' |
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Posted: 6/5/2024 6:48:33 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: So what are the over 10x issued optics seen itw or at the sniper comp? Im building a MK12 and have a MK6 3-18 I was planning on running. What I've seen over the years. Mk6 3-18 on the state department guns Mk5 3.6-18 on the sniper comps 3-15 premier on the sniper comp NXS 3-15 on the rattle canned rifle. Are there any other over 10x I'm missing?  Attached File |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/5/2024 10:08:31 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Not a state department gun https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_9010_jpeg-3232833.JPG Oh yea, that one too! I was referring to the black ones on the cart with KAC mounts. |
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Posted: 6/5/2024 12:09:12 PM EST
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Weapon outfitters is accepting pre-orders for the KAC rail in case anyone is looking for one.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 6/5/2024 12:28:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: edwin907]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By edwin907: You should see how my $500 Krieger 1/7.7 18" groups with that cheap Winchester M855 with the off-centered 'penetrators.' Sub MOA with Mk262, 3.5-4.5 MOA with Winchester M855.  
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Posted: 6/5/2024 12:48:26 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: Oh yea, that one too! I was referring to the black ones on the cart with KAC mounts. |
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Posted: 6/5/2024 5:08:33 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By edwin907: You should see how my $500 Krieger 1/7.7 18" groups with that cheap Winchester M855 with the off-centered 'penetrators.' Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By edwin907: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: The one saving grace of that barrel (other than price) was that it would group cheap ball ammo just as well as match ammo. You should see how my $500 Krieger 1/7.7 18" groups with that cheap Winchester M855 with the off-centered 'penetrators.' I replaced my BA with a Douglas from PRI and just doing some quick function checks/zeroing a few weeks ago, it seems to group Wolf Gold and PMC X-Tac well. |
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Posted: 6/5/2024 5:09:53 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By edwin907: Sub MOA with Mk262, 3.5-4.5 MOA with Winchester M855. https://i.imgur.com/Ey9wDQt.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3V1AFYR.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By edwin907: Originally Posted By edwin907: You should see how my $500 Krieger 1/7.7 18" groups with that cheap Winchester M855 with the off-centered 'penetrators.' Sub MOA with Mk262, 3.5-4.5 MOA with Winchester M855. https://i.imgur.com/Ey9wDQt.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3V1AFYR.jpg Horey sheet. 
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USA
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Posted: 6/5/2024 8:42:51 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eyekahn: So what are the over 10x issued optics seen itw or at the sniper comp? Im building a MK12 and have a MK6 3-18 I was planning on running. What I've seen over the years. Mk6 3-18 on the state department guns Mk5 3.6-18 on the sniper comps 3-15 premier on the sniper comp NXS 3-15 on the rattle canned rifle. Are there any other over 10x I'm missing? With your specified requirements above: Schmidt 3-12x Over 10x but not quite “issued”: a couple of the Horus scopes (brand, not just reticle). I don’t recall the exact models. They weren’t around long. One had the illumination knob on the 12oclock of the ocular. Runner ups that weren’t quite 10x: - SWFA 3-9x ffp - Horus blackbird 2 |
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Posted: 6/8/2024 4:57:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: PerfectTurn]
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I just posted in the EE a pretty niche surplus 1996-2002 ish Pelican 1700 if anyone’s interested. Perfect for an early mod 1 or SPR:
https://www.ar15.com/exchange/topicEE.html?t=2449676&f=160&type=1 |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2024 6:47:30 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Toothpicksandkatchup: Interesting, had a full address FSB with this style base but ADCO did not perform this service, ended up swapping bases with a current production one. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Toothpicksandkatchup: Originally Posted By HotLead: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53767272709_fe76f1773e_c.jpg ETA: Disregard the "Plunge 0.235", this was based on my barrel Interesting, had a full address FSB with this style base but ADCO did not perform this service, ended up swapping bases with a current production one. Does anybody perform this service currently? |
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Posted: 6/8/2024 7:05:43 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cebiNg: Does anybody perform this service currently? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cebiNg: Originally Posted By Toothpicksandkatchup: Originally Posted By HotLead: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53767272709_fe76f1773e_c.jpg ETA: Disregard the "Plunge 0.235", this was based on my barrel Interesting, had a full address FSB with this style base but ADCO did not perform this service, ended up swapping bases with a current production one. Does anybody perform this service currently? Marc at Spartan Precision Arms did my last couple. He's more active on that other site (SH) than Arf, but very good work and always has been quick to respond for me. |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2024 8:53:27 PM EST
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I appreciate it!
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USA
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Posted: 6/8/2024 9:19:44 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By teamjawbox: Marc at Spartan Precision Arms did my last couple. He's more active on that other site (SH) than Arf, but very good work and always has been quick to respond for me. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By teamjawbox: Originally Posted By cebiNg: Originally Posted By Toothpicksandkatchup: Originally Posted By HotLead: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53767272709_fe76f1773e_c.jpg ETA: Disregard the "Plunge 0.235", this was based on my barrel Interesting, had a full address FSB with this style base but ADCO did not perform this service, ended up swapping bases with a current production one. Does anybody perform this service currently? Marc at Spartan Precision Arms did my last couple. He's more active on that other site (SH) than Arf, but very good work and always has been quick to respond for me. Wondering if it'd be worth it to send my barrel out to have that done. Were most of the FSGB put out during the MOD 0 time generally cross bolt style? Might not be worth the hassle. |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2024 9:43:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Toothpicksandkatchup: Wondering if it'd be worth it to send my barrel out to have that done. Were most of the FSGB put out during the MOD 0 time generally cross bolt style? Might not be worth the hassle. |
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Posted: 6/8/2024 9:52:35 PM EST
[Last Edit: teamjawbox]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Toothpicksandkatchup: Wondering if it'd be worth it to send my barrel out to have that done. Were most of the FSGB put out during the MOD 0 time generally cross bolt style? Might not be worth the hassle. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Toothpicksandkatchup: Originally Posted By teamjawbox: Originally Posted By cebiNg: Originally Posted By Toothpicksandkatchup: Originally Posted By HotLead: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53767272709_fe76f1773e_c.jpg ETA: Disregard the "Plunge 0.235", this was based on my barrel Interesting, had a full address FSB with this style base but ADCO did not perform this service, ended up swapping bases with a current production one. Does anybody perform this service currently? Marc at Spartan Precision Arms did my last couple. He's more active on that other site (SH) than Arf, but very good work and always has been quick to respond for me. Wondering if it'd be worth it to send my barrel out to have that done. Were most of the FSGB put out during the MOD 0 time generally cross bolt style? Might not be worth the hassle. Set screw. No cross bolt that I’ve ever seen anyway. ETA: I know earlier commercial PRI FSGB’s were offered in the cross bolt style as I had a couple gen 3 style with the old sight post with fully addy at one point (not current clamp style) but never seen one on an issued rifle nor heard of it being used on an issued mk12. I know of at least two of those cross bolt FSGB’s that were sent off and welded and modified into set screw versions for clone builds by cloners much more knowledgeable than I. So I’d wager they were never actually used on any issued rifles. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 12:25:58 PM EST
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Posted: 6/10/2024 1:08:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j-dubya1: With your specified requirements above: Schmidt 3-12x Over 10x but not quite “issued”: a couple of the Horus scopes (brand, not just reticle). I don’t recall the exact models. They weren’t around long. One had the illumination knob on the 12oclock of the ocular. Runner ups that weren’t quite 10x: - SWFA 3-9x ffp - Horus blackbird 2 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By j-dubya1: Originally Posted By Eyekahn: So what are the over 10x issued optics seen itw or at the sniper comp? Im building a MK12 and have a MK6 3-18 I was planning on running. What I've seen over the years. Mk6 3-18 on the state department guns Mk5 3.6-18 on the sniper comps 3-15 premier on the sniper comp NXS 3-15 on the rattle canned rifle. Are there any other over 10x I'm missing? With your specified requirements above: Schmidt 3-12x Over 10x but not quite “issued”: a couple of the Horus scopes (brand, not just reticle). I don’t recall the exact models. They weren’t around long. One had the illumination knob on the 12oclock of the ocular. Runner ups that weren’t quite 10x: - SWFA 3-9x ffp - Horus blackbird 2 NF 5-25 ATACR |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 1:14:56 PM EST
[Last Edit: ShakespeareWhip]
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Quote HistoryDang I forgot I made that config. It was short lived with the PRS lite stock bc I was actually using my URGI lower on loan to test the PRS stock. Went back to the Mod H stock before it was desert tiger striped https://imgur.com/a/zQc8Hnz |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 3:29:45 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By afd77: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/139249/IMG_1917_png-3237621.JPG Just got this email I did too and they were gone... |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2024 4:34:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShakespeareWhip: NF 5-25 ATACR Post the photo. |
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Posted: 6/10/2024 4:56:36 PM EST
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Finally got some glass on there worthy enough to post. Need some small accessories still but getting close!
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Posted: 6/10/2024 8:00:02 PM EST
[Last Edit: ShakespeareWhip]
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https://imgur.com/a/zQc8Hnz
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MN, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:24:44 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmmc: I did too and they were gone... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmmc: Originally Posted By afd77: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/139249/IMG_1917_png-3237621.JPG Just got this email I did too and they were gone... I was on Midways notification list but I never received an email. I could not locate a Knights Armament FF rifle RAS on their web site. |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 4:18:46 PM EST
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https://centurionarms.com/firearms/centurion-arms-mk12-mod-1-complete-rifle-with-kac-long-ff-ras/?utm_source=instocknotify&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=instocknotify
Centurion mod 1s in stock |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 4:18:58 PM EST
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Must be the week Knights is getting stuff out. Got a call just now from Dennis Todd that I'm up for mine to ship. He got 25 in and had 150+ on the wait list.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 4:57:55 PM EST
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Guys, who's milling FSB flats?
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2024 5:55:34 PM EST
[Last Edit: Eyekahn]
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It's on an M4 lower, the grip isn't a fatty, and the Mk6 isn't an ecos but whatever I kinda dig it.
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Posted: 6/11/2024 5:59:15 PM EST
[Last Edit: AWHAILYEAH]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By metalsaber: Must be the week Knights is getting stuff out. Got a call just now from Dennis Todd that I'm up for mine to ship. He got 25 in and had 150+ on the wait list. Same! Said these are due in next week ETA: scratch that since I missed his fucking phone call 3 hrs ago because I work for a living I’m kicked to the next batch! Fuck that I got two of them so fuck that 3rd |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2024 9:06:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bmmc: Guys, who's milling FSB flats? PRI is doing mine but I added the service when I bought the barrel. Not sure that helps you... |
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Posted: 6/11/2024 10:19:45 PM EST
[Last Edit: bmmc]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Currahee-Cav: PRI is doing mine but I added the service when I bought the barrel. Not sure that helps you... It does, thanks. ETA just spoke with PRI and it's going back to them, Thanks |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2024 8:02:11 AM EST
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FYI, PRI now has the Gen II #38 rail available as well;
https://www.precisionreflex.com/forearm-rails/2226-2598-pri-gen-ii-no-38-straight-top-rail.html#/62-colors-black |
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Posted: 6/13/2024 7:13:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By edwin907: Sub MOA with Mk262, 3.5-4.5 MOA with Winchester M855. https://i.imgur.com/Ey9wDQt.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3V1AFYR.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By edwin907: Originally Posted By edwin907: You should see how my $500 Krieger 1/7.7 18" groups with that cheap Winchester M855 with the off-centered 'penetrators.' Sub MOA with Mk262, 3.5-4.5 MOA with Winchester M855. https://i.imgur.com/Ey9wDQt.jpg https://i.imgur.com/3V1AFYR.jpg @edwin907 What scope is that? |
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Posted: 6/14/2024 8:21:02 PM EST
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my mk12 mod 0 gas tube wont go back in. i pulled the pri upper off to install a tighter fitting colt upper and the barrel nut wont line up. i got it pushed over just enough to bend the gas tube and clear it then bend it back again once inside the receiver. bolt carrier fitted to gas tube inside just fine. thats when i noticed i needed to line up two more parts to run the gas tube through. im taking a coin toss in shop right now whether to fish the gas tube in from front or from the rear of receiver. its a mess.
how does the gas tube usually install on a normal mk12 mod 0? from front attached to gas block with handguard and top rail already installed correct? its a gen 1 less common pri not the later gen i see mostly if that helps. the gen 1 looks more unusual at rear of handguard. its the type that uses the 8 small set screws etc. |
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Posted: 6/14/2024 8:46:08 PM EST
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correction, its a gen 2 pri upper not gen 1. does the gas tube go on from front by fishing it thru the parts somehow like building a ship inside a bottle? heres a link to the upper.
https://www.precisionreflex.com/upper-assemblies/649-2127-18-mark-12-mod-0-spr-gen-ii-upper-in-556-cal-1-8-twist.html#/62-colors-black |
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Posted: 6/14/2024 8:50:15 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK47_COMMBLOC: my mk12 mod 0 gas tube wont go back in. i pulled the pri upper off to install a tighter fitting colt upper and the barrel nut wont line up. i got it pushed over just enough to bend the gas tube and clear it then bend it back again once inside the receiver. bolt carrier fitted to gas tube inside just fine. thats when i noticed i needed to line up two more parts to run the gas tube through. im taking a coin toss in shop right now whether to fish the gas tube in from front or from the rear of receiver. its a mess. how does the gas tube usually install on a normal mk12 mod 0? from front attached to gas block with handguard and top rail already installed correct? its a gen 1 less common pri not the later gen i see mostly if that helps. the gen 1 looks more unusual at rear of handguard. its the type that uses the 8 small set screws etc. Stick something like a Allen wrench through one of the rear holes of the tube to hold the gas tube up so it will go in the barrel nut. |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 6/16/2024 11:23:18 AM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK47_COMMBLOC: my mk12 mod 0 gas tube wont go back in. i pulled the pri upper off to install a tighter fitting colt upper and the barrel nut wont line up. i got it pushed over just enough to bend the gas tube and clear it then bend it back again once inside the receiver. bolt carrier fitted to gas tube inside just fine. thats when i noticed i needed to line up two more parts to run the gas tube through. im taking a coin toss in shop right now whether to fish the gas tube in from front or from the rear of receiver. its a mess. how does the gas tube usually install on a normal mk12 mod 0? from front attached to gas block with handguard and top rail already installed correct? its a gen 1 less common pri not the later gen i see mostly if that helps. the gen 1 looks more unusual at rear of handguard. its the type that uses the 8 small set screws etc. Give PRI customer service a phone call? |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 1:16:32 AM EST
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i had to remove gas tube from gas block then make a brass tool to fit around gas tube tip then drive the gas tube thru with all parts alligned and have wife hammer on one end as i pressed hard on one side with custom screw driver tip modified. got it all worked out.
i had been working on it for many hours and needed a brake so asked just in case it helped. in the old days i would go on ak forum and ask something random and get like 5 or 10 replies by time i ate a sandwich. didnt know how fast you guys might chime in but it was worth asking. i wasnt waiting around. gun is now ready for range. |
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Posted: 6/17/2024 11:26:53 AM EST
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Got charged for my KAC rail and should be here Thursday. Pretty happy.
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